i hope the S4 rumors are wrong and the LTE issues are worked out with Exynos....i thought there was an article that said the next Exynos will work with LTE?
The Exynos might only work with Korean LTE frequencies and not the US ones. That's why they would need Qualcomm. I guess we'll find out next week.
The Exynos might only work with Korean LTE frequencies and not the US ones. That's why they would need Qualcomm. I guess we'll find out next week.
I guess so too. Technically if they could manage to make new Exynos work with their LTE chip, it should be possible to make it work with LTE frequencies in US.
But the big question is how stable, reliable is their new Exynos/LTE setup? If it's not fully baked yet, I would rather have qualcomm S4/LTE configuration which is more proven and stable.
Still just 1080p video recording @ 30fps. Not a good start...
I really don't understand why you are bothered by this, it is not a dedicated camcorder device. If I was so bothered by this fact that it effects my video recording quality, I would spend extra money to buy a dedicated camcorder with better quality. And digital camcorder are really cheap now.
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Well if the 'new' 30fps comes without a grainy and blurry mess when moving about, then all is well.
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In regards to the 'lesser' 1.4Ghz, remember that Apple underclock the iPhone, and are reaping some kind of performance benefit from doing so, so Samsung may be trying to deliver their own blend of this trick with the S3, and may even smack-talk the Gigahertz war a little at the event.
I was still holding out for a console announcement (or to announce that it's on the agenda), but now I don't think they'd want such news stealing headline weight away from the SIII.
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I guess so too. Technically if they could manage to make new Exynos work with their LTE chip, it should be possible to make it work with LTE frequencies in US.
But the big question is how stable, reliable is their new Exynos/LTE setup? If it's not fully baked yet, I would rather have qualcomm S4/LTE configuration which is more proven and stable.
I agree. The other problem is that Qualcomm said they are having difficulty in getting the S4 out in volume. That might make the US launch much later. I currently have the Skyrocket and am not about to give up LTE to get the quadcore and HSPA+ only. I hope it is available from ATT before the iphone 5.
Well if the 'new' 30fps comes without a grainy and blurry mess when moving about, then all is well.
Well I was very happy with both the SII and Note camera (I think they're the same, although they use different connectors), it can only improve from there.
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From what I can gather that setup would be as good as or outperform the quad core, so why wouldn't they make all models with that ?
I think it'll be the snapdragon thing and they will release another phone in the next 12 months with the 5250 and LTE
Regardless of performance it would be cheaper for them to use the chip they produce themselves than buy one from Qualcomm. Business 101.
Regardless of performance it would be cheaper for them to use the chip they produce themselves than buy one from Qualcomm. Business 101.
Exactly if they can manufacture and install there own chip cheaper its a no brainer. Stupid U.S. LTE networks are killing me!!! not really but you guys understand what i am saying.
Hope you guys in the U.S get it for Christmas, I think it will really hurt Samsung if it doesn't happen, I'm sure they know Apple will be ready to start Patent Wars episode XIV to block Christmas sales on the SIII in the U.S, and I hope Samsung has some countermeasure patents to fight the iPhone 5 with, We may possibly see a humungous patent poopstorm later this year, making what we've seen so far look mild.
I'm afraid you're right, this just sucks for consumer, delaying products and raising the price.
In regards to the 'lesser' 1.4Ghz, remember that Apple underclock the iPhone, and are reaping some kind of performance benefit from doing so, so Samsung may be trying to deliver their own blend of this trick with the S3, and may even smack-talk the Gigahertz war a little at the event.
care to explain what you mean? underclocking a cpu makes the cpu slower, so why would there be a performance gain?
Leaked rumor is leaked. How many major leaks do you think we'll see now until the 3rd? I say 5 (one of which being the actual device).
