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Old January 13th, 2012, 12:03 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Grrrrrrr....it hit me today. Using the same charger I have been using for 30 days


Plugged in phone at 9% and used for about 45 mins before I fell asleep


Phone was at 15%

Took phone off charger at 8 am, it was at 100%.


Its now noon and the meter is still at 100% and I know it is not right.

I am currently using one of my eBay batteries

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Old January 13th, 2012, 04:36 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Perhaps I'll by a second OEM Samsung battery and see if the results change for the one charger I have the issue with. Finishing he testing on the current Scosche should be interesting. I haven't tested the two cables known to cause issues with one charger.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 07:11 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Grrrrrrr....it hit me today. Using the same charger I have been using for 30 days


Plugged in phone at 9% and used for about 45 mins before I fell asleep


Phone was at 15%

Took phone off charger at 8 am, it was at 100%.





Its now noon and the meter is still at 100% and I know it is not right.

I am currently using one of my eBay batteries
Correction....this is a stock battery , the one out of her phone
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Perhaps I'll by a second OEM Samsung battery and see if the results change for the one charger I have the issue with. Finishing he testing on the current Scosche should be interesting. I haven't tested the two cables known to cause issues with one charger.
No worries I have two. It would appear that this entire time my wife has had the issue it had just not shown itself. I never thought to test hers :/


I ran another test for today to verify the issue is reproduced
Will have her charge this battery in her phone tonight with my charger and see if it happens again in her phone

Should have a sure verofied answer tomorrow that this is or is not battery specific triggered by specific chargers
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I know this has been answered already. But I had the same issue and it was due to the charger. I was using a POWERCURVE MOBILE charger. After I switched back to my Samsung charger the problem was fixed. Even when using a Motorola charger this issue never came up...
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I know this has been answered already. But I had the same issue and it was due to the charger. I was using a POWERCURVE MOBILE charger. After I switched back to my Samsung charger the problem was fixed. Even when using a Motorola charger this issue never came up...
The issue is brought forward by using a different charger, the actual issue is in the battery itself.

Many are experiencing it on the stock charger as well

can you check you charger and let me know if is the 1 a version or the .7 version please, in the research we have been doing we are finding that they have used both


also a quick note

Normally my phone runs flawlessly and smoothly

while this battery is in my phone it is a completely different phone and not in a good way.

I am having data issues
Not receiving calls
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Old January 14th, 2012, 01:56 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Well, well... after my initial testing with my oft stated, preferred Belkin dual port charger which caused problems, I have found no other problems with any of the other chargers I've tested... until today. The Scosche dual port charger "stuck" me today with one of the two cables that always gives the Belkin a hard time. It worked just fine last night with the AT&T "Charge only Cable," as that cable did with the Belkin.

http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-reVIVE-Dual-Home-Charger/dp/B003N7NO4G/ref=sr_1_29?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1326445451&s r=1-29

Both the cables that gave me trouble with the Belkin gave me trouble with this one. AT&T's Zero Charge cable worked fine... just like on the Belkin... but it's no good for data connections.
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Old January 16th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Interesting findings in my test guys

My wife's phone plus her battery an HTC cable and iPhone charging block yields no issue

My phone with the above yields stuck @ 100%


Still testing to find the cause
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Looking closely at the AT&T Charge only cable... it appears no different from a standard MicroUSB cable. 4 pins on the large end, 5 on the MicroUSB connector. What's the extra pin? It can only be duplicating voltage (or ground, which seems unlikely) to a 5th connection inside the device. The connector is too small for me to get anything inside to test continuity from one end of the cable to the other. Whatever is missing from this cable is partially responsibe since I can't make it cause the issue on any of the chargers I have tested... 50% of which cause the problem with any standard cable. Somewhere, inside this cable, at least one of the 5 pins is not connected to anything.
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Had the "stuck at 100%" problem with the charger that came with the phone. When I
Use a blackberry wall charger, the problem disappeared and the meter seems to be working. Hope this helps.
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This keeps getting more and more interesting.

My skyrocket
Has issue when charged with apple wall block only 1 stock battery
Has issue when charged with Zenus dock any battery
Using same cable above

Her skyrocket
No combination of charger/cable/battery causes the issue
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Update.

