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Old October 17th, 2012, 09:40 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Yeah, but is not as efficient as when you charge it turned off (in terms of complete battery charge).

Anyway. I like it off at night and I will keep it that way and use other alarm instead of keep it on all night.
Where do you get that idea from?

The internet is a haven for misinformation.

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Are you sure? Blackberry devices turn on when you set the alarm, and I would be shocked if BB has this feature but Android doesn't.
I came from Blackberry, and yes Blackberry does turn itself back on at the alarm time. Blackberry also had universal phone search, Android doesn't.
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I came from Blackberry, and yes Blackberry does turn itself back on at the alarm time. Blackberry also had universal phone search, Android doesn't.
Android does have it, but its hampered by apple lawsuits
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Set up an alarm on your PC. Turn it off. Will it work?
Actually, it will so long as its plugged in; the BIOS will wake the PC at the alarm time. You can use CMOS Setup to wake the PC or use Windows' Task Scheduler.

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I came from Blackberry, and yes Blackberry does turn itself back on at the alarm time. Blackberry also had universal phone search, Android doesn't.
Technically no because blackberry devices don't actually turn off. They have on, standby, no battery. Those are the only states.

Thats why it only takes s few seconds to "turn on" yet several minutes if you remove the battery
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Where do you get that idea from?
From the phone. It says that when I charge it turned on (not with those words, but something like: continuous use when charging may prevent efficient charging.

And also, turn it on and off sometimes is good for the ram and every night is a good moment.


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All it is saying (heh, I had to explain this to my wife since she like to leave the screen on at significant brightness, even if she's not using it) is that the phone won't charge as quickly since your using it drains it simultaneously.

Unless you have renegade/buggy apps, there's no need for nightly reboots (it won't hurt anything either though).

RAM is not something you want cleared; unused RAM is wasted RAM. Not unlike Windows, Android keeps apps in memory that you use for better responsiveness.
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Alarms on Android:

I loved my Motorola Droid X. But I rarely used the alarms. When I did, it worked fine, but I had most notifications set to not make noise anyway. When I set the phone to Vibrate (Silent) mode, the alarms vibrated. Unfortunately, at the ripe old age of 2-months-before-eligible-for-upgrade, my Droid X died.

Now, I have a Samsung Galaxy S3. And I have a need to have several alarms set to go off during the day. On this phone, you can set it to Silent Mode, you can set it to Vibrate, you can set it however you want, but the alarms still sound.

"Why would anyone want this to work this way? It must be a bug.", thought I. Then, in searching for a way to turn them off, I found the answer: It's for people who use the phone as an alarm clock, and turn off all the other sounds. Well, that solved one problem for me: I can turn off SOME of the %$#@! notifications that wake me up at night with the Silent setting. (And they only seem to come at night. "Hit OK to do the OTA update." Hey, if I were awake, I wouldn't need the piercing whistle. If I'm asleep, I don't want to wake up to hit an "OK" button! Just send this out during the day! -But I digress.)

What the heck? How do I turn the alarms to vibrate if I don't want them going off in the middle of a meeting? Apparently, you can set a zillion alarms, but they are only to be used to wake up with.

A little more research, and I *thought* I had found the solution. Audio Manager. You can set profiles! "Silent", "Vibrate", "Night Time"... whatever you want. Each profile sets the sound level for media, phone, alarm, and what-have-you separately. And you can schedule them to turn on automatically! I set my alarms to vibrate during my weekly meeting.

It. Didn't. Work. The developer said, "Yes, the Galaxy S3 Alarms use their own separate sound stream, so it doesn't matter how you set the Alarm sound stream." So... the stock Alarm app doesn't use the stock Alarm sound settings provided by the OS? (ICS)

So, I uninstalled AudioManager. Twice. And now my phone randomly puts itself on Silent mode (not at times I ever scheduled when AudioManager WAS installed) and the alarms don't sound any more. Ever. And phone calls ring, or not, randomly; regardless of whether the phone itself thinks it's set to Silent mode.

CAN ANYONE OFFER ANY HELP WITH THIS ONE? Is there something I can do to get regular function back on my phone? Some cache I can clear? (Rebooting hasn't helped.)

To some previous poster: For "universal phone search" on Android, download PowerSearch from the "Google Play Store". (Stupid name. I don't know about you, but I *use* my phone, I don't play with it.)

