My biggest question is battery life. Especially with the fancy background services. Perhaps the Quad core helps, but my GNex with flat tear through my extended batt with the screen on, and the GSIII is even bigger.
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- S-beam does not already exist. This uses wifi direct to send data which is hundreds if not thousands of times faster than NFC.
- S-voice does not already exist. It uses natural language rather than commands, so if you're thinking it's Vlingo, you're mistaken.
- cant comment on the us carriers. Can't you buy them sim free over there?
- Anandtech has posted some blazingly fast early benchmarks..fastest phone out there.
- call quality (or call volume, should I say) should be better because of an in call equaliser, nothing to do with carriers.
- I saw no shutter lag in any of the demos, it just shoots straight away?
Can't help but feel that people are picking on this phone just because it doesn't have a 2GHz quad core processor, 2GB RAM, a 6" display and wings.
I have a gs2 and I think it's a huge upgrade; not sure how anyone can say otherwise. Nearly all of the hardware has been upgraded and there are plenty of software improvements.
I'm not necessarily picking it apart...people often forget a good friend of mine is employed by Samsung. He told me we would see mild upgrades and clever marketing...that is exactly what I see
s-beam is already available now as wifi direct... they just gave it a snazzy new name..I use it frequently on my note. The sad part is they didn't even touch on the possibilities available with it as other manufacturers start to incorporate it into everyday devices
s-voice is in fact available on all samsung releases since the gs2...and yes. it is repackaged vlingo with a snazzy new name
come to find out..the floating video player is not new either. It is available now, in the market. It is called "stick it!" (pretty cool too, I bought it today)
The processor remarks do drive me crazy. The US will not see that processor AND LTE and the carriers want LTE...so for the US masses, those benchmarks are pointless
I don't doubt there is a new sound processor, and from what we know now thanks to supercurio maybe it will sound better, but every new phone claims this. my remarks to carrier call quality is in regards to signal..there is no voice software that they can put on a phone that will correct crap signal
As for shutter, I passed on owning a gs2, so my comparison is to the skyrocket and note, which do have a small amount of lag...and from I have seen in the demos it isn't much better...I would hold an official comment on that until I have one in hand.
many of our differences in opinion are that you will actually be coming from a gs2 and the international gs3 does have some improvements over that. in my case, coming from a Galaxy Note to a GS3 just wouldn't make sense (my opinion of course) and overall..yes, I think it is a mild upgrade, hardly worth spending $$ for if on contract already, and a waste of an upgrade if eligible for one.
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My biggest question is battery life. Especially with the fancy background services. Perhaps the Quad core helps, but my GNex with flat tear through my extended batt with the screen on, and the GSIII is even bigger.
Not to mention that the front facing camera will be on all the time scanning your eyes which I imagine would be a bit of a drain on the battery.
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s-beam is already available now as wifi direct... they just gave it a snazzy new name..I use it frequently on my note. The sad part is they didn't even touch on the possibilities available with it as other manufacturers start to incorporate it into everyday devices
s-voice is in fact available on all samsung releases since the gs2...and yes. it is repackaged vlingo with a snazzy new name
come to find out..the floating video player is not new either. It is available now, in the market. It is called "stick it!" (pretty cool too, I bought it today)
The processor remarks do drive me crazy. The US will not see that processor AND LTE and the carriers want LTE...so for the US masses, those benchmarks are pointless
I don't doubt there is a new sound processor, and from what we know now thanks to supercurio maybe it will sound better, but every new phone claims this. my remarks to carrier call quality is in regards to signal..there is no voice software that they can put on a phone that will correct crap signal
As for shutter, I passed on owning a gs2, so my comparison is to the skyrocket and note, which do have a small amount of lag...and from I have seen in the demos it isn't much better...I would hold an official comment on that until I have one in hand.
many of our differences in opinion are that you will actually be coming from a gs2 and the international gs3 does have some improvements over that. in my case, coming from a Galaxy Note to a GS3 just wouldn't make sense (my opinion of course) and overall..yes, I think it is a mild upgrade, hardly worth spending $$ for if on contract already, and a waste of an upgrade if eligible for one.
S-beam is a combination of the two features, it's not exactly wifi direct or Android beam, but both combined to make it more useful. Hopefully well still be able to access android beam and wifi direct. If not, that will suck!
