Verizon Pre-order, Release date, and speculation thread
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I've somewhat hijacked this thread to be the general Verizon Pre-order thread to keep all pre-order and device speculation information in one thread. Thanks for your understanding
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No one knows for sure at this point. But I don't think it has anything to do with Gnex on verizon as it won't be released until Q3 anyway. They will need next samsung flagship phone by that time.
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Verizon passed on the SGII to opt for the GN. As Sandroidfan said, this phone is still MONTHS away from release, and probably a month or two past that till a CDMA version would be released. I'm hoping it comes to Big Red cause it's the 2012 phone I'm waiting on.
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Verizon passed on the SGII to opt for the GN. As Sandroidfan said, this phone is still MONTHS away from release, and probably a month or two past that till a CDMA version would be released. I'm hoping it comes to Big Red cause it's the 2012 phone I'm waiting on.
While I have my grain of salt handy....perhaps it is quite as far off as thought.
Yeah, I've heard ALL the release dates. I have a Google News alerts about the SGIII sent to my phone. There are at least 5 articles a day about the SGIII, and the dates keep changing. Today, an article mentioned a big marketing tie in with the Olympics in London. Those are July 27th thru Aug 12th. But yes, the biggest rumor right now is March announce, April launch.
The possible killer is the chip they use. The rumors have changed on what chip, but they will be using a Quad Core chip and so the bigger issue is whether it will be CDMA and 4G/LTE capable. THAT is the bigger initial issue. For example, at this time, a Tegra 3 quad core chip - the most famous and used quad core - cannot be used with VZW as it cannot yet do LTE.
Then, once they get past that and we find out if the Quad Core they use - as it seems they are going to use their own Exynos version (5 or 4412?) - can even be used on VZW, we have VZW then watering it down and butchering it up so that IF it does come, by the time it comes, it will be some weakened, bloated, bastardized version of what we fell in love with.
I suspect, this will not come to VZW. Sadly.
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4 cores isn't the reason why it doesn't support lte
Yes this is correct. What they are saying, is that the fact it is quad core isn't why it doesn't work with LTE.
It is a new processor/chip and LTE hasn't been incorporated with it to work. Being quad core or dual core isn't why it doesn't work with the LTE is what people were trying to say.
Yes this is correct. What they are saying, is that the fact it is quad core isn't why it doesn't work with LTE.
It is a new processor/chip and LTE hasn't been incorporated with it to work. Being quad core or dual core isn't why it doesn't work with the LTE is what people were trying to say
Until this thread took a turn into minutia land the simple point is that - for whatever reason you want to explain away as - no quad core is "currently" going to work on vzw. This phone was spec'd as a quad core ... as is its not going to fly as LTE is not working in quad cores ... yet
Until they change the chipset, water it down, and make it not be a SGS3
Until this thread took a turn into minutia land the simple point is that - for whatever reason you want to explain away as - no quad core is "currently" going to work on vzw. This phone was spec'd as a quad core ... as is its not going to fly as LTE is not working in quad cores ... yet
Until they change the chipset, water it down, and make it not be a SGS3
Seems pretty crystal clear but nope
This is correct. Even the HTC One series is slated to have dual-core processors on their US versions. So Samsung will probably have to do the same. Highly doubtful their new in-house processor(which IS quad-core and DOES work with lte) makes it into this phone.
This is correct. Even the HTC One series is slated to have dual-core processors on their US versions. So Samsung will probably have to do the same. Highly doubtful their new in-house processor(which IS quad-core and DOES work with lte) makes it into this phone.
Does anyone know a simply short answer why U.S. LTE tech wont work with the quad-core?
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I dont know how my longer my Droid X can hold out. I was hoping this would be coming out soon
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My Droid X has a "wet" spot on the glass and has a few other issues. I am waiting for this phone or the Verizon version of the Galaxy Note.
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Yep, same here. It just randomly restarts even with the latest updates.
I know how y'all feel. In the past month my DX has:
1) Headpiece stopped working (rain!). Rice fixed it thou.
2) Crashed. Factory reset got her going again.
3) My 2yo factory battery is finally seeing it's age (maybe 15 hrs vs 19 hrs per day).
Every day I wake up and ask her to just keep going a little while longer. The DX is still a great phone, but I don't want it to die and I have to "settle" on the current offerings.
This is correct. Even the HTC One series is slated to have dual-core processors on their US versions. So Samsung will probably have to do the same. Highly doubtful their new in-house processor(which IS quad-core and DOES work with lte) makes it into this phone.
why not?
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Does anyone know a simply short answer why U.S. LTE tech wont work with the quad-core?