4.8 would be nice. Wouldn't mind it at 4.65 though. I think the phone will be leaked before May 3rd too :dito:
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"A lower clock not only means higher yields from the factory, but likely a lower operating voltage as well. Dropping a CPU’s core voltage, yields a greater-than-linear decrease in power consumption, making the marginal loss in clock speed a good choice. At a lower operating frequency than its Android competitors, Apple does have to exploit its strengths in software to avoid any tangible performance penalties. Apple has traditionally done this very well in the past, so I don’t expect the loss of frequency to be a huge deal to the few who do cross-shop iOS and Android."
On a side note, I should totally get Telstra's SII 4G (again, it's counterfeit 4G - it's just a 40mbps ceiling HSPA+ network) and sell it on ebay as an S3, it's a supersized SII that retains the home button, unlike the american ones. Looks very similar to the fake S3s lol.
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And now a shot of the back of the phone from the same link
Well if they're from the same tipster, now we know they are both definitely fake.. the 2nd image has been up on the net for a while now and doesn't look like it follows the curvier form factor of the first. Haha as others have pointed out, a bunch of leaks are going to be coming closer to the release date, but ppl like me just can't settle down and wait
"A lower clock not only means higher yields from the factory, but likely a lower operating voltage as well. Dropping a CPU’s core voltage, yields a greater-than-linear decrease in power consumption, making the marginal loss in clock speed a good choice. At a lower operating frequency than its Android competitors, Apple does have to exploit its strengths in software to avoid any tangible performance penalties. Apple has traditionally done this very well in the past, so I don’t expect the loss of frequency to be a huge deal to the few who do cross-shop iOS and Android."
On a side note, I should totally get Telstra's SII 4G (again, it's counterfeit 4G - it's just a 40mbps ceiling HSPA+ network) and sell it on ebay as an S3, it's a supersized SII that retains the home button, unlike the american ones. Looks very similar to the fake S3s lol.
i'm not seeing the performance gain you're talking about. or am i reading it wrong and you meant battery performance
Well if they're from the same tipster, now we know they are both definitely fake.. the 2nd image has been up on the net for a while now and doesn't look like it follows the curvier form factor of the first. Haha as others have pointed out, a bunch of leaks are going to be coming closer to the release date, but ppl like me just can't settle down and wait
It's totally fake. Has no one noticed that second image of backside is actually GSII Epic touch on Sprint? These medias are just grabbing any garbage info to throw out rumor headlines. Now they got only three days to do that.
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LOL that picture of the back has been on the web since LAST SEPTEMBER. I can't wait till May 3rd. Not only to finally see the GS3, but to finally see an end to all these ridiculous articles.
I'm not buying those pics either, the one of the front of the phone is utterly horrendous as a product shot, it shows no detail and is somewhat vague at the top of the screen/samsung badge.
More pics of the dummy unit.
The dummy unit is said to be thinner than the S2 with a 12mp camera.
And their tipster said it would be available the week after release and that Sammy want to show off more than one phone hinting towards the i9800.
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their tipster said it would be available the week after release and that Sammy want to show off more than one phone hinting towards the i9800.
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I hope said "tipster" is legit. I posted this in the AC forums a few days ago, hopefully it will become a reality.
"In light of the recent Kies software GS 3 spot, I am really considering that the GT-i9300 (and T model) will in fact be the next iteration in the Galaxy S line and Samsung's next truly flagship device (GT-i9800 possibly) will be named something else entirely. Why go through all the secrecy and hype of releasing your "next" premier phone, only to blatantly display it through your own software a week early?"
So hold up. Samsung could be announcing another superphone that same day? Just what we need more confusion and rumors. I have a feeling that tomorrow being the last day before the big event, we are going to see the mother of all rumors. lol
I hope said "tipster" is legit. I posted this in the AC forums a few days ago, hopefully it will become a reality.
"In light of the recent Kies software GS 3 spot, I am really considering that the GT-i9300 (and T model) will in fact be the next iteration in the Galaxy S line and Samsung's next truly flagship device (GT-i9800 possibly) will be named something else entirely. Why go through all the secrecy and hype of releasing your "next" premier phone, only to blatantly display it through your own software a week early?"