The current Vlingo offerings are command based: "call my friend," "search the web," "weather for home." S voice will probably use Vlingos voice recognition, but it's not the same as current offerings as it uses natural language and ai. I.e.: "I want to take a picture" launches the camera. Some will call it gimmicky and to an extent it is, but more ways to access the same features without having to remember commands can only be a good thing.
There's minimal lag in my S2 camera too. I think burst and best shot are the better features, and the improved flash. Although it wasn't mentioned, I'm hoping the actual picture quality is improved also.
The exynos in the S2 is really fast already, so the new one will be incredible.
I think they're making a great effort to offer great hardware and software together as a package. I'll definitely be getting one, only question for me is when, because I want a 64GB version which is apparently not coming out until later.
Absolutely disgusting plastic design. Yuck. At least the GS2 looked pretty nice and fits in your hand.
HTC One X or Sony Xperia S are the best Android phones. People who buy this phone over HTC or Sony have no taste in art or beauty.
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Or maybe actually buy the phone to use it as a phone? One X can look nice but still has that clunky sense on there which will eventually slow the phone down like always.
I've had 3 HTC's (Hero, Desire Z, Desire HD), and yes, they're loving looking and Sense is beautiful, but each one of them, within 6 months, have slowed down to a minimum, they do not, in my experience, withstand time.
Moving over to S3 at the end of the month, and I genuinely can't wait.
Until we see an S2 versus S3 camera quality showdown, I have to say that 8 megapixels is a joke, I couldn't believe it.
I'm interested to know how big the extended battery will be when that comes. Although the III has 2100mAh out of the box, I don't think it'll really be 'enough' given the screen size and bunch of unnecessary battery draining features. I do think the SIIIs original battery will last longer for it than the SII's 1650mAh affair did for that, but they'll be in the same neighborhood. (Are extended batteries a great way to get people to pay more for the phone or what?)
Awaiting confirmation on USB 2.0 for the S3.... lol, I'd say 2.0 is a done deal now.
I was going to make a Dark Knight reference but we neither deserve nor need this, I declare the SIII nothing more than a Super Nexus with a fruity sauce topping in the form of TouchWiz.
8mp camera a joke ? why would that be ? higher pixel count means NOTHING to image quality nowadays. Its all about the sensor size and quality.
Ref the battery remember that the quad core cpu is 20% more efficient, from what i can gather its the mean reason for using it over dual core.
Why do you want USB 3 ? its a mobile device and has many communication methods, the only time I've ever used USB is to upload new firmware. USB 2.0 will be fine. No point adding spec just for the sake of it.
8mp camera a joke ? why would that be ? higher pixel count means NOTHING to image quality nowadays. Its all about the sensor size and quality.
Ref the battery remember that the quad core cpu is 20% more efficient, from what i can gather its the mean reason for using it over dual core.
Why do you want USB 3 ? its a mobile device and has many communication methods, the only time I've ever used USB is to upload new firmware. USB 2.0 will be fine. No point adding spec just for the sake of it.
yeah not sure why 8mp is a joke. anything higher is a joke.
its not the cores that are important as far as battery life is concerned, its more to do with it being 32nm.
usb 3 would be great though. its supposed to be in phones at some point this year, but i thought i had read it would be in the fall. it won't be full usb 3.0 speeds either, but its a lot faster than usb 2.
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S-beam is a combination of the two features, it's not exactly wifi direct or Android beam, but both combined to make it more useful. Hopefully well still be able to access android beam and wifi direct. If not, that will suck!
I want a 64GB version which is apparently not coming out until later.
So if they're combined it will use NFC for smaller files and Wifi for larger?
Yeah I'd want that 64GB as well. Hopefully they make the Note 2 with that option.
Anyone else surprised/disappointed that there is no dedicated multi-task button (like on the Nexus) to take full advantage of ICS? Hold down home instead... thought the separate button that was a nice differentiated feature from the iPhone.
Anyone else surprised/disappointed that there is no dedicated multi-task button (like on the Nexus) to take full advantage of ICS? Hold down home instead... thought the separate button that was a nice differentiated feature from the iPhone.
I like the home button functionality on the SGS3, personally.
