It does look like it's a problem with the 4.0.4 modems. The gs2 has just received the update and someone has reported the high cell standby reading after flashing the modem from the firmware.
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The cell phone standby usage reporting issue has nothing to do with the battery draining fast problem. For a possible solution, you guys should see Mike's post.
Signed! My SG3 is in the mail as we speak. I had the same problem on my Droid 3 until Moto finally fixed it. It mad worlds of difference. Hopefully sammy does the same!
Samsung haven't released a fix yet. 4.0.4 is the android version. My Galaxy has always been on that. But the latest Samsung version XXBLBF has not fixed it, no.
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I'm also having the same issue "Cell standby" % is the highest. GS3 on T-mobile
My phone was 100% @ 11p.m. and the screen was off the entire night. I woke up at 8a.m and my battery was 89%. During that time, I used my phone to check email, send 5 text, listened to spotify for 2hrs, and checked Facebook. Also, I'm using Wifi the entire time. By 2:30pm my battery is at 34%. Is this correct? I barely using my phone and I'm consuming 66% of my battery life.
Please let me know if there's an issue with my battery or is this all software. I do not want to spend time troubleshooting a phone that I paid for alot of $$$. This is only my 4th day and I have time to replace it.
Yes, I competely drained my battery and fully charged it a few times.
At home i'm using Wifi, and Wifi-calling is enable. With that being said, should my "Time without signal 80%", is this correct?
Thanks for the post, but just want to clarify something. My cell standby is showing over 60%, but does that affect battery usuage? Is 8 hours on battery with 70% battery left with minimal usage normal? I charged the phone before I went to bed, and woke up at 88%...I have nothing sync and wifi and data packet is off...I feel like my battery is draining pretty quick.
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My battery life has been awful with my gs3. Only getting half a days life out of the battery. Last few days out had a full 8hours charge and was only used for a few messages and 15min of spotify on my commute in to work. The rest if the day it laid at rest until 1:30 pm when it signaled low battery! Battery menu showed that 65% was used by standby ! Only 20% was used by the screen.
My gs3 also takes a very looking time to charge it seems. Yesterday, after plugging it in at work at 1:30 by 5 it was only at about 60%. And I left it completely alone while charging. Essentially it took 3.5 hours to get a 50% charge? Does that seem right to anyone else ? I came from a BB torch that could take a full charge in a little over 2 hours! So maybe I'm a little bit spoiled but as I'm not a previous android user I'm not sure what to expect.
My battery life has been awful with my gs3. Only getting half a days life out of the battery. Last few days out had a full 8hours charge and was only used for a few messages and 15min of spotify on my commute in to work. The rest if the day it laid at rest until 1:30 pm when it signaled low battery! Battery menu showed that 65% was used by standby ! Only 20% was used by the screen.
@jroy I've noticed the same slow to charge on my Verizon GS3. I don't think it's a problem but more an inconvenience. This battery is pretty hefty. I'm curious if the RAZRMAXX also takes long to charge.
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After 13hrs I'm seeing the ridiculous calc of Cell Standby usage @24%, but to my surprise the SPEEDTEST app which I ran sometime in the first hour and since then left on in the background , was mad milking my battery usage in the #1 spot @33%! SPEEDTEST users beware.
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So this sticky is for a petition just to correct a display miscalculation? Why not just ignore it? I guess it would be good to know if the cell standby really were high but you can't tell because the display is way off... I'm sure it's easily corrected but I don't know that they'd see this as high-pri enough to drop a standalone update for it. Maybe I'm wrong...
It's important to be able to rationalise usage. If you can't accurately rationalise what is using it, you cannot easily troubleshoot other battery issues. It is important.
People just need to realize your battery isn't actually being drained! Currently I'm at 1hr 10m screen time, 12m talk, and 75+ texts in and still have 72% battery after 11 hours of use.
Thats right. Its not being drained. Just mis-reporting what is using the battery.
Someone made it sound like this was just for International versions of the phone.
I have the AT&T version and after 8hrs of sitting on my desk, it has used 18% of battery, 70% of which is cell standby. Does that sound correct? (I haven't hardly used it today though, so perhaps it truly is the cell standby which is why I'm confused)
my Verizon Galaxy S3 suffers from the "Cell standby". Although like SUroot said mines just reports wrong, it does not seem to affect my battery life. Does anyone know if Samsung is aware of this issue?
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You guys realize that if they release the fix in an OTA update, taking it might cause anyone who has root access to lose it. They may include it in with other update code. Just saying.
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Went to bed with 100% at 3am. Just woke up at 8am with my phone being at 83% and 55% of the drop is because of cell stand by? Seriously WTF...Fix this nonsense Samsung. Always something with their phones, always!
I've installed a ROM that has the miscalculation fix and I've noticed that the system has been saying that random apps have been eating the battery like cell standby. Like yesterday, even though I did not use it, it said my Gallery had used 40% of my battery. There might be something else buried deep into this cell standby issue that a simple adjustment of the calculation can't exactly fix. I'll be interesting if Samsung does anything about it, and what they do about it.