Wife called in to ATT about a different issue and mentioned our battery woes

She was transferred to tech support and they immediately offered to send us new batteries

They asked us to charge Only via USB/pc over the weekend and they are calling us Monday to follow up

We were told to keep the old batteries

If the problem continues we are to take our phones in for testing to determine if the phones should be replaced.

What I need from you...

MIDIman you have specific cables that cause the issue..can you charge via USB/PC and tell me if it still does the 100% bug

Same goes for anyone else having the problem.

Will update next week!

Without a shadow of a doubt they know something is wrong...but it sounds like they do not know how to fix it
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MIDIman you have specific cables that cause the issue..can you charge via USB/PC and tell me if it still does the 100% bug
Never tried that. I like to keep the phone by the headboard when I sleep but I have a nice little tillable, portable laptop stand that's perfect for bedside. Have never charged from the PC. Will give it a shot with one of the two known cables that causes problems with select chargers. Not ALL chargers.

Maybe I should call them and ger a free battery too. I took it up to the store today and took advantage of their price guaranty. I got $50 knocked off my bill because they lowered the price that much a week after I bought it. Tomorrow is day 30 for me.

I mentioned the SIM issue. Others are posting pics of their LTE SIMS and claiming they all have green blocks on one side. Mine is blue in that area. They said I have the right SIM and the color is not indicative of anything. They said if I had the wrong SIM, my data connection would probably not work properly. I'm not convinced so I had planned to call and ask about it tomorrow anyway. How would I know? I don't think we have LTE here but I'm not even sure of that. I was halfway down the block when I thought to ask.
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I am not sure what areas in New York have LTE but do this, go to menu.settings.about phone and see what is listed under network. That is the best way to tell for sure.

From everything I have read the cards are fine as long as they are not the ols cingular card....the provisioning on the account is the important part



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Never tried that. I like to keep the phone by the headboard when I sleep but I have a nice little tillable, portable laptop stand that's perfect for bedside. Have never charged from the PC. Will give it a shot with one of the two known cables that causes problems with select chargers. Not ALL chargers.

Maybe I should call them and ger a free battery too. I took it up to the store today and took advantage of their price guaranty. I got $50 knocked off my bill because they lowered the price that much a week after I bought it. Tomorrow is day 30 for me.

I mentioned the SIM issue. Others are posting pics of their LTE SIMS and claiming they all have green blocks on one side. Mine is blue in that area. They said I have the right SIM and the color is not indicative of anything. They said if I had the wrong SIM, my data connection would probably not work properly. I'm not convinced so I had planned to call and ask about it tomorrow anyway. How would I know? I don't think we have LTE here but I'm not even sure of that. I was halfway down the block when I thought to ask.
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I am not sure what areas in New York have LTE but do this, go to menu.settings.about phone and see what is listed under network. That is the best way to tell for sure.

From everything I have read the cards are fine as long as they are not the old cingular card....the provisioning on the account is the important part



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Never tried that. I like to keep the phone by the headboard when I sleep but I have a nice little tillable, portable laptop stand that's perfect for bedside. Have never charged from the PC. Will give it a shot with one of the two known cables that causes problems with select chargers. Not ALL chargers.

Maybe I should call them and ger a free battery too. I took it up to the store today and took advantage of their price guaranty. I got $50 knocked off my bill because they lowered the price that much a week after I bought it. Tomorrow is day 30 for me.

I mentioned the SIM issue. Others are posting pics of their LTE SIMS and claiming they all have green blocks on one side. Mine is blue in that area. They said I have the right SIM and the color is not indicative of anything. They said if I had the wrong SIM, my data connection would probably not work properly. I'm not convinced so I had planned to call and ask about it tomorrow anyway. How would I know? I don't think we have LTE here but I'm not even sure of that. I was halfway down the block when I thought to ask.
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I don't see anything specific in the location your mentioned. No "Network" under menu.settings.about phone. There is Wireless and Networking... but I could discover nothing there.

Ah... under status, it says Network: AT&T, Mobile network type: HSPA.

The 6' cable that has given me trouble in concert with two chargers (not not two OTHER chargers) worked fine off the laptop last night.
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Sorry this post is sloppy...on my way to work

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Its the kernel.. trying to organize my findings now , but that is why my wife's phone does not do it and mine does.