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many of our differences in opinion are that you will actually be coming from a gs2 and the international gs3 does have some improvements over that. in my case, coming from a Galaxy Note to a GS3 just wouldn't make sense (my opinion of course) and overall..yes, I think it is a mild upgrade, hardly worth spending $$ for if on contract already, and a waste of an upgrade if eligible for one.
But what you seem to be forgetting is that those GSII, Note owners are still well within 2 years contract in US mostly. What about OG Galaxy S owners and others coming out of contract? This would be huge upgrade for them.
I'm not sure what exactly defines big upgrade at this point. 2Ghz A15 processor, 2Gb RAM, 1080p screen? We knew that's not happening anytime soon and 1080p on phone screen is pointless. US versions not getting Exynos at all is not set in stone officially yet. Even if it comes all with Krait S4 processor, it's way faster more efficient than any US GSII from last year.
But what you seem to be forgetting is that those GSII, Note owners are still well within 2 years contract in US mostly. What about OG Galaxy S owners and others coming out of contract? This would be huge upgrade for them.
I'm not sure what exactly defines big upgrade at this point. 2Ghz A15 processor, 2Gb RAM, 1080p screen? We knew that's not happening anytime soon and 1080p on phone screen is pointless. US versions not getting Exynos at all is not set in stone officially yet. Even if it comes all with Krait S4 processor, it's way faster more efficient than any US GSII from last year.
yeah i see a lot of galaxy s1 owners around the internet claiming it wasn't a big enough jump to be worth the upgrade. don't know what phone they're looking at, but this is a massive jump for s1 owners
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It uses NFC to connect the phones (so you just hold the phones back to back) and then WiFi to send the files.
Ooooo I like that. Only problem is not every phone will be using that same software. I would think they would use Android Beam across the board.
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But what you seem to be forgetting is that those GSII, Note owners are still well within 2 years contract in US mostly. What about OG Galaxy S owners and others coming out of contract? This would be huge upgrade for them.
Yeah they must use that logic when they do new phones. This is a huge bump for GS1 folks for sure.
yeah i see a lot of galaxy s1 owners around the internet claiming it wasn't a big enough jump to be worth the upgrade. don't know what phone they're looking at, but this is a massive jump for s1 owners
Yes, I'm one of those S1 owners, I absolutely cant WAIT to get into a new phone!
MY GS1 is ok, but it's often slow, laggy, buggy, the GPS has never worked correctly, I'm dying for more screen real estate and some power and speed! It ought to be wonderful.
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But what you seem to be forgetting is that those GSII, Note owners are still well within 2 years contract in US mostly. What about OG Galaxy S owners and others coming out of contract? This would be huge upgrade for them.
I'm not sure what exactly defines big upgrade at this point. 2Ghz A15 processor, 2Gb RAM, 1080p screen? We knew that's not happening anytime soon and 1080p on phone screen is pointless. US versions not getting Exynos at all is not set in stone officially yet. Even if it comes all with Krait S4 processor, it's way faster more efficient than any US GSII from last year.
The processor is set in stone to be a dual core snspdragon. There is a reason I know that and you do not.
Those gs1 owners (god bless them for holding on to a phone so long) are exactly who i refer to as the market in my posts.
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The processor is set in stone to be a dual core snspdragon. There is a reason I know that and you do not.
Those gs1 owners (god bless them for holding on to a phone so long) are exactly who i refer to as the market in my posts.
From what I've read the S4 snapdragon holds its own against quad core processors anyway, so there shouldn't be much of a problem? The exynos doesn't look to be light years ahead of Tegra 3 (which is what the S4 is comparable to). Yes it's a clear winner, but nothing massive to write home about.
The processor is set in stone to be a dual core snspdragon. There is a reason I know that and you do not.
Those gs1 owners (god bless them for holding on to a phone so long) are exactly who i refer to as the market in my posts.
OK. Even so, this new Snapdragon S4 is almost twice faster than sluggish S3 in phones like Skyrocket, Rezound from last year. It's only slightly behind quad Exynos at the same clock and most folks would be plenty happy with speed, battery and stable LTE.
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I'm getting a bit confused here with HTC sense and TouchWizz.
I currently have a Desire running gingerbread. Its non rooted, uses Sense launcher, basically other than various accounts and a backdrop its factory.
