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Old April 4th, 2012, 02:46 PM   #251 (permalink)
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Its bull $hit. Did they wait until carriers sold millions of SII before releasing the unbranded. Not at all. They don't want to issue ICS to unbranded because you all will blame SAMSUNG when it crashes!! Where as if the update from the carrier then its not SAMSUNG'S FAULT..

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Just been reading the Cnet article about the release. I can't help but think this is going to hurt the wider Android community. The SGS2 is arguably the flagship Android device and if a major Android release can't be managed properly, then god help the rest of the devices out there. On top of that, I had thought Samsung could handle something like this. They are making money hand over fist and consistently beating Apple in monthly handset sales. How can they not manage an update like this properly?

Being a carrier-free owner, I also can't help but think that Samsung are priortising the carriers because that's where the largest revenue streams are. What they don't realise is that the opion formers, bloggers, mobile site owners and tech geeks are more than likely carrier-free owners. They'll be the ones shouting the loudest over this. What a mess...
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Damm joke. It was the whole reason I didn't get an orange branded version! Really unhappy with this especially seeing as I was giving samsung a second chance after problems with my first Samsung phone
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i wasnt that bothered about ics,id of preffered to get the 2.3.5 and 6 updates but after reading what that buffoon from samsung has had to say im pissed.('our communication wasnt very good',they have a multi million dollar PR machine.thier communication works exactly how they want it to)
they must think everyone is a bit thick,if they had been honest from day one it wouldnt be so bad.
pass the update out and everyone gets it at the same time,instead of playing silly games.

worst part is we are going to get the same mess about when jellybean chocolate fudge cake comes out
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First of all, Samsung never needed to roll out ICS for SGS2 if they didn't want to. There is already Nexus and SGS3 coming up. Even the latest Sony phone is on GB.

For me, I think Samsung was way too optimistic with their initial attempt to give ICS. They mentioned they wanted to roll it out first quarter and they did even though it wasn't ready. That's where the mistake is, and not because people think they deserve ICS.

Samsung should take their time and get it right before rolling it out. And you have to understand that Android is a lot more complicated than IOS because of the different type of handsets and configuration available. Even Apple only rolled out IOS 5 for IP4 with the launch of the IP4s. And even that was not without issues.

I bought this phone because it had awesome specs at the time it was bought, not because ICS was coming. If ICS was that important to you, get the Nexus or flash a custom Rom. If you still think because Samsung didn't roll out ICS to you, and you swear off Samsung after this, the loss is not on Samsung, the loss is on you for giving out the best handset currently available.

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First of all, Samsung never needed to roll out ICS for SGS2 if they didn't want to. There is already Nexus and SGS3 coming up. Even the latest Sony phone is on GB.

For me, I think Samsung was way too optimistic with their initial attempt to give ICS. They mentioned they wanted to roll it out first quarter and they did even though it wasn't ready. That's where the mistake is, and not because people think they deserve ICS.

Samsung should take their time and get it right before rolling it out. And you have to understand that Android is a lot more complicated than IOS because of the different type of handsets and configuration available. Even Apple only rolled out IOS 5 for IP4 with the launch of the IP4s. And even that was not without issues.

I bought this phone because it had awesome specs at the time it was bought, not because ICS was coming. If ICS was that important to you, get the Nexus or flash a custom Rom. If you still think because Samsung didn't roll out ICS to you, and you swear off Samsung after this, the loss is not on Samsung, the loss is on you for giving out the best handset currently available.

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I'm afraid you've somewhat missed the point Russell. Samsung have committed to releasing ICS for the S2 which is very nice of them, but makes your first sentence utterly irrelevant to the debate.

And you're right - they should take their time over it, no-one is really arguing any differently (I think). What has wound people up is the utter failure of customer communications. Announcements about dates that don't materialise or are highly semantic in meaning, cynical release to third parties and lies or incompetence in subsequent corporate announcements. These are the things that irritate, not the issues you note, so again I'm afraid the rest of your post doesn't really relate to any of the main points.