Does anyone remember this article from Engadget a few months back?
Maybe the GT-i9800 is the flagship aka SGS3 and the GT-i9300 is something else entirely to do with the other Samsung Galaxy ranges?
I do feel 2 phones are definetely going to be announced on Thursday, i do hope that whatever the SGS3 is that it IS the actual flagship handset from Samsung.
Yeah I was thinking that as well. These blogs post so many rumors and crap that they actually contradict themselves from one article to the next. So brace yourself for the next 2 days. lol
No one said they would be leaving the Galaxy name, but perhaps the i9300 is not the true "next" Galaxy flagship device and the i9800 is.
Sure, so that makes the argument even stronger, why have all of those and now introduce another one ? They have enough already.
I'm going to go with the original guess that the i9300 is a downspec version.
Maybe we'll see them all being called the S3 but with a different suffix - lets say S3 Draco, S3 Virgo, S3 Hydra (all names of galaxies). It would basically reflect what they've done with the galaxy models in that link.
Or maybe just S3 and S3 Pro ?
Maybe the GT-i9800 is the flagship aka SGS3 and the GT-i9300 is something else entirely to do with the other Samsung Galaxy ranges?
I do feel 2 phones are definetely going to be announced on Thursday, i do hope that whatever the SGS3 is that it IS the actual flagship handset from Samsung.
the only reason they said that it wasn't the s3 is because of the reported screen resolution, which was wrong. lots of benchmarks have since released with the correct 720p resolution
The blogs are going to tell you whatever you want to see so that you click on their blog title and generate ad revenue for them. I bet a blog could be titled "Galaxy S3 rumored to be able to flip pancakes" and it would probably get a lot of ad revenue from clicks.
The blogs are going to tell you whatever you want to see so that you click on their blog title and generate ad revenue for them. I bet a blog could be titled "Galaxy S3 rumored to be able to flip pancakes" and it would probably get a lot of ad revenue from clicks.
Too bad the ad folks couldn't force the sites to have a button that said "Shameless post for click thru revenue? Press Here to revoke the funds"
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Don't be surprised to see snapdragon dual core on Att ...MAYBE exynos quadcore on Tmo (no lte issues..they don't have lte) actually heard some rumors they might be getting an exynos version of the note
most of what you have read should be true...although most of the pictures online are "lunchbox" photos ...internals in a generic shell.
I don't know much more than I did before my lunch with a friend today. They have kept info EXTREMELY limited. These guys are not even certain of what all will be revealed on Thurs.
worldwide simultaneous june release if that is even possible. (I just don't see that happening)
Don't be surprised to see snapdragon dual core on Att ...MAYBE exynos quadcore on Tmo (no lte issues..they don't have lte) actually heard some rumors they might be getting an exynos version of the note
tmobile will see dual core as well. no lte but the s2 is snapdragon not exynos
Don't be surprised to see snapdragon dual core on Att ...MAYBE exynos quadcore on Tmo (no lte issues..they don't have lte) actually heard some rumors they might be getting an exynos version of the note
most of what you have read should be true...although most of the pictures online are "lunchbox" photos ...internals in a generic shell.
Even if it ends up with S4 snapdragon on some carriers in US market, S4 is hugely more powerful than S3 dual snapdragon from last year in phones like Skyrocket, Rezound. That's way better than what your friend was vaguely implying at the beginning of year which had some of us worried.
I don't even rule out possibility of S4 pro in GSIII which has much faster Adreno GPU than normal S4. S4 Pro will be easily on par with or faster than quad Exynos 4412. From Qualcomm's roadmap, it's sampling just one quarter behind S4, so who knows. I guess we have wait for next round of flagship from Sammy for Exynos 5xxx/LTE beasts.