My upgrade is due now and I'm looking at the SG3, partly on the reputation of the SG2 but also because of the storage capabilities. I have a 32gb ipod touch that I hate with a passion, so I'd like to ditch it and replace with the phone. I have around 35gb of music so if I got a big card I can put it on the card and carry it in the phone. The alternative is the HOX and I just deal with swapping music around in the limited storage (not really ideal).
If you've listened to our Galaxy S III podcast, you know that I'm not crazy about the latest version of Touchwiz. As far as home screens and the launcher go, they're functional, but they're more of the same. But Samsung's camera app, and the S Voice and motion tweaks are pretty killer. We'll call that one a wash, perhaps, because a third-party launcher will cure some what Touchwiz ails. At the end of the day, though, it doesn't feel like you're using an Ice Cream Sandwich device like it does on One X.
The base style remains unmistakably TouchWiz, but there are some extra twists. Unlike stock ICS, there's now a settings option immediately available in the drop-down menu, and there are new gesture menu and sharing options, but the remaining look and layout is largely unchanged -- save for little details, like on-off switches, that have been tweaked for Samsung's own design reasons. Samsung's added in Google's own ICS widgets alongside its own versions if you're picky about exactly which calendar app displays on your home screen.
Also in the video its noted that there are some features that "bring it [the S3] closer to its cousin the galaxy nexus"
Which would make me think that its reasonably close to ICS but obviously with all the added Samsung extras. There is also a forum post here: What is with all the TouchWiz hate? | The Verge Forums (sorry for the x-post) where the author compares TW to a stock ROM (least as close as he can get), there doesn't appear to be huge differences.
The impression I've had until now is that TW used to smother android a bit but in more recent versions (especially for ICS) its been scaled back a little or should I say aligned with ICS.
I've had a very quick play with a HOX today and to be honest it doesn't feel radically different to my Desire - sure there are prettier widgets and all that good stuff but Sense doesn't appear to of changed very much, so does that mean it is covering up ICS pretty well ?
I'm guessing that people here will have some knowledge of TW on ICS and maybe have used Sense as well that could give their input ?
If TW is junk as some people claim maybe I'm better going for the HOX ?
ETA: Sorry this is so long I also had a quick play with a SG2 running TW on ICS, so it looks a bit different to Sense but it seemed to do the same basic things and I found my way around it easily enough. I guess it has its own little quirks and features but it wasn't as different as I had expected..
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OK. Even so, this new Snapdragon S4 is almost twice faster than sluggish S3 in phones like Skyrocket, Rezound from last year. It's only slightly behind quad Exynos at the same clock and most folks would be plenty happy with speed, battery and stable LTE.
Only complaint here is the screen, by no means its a bad screen but it did not quite give me the wow factor as the S2 did. Was really digging for that 4.7 inch, high resolution, AMOLED plus screen. In all honesty probably they needed to make a trade-off in production costs, but I would have prefered a smaller screen with truely amazing image quality in that case.
Processor, RAM, Battery no complains there though. I also like the touch wiz on first sight.
Htc one x and the S3 are both great phones, probably going for the most cheapest of the both.
That worries me a bit, he part about the chip. Is the S4 the same metal and die size? If not will the dual core US version be a battery hog while the Euro sips?
My first thought was the S3 looks horrendous, washed out colours, not sharp, flare from lighting... but on second look its better at some pictures - the roses in the hallway and the apples are sharper than the HOX and less saturated. The image looking down a road with cars parked either side the HOX white balance is off (cold) and slightly underexposed.
Some shots show camera shake and/or loss of focus. Both of these could be user error (My HTC Desire can be a little awkward sometimes).
Note there is no EXIF data on any of these images, someone removed it.
Its also odd that Samsung let someone wander off with an unreleased phone that from what I read is still on pre-production software. I looked on a map and found the outside locations are up to a mile from Earls Court, but all reviews etc that I've seen no-one got allowed to be out of the building with the phone.
In the outside pictures there are no cars or people, which would indicate early morning ? I wouldn't expect that area of London to be that quiet in daylight hours.
The HOX uses the same sensor as the SG2, I don't know about the lens, but at any rate the S3 having a worse lens than the S2 or HOX doesn't really make sense.
What do we think guys ? I posted here because until I actually see some confirmation I'm treating this as rumour.