To another previous poster who is considering whether to keep or return their new Samsung Galaxy S3: Here are some problems you may want to look out for:
1) USB connection problems. (Takes me about 20 unplug/replug cycles to transfer 10 songs.)
2) Unlike older phones, no FM receiver.
3) Auto-dim happens randomly in steady light.
4) Setting to not use data on "foreign carrier" towers is ignored.
5) Setting to not blink LED when there are new/missed messages (of any kind, incl. email and text) is ignored.
6) "Silent Mode" doesn't shut off sound from alarms or some notifications. (See above)
7) "Driving Mode" doesn't turn on speaker phone on phone calls.
8) Phone does not detect whether output-only cable or output-plus-microphone cable is plugged into speaker (headset) jack. If you put in an AUX cable to your car stereo, the microphone will be disabled, as it apparently assumes you've plugged in the headset provided with the phone, which has a microphone. So you cannot listen to music or incoming phone calls on your car speakers and still talk to anyone on a phone call - or use voice controls for the phone.
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The BB never shuts off unless you take the battery out, it does go into a low energy mode and on a BB you can also put the phone is "Bedside Mode" which is the equivalent to the Android "airplane Mode" and then an alarm will ring on either a BB or Android.
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Never realised this as i always have my phone on and on charge at night but do find it strange that phones as good as these cant turn on when an alarm is set.
If you turn the phone off over night and turn it back on the time is still correct so if it can remember the time it should surely remember to turn on at set time.
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Never realised this as i always have my phone on and on charge at night but do find it strange that phones as good as these cant turn on when an alarm is set.
If you turn the phone off over night and turn it back on the time is still correct so if it can remember the time it should surely remember to turn on at set time.
The phone's time is reset every time it is turned on from your provider. It does not remember the time when off.
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You can always put the phone in airplane mode and then the alarm will still ring but you will not get any phone calls or email or be able to do anything that requires internet access
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...on a side note, people actually turn off their smartphones?

Sorry, I couldn't help it; just kidding
Ha Ha It's like some of my neighbors..... they shut off the power to their house when they go to bed. JK :-)
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Motorola A810, and the older Motorola E680i both have "Alarm powered off" option. Set alarm time, check "Alarm powered off", power off, and when alarm time comes phone will power on by itself and sound the alarm. When snooze or dismiss is chosen, phone will power off again. Not available in Samsung Galaxy Pocket (Android Gingerbread). Maybe a Motorola with Android has an "Alarm powered off" function?
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This is a huge issue for me.

I found this to be an awesome feature with the Blackberries I had been using over the past 5 years.

Phones with terrible battery life , like the Galaxy S3 and the now NExus4 which i have just bought (which is one amazing phone btw) should all come standard with this feature.

Countless times i have been places over night and forgot a charger and want to conserve battery for the next day, but still need to set an alarm to wake me up. And the blackberry saved my life every time with that simple feature.

Quite shocked that the new nexus device doesn't have this feature. Still love the phone, but I just don't understand why this isn't done with android devices, yet blackberry does.


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With blackberries, when you shut them down they aren't actually shut down.

With android, when you tell it to power off it does exactly that.

If you want to shut off all radios to conserve battery but still have it on to set off an alarm simply put it in airplane mode instead of powering it down.
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Turning off sync services also works very well to save power, this can be done from the notification bar too allowing you to to still receive phone calls and texts.
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No that is a really bad feature to have and I would never want that feature I'll explain that in a minute, but when the phone is off its off no function is done by it.

Imagine you go to an important meeting/occasion where you want your phone to be silent but you forgot to turn off alarm so you quickly turn off your phone, if your phone goes off won't that be embarassing and stupid?

Secondly even if it does go off, it will drain battery because your phone is obviously functioning. Anyone agree?
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This is not a feature!
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WoW!! this is a funny thread
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I can say with absolute certainty that if I do not set the alarm, it will not go off. What is up with that?
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The phone's time is reset every time it is turned on from your provider. It does not remember the time when off.
It does remember the time. Just like a pc would with a cmos battery. Not all providers set time, which can be tested.

In fact, I can see the correct time in custom recovery after the power has been removed and where there is no radio running.
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It does remember the time. Just like a pc would with a cmos battery. Not all providers set time, which can be tested.

In fact, I can see the correct time in custom recovery after the power has been removed and where there is no radio running.
When you are in recovery the phone is not off, the OS is not booted, though.
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When you are in recovery the phone is not off, the OS is not booted, though.
Sorry, you miss my point. I'm not talking about alarms or the possibility of a "wake on event" scenario for a powered off device.

All I'm saying here is if I remove the battery and boot into recovery directly after, the time is still right. The device can keep time without android running.
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Here's another test. Remove your battery. Remove your sim card. Replace your battery. Leave the sim out. The time will be correct when android boots.

My TV can turn on at a specific time as an alarm. Some pc's BIOS can do the same. My old Nokia and SE dumb phones could turn on to sound an alarm.

All these devices remember the time when off, so long as there is a power source (ac, battery, cmos - for a while).

Its definitely possible to have this feature on a phone (as I said - several of my phones have had it) however it is indeed a ridiculous feature. Having this feature has annoyed me in the past.
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Try this:

Set up an alarm on your PC. Turn it off. Will it work?

