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Old June 27th, 2012, 01:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So after watching the i/o I was very impressed with jelly bean. I was planning on switching from my iPhone to a S3 but now a nexus phone seems appealing. How long do you guys speculate until the S3 gets jelly bean? Also, I am rather new to android so does anyone know if the new nexus phones will be offered subsidized from ATT?
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Old June 27th, 2012, 01:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My guess would be 2 to 3 months w/ this phone being on all 4 major carriers the heat will be on to get it out ASAP.
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Yeah the S3 is Samsung's flagship esign - I am sure it will be 3 months tops, but I can't say for sure considering the S2 just got ICS
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Yeah I want the S3 but I am hoping the update to Jelly Bean doesnt take too long.

Any word on if a subsidized ATT nexus phone will ever be released? Im looking for that stock experience with limited amount of rooting and hacking.
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The S3 with Jelly Bean will wipe the floor of every other phone right now. Wonder how long it will take to get the upgrade. Oh, I forgot, I'm on Verizon. Guess I'm screwed.
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Jelly Bean is incremental update more like Froyo to Gingerbread. GB to ICS is much bigger update, so a lot of phones are still stuck with GB. I guess GSIII will get JB sometime in the Fall.

If you want JB that badly, GSM Galaxy Nexus is the only phone to get now. But its hardware is now outdated relative to GSIII and no one knows when the next nexus phone will come.
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The S3 with Jelly Bean will wipe the floor of every other phone right now. Wonder how long it will take to get the upgrade. Oh, I forgot, I'm on Verizon. Guess I'm screwed.
I was just gonna say..we are at the mercy of Verizon...(if you decide to not root)
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According to Gizmodo, "It will be available in mid-July, with an over the air update for Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Xoom, and Galaxy S." I'm assuming by Galaxy S they mean S3.
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At&t history for updating. Usually 5-8 months after the new OS release.
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According to Gizmodo, "It will be available in mid-July, with an over the air update for Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Xoom, and Galaxy S." I'm assuming by Galaxy S they mean S3.
Nah, galaxy nexus, nexus s and Motorola xoom.
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I'm not holding my breath for Sammy and VZW to get their act together...that's why I'll root mine once I get it and hope AOKP or Cyanogen get out a Jellybean release quickly.
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Samsung better not strip out the Google voice search features in favour of S voice...Googles offering looks so much better!
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Google Now revamps search integration in Android 4.1 Jelly Bean -- Engadget

Pro: Looks like very impressive stuff here.

Pro AND Con: Looks like google will now be able to post ads and market to the masses even better than before. Big brother (Google in this case) is watching you even closer than before.

Frankly I think it's awesome what they are doing now. Context and location aware.

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Galaxy S III variants got last-minute RAM upgrade 'to be future-proof' for Jelly Bean | The Verge

Glad samsung was looking into the future and not going to abandon the phone like some other carriers cough moto cough
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Sorry I am new, but what is jelly bean? And what will it do for a phone?
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Sorry I am new, but what is jelly bean? And what will it do for a phone?
All the new features in Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
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officially i would say a few months. Unofficially I would say less than a month.
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I bet on October time, just before new iphone 5 is likely to be released. The operators and Samsung took their time with ics and the s2 and can't honestly say the s3 will be different
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I'm pretty stoked about it! Come on, JB ROMs!
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I am liking it. Only a matter of time before the devs have it on all the sgs3 variants so I can flash it once I get my vzw sgs3. Hopefully this will be a little faster to get updated since google gave manufacturers early access to it.
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all im wishing for is a feature to be able to use camera from the lock screen without having to enter PIN.
PLEASE!
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At least it kinda works on the S3.