In all, I'm not really sure what you're arguing as it seems to belong to about 2 months ago when there was some question about whether ICS would come to the S2 or not.
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If people want to complain about their customer service, that's fine. Samsung was never know for their customer service anyway. And they did screw up a bit on their announcements and poor communications. I see it as the culture in Asia where face is so important that saying sorry is not the first thing that they do. And just in case you think I am racists, I am Asian.

PR machines also require approval from management, and management is at the end of the day Asians with Asian culture. That said, I do think its getting better with the transparency, etc...

What I think is not right is people complaining about not receiving ICS expecting it is a given right that they receive it. And the worst is just because they don't receive it, they say I am going back to IPhones, never buying Samsung phones ever.... forgetting why they bothered to get SGS2 in the first place.
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Just read vodafones blog nexus s 4.0.4 now rolling out so hopefully there near done with SGS2 testing

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like i said before,i wasnt and still arent that bothered about ics but after all the hype samsung have created.....thats what got me mad.

and why do people keep bringing up apple and the ios updates

if they are faster,better,bigger.......who gives a toss,im thinking the majority of people have taken issue with all this down to the incompetance of the rollout.
rightly so too

i dont think anyone bought the phone because of ICS,its a good handset and thats it.
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The Vodafone app just updated itself to work with Android 4.0. ICS must be just about ready.
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Is ICS available for t mobile uk for the s2? As i am due an upgrade and debating over this the nexus or the xperia s
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Is ICS available for t mobile uk for the s2? As i am due an upgrade and debating over this the nexus or the xperia s
As far as I know T-Mobile probably have the ROM but haven't announced it's release yet, they are busy putting their own bloatware over it and as the rest of the big networks have released/ have said they'll release soon I doubt it will be that long.
Having said that it's in T-mobiles hands, so who knows.
Keep an eye on their Twitter/ Facebook page, it'll probably be announced there when they are about to push it out.
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The Vodafone app just updated itself to work with Android 4.0. ICS must be just about ready.
I never recieved this? :-( what app exactly was it?

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"My Vodafone", is available, free, from the Play Store and was updated way back on the 7th March... before ICS was released at all. See here:-

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myvodafoneapp&feature=search_result #?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5teXZvZGFmb25lYXBwIl0.
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Been waiting since October to update my Bell Samsung GT-I9100M. Don't even think it will come any more. It is taking way too long.
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Hello what's is the latest firmware now for Samsung Galaxy S 2,because a few days i updated to XXLPQ and now you can update to I9100XXLPS,i want to know because every new firmware has some changes,like some apps didn't work on XXLPQ but they are working good on XXLPS,so how can i find out when the new firmware is up???
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Hello what's is the latest firmware now for Samsung Galaxy S 2,because a few days i updated to XXLPQ and now you can update to I9100XXLPS,i want to know because every new firmware has some changes,like some apps didn't work on XXLPQ but they are working good on XXLPS,so how can i find out when the new firmware is up???
Connect your phone to Kies or check in Settings > About phone > Software update or scan the forum.
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like i said before,i wasnt and still arent that bothered about ics but after all the hype samsung have created.....thats what got me mad.
What hype have Samsung actually created? I only know of a few tweets, hardly a huge PR hype machine.
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What hype have Samsung actually created? I only know of a few tweets, hardly a huge PR hype machine.
Haha... good one.
A couple of tweets and everyone gets so excited. Then get mad when it doesn't come true...

Wait until SGS3 gets delayed another time.
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What hype have Samsung actually created? I only know of a few tweets, hardly a huge PR hype machine.
i wouldnt know about twitter,never been on there.

SAMSUNG put the info out and just about every tech site on the internet have been reporting it for months and its started many many threads on many many sites.