The stock kernel definitely does it ...just tested that. At least one of the Dev kernels does it. I sent him a pm in hopes of a solution there

What I am looking for now is how many official kernels were released.. if this kernel was part of the 2.3.6 update then that very well be the mystery reason it was pulled (or one of them) and why one Dec kernel does it but the other does not (different base?)

I have to go in to work but will pick back up on this from there.





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If any of you having the issue could let me know

Stock 2.3.5
Stock 2.3.6

Rooted which rom and kernel

Thanks!

This issue may very well be why 2.3.6 update was pulled
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Ok, so far this is what I have, testing ATT kernels. I don't know enough to dissect these to know the kernel is the issue, but the kernel definitely affects whether or not the issue is present. I started this with the notion that it was a defective battery, tested on two skyrockets, multiple cables and chargers and have 2 stock batteries, 3 generic. I have used primarily quickwiz and buoyancy, these results were on buoyancy

Faux kernels: I have this bug. His kernel is based on 2.6.35.14 from what is listed in his thread. CPU spy lists 2.6.35.14 gcc version 4.4.1
I have the issue while on version .8 and the new version .9

Da_g kernels: I do not have this bug (at least not any of the versions I tested)
tested .3 listed in CPU spy to be 2.6.35 gcc version 4.4.1
and .42 listed in CPU spy to be 2.6..35.11 gcc version 4.4.1

Using the stock kernel listed in Da_g's thread I DO however have this issue
that kernel is listed in CPU spy to be 2.6.35.11-I727UCKJ2-CL6260251, it also does not appear to sleep but I have not been testing this, processor was pegged at 1512 entire time

romracer Stockish: I don't have the issue on this Kernel. Phone isn't sleeping and processor was pegged at 1512 but again, I have not been testing this. listed to be 2.6.35.11+ gcc version 4.4.1





still trying to figure out if the kernel that shipped was different than the kernel in the 2.3.6 OTA update. I am doing this at work and getting interrupted pretty frequently today.

I also believe there are two issues ...a kernel issue, and a battery issue.

I have one battery that I believe was bad, which is what instigated the tests. I am going back tonight to test strictly that one battery with all kernels.

Hopefully our kernel devs can help with the issue...

not sure what to tell folks who are stock and having the issue lol
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I'm stock 2.3.5.
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Ha... on the phone right now with AT&T Customer Care and, after explaining my problem, they have offered to SELL me a replacement battery for $30 or a Duracell for $35.

Will update...

This obviously won't fix my issue, but I'll take a free battery if they'll give me one.

Now I'm on hold while he speaks to the warranty department.

Have now been transferred to the warranty department and am trying to understand Chinese.

I am being admonished in broken English about charging my phone over night, but they're sending me a battery. Really? I'm supposed to sit there for 2.36 hours, wait for the extremely faint beep and immediately disconnect my phone?? Charging it before bed and giving it eight hours of drain time before I leave is kind of ridiculous. Maybe I can explain to my employer (I don't really have one) that I need to come in three hours late every day so I can charge the phone after waking up.

I have no idea if she said anything about returning the original battery. I didn't understand 70% of what she said. I hate that crap. She did have a very nice, frequent giggle though...
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Lol. Thanks for the update...

For what it is worth....taking it off or letting it sit afyer full charge has no affect. It sticks either way
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Yeah. I know. I was just after a free battery in case I actually have to use the phone a lot one day. I've let it go 48 hours of typical use for me (after the honeymoon) and still had a 69% charge.

They claim letting it sit on the charge overnight will shorten battery life, I think. Hard to tell between accent and giggling.
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My problem is a little different - my battery appears to be charging when plugged in, but never reaches over 15% even after 20 hours plugged in. Had the phone since 12/5/11 and worked great until 1 week ago. I don't have many apps but 2 days before this happened I installed sugarsync. Not sure if this is related or not.
ATT sent new battery - same issue. Tried charging with the phone off as they suggested - 14 hours - still no charge. Shows battery empty the minute I unplug it.
ATT store tried a fully charged battery in my phone and it showed to be dead as well. Since over 30 days referred to warranty dept. First guy had me go through many idiotic things already tried and would not veer from the "cookie cutter recipe" he was reading from. After a 20 - 30 minute phone call he finally acknowledged "known issue from manufacturer and there is a firmware update needed". Told me he would send the update to my phone and I would need to "click INSTALL" when it appeared, and it might then take up to 24 hours to update.
Waited 2 hours - still no "install" to click has appeared so called them back. GREAT! This person asked me the same idiotic questions, had me go through all the same steps the other guy had until I got upset and told her wasn't doing all this again, "just need to know about the firmware please". She then told me the phone was updated 1 hour ago, to turn the phone off and charge it only 3 - 4 hours, no longer.
She advised I should:
Never charge until completely drained
Always power off the phone when charging
Charge only for 3 - 4 hours and never charge overnight!
Are they kidding? I was told many years ago this was no longer required with cell phone batteries.