Got Android 4.1 Jelly Bean booted on the Galaxy S3 - xda-developers
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Given Big Reds less than stellar reputation for bringing updates to the table, I'd say it's gonna be an easy 6 months or more before they bless the S3 with some JB goodness...
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Wont we be able to use a custom ROM after we root that uses JB?
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Wont we be able to use a custom ROM after we root that uses JB?
yes we will have custom roms way before official updates
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Im sure the galaxy s3 is getting jelly bean, has anybody heard anything about this yet?
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Im sure the galaxy s3 is getting jelly bean, has anybody heard anything about this yet?
Already a thread my friend.

http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/572505-s3-jelly-bean.html
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I've merged all of the Jelly Bean related topics into one. Sorry for any confusion.
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So what does everyone think - will Samsung strip out Googles voice search feature?
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Right at the end of that article:
"(let's not forget that the nearly two-year-old Nexus S is already signed up for an update)."



The 2GB of RAM is not needed for JB
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My Motorola Droid X got quite a few updates, including a surprise one just a few months ago. Started on Eclair, then got Froyo and Gingerbread, think it got at least 5 OTA updates over 2 years.
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all im wishing for is a feature to be able to use camera from the lock screen without having to enter PIN.
PLEASE!
IIRC this can already be done. Place finger on the screen and turn phone to landsape and it should launch the camera.
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My Motorola Droid X got quite a few updates, including a surprise one just a few months ago. Started on Eclair, then got Froyo and Gingerbread, think it got at least 5 OTA updates over 2 years.
Luckily you didn't have Moto's red headed step child in theX2. They just plain out screwed us over. Supposed to ship with GB, it doesn't. Then less than a year after release we are told no ICS, only crappy "bug fixes" are in your future. What happened to the eighteen month upgrade promise Moto? That was my last Moto phone. Never again will I deal with their bs. Samsung free the world.
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So what does everyone think - will Samsung strip out Googles voice search feature?
That would be incredibly bone-headed on Samsung's part. Probably they will integrate it with their S-Voice. Or at least I hope they will. Like somebody said this is just more than a theme and with Touchwiz being one of the more heavily reworked OEM versions of Android, it's gonna take awhile. Ideally, they should have it ready and shipped with Jelly Bean around Sept/Oct to combat the iPhone 5 and other high-end JB handsets.

Google blows for releasing updates. For the average consumer with android phones, they should treat the OS like the processor- it's static and fixed and not gonna change. And if one day you find that your dual-core is now a quad-core processor, you should be as excited and surprised as if you get a notification saying you have a major OS update. Which is totally the wrong way to do things for the consumer. But great for android phone sales.
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IIRC this can already be done. Place finger on the screen and turn phone to landsape and it should launch the camera.
This works if you use unprotected swipe to open. But if you add security such as a pattern, PIN or password it doesn't - you have to enter security swipe etc.

Shame it doesn't work like the iPhone where you can still get quick access to camera even if PIN protected. When you quit camera iPhone takes you back to lock screen!
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Right at the end of that article:
"(let's not forget that the nearly two-year-old Nexus S is already signed up for an update)."



The 2GB of RAM is not needed for JB
Nexus doesnt have tw though....
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I think Google timed this in part to stunt the thunder of the SG3. Now that Google owns Motorola, they do not want an OEM getting too big for their pants. Looks at all the talk now, "Eeeew, the SG3 has the ancient ICS, eeeeeewww!".

Nope, Google be playin' chess here and just popped their knight out on Samsung. The supply issues of making 28nm chips and now Jelly Bean and the Nexus 7 (and it's evil intentions lack of micro sd) are all part of a big game of strategy.

Apple applauds Google, since this only helps Apple. Sure, Google is also looking at iOS 6 coming out, but the media already had a standard of ICS they were comparing in a favorable light.

Added: Now that I see the trend of Nexus devices not having SD cards and low storage space (for obvious reasons), I think Google's Nexus products are balls.

BTW, ICS on the Razr ROCKS, so expect even better on the SG3. I do not like jelly beans as candy and can wait on the OS.
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I do not care about JB in the least. I just got the best phone on the market IMO, the S3, and its fine the way it is.
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What's new in Android 'Jelly Bean'

In this article they list the nexus as getting and even mention the s3, but no mention of us getting jellybean.
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Well, we're certainly not going to get it before it comes out. But seriously, with the large number of carriers each inflicting their own particular form of misery on us, the only real answer is <shakes Magic 8 Ball>Reply hazy, try again.