Marrying quad core with LTE is not technically impossible just because it didn't happen yet. I think what matters more is the architecture of processor, not just number of cores here. Dual cortex A15 chips like exynos 5250 would be more difficult to make it work with LTE than quad cortex A9 chips like tegra3, exynos 4412.
I am sure quad core/LTE is coming this year at least by late Q3. Nvidia, Qualcomm, Samsung are all working on it. Last year some doubted dual core/LTE in phone as Motorola pushed back Bionic over and over.
Just because it's so new and the phone itself is already about to start production. I doubt the can rush the chip into the phone.
That quad core chip is the minimum we should expect in this phone. I'm really hoping the can somehow up it to the 5250 dual core chipset... Those a15 cores would blow everything else totally out of the water right now.
Just because it's so new and the phone itself is already about to start production. I doubt the can rush the chip into the phone.
But that's what you are assuming. We don't know exactly since when they have been developing new Exynos. Certainly they didn't start developing it just a few months ago. It should be last Fall at least or even further back.
Actually, it isn't an assumption at all. It's less than an assumption; it's a guess. Sheesh, what do you guys want? This IS a rumor thread. Is my guess/assumption worth any less than your hope? 'Cause that's all anyone who is pushing for the 5000 series quad core has, unless you guys know something I don't.
And it's so new also isn't an assumption, unless you can name a phone that has that chip in it. Not in any phone yet=new, at least to me.
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Actually, it isn't an assumption at all. It's less than an assumption; it's a guess. Sheesh, what do you guys want? This IS a rumor thread. Is my guess/assumption worth any less than your hope?
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Haha well I'll settle for w/e they put in it as long as its lte compatible. They can't put anything worse performing than the s4 in it. Can they??? No... thats just crazy talk......
Actually, it isn't an assumption at all. It's less than an assumption; it's a guess. Sheesh, what do you guys want? This IS a rumor thread. Is my guess/assumption worth any less than your hope? 'Cause that's all anyone who is pushing for the 5000 series quad core has, unless you guys know something I don't.
And it's so new also isn't an assumption, unless you can name a phone that has that chip in it. Not in any phone yet=new, at least to me.
just don't know why the new chip that's been rumored to be in this phone for months, wouldn't be in the phone because its too new. too new for what? i'm confused. lol
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just don't know why the new chip that's been rumored to be in this phone for months, wouldn't be in the phone because its too new. too new for what? i'm confused. lol
Yeah I'm with you on this one. Isn't this exactly the kind of thing Samsung developed this chip for? Just because Tegra 3 (overrated) doesn't support LTE, that doesn't mean Samsung can't release their own product with quad core LTE support 6 months later. This phone is launching with an Exynos quad core processor and LTE, BEFORE independence day, of that I have little doubt
Yeah I'm with you on this one. Isn't this exactly the kind of thing Samsung developed this chip for? Just because Tegra 3 (overrated) doesn't support LTE, that doesn't mean Samsung can't release their own product with quad core LTE support 6 months later. This phone is launching with an Exynos quad core processor and LTE, BEFORE independence day, of that I have little doubt
Its not so much the question of lauching with a quadcore processor because I believe it will. The question is whether the phone is coming to verizon with a quad-core. If it does not then whats the advantage of it over the nexus?
Its not so much the question of lauching with a quadcore processor because I believe it will. The question is whether the phone is coming to verizon with a quad-core. If it does not then whats the advantage of it over the nexus?
We are too hung up on quad core thing I think. It's not necessarily quad core >> dual core. Dual core A15 processor will be better than quad core A9 processor.
So more important question is when or if will new Exynos (quad A9 or dual A15) work with LTE radio. That's what Samsung has been working on from last year. I think verizon will get version of SIII by Q4. If not new Exynos/LTE one, they will get maybe Krait S4/LTE version. Krait S4 with integrated LTE is much more powerful and efficient than OMAP 4460 in nexus.
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We are too hung up on quad core thing I think. It's not necessarily quad core >> dual core. Dual core A15 processor will be better than dual core A9 processor.
So more important question is when or if will new Exynos (quad A9 or dual A15) work with LTE radio. That's what Samsung has been working on from last year. I think verizon will get version of SIII by Q4. If not new Exynos/LTE one, they will get maybe Krait S4/LTE version. Krait S4 with integrated LTE is much more powerful and efficient than OMAP 4460 in nexus.
I had a misleading typo, which I just corrected.