Anyway, charged the phone for "4 hours only" in "off mode" as told last night and after 4 hours it was at 19%! Left it powered on while I slept so it would again be completely drained this a.m. so I can try it again. This phone will be monopolizing my weekend (and my life).

By the way - using the charger that came with the phone and have tried wall plug and USB to PC with no difference. Same problem using my car charger (micro usb) that was NOT made for the skyrocket.
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Where in Texas are you? I would love to try and trouble shoot this

unfortunately it sounds like a bad phone though.


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ATT sent new battery - same issue. Tried charging with the phone off as they suggested - 14 hours - still no charge. Shows battery empty the minute I unplug it.
ATT store tried a fully charged battery in my phone and it showed to be dead as well. Since over 30 days referred to warranty dept. First guy had me go through many idiotic things already tried and would not veer from the "cookie cutter recipe" he was reading from. After a 20 - 30 minute phone call he finally acknowledged "known issue from manufacturer and there is a firmware update needed". Told me he would send the update to my phone and I would need to "click INSTALL" when it appeared, and it might then take up to 24 hours to update.
Waited 2 hours - still no "install" to click has appeared so called them back. GREAT! This person asked me the same idiotic questions, had me go through all the same steps the other guy had until I got upset and told her wasn't doing all this again, "just need to know about the firmware please". She then told me the phone was updated 1 hour ago, to turn the phone off and charge it only 3 - 4 hours, no longer.
She advised I should:
Never charge until completely drained
Always power off the phone when charging
Charge only for 3 - 4 hours and never charge overnight!
Are they kidding? I was told many years ago this was no longer required with cell phone batteries.

Anyway, charged the phone for "4 hours only" in "off mode" as told last night and after 4 hours it was at 19%! Left it powered on while I slept so it would again be completely drained this a.m. so I can try it again. This phone will be monopolizing my weekend (and my life).

By the way - using the charger that came with the phone and have tried wall plug and USB to PC with no difference. Same problem using my car charger (micro usb) that was NOT made for the skyrocket.
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Where in Texas are you? I would love to try and trouble shoot this

unfortunately it sounds like a bad phone though.
And it sounds much like an issue that would be caused by another theory of mine... that somewhere in the circuitry of the phone is a piece of the power supply that is responsible for delivering regulated voltage to the battery. Somehow I'm reasonably convinced that this charge/power supply circuit has to be the source of the problem.
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And it sounds much like an issue that would be caused by another theory of mine... that somewhere in the circuitry of the phone is a piece of the power supply that is responsible for delivering regulated voltage to the battery. Somehow I'm reasonably convinced that this charge/power supply circuit has to be the source of the problem.
At this point I have tried and tested everything I can (and care too lol)

I have spent too much time on this silly venture and honestly we are no closer to knowing the cause than we were three weeks ago.

It seems every time we think we have it narrowed down, a new variable presents itself.
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At this point I have tried and tested everything I can (and care too lol)