Unless, of course, you're open to custom ROMs, then the answer is most certainly yes.
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I think Google timed this in part to stunt the thunder of the SG3. Now that Google owns Motorola, they do not want an OEM getting too big for their pants. Looks at all the talk now, "Eeeew, the SG3 has the ancient ICS, eeeeeewww!".

Nope, Google be playin' chess here and just popped their knight out on Samsung. The supply issues of making 28nm chips and now Jelly Bean and the Nexus 7 (and it's evil intentions lack of micro sd) are all part of a big game of strategy.

Apple applauds Google, since this only helps Apple. Sure, Google is also looking at iOS 6 coming out, but the media already had a standard of ICS they were comparing in a favorable light.

Added: Now that I see the trend of Nexus devices not having SD cards and low storage space (for obvious reasons), I think Google's Nexus products are balls.

BTW, ICS on the Razr ROCKS, so expect even better on the SG3. I do not like jelly beans as candy and can wait on the OS.
No.

Google benefits from every Android handset sale that has Google apps, which the S3 happens to be one of. Why would they try to stunt sales?

Other than the fact that Google io usually runs in May there's nothing out of the ordinary.
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Android 4.1 Jelly Bean Walkthrough on Nexus 7 [VIDEO]

Like they say a picture or in this case a video is worth a 1000 Jelly Beans. Great videos by Rob Jackson here at Phandroid. ENJOY!!!

http://phandroid.com/2012/06/28/galaxy-nexus-android-4-1-jellybean-update-video/
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International Galaxy S III Gets Jelly Bean, the List Keeps Growing! – xda-developers
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Default Galaxy S3 Jelly Bean update will bring google now?

Hey everyone!

I'm new to Android, actually I'm not even new yet... I'm still using my iPhone.
But, my next handset will be the Galaxy S3.

Anyway, I've tried looking around and couldn't find an answer.
I understood that the GS3 will receive the new Jelly Bean update, and one of the major features for me, is the google now voice search.

Will the GS3 still use the S-Voice? What will be the main search voice?
Is it possible that Samsung will not implement the google now feature at all?

As I said I'm new to the Android universe, so I don't really know if this is something anyone knows yet.

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Old July 15th, 2012, 01:49 PM   #45 (permalink)
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The rumors are Samsung will drop S-Voice for the new majel voice search. Even if they don't, there are non root ways to substitute voice search in place of s-voice.

I am too waiting for googles new voice search. From the demo's, clearly revolutionary and makes Siri look like a useless child's plaything by comparison.
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The rumors are Samsung will drop S-Voice for the new majel voice search. Even if they don't, there are non root ways to substitute voice search in place of s-voice.
Thanks for the reply.
That's good to know, but will it work natively, and look and feel the same as on the nexus?

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Yeah, it will work the same way it works on the Nexus. That's a Google features and they won't modify anything. The question is whether they will favour S Voice or not. I guess they won't, Google made something way better.
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i have already deleted s voice is just as bad as siri

this is the future google now>stephen hawking>s voice >siri
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The bigger issue in all this when will Samsung push out an update. If you're buying this phone with the expectation of Jelly Bean and will not root to get it, you'll be waiting a little while.
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I do not care about JB in the least. I just got the best phone on the market IMO, the S3, and its fine the way it is.
Amen. I'll be happy if/when Jelly Bean makes its way to the S3, but if it never does, I'm okay with that, too.

These types of threads are where Android gets this unjust tarnished image in regards to updates. If JB were never mentioned, people would still be gushing over ICS and truly enjoying their fine piece of hardware. Mention that Google is working on a new OS, though? All of a sudden everyone lots of people start bitching and moaning about their carrier, how long you have to wait for updates, whether or not their phone will be supported, blah blah blah.

It is almost as though they'd be better off not working on that sort of development. Every time they show signs of progressing, people get all sorts of pissed that they aren't on the leading edge any longer. Guess what? That's how technology works.

Give me a device that works really well day 1 and maintain it so that it continues to function as well on the 700th day as it does on the 1st day. If the powers that be see fit to add some increased functionality and new features? Icing on the cake.
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