Of course it will not.

The same is true for Android.

Done

I had macros set up on my computer that would automatically turn it on for me every morning at a certain time (excluding weekends by choice), and to automatically switch it off for me at a certain time (this one I disabled because I ended up working overtime more often than expected and didn't like dealing with it). Point being, yes. Yes my computer will turn itself on after being completely turned off (or as turned off as any other computer - "off off", "deep hibernation", whatever a computer does when you shut it down).

For me, it's a matter of personal preference. I like my phone to be turned off at night. For me, there is a noticeable difference in the way my phone operates when it is constantly on. I have left my phone on and switched it to airplane mode. I have switched it to silent. I still notice a difference in the way it operates after a few days of not being switched off. It lags. Apps crash. It goes a little wonky. It doesn't seem like it would be much of a change to at least make this an option.
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set alarm
set am/pm
set auto on / no auto on
easy.
or it could be in settings/preferences so it's a more permanent decision without having to set that preference each time you switch on an alarm. either way, seems like an easy addition. I'm not an engineer, however; so it's possible I'm wrong. I would just like to hear from someone that actually built the system the phone is using to tell me why it's not possible, if that is truly the case. I'm a curious sort and would like to understand the reasoning behind it regardless of whether or not it is possible.
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Gosh, I came across this thread looking for exactly this very thing.. having the alarm go on when my Android device is off. It worked perfectly years ago on my super old Nokia whatever-it-was (and define "off" as you prefer ).

Point is, as it was said, even with PCs you can set them to boot at a specific time and do what you prefer, so why couldn't an almighty Android (which I love) device do as much?

I don't understand why so many of you guys keep saying it's stupid/useless to switch off the device by night; whatever you do, this is a personal thing, not an answer to the original question..

Now waiting for some good-hearted guy to write such an app, maybe there is a little workaround to this situation.
The thing you need, is your device being booted before the alarm has to go off, right? There are apps which do exactly this. They (re)boot the device at times that you can set. Using one of these and setting the boot-up, say, 5-10 minutes before the alarm should do the trick.
Certainly you have now to deal with 2 apps for just setting a stupid alarm, but I'm positive at some point an app which combines these two things will be ready. Plus, if you wake up always between say 7-9am, you could anyway set the boot up at 6:50am and forget about it. The alarm will work also if the device prompts for PIN code (well, it does on my Samsung Galaxy Nexus).
I saw PowerBoot should be a right candidate, but it requires root access to the device, which I don't have yet. Anyway I don't see why this shouldn't work.
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I think you've either misunderstood what the OP wants or what these apps do. PowerBoot lets you schedule a reboot - phone is on, pre-set time arrives, phone reboots. That would be fine for someone who just wants to reboot regularly - it won't be a clean shutdown, but if it's in the middle of the night and the phone isn't updating anything you'll probably be ok.

What you can't do is set the app to reboot at say 06:50, turn the phone off, and expect the phone to turn on at that time. It won't work for exactly the same reason the alarm can't do this - the phone is powered down, the app is not running, so it can't boot the phone. You need to build that sort of thing in at a much lower level (ie hardware that will remain active while the rest of the board is powered down), and can't just add it in with an app.

This isn't theory - I installed the app just now and tested it. The phone did not switch itself back on.
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Thanks Hadron for the update, I could not try it before since I'm still not rooted.
Anyway, from the app description, it looks like you can set the bot up at will:
"PowerBoot is a streamlined application that lets you control when your Android smartphone or tablet boots. Through its on-screen interface you can boot your device with scheduling control over the date, hour and minute of the boot."
A bit misleading I'd say, but of course I trust your try on this.

On your second point. Well, I'm not a hardware expert, but I think every OS can in principle (even if definitely not in "friendly-mode") be set to boot at a specific time. You can with Linux for example (and I guess also with iOS,Win), so why not with Android.
The point is, even when you shut the device off, the internal clock is still ticking otherwise time would be wrong at next boot up.
You "simply" have to add something like "when clocks ticks this time -> do X". You might be not able to set X as exactly whatever you want, but I'd expect that at least boot up could be an option?

It's probably difficult from the coding point of view, but why shouldn't it be doable?
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It's a subtlety of wording - when I read the description it said it could schedule reboots, which isn't quite the same as scheduling a boot.

The problem is that if the board is really shut down there's no OS running at all, so no apps. A clock being updated doesn't help unless there is some other processing unit active that's monitoring the clock and capable of activating the system when some value is reached. If you have that designed into the board then you can set the time from the OS, but android hardware doesn't have that (or if it has there's no API, which would be really dumb). Or you hibernate rather than really shut down, but that's not what shutdown does on android. Without one or the other you are stuck.