Yeah. I have my solution. The AT&T Zero Charge cable charges my phone consistently and reliably regardless of what charger I use. So does the OEM charger regardless of what cable I use. Since I charge the phone in the same place 99.5% of the time, I'm good. I have more than enough reliable solutions. Anyone who doesn't and wants one, I still highly recommend picking up the AT&T Zero Charge cable for $9.99. I've never been able to make the phone malfunction using it in combination with anything else.
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unfortunately it sounds like a bad phone though.
Southeast Texas, near Beaumont.
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My problem is a little different - my battery appears to be charging when plugged in, but never reaches over 15% even after 20 hours plugged in. Had the phone since 12/5/11 and worked great until 1 week ago. I don't have many apps but 2 days before this happened I installed sugarsync. Not sure if this is related or not.
ATT sent new battery - same issue. Tried charging with the phone off as they suggested - 14 hours - still no charge. Shows battery empty the minute I unplug it.
ATT store tried a fully charged battery in my phone and it showed to be dead as well. Since over 30 days referred to warranty dept. First guy had me go through many idiotic things already tried and would not veer from the "cookie cutter recipe" he was reading from. After a 20 - 30 minute phone call he finally acknowledged "known issue from manufacturer and there is a firmware update needed". Told me he would send the update to my phone and I would need to "click INSTALL" when it appeared, and it might then take up to 24 hours to update.
Waited 2 hours - still no "install" to click has appeared so called them back. GREAT! This person asked me the same idiotic questions, had me go through all the same steps the other guy had until I got upset and told her wasn't doing all this again, "just need to know about the firmware please". She then told me the phone was updated 1 hour ago, to turn the phone off and charge it only 3 - 4 hours, no longer.
She advised I should:
Never charge until completely drained
Always power off the phone when charging
Charge only for 3 - 4 hours and never charge overnight!
Are they kidding? I was told many years ago this was no longer required with cell phone batteries.

Anyway, charged the phone for "4 hours only" in "off mode" as told last night and after 4 hours it was at 19%! Left it powered on while I slept so it would again be completely drained this a.m. so I can try it again. This phone will be monopolizing my weekend (and my life).

By the way - using the charger that came with the phone and have tried wall plug and USB to PC with no difference. Same problem using my car charger (micro usb) that was NOT made for the skyrocket.

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unfortunately it sounds like a bad phone though.
UPDATE: After another 30 minute BS call with ATT warranty - they FINALLY concede the phone is a problem and are sending me out a new (refurbished) phone. What does anyone think of this? I paid top dollar for a new phone less than 2 months ago and am getting in return a refurbished phone? I understand the "warranty" will still be honored for the same time, but still...

Can anyone advise me whether there are really better chargers, cables, etc. that can prevent this from happening again? Does it really matter if you use a cable/charger that did not come with the phone? (I always figured if it fits and seems to connect it's okay. Also feel it is ridiculous to keep spending money for new chargers, cables, accessories each time I upgrade, and thus filling our landfills with perfectly good accessories).

For example, could using the micro USB car charger that I purchased for my previous phone have caused damage to the Samsung phone? I am pretty naive on this so appreciate any advice one can give. This was my first "smart" phone and I LOVED IT but am now feeling exasperated by the experience.
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Can anyone advise me whether there are really better chargers, cables, etc. that can prevent this from happening again? Does it really matter if you use a cable/charger that did not come with the phone? (I always figured if it fits and seems to connect it's okay. Also feel it is ridiculous to keep spending money for new chargers, cables, accessories each time I upgrade, and thus filling our landfills with perfectly good accessories).

For example, could using the micro USB car charger that I purchased for my previous phone have caused damage to the Samsung phone? I am pretty naive on this so appreciate any advice one can give. This was my first "smart" phone and I LOVED IT but am now feeling exasperated by the experience.
Your problem is substantially different from what the majority of this thread addresses. IF your phone charges to 100% you just need to find a solution which works for you to keep the battery indicator from being stuck at 100%. For me, the charger and cable that came with the phone work fine. It doesn't seem to be the same story for everyone. The single thing that I have found is that using a "charge only" cable will prevent this issue no matter what charger I use. It wouldn't have helped with your phone's failure to charge.
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unfortunately that is how warranty programs work..there is no guaranty that a new device will be sent...but there is also nothing against politely pushing for a new device.

and beaumont is way to far away haha
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Also... I got nothing against refurbs. They've been through a pretty strict process to get them repaired. they've been looked at very closely. I used to sell a lot of refurbed Sony gear back in the day. I had almost no trouble with any of it. It's not like it's going to come out of the box all scratched with someone else s fingerprints on it.
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It's not like it's going to come out of the box all scratched with someone else s fingerprints on it.
Although it isn't common.....this actually has happened before.

HTC had huge qc issues on refurbished a couple of years ago.

It's just really rare.