My first thought was the S3 looks horrendous, washed out colours, not sharp, flare from lighting... but on second look its better at some pictures - the roses in the hallway and the apples are sharper than the HOX and less saturated. The image looking down a road with cars parked either side the HOX white balance is off (cold) and slightly underexposed.
Some shots show camera shake and/or loss of focus. Both of these could be user error (My HTC Desire can be a little awkward sometimes).
Note there is no EXIF data on any of these images, someone removed it.
Its also odd that Samsung let someone wander off with an unreleased phone that from what I read is still on pre-production software. I looked on a map and found the outside locations are up to a mile from Earls Court, but all reviews etc that I've seen no-one got allowed to be out of the building with the phone.
In the outside pictures there are no cars or people, which would indicate early morning ? I wouldn't expect that area of London to be that quiet in daylight hours.
The HOX uses the same sensor as the SG2, I don't know about the lens, but at any rate the S3 having a worse lens than the S2 or HOX doesn't really make sense.
What do we think guys ? I posted here because until I actually see some confirmation I'm treating this as rumour.
That worries me a bit, he part about the chip. Is the S4 the same metal and die size? If not will the dual core US version be a battery hog while the Euro sips?
I appreciate that but not a guaranteed accurate comparison. They are not using the Exynos quad in the EU version of the HOX. It may be similar or the same end results but I do not see how we would know they compare.
It looks like he had the flash on for the SGS3 and not the HOX.
Anyone else feel the same way? Maybe I'm wrong.
Could be any number of things, since all EXIF got removed we can't tell, which is one of the reasons I'm suspicious. We don't even know they are from an S3...
I appreciate that but not a guaranteed accurate comparison. They are not using the Exynos quad in the EU version of the HOX. It may be similar or the same end results but I do not see how we would know they compare.
i posted it to prove it wouldn't be a battery hog like you suggested. the s4 one x was in 2nd place in nearly every test.
Tegra2 and Exynos had some issue with LTE radios last year, but still Samsung managed to make LTE tab 10.1 with tegra2. So that doesn't mean they will have the same issue with LTE this year going forward. I heard Samsung said last year that their next versions of Exynos will fully support LTE radios. They also reconfirmed it unofficially recently.
Given how big deal LTE is even in Asia, I think these big guys are well aware how important it is to make sure their chips are LTE compatible, and it will be silly to make processors working with only 3G these days.
As for SGSIII on verizon, I feel your concern as they are using CDMA. So it remains to be seen if new Exynos can also support verizon CDMA/LTE network. They might go with Krait S4 for verizon, but that's still giant leap from S3 snapdragon of last year.
Regardless, a VZW version is likely waaaaaaay down the road.
Regardless, a VZW version is likely waaaaaaay down the road.
Maybe so if they try to do Exynos/LTE combo on Verizon version. But if it's S4 Krait (which seems more likely now), I don't think it will take too long.
BTW, isn't verizon also getting Razr HD? I wonder what kind of processor/radio it might have. There was leak that indicates S4 krait but I don't think it's confirmed. And verizon doesn't seem to be getting One X anytime soon.
Any guesses on the price this will be? I'm due for an upgrade in July and I'm debating between getting the Sony Xperia Ion SGSIII and the Skyrocket, which one?
Any guesses on the price this will be? I'm due for an upgrade in July and I'm debating between getting the Sony Xperia Ion SGSIII and the Skyrocket, which one?
i would take the skyrocket off of your list and leave it between the s3, ion and one x. but it'll be the usual $199 on contract, $550+ off contract
HTC One X is ugly in my taste. SGS3 surprised me a lot in a positive meaning. I have I9000 now so changing into SGS 3 will be a big upgrade for me. Im waiting for it. Hey guys, did you see Han Solo somewhere here last time? BTW hello after a long time again. ;]
Does anyone know if the US model will have the physical home button or is it too early to tell? I like the button but like the s2 the US model didn't use it. Kinda of hoping that they don't do that again.
Does anyone know if the US model will have the physical home button or is it too early to tell? I like the button but like the s2 the US model didn't use it. Kinda of hoping that they don't do that again.
All of the U.S. models will have 4 capacitve keys. I'll be buying the UK version. I love having a home button.
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I also had a quick play with a SG2 running TW on ICS, so it looks a bit different to Sense but it seemed to do the same basic things and I found my way around it easily enough. I guess it has its own little quirks and features but it wasn't as different as I had expected..