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You guys realize that if they release the fix in an OTA update, taking it might cause anyone who has root access to lose it. They may include it in with other update code. Just saying.
People who root (generally) understand this and there are tools to get the updates to their phones and preserve root.
For example, I've rooted my Sprint SGS3 before the first update happened. I now have updated my phone twice. I didn't take the OTA, I've just flashed the files provided by the dev community to stay up to date, but preserve root access.
I've installed a ROM that has the miscalculation fix and I've noticed that the system has been saying that random apps have been eating the battery like cell standby. Like yesterday, even though I did not use it, it said my Gallery had used 40% of my battery. There might be something else buried deep into this cell standby issue that a simple adjustment of the calculation can't exactly fix. I'll be interesting if Samsung does anything about it, and what they do about it.
I don't think they'll do anything about it, but I must try
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Yeah, I agree with you. However, I don't think it's a Samsung thing. My Evo 3D would do it, too, occasionally. Something might be buggy in Android's power reporting code. We'll see what happens when Jelly Bean hits the S3 (either official or a solid port and not the SDK builds).
Good thing I read this. I was wondering how the cell standby can take more power than the screen.
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I think someone shud create one for the extSdCard issue too.
wasn't having too much of an issue before. cracked my screen (under warranty), sent it in, just receive yesterday. went to bed with 98% battery. woke up 7 hrs later with 26% battery ? 75% usage for standby ? phone also very warm. only sync'd account was gmail.
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wasn't having too much of an issue before. cracked my screen (under warranty), sent it in, just receive yesterday. went to bed with 98% battery. woke up 7 hrs later with 26% battery ? 75% usage for standby ? phone also very warm. only sync'd account was gmail.
I wish people would explain why they believe the cell standby has no effect on the battery. My device was fine until yesterday and now I have the cell standby issue and it gets warm and drains in a few hours. If the battery wasn't actually draining then why does it get so warm? It charges much slower now also as a result of the battery drainage. I already tried the "fix" and it maybe slowed down the drainage, maybe... I can't tell yet. If it did, it didn't fix it. Still don't get the 2 days or more that I used to get out of the battery. I have the international version. I have tried different roms as well and resets....no change. The cell drainage could possibly be a separate issue but something is draining everyone's batteries.
I wish people would explain why they believe the cell standby has no effect on the battery.
It's explained all the way through this thread.
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My device was fine until yesterday and now I have the cell standby issue and it gets warm and drains in a few hours.
No, you ALWAYS had the cell standby issue.
There is a file. In this file, it says (paraphrasing):
"Cell standby uses 34mA"
So the Battery stats page in android says:
"I've used 50mA of battery"
"...of that 50mA, 34mA is Cell Standby"
"...therefore, 68% of my battery is Cell standby"
"...therefore, 32% of my battery is everything else"
However EVERY other android phone, including the SGS2, cell standby is 3mA. This 34mA is wrong. A typo.
What should happen if this was correct:
"I've used 50mA of battery"
"...of that 50mA, 3mA is Cell Standby"
"...therefore, 6% of my battery is Cell standby".
"...therefore, 94% of my battery is everything else"
See, that 50mA used doesn't change. Its just how that 50mA has been used (the breakdown of it) is incorrect.
Its like 5 people eats a jar of sweets.
There are 50 sweets.
All the sweets are now gone.
Regardless of who ate those sweets it doesn't affect that there were only 50 sweets and they're now all gone.
Sure "person A" ate 50 sweets, but then said "Actually person B ate 15", we don't think Person A is as greedy as we originally thought. All the sweets are still gone though.
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The cell drainage could possibly be a separate issue but something is draining everyone's batteries.
It is a separate issue. Yes the cell uses battery. Of course it does. Can it drain the battery? Sure but that is not what this issue is. This is a reporting issuer.
Everyones battery drains. Its not possible for any battery device to use 0% battery.
As for unusual drainage, my device is not suffering.
If you have an issue whereby the battery depletes fast and the device is getting warm, and you are sure you can run it on a factory reset (without reinstalling any apps) for 24 hours and the issue persists, you have a hardware fault. report it to your carrier.
I wish people would explain why they believe the cell standby has no effect on the battery. My device was fine until yesterday and now I have the cell standby issue and it gets warm and drains in a few hours. If the battery wasn't actually draining then why does it get so warm? It charges much slower now also as a result of the battery drainage. I already tried the "fix" and it maybe slowed down the drainage, maybe... I can't tell yet. If it did, it didn't fix it. Still don't get the 2 days or more that I used to get out of the battery. I have the international version. I have tried different roms as well and resets....no change. The cell drainage could possibly be a separate issue but something is draining everyone's batteries.
There are two entirely different issues. One is the way that the phone is reporting the Cell Standby. This report is way off on phones that are absolutely fine, as well as phones that are faulty in some ways.