If you get a bad refurbished, call immediately
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I have found the issues turn on all you settings on power saving mode and it will work
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I had the same issue battery stuck at 100% I turned on all power saving settings now battery drains
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Hmmm. Will test.
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yeah someone over on xda mentioned that. doesn't seem to fix my situation but awesome if it fixes others
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My.wife has the same phone she never had a problem I bought my 3 weeks ago right of the box I was having problems battery indicator at 100% but I knew it wasn't I shut down my phone than it read 50% I compared my phone with my wife's set all settings like hers notice on power saving mode setting all of hers were clicked disable wifi if not in use disable Bluetooth if not in use my wasn't so I clicked them retested charged to 100% watched some YouTube checked my battery level and it read 98% .it never did that before so now I'm happy I hope you can fix it cause it made me go insane
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My.wife has the same phone she never had a problem I bought my 3 weeks ago right of the box I was having problems battery indicator at 100% but I knew it wasn't I shut down my phone than it read 50% I compared my phone with my wife's set all settings like hers notice on power saving mode setting all of hers were clicked disable wifi if not in use disable Bluetooth if not in use my wasn't so I clicked them retested charged to 100% watched some YouTube checked my battery level and it read 98% .it never did that before so now I'm happy I hope you can fix it cause it made me go insane
I won't be able to fix it..as a matter of fact I am pretty much done with this site, and ATT...just kind of posting here and there.
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Well it work for me and pretty sure it will work for others never thought I would be happy to see my battery drain sorry Mr ed but your Fu@led
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Well it work for me and pretty sure it will work for others never thought I would be happy to see my battery drain sorry Mr ed but your Fu@led
No, I fixed ours by running a custom kernel
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The problem is that most 3rd party chargers have usb pins 2+3 connected through a resistive voltage divider to accommodate Apple products , other products such as HTC to date ignore USB pins 2+3 , Samsug prooducts look for a short between pins 2 and 3 , if you take a after market charger and measure resistance you will see approximately 30K ohms between pins 2+3 , The Samsung phone will charge at haf rate 0.2% per minute and the charge indicator will not work properly , taking this aftermarket charger (lighter plugs included) breaking them open and soldering a short between 2+3 will solve this issue completely , the Samsung uses the new convention of USB . Please read the Wikipedia excerpt below ...all of my modified adaptors work great and charge in half the time prior to this mod...If you're lazy simply slit open a USB cable and short pin 2 and 3 usually green and white wires . Hope this helps everyone .... Regards Howard Rosen VE2AED

Charging ports and accessory charging adapters

The Battery Charging Specification of 2007 defines new types of USB ports, e.g., charging ports.[43] As compared to standard downstream ports, where a portable device can only draw more than 100 mA current after digital negotiation with the host or hub, charging ports can supply currents above 0.5 A without digital negotiation. A charging port supplies up to 500 mA at 5 V, up to the rated current at 3.6 V or more, and drop its output voltage if the portable device attempts to draw more than the rated current. The charger port may shut down if the load is too high.

Charging ports exist in two flavors: charging downstream ports (CDP), supporting data transfers as well, and dedicated charging ports (DCP), without data support. A portable device can recognize the type of USB port from the way the D+ and D- pins are connected. For example, on a dedicated charging port, the D+ and D- pins are shorted. With charging downstream ports, current passing through the thin ground wire may interfere with high-speed data signals. Therefore, current draw may not exceed 900 mA during high-speed data transfer. A dedicated charge port may have a rated current between 0.5 and 1.5 A. There is no upper limit for the rated current of a charging downstream port, as long as the connector can handle the current (standard USB 2.0 A-connectors are rated at 1.5 A).

Before the battery charging specification was defined, there was no standardized way for the portable device to inquire how much current was available. For example, Apple's iPod and iPhone chargers indicate the available current by voltages on the D- and D+ lines. When D+ = D- = 2V, the device may pull up to 500 mA. When D+ = 2.0 V and D- = 2.8 V, the device may pull up to 1000 mA of current.[44]

Dedicated charging ports can be found on USB power adapters that convert utility power or another power source e.g., a car's electrical system to run attached devices and battery packs. On a host (such as a laptop computer) with both standard and charging USB ports, the charging ports should be labeled as such.[43]

To support simultaneous charge and sync, even if the communication port doesn't support charging a demanding device, so called accessory charging adapters are introduced, where a charging port and a communication port can be combined into a single port.