I get why people would like this. There are times when I could use it myself. But the best bet for getting it would be to put it to Google or one of the manufacturers to get it designed in.
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Ok now I see your point, thanks for explaining. Too bad, it'd have been a simple workaround. It really seems it's not possible to switch these things off anymore..

Yes, some kind of hibernation could be a cool option, actually. Maybe it is realizable on newer OS official versions or ROMs, with no hardware change needed.
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Ok now I see your point, thanks for explaining. Too bad, it'd have been a simple workaround. It really seems it's not possible to switch these things off anymore..

Yes, some kind of hibernation could be a cool option, actually. Maybe it is realizable on newer OS official versions or ROMs, with no hardware change needed.
Motorola has a hibernation option and that does not help as it can only be woken up manually.

Why do you need your phone off? Why not install something like alarm droid and make it take the phone out of flight mode when it goes off?
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I remember when my LG Flip phone was able to be turned off and then would power back on for the alarm. It would be nice to have that feature on the SG3.
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Disagree. Off phones should be off. Having an alarm turn on a phone goes against why most people turn off their phone.... so alarms don't go off.

Axe man breaks into your House. Murders your pet dog. You hide, call the police and power off your phone to avoid detection.

The axe man, about ready to give up is suddenly stirred by the beeping of an alarm eminating from a closet where there's a vulnerable soon-to-be victim. It's not exactly PR dream is it?

If you want an alarm, power your phone on. If you don't want an alarm, power your phone off. We can't have little Timmy laying butchered in a wardrobe because someone wants it both ways.
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The new BB10 phones don't turn on for alarms either. iPhones don't, so unless Windows phones do there is no longer any smartphone that does this.

Before long it will just be a memory...
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...all because of little Timmy no doubt
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The replies are true. No Android or Iphone phones have the active alarm when the phone is off. I know Blackberry's and Nokia phones do this.

I just put my phone in airplane mode when I sleep. That way the alarm still goes off and it doesn't drain the battery as much.
iPhone does turn itself on and does alarm! Same as all Nokia phones, and I'm sure some simple Samsung phones does it.
Seems it's androids platform weak point..
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Here we go again.
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Here we go again.
And again,and again,and again...........

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I have a P5 Allview (Android 4.0.4) and I have this function.
Alarm is working when my phone is OFF.
I don't care what off means in this case (really Off or deep standby), but it works. For me it looks like is turned OFF.
I can see that aprox. 10-15 seconds before alarm comes up, the phone is kind of coming alive (display is powered, but black). Then the dialog box of the alarm is displayed giving me these options: "Snooze", "Dismiss & Power ON", "Dismiss & Power OFF". If I press "Snooze", the phone will go OFF rightaway.
To turn ON the phone, I have to long press the power button as usual.
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Here we go again.
I just saw this thread rise to the top again today & thought "LOL OMG WTF?

Talk about zombie threads...
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I just wanted to let you know guys that this function is available. At least for my phone.
I got my phone 6 months ago and I'm still impressed with it. Check the specs and you will be impressed too. Now the price is less that 250 $. It's a dual sim, it has Gorilla Glass (which is a big plus), and the alarm sounds even when the phone is turned off .
It's a Allview P5.
I'm not working for them, I'm just happy that I bought a great phone for much less than other similar phones.
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I used to have an Alcatel 991D with android 2.3 and the alarm worked when the phone was off. Now I have a Samsung Galaxy S DUOS with android 4.0.4 and the alarm doesn't work when the phone is turned off.
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I can't believe I read this whole thread. I knew it was a year old...but I just had to read it anyway. I want my 10 minutes back
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The new BB10 phones don't turn on for alarms either. iPhones don't, so unless Windows phones do there is no longer any smartphone that does this.

Before long it will just be a memory...
The Windows 8 Nokia 620 will turn itself on via the alarm.
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I have a Ace 2 i so wished i knew these phones alarms didn't work when the phone is off,I allways and i mean allways leave my phone on durning the night,But i thought its a new phone ill see how much battery it will save by turning it off at night,Not a good idea woke up 20 minutes late,As i allways use my phone as a alarm because i know when that goes off im not going to chuck that across the room lol
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I have a Ace 2 i so wished i knew these phones alarms didn't work when the phone is off,I allways and i mean allways leave my phone on durning the night,But i thought its a new phone ill see how much battery it will save by turning it off at night,Not a good idea woke up 20 minutes late,As i allways use my phone as a alarm because i know when that goes off im not going to chuck that across the room lol
My Droid X, powered on screen off (push power or home to immediately use) was unreliable in emitting sounds thru the speaker, so I used to use an old palm 755 for alarm duty. My S3 is more often than not on a charger, so the 755 is retired again (no sound issues with the S3, that I've found). rick
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FYI, XOLO Q800 Android 4.1 has this feature called schedule power off/on.
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