Sorry if you are not familiar with those names of chips. The point is no quad core is not necessarily bad thing performance wise.
sanddroid you seem to be very logical. Am I going to be missing anything ground shattering by upgrading to the nexus in the next couple weeks as opposed to waiting for the s3. The lte speeds arnt going to be any faster correct? The nexus I believe I can root now and be able to run android tether if need be.
sanddroid you seem to be very logical. Am I going to be missing anything ground shattering by upgrading to the nexus in the next couple weeks as opposed to waiting for the s3. The lte speeds arnt going to be any faster correct? The nexus I believe I can root now and be able to run android tether if need be.
lte speeds will be the same. s3 will undoubtedly be faster and get better battery life though. and every phone is able to be rooted (as far as i'm aware), so thats not something to be worried about
if you can't wait. buy the nexus now and sell it when the s3 releases and buy it for the off contract price.
sanddroid you seem to be very logical. Am I going to be missing anything ground shattering by upgrading to the nexus in the next couple weeks as opposed to waiting for the s3. The lte speeds arnt going to be any faster correct? The nexus I believe I can root now and be able to run android tether if need be.
xtop already answered your question well. My answer would be the same. Galaxy Nexus is still very decent phone with the latest stock ICS from Google. But I'm expecting to see next level of CPU/GPU performance in GSIII and also a little better battery life, camera. Other than those things, Nexus won't miss anything big.
We are too hung up on quad core thing I think. It's not necessarily quad core >> dual core. Dual core A15 processor will be better than quad core A9 processor.
So more important question is when or if will new Exynos (quad A9 or dual A15) work with LTE radio. That's what Samsung has been working on from last year. I think verizon will get version of SIII by Q4. If not new Exynos/LTE one, they will get maybe Krait S4/LTE version. Krait S4 with integrated LTE is much more powerful and efficient than OMAP 4460 in nexus.
I agree with you on this. I much rather have dual A15s than quad A9s. And while I'm a Sprint guy, I'm assuming Sprint will get an identical configuration to Verizon (in regards to processor and just name the phone something goofy). And I'm hoping that's the Exynos chipset. Qualcomm makes some good processors, but the Exynos looks so much better.
I don't think Verizon will get the SGS3 on day 1 no matter what. I think (if they do end up getting the phone) they'll get a late-coming, mildly altered version that is catered to the VZW network. Just like what happened with the original Galaxy S and the Galaxy Nexus. Plus, I think the iPhone 5 will have a similar issue.
When Samsung announced the Galaxy Nexus, there had to be another model made specifically for Verizon that was a little thicker, that debuted like weeks later, and that was able to work on LTE radio. And I think the same kinda thing will happen again here OR they'll opt out completely and have the iPhone 5 as their sole flagship phone of late 2012.
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I don't think Verizon will get the SGS3 on day 1 no matter what. I think (if they do end up getting the phone) they'll get a late-coming, mildly altered version that is catered to the VZW network. Just like what happened with the original Galaxy S and the Galaxy Nexus. Plus, I think the iPhone 5 will have a similar issue.
When Samsung announced the Galaxy Nexus, there had to be another model made specifically for Verizon that was a little thicker, that debuted like weeks later, and that was able to work on LTE radio. And I think the same kinda thing will happen again here OR they'll opt out completely and have the iPhone 5 as their sole flagship phone of late 2012.
This is mine line of thinking. Although I do not think the the Iphone 5 will be the only premier phone for Verizon. Samsung is way to big a vendor for Verizon to pass up on the S3. Its not really a question of if Verizon will get the S3 its more of a question of what model and what specs it has. We all now how many different variations of the S2 there are. I am really thinking that if this phone is released before august it will be dual-core LTE not a quad. I think the first quad-core LTE you going to see maybe the iPhone 5. I could be wrong but it just seems to playing out this way.
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I don't think Verizon will get the SGS3 on day 1 no matter what. I think (if they do end up getting the phone) they'll get a late-coming, mildly altered version that is catered to the VZW network. Just like what happened with the original Galaxy S and the Galaxy Nexus. Plus, I think the iPhone 5 will have a similar issue.
When Samsung announced the Galaxy Nexus, there had to be another model made specifically for Verizon that was a little thicker, that debuted like weeks later, and that was able to work on LTE radio. And I think the same kinda thing will happen again here OR they'll opt out completely and have the iPhone 5 as their sole flagship phone of late 2012.
It had to be thicker because of the CDMA radio in it. And the GN was/is a joke of a phone in terms of hardware (camera, radios used, etc) and quality materials (100% cheap az plastic) and the only reason it sold was ICS out of the box - and where is it now? Still waiting for updates.
Anyway, I do agree that IF it comes, not likely, VZW will F*** it up and bastardize it so much, it won't be what I believe is coming and hooked on.
Now, the only newer rumored somewhat possible maybe kind of good news is that it is rumored to maybe have an Exynos 4412 quad-core chipset on board, which is also rumored to work with LTE (i.e., Verizon) unlike other quad-core processors.
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