Snapdragon was underdog to Exynos, OMAP in performance until last year. So it left bad taste, negative perception in a lot of android fans. But new Krait S4 based on 28nm process is completely revamped one that can go head to head with Tegra3.
Don't be surprised to see snapdragon dual core on Att ...MAYBE exynos quadcore on Tmo (no lte issues..they don't have lte) actually heard some rumors they might be getting an exynos version of the note
most of what you have read should be true...although most of the pictures online are "lunchbox" photos ...internals in a generic shell.
I don't know much more than I did before my lunch with a friend today. They have kept info EXTREMELY limited. These guys are not even certain of what all will be revealed on Thurs.
worldwide simultaneous june release if that is even possible. (I just don't see that happening)
I highly doubt T-mobile will get the quadcore Exynos.
Honestly, even though it would put the phones pretty much equal spec wise, it feels like having the S4 in lieu of a new, Exynos CPU is a loss to the HTC one X. It's going to be out on Sunday, and the S3 surely won't be out for at least another month.
Overseas is another story obviously, but personally i see no reason not to jump on the One X for those, like me, who have been holding onto their upgrades for the S3. Major disappointment
Honestly, even though it would put the phones pretty much equal spec wise, it feels like having the S4 in lieu of a new, Exynos CPU is a loss to the HTC one X. It's going to be out on Sunday, and the S3 surely won't be out for at least another month.
Overseas is another story obviously, but personally i see no reason not to jump on the One X for those, like me, who have been holding onto their upgrades for the S3. Major disappointment
But if GSIII has better screen, form factor and removable large battery, I'd rather have it over One X. Fixed 1800mAh in One X is big minus for me.
Also the camera in GSIII might be better and who knows what other surprise features it might pack like wireless charging, water-proof nano coating, etc. There are a lot to find out in two days, not just processor spec.
Just some screen protector allegedly for the S3. They overlay it on top of the S2 and HOX and the front surface of the phone indicates i will be a bit longer than the HOX.
But if GSIII has better screen, form factor and removable large battery, I'd rather have it over One X. Fixed 1800mAh in One X is big minus for me.
Also the camera in GSIII might be better and who knows what other surprise features it might pack like wireless charging, water-proof nano coating, etc. There are a lot to find out in two days, not just processor spec.
I'll +1 to that.
Took the words right out of my mouth. HTC One X is great but I'm waiting to be wow-ed.
omg! have gone through too many leaks and rumours now. just cant wait for tomorrow. have been waiting on this one for quite a few months, and deferred the nexus for sammy to surprise me. hopefully it does, the socks off me! just cant wait!
hell... already confused about I9800/I9300/Nexus4(though this one has quite some time to come)....
and btw why hass I9500 suddenly lost steam?
fingers crossed, holding my breath..waiting for tomorrow.
why is it hard to believe a GSM carrier would not get a direct port of the manufacturer version since LTE is not an issue?
like i already said, the s2 used snapdragon instead of exynos because tmobile uses 42mb hspa, which the exynos doesn't support. snapdragon does.
will the new exynos support 42? maybe. we'll see
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But if GSIII has better screen, form factor and removable large battery, I'd rather have it over One X. Fixed 1800mAh in One X is big minus for me.
Also the camera in GSIII might be better and who knows what other surprise features it might pack like wireless charging, water-proof nano coating, etc. There are a lot to find out in two days, not just processor spec.
aside from the razr maxx, the one x has some of the best battery life of any phone on the market. whats to be disappointed about?
you really want this phone to be awesome don't you
Just passing along what i heard homie. he did not know for sure. Like i said...very hush hush they are being.
Lol so no chance of a CDMA/LTE Exynos like the one they pulled of in Korea? I know its different.
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why is it hard to believe a GSM carrier would not get a direct port of the manufacturer version since LTE is not an issue?
Xtop just answered the question for me. I'm just assuming. If Tmobile gets the same processor as the international version, I'm going to get pissed. I'm might switch up. Lol
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