The Battery Charging Specification 1.2 of 2010 [9] makes clear, that there are safety limits to the rated current at 5 A coming from USB 2.0. On the other hand several changes are made and limits are increasing including allowing 1.5 A on charging ports for unconfigured devices, allowing high speed communication while having a current up to 1.5 A and allowing a maximum current of 5 A.
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I have had my SR for 2 weeks and the stuck battery meter has been an irritation, minor compared to many others I'm finding as I transition from Blackberry.

However, this has been a fascinating thread and the level of detail and gathering of empirical evidence is impressive. While not an electrical engineer, I have done quite a bit of electrical work on my boat and learned a few things that may be pertinent.

First, the cable could be significant. There is a noticeable and material voltage drop that occurs through wire. The amount of loss is a function of wire length and gauge. A difference in wire length of a couple feet does make a difference. Longer cable/smaller wire means more voltage drop. Perhaps the component that regulates battery charging (whether in the battery or in the SR itself) is very sensitive to voltage and this somehow throws off charging.

I'll shoot down my own observation though. The problem doesn't seem to be charging the battery but rather measuring battery capacity.

Second, battery capacity is calculated based on voltage and temperature. Battery voltage drops as the battery is used. Also, battery capacity drops as temperature drops.

It would be interesting if someone plotted the battery temperature and voltage of the battery both when capacity is reported correctly and when it's stuck.

Perhaps there's a defective battery temperature sensor or voltage meter that causes the capacity to be falsely calculated.

While possible, it seems unlikely that there's a defect in the hardware (temperature and/or voltage sensor). So most likely this is a software issue. Mr. Ed's kernel experiments support this. Whatever is supposed to trigger a new reading of the temperature and voltage is failing.
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No... the guy before you has it. What he has stated falls exactly inline with my findings. Why does a charge only cable never cause the problem? What's the difference in the pin connections between a data and charge only cable? It's gotta be pins 2 & 3.
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I have had my SR for 2 weeks and the stuck battery meter has been an irritation, minor compared to many others I'm finding as I transition from Blackberry.

However, this has been a fascinating thread and the level of detail and gathering of empirical evidence is impressive. While not an electrical engineer, I have done quite a bit of electrical work on my boat and learned a few things that may be pertinent.

First, the cable could be significant. There is a noticeable and material voltage drop that occurs through wire. The amount of loss is a function of wire length and gauge. A difference in wire length of a couple feet does make a difference. Longer cable/smaller wire means more voltage drop. Perhaps the component that regulates battery charging (whether in the battery or in the SR itself) is very sensitive to voltage and this somehow throws off charging.

I'll shoot down my own observation though. The problem doesn't seem to be charging the battery but rather measuring battery capacity.

Second, battery capacity is calculated based on voltage and temperature. Battery voltage drops as the battery is used. Also, battery capacity drops as temperature drops.

It would be interesting if someone plotted the battery temperature and voltage of the battery both when capacity is reported correctly and when it's stuck.

Perhaps there's a defective battery temperature sensor or voltage meter that causes the capacity to be falsely calculated.

While possible, it seems unlikely that there's a defect in the hardware (temperature and/or voltage sensor). So most likely this is a software issue. Mr. Ed's kernel experiments support this. Whatever is supposed to trigger a new reading of the temperature and voltage is failing.
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i've encountered this issue during my first week of use. i do use the car charger that i used to use for my blackberry so i dont know if thats the issue. its done it twice after full charges. turning the phone off/on brought the meter back to reality both times. before charging it again i did a battery pull and it appears things are back to normal for now. its kind of irritating that such a fancy phone would have such an issue for a basic function but so far its not a deal breaker, its pretty obvious the meter is wrong if it hasn't gone down after some use. if i can call att and get an extra battery for my troubles it might be worth it since the battery life of this thing kinda convincing me to get a spare anyway. we'll see.
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3 full charges later ( coincidently without using my car charger) and no issues again. We'll see.
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Hi all,

I too am having this annoying issue.

Clearly I need to charge with the OEM cable, but I need a charger for both home and office.

Is there a cable/wall plug that I can safely pick up for my office?

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