Thats HYPE and SAMSUNG created it.
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I used Odin a couple of weeks ago to flash on the official ICS 4.03 international ROM onto my SG2. Ive since reflashed it back to GB. Why? Because the phone was noticeably "jerkier" and slower on the ICS ROM and a biggy for me was they have removed rDAP support from the firmware which, if anyone drives a VAG car with the factory bluetooth fitted will know is a big loss and definitely not worth the new menus, graphics and other sundry bits ICS has over GB. Infact my ICS experience was that is was nothing more than a slower, less functional but slightly prettier (in places) version of GB.

So for me I will be staying on GB until/if they fix all the bits they so obviously broke and left out in the ICS ROM or until the SG3 comes out as long as it supports rDAP. If not I shall be keeping my SG2 with GB on it for the foreseable future, since I can't actually think of a valid reason to change it.
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I used Odin a couple of weeks ago to flash on the official ICS 4.03 international ROM onto my SG2. Ive since reflashed it back to GB. Why? Because the phone was noticeably "jerkier" and slower on the ICS ROM and a biggy for me was they have removed rDAP support from the firmware which, if anyone drives a VAG car with the factory bluetooth fitted will know is a big loss and definitely not worth the new menus, graphics and other sundry bits ICS has over GB. Infact my ICS experience was that is was nothing more than a slower, less functional but slightly prettier (in places) version of GB.

So for me I will be staying on GB until/if they fix all the bits they so obviously broke and left out in the ICS ROM or until the SG3 comes out as long as it supports rDAP. If not I shall be keeping my SG2 with GB on it for the foreseable future, since I can't actually think of a valid reason to change it.

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Anybody know when mobilcom debitel (DBT) customers on Vodafone Germany will get the update?
I'm getting bored of the same old spam on the german forums lol.
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Anybody know when mobilcom debitel (DBT) customers on Vodafone Germany will get the update?
I'm getting bored of the same old spam on the german forums lol.
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Samsung has confirmed to TechRadar that the Galaxy S2 Ice Cream Sandwich update UK release date will be 19 March.


Samsung told us: "Samsung UK can confirm that the roll out of Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) on Galaxy S II will be available from week commencing March 19, however the availability of software upgrades in the UK will be dependent upon each network's own software approvals process."

Update: Even though Samsung said it would be rolling out the Ice Cream Sandwich to networks and sim-free Galaxy S2 owners from March 19, a surprising (and confusing) u-turn by Samsung confirms it's still working on the update, with no release date available yet - although Three and O2 users are able to download the update already.

Update: April 12 - A T-Mobile spokesperson has confirmed its Ice Cream Sandwich update is still in the testing phase.

Taken from Drippler on a tech radar post, just one of many reports, So I can understand why the unbranded guys feel annoyed.

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Samsung is not going update to ICS for unbranded phones. That's official (not for public consumption) due to unforseen problems with the handset. They were issuing to carriers because they were contracted to issue updates as partof their contract.
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Samsung is not going update to ICS for unbranded phones. That's official (not for public consumption) due to unforseen problems with the handset. They were issuing to carriers because they were contracted to issue updates as partof their contract.

Where have Samsung made such a statement ? I find this very hard to believe when it's been launched, unbranded in several countries already. It would have to be pulled in those countries. Even Nokia never made a cock up like this.
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No wonder companies are loath to give customers information when they get jumped on like this. A tweet or two and that counts as hype? They're not toying with us, if there is a delay it is because there's a reason and they like it even less than us. You can't accurately schedule these things, but the tech community clamours for a release date. They give in and put the word out, then something goes wrong and suddenly they're guilty of hyping things? It would be easier for them to just tell us nothing.

swingman, what's your source?
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No wonder companies are loath to give customers information when they get jumped on like this. A tweet or two and that counts as hype? They're not toying with us, if there is a delay it is because there's a reason and they like it even less than us. You can't accurately schedule these things, but the tech community clamours for a release date. They give in and put the word out, then something goes wrong and suddenly they're guilty of hyping things? It would be easier for them to just tell us nothing.

swingman, what's your source?
swingman is of course appears to be talking junk, but your post is a tad sycophantic to what is an utter mess of a release from Samsung. They did give a reason. That reason is obviously a lie or born from incompetence. That is why people are angry.
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I seriously don't see why there's so many people on here bashing Samsung for the lack of un-branded firmware...