This petition is all about getting Samsung to issue a fix for these bad statistics, and in that way make it a lot easier for anyone with your very real problem to work out what is actually draining the battery.
If it is a hardware or software issue, the faulty report may very well mask the real issue. Whether it really is Cell Standby or something else entirely, the abnormal baseline numbers reported will make it a lot harder to work out a solution.
If you didn't have weird Cell Standby numbers reported beforehand, and they just started at the same time your battery started to drain this badly, the solution is obviously tied in with the change in numbers. Then this petition is not about your problem.
My cell standby is currently at 71% of battery drain. I understand that this is some reporting error, so guessing I have 2 problems.
Im an international user in Australia - 3G only.
My phone chews 10-20% battery every hour, I have to recharge overnight then keep it on charge all business day. Despite this normally have under 30% when I leave the office. Phone does get warm occasionely.
Would appreciate some help fixing! I'm certainly not a developer, so would need step by step instructions before being confident enough to attempt my own fix.
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Switching over from my faithful Defy and thought I'd checks stats on it... which of course show standby highest (but 28% to 24% for display). So... after reading this thread... this is basically psychological? I mean... nothing 'real' is happening, right? What am I missing?
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Brand new GS3 that I exchanged the old one for last night. Just woke up to a 35% battery and a whopping 63% of standby time? Seriously...WTF? Went to sleep at about 3am eastern time with a fully charged 100% battery with absolutely nothing running in the background. I will absolutely not deal with this BS. Giving it till the end of this weekend for the phones battery to adjust to some charging cycles. If it doesn't I'm going back to the iPhone 4s and really just writing Samsung off!
Yes I'm pissed, yes I'm tired of this, yes I've been a very faithful Android and Samsung user. But 2 phones in under 3 weeks that have this battery drain cell standby issue is enough to make a very happy GS3 owner call it quits. SAMSUNG, FIX YOUR FRIGGIN RADIOS ALREADY!
Switching over from my faithful Defy and thought I'd checks stats on it... which of course show standby highest (but 28% to 24% for display). So... after reading this thread... this is basically psychological? I mean... nothing 'real' is happening, right? What am I missing?
Re-read SURoot's excellent post above.....you will be enlightened
Brand new GS3 that I exchanged the old one for last night. Just woke up to a 35% battery and a whopping 63% of standby time? Seriously...WTF? Went to sleep at about 3am eastern time with a fully charged 100% battery with absolutely nothing running in the background. I will absolutely not deal with this BS. Giving it till the end of this weekend for the phones battery to adjust to some charging cycles. If it doesn't I'm going back to the iPhone 4s and really just writing Samsung off!
Yes I'm pissed, yes I'm tired of this, yes I've been a very faithful Android and Samsung user. But 2 phones in under 3 weeks that have this battery drain cell standby issue is enough to make a very happy GS3 owner call it quits. SAMSUNG, FIX YOUR FRIGGIN RADIOS ALREADY!
Sounds like you have something else going on....probably a sync that is hanging. On my old Captivate every once and awhile the Calendar would get into an endless loop sync (Hotmail Microsoft ActiveSync server) where it would just be syncing forever.......that would drain my battery fast. Knock on wood with ICS and the Hotmail app it has just been doing once daily syncs which is what I really wanted.
Maybe you should do a reset of the phone and then turn OFF all your syncs and then just let the phone sit with cell data on and see what the battery looks like. If it is still draining even in that situation then you must have a hardware problem.
Don't write off "SAMSUNG" because there are tens of millions of these phones already out there. If what you are experiencing was a true design flaw you'd be hearing lots more about it.
Re-read several times. Confirmed: tempest in a teapot.
Well actually, at first we were not sure either way what the issue was. It turned out to be reporting. This issue has completely removed using android built in reporting for battery usage debugging.
Its a REALLY simple thing for them to fix. I've even told them how to fix it.
I have just joined this forum as I came across this thread.
My S3 loses 40+% of its battery overnight without any use, which is ridiculous.
I contacted Samsung about the issue, and thought after finding this thread I would post up their response for others to see. I received this message from Samsung on 3rd August and I am still having the issue so no fix yet.
Get a grip Samsung and sort it out!
''Dear John,
Thank you for contacting Samsung and I have pleasure in providing the following assistance.
We are sorry about the issue you are experiencing with your Samsung Galaxy S III handset.
We are aware of this issue that is affecting some handsets within the UK. We are currently developing a fix for this issue and we will be rolling it out via a firmware update in due course.
We apologise for any inconvenience that this may have caused.
If you require any further assistance, please contact Samsung again and we will be more than happy to help.
Kind regards,
Online Support Team
SAMSUNG Customer Support Centre ''
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The issue you reported is not the same as this though. This issue doesn't cause any battery to be lost overnight. It just shows that a bigger proportion of the % of battery used is (incorrectly) taken up by cell standby.
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