1. If you want ICS, download ODIN, download one of the latest ICS firmwares, and flash your phone!!

2. Otherwise, wait.
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Samsung, HTC, LG, Nokia, (insert phone manufacturer) are all guilty of rushing out firmwares before they are tested well enough. It's the nature of the industry. Every manufacturer makes mistakes and uses it's handset owners as beta testers. It is the likes of us on forums like this that actually only get hot under the collar. By our very nature we push our devices to the limit.

It's not the end of the world if a new firmware is buggy, doesn't work right yet etc. That's what a nandroid backup is for. What is needed is for manufacturers to keep quiet until a firmware is tested to the nth degree then announce it and/if it still causes issues be honest about it and be clear what they intend to do to correct it.

Do you honestly believe out of the millions of SGSII owners more than a fraction of them would know what you are taking about if you said 'nandroid backup' to them ?
That is why Samsung et al aren't particularly worried if a small number of power users and geeks like us get riled by their incompetence. Have patience, ask an N8 owner if they're happy with 'Belle'and how long they waited for it. Only then will you appreciate real delay and confusion.
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I seriously don't see why there's so many people on here bashing Samsung for the lack of un-branded firmware...

1. If you want ICS, download ODIN, download one of the latest ICS firmwares, and flash your phone!!

2. Otherwise, wait.

I see what you were saying and i have done number 1 but the point is, people expect unbranded phones to be a priority when new software is released. i have never seen unbranded phones get software updates last....ever!

I think that is why people are so angry and frustrated.
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Old April 14th, 2012, 05:16 AM   #283 (permalink)
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I see what you were saying and i have done number 1 but the point is, people expect unbranded phones to be a priority when new software is released. i have never seen unbranded phones get software updates last....ever!

I think that is why people are so angry and frustrated.
Yea, I can understand the frustration. My phone was O2 branded but I got frustrated waiting for O2 to release it's firmware, so jumped on the ODIN band wagon. All I want is the latest firmware for my handset and I have it.

I'm thinking that maybe Samsung have some kind of legal obligation to support the carriers needs first?? I'm not sure.
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Old April 14th, 2012, 05:29 AM   #284 (permalink)
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I can understand the frustration and anger, but we don't want to see posts bashing or belittling other members for expressing their opinions. Disagreement is fine, personal insults definitely are not.

Please remember the maxim "attack issues, not people".
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I'd like to know what exactly Samsung have said, most of what I've heard as been second hand. It seems to be that Samsung are keeping very quiet, they're getting criticised for being quiet. They're also being criticised for what they have said so really, they can't win unless they manage to accurately predict exactly when it will be ready, which I don't think it's fair to expect. If I was them, I'd keep quiet unless a few days before release when they actually can be sure.

I don't imagine it's a high priority for them and that will make it even more unpredictable. There's a small number of people who especially care about ICS, but who can't (or won't for whatever reason, e.g. warranty) do an ODIN upgrade.

I know it's easy for me to say this when I have ICS, but it's really nothing special. The only difference I notice on a day-to-day bases is Chrome Beta, which is the best mobile browser I've used. The stock browser is good on GB and improved on ICS, but Chrome is a step up again.
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Yes the Chrome beta is pretty nice.
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This must be a buggy update vodafone still dont know when it will be done
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They say it came to Canada today but still waiting for it to come out for BMC.
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Got a big update lets see ill get back to you all

Edit: Its ICS didnt read properly so vodafone aus users upgrade!
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Got a big update lets see ill get back to you all

Edit: Its ICS didnt read properly so vodafone aus users upgrade!
It's been out for about a week now. See here.
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