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Old July 18th, 2012, 09:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I assumed that based on other reports and reviews the pictures would be great, but so far, pictures look awful to me. The Razr was a lot better.

They focus and look sharp on the display, right after taking the picture, but the results are dim and blurry. I even set the camera down to avoid movement, but same result.

I have tried stock settings and tweaked, but same results. Blurry pics. Why would they look sharp on the display, but the actual pic blurry and dim?

Update: I do not have the issues using Camera FX.
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what quality are you saving the pic in?
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At first the default 3264X2448 and then tried others. Still blurry pics. My Incredible and Droid 3 took much better pics than this. Heck, my G1 took better pictures than this. Really. Something must be wrong I guess.

They look awful printed out as well.

Added: Also on my monitor compared to other pics. Complete lack of sharpness. Looks like the focus is off, but when taken, the image looks sharp.

Even tried different focus options. Looks like this one is going back, but will wait until Best Buy gets the blue 32gb in.
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I noticed this as well but never bothered to comment on it. For the most part it seems hit and miss. Sometimes id actually be impressed with the quality of a picture. Other times it was so bad i immediately deleted it. Perhaps i'm the one to blame?
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The few I have taken tend to be blurry, bad focus on them. Some do well of course. Think this is a software issue to be honest.
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It does not make sense though, since you would think users and reviewers would have picked up on this.

The camera performance for me is awful and I am more tolerant on picture quality. Bad device batches, perhaps? This stands out far too much to be a quality control miss for the device in general.

Added: Must be bad batches, since too many reviews from credible sources like Anandtech saying pictures look good. The blurry pics stand out and do not by any plausible stretch look good
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It does not make sense though, since you would think users and reviewers would have picked up on this.

The camera performance for me is awful and I am more tolerant on picture quality. Bad device batches, perhaps? This stands out far too much to be a quality control miss for the device in general.

Added: Must be bad batches, since too many reviews from credible sources like Anandtech saying pictures look good. The blurry pics stand out and do not by any plausible stretch look good

Dammm...this is something I was really worried about Rush, the whole quality control thing. My phone down right takes awesome pictures, even when compared to my friends EVO 4G LTE, it blows his phone out of the water. My pics are really clear and sharp.

Now the issue is I was going to do an exchange because of the phone getting fairly warm on to many occasions.

But upon reading a few here and there posts of some people having awesome cameras, and other people having phones that take grainy pics...Not good, sounds like a quality control issue, and maybe different sensors used in different batches of S3's.
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OP can you post an example ?
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Here is a sample. Notice the double vision around the letters. Like the other pictures, the image looked razer sharp when taken. Does not matter if resting the phone to avoid movement. Same results. Must be a defect, since the reviews would have seen this, without doubt. Ditto for folks here as well. No biggie, since will be getting the blue 32gb anyway, as soon as BB gets them in. They kindly left my preorder open.

Blurry, is a fair description.


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I had to delete the blurry example since took up too much forum attachement space with the new picture in the post below. The picture below is basically a non-blurry version of the one that was here. It looked bad, while the one below in spite of low light looks good.
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Here is a sample. Notice the double vision around the letters. Like the other pictures, the image looked razer sharp when taken. Does not matter if resting the phone to avoid movement. Same results. Must be a defect, since the reviews would have seen this, without doubt. Ditto for folks here as well. No biggie, since will be getting the blue 32gb anyway, as soon as BB gets them in. They kindly left my preorder open.

Blurry, is a fair description.

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I found that when I take pictures inside they come out a bit blurry, but I just took some gorgeous pictures outside of flowers and such just to test the camera.
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Perhaps it is software, since Camera FX has much better results. Unlike the stock camera app, pictures stay in focus: Resolution did not matter in regards to the blur with stock app.

Here is a sample for Camera FX:

GS3 sample using Camera FX 002.jpg
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If I follow either of the attachment links I get a "invalid link specified" error.

In any case, quick 101 on camera stuff:

A digital camera consists of three main components:
Lens
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The lens is a piece of glass that all light passes through. To control the amount of light that passes through the lens it has a disc that sits behind the glass that has a hole in it. The size of the hole can change, this is called the aperture.

The shutter sits behind the lens. You can think of this as a trap door that is normally shut but opens and then closes very quickly when a picture is taken. When open the shutter allows the light that flowed through the lens to hit the sensor.

The sensor sits behind the shutter. It is sensitive to light, so when the shutter opens it "sees" the light and from that it can form the image.

So, we can control how light or dark an image is in three ways:
We can make the aperture bigger, a bigger hole in the disc means more light gets in.
We can open the shutter for longer, the longer it is open, the more light we will have hitting the sensor.
Finally we could make the sensor more sensitive to light. This is known as the ISO setting.

Doing each of these things has disadvantages:
A wider aperture has an effect on depth of field (google it..). It can also cause pictures to become slightly out of focus because the optical part of the lens isn't very good when "wide open". Most lenses give their sharpest image in the middle of the aperture range.

A longer shutter time can cause blurry pictures, this is because the camera picks up movement from the person holding the camera, even if very slight.

Increasing the ISO setting will make pictures "noisy" or grainy, detracting from the overall appearance of the image.

So, back to your blurry pictures - it could be you are taking pictures in low light, the camera probably widens the aperture as far as it can go, increases the ISO setting as much as that can go.. but its still too dark so it can only increase the shutter time, it probably ends up too long and causes the camera to pick up shake.. causing the blur.

It kind of sucks, but I think phone camera technology is amazing for what it can handle, we have to remember it isn't meant to replace a DSLR or even a compact camera, phone cameras are just for snaps.
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You're having better luck with "Camera Effects" or "FxCamera"?

I want to try it out. I've had pretty good luck with my S3 camera but def had some grainy and blurry pics along the way.

I use voice control with burst mode and best shot on for a win every time so far.
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My S3 takes insanely good pictures. I came from a RAZR and prior to that an iphone4. RAZR was complete garbage. Mildly better with Camera FX.
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Perhaps it is software, since Camera FX has much better results. Unlike the stock camera app, pictures stay in focus: Resolution did not matter in regards to the blur with stock app.

Here is a sample for Camera FX:

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Weird. That's the kind of pix I get using the normal software. I'm very impressed with both the pix and the videos. My only issue with the videos is it's very tough to get smooth pans on these small cameras.

Not sure what's going on with yours, but it's obviously not a hardware issue if you can sharp pix in a different software program.

Do you get the blurry pix even outdoors in bright sunlight? That would tend to minimize the camera shake issue.
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Yes, meant Fxcamera. Fx does not have the blurry issue. Strange.

Not tried outside yet.
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IMO the problem is in the software for the autofocus. I noticed wiping the lens off even though it was not visibly dirty improved the quality of snapshots. And I Am comparing apples to apples, my last phone was the Samsung continuum and consistently took better pictures with out having to wipe the lens first.
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I'm having the same issue op, the screen looks super sharp when focused but once the picture snaps it has a slight grain to it when examined in detail.
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Keep in mind that pictures can look sharp on the comparatively small S3 screen, but in actuality not be sharp. Even as good as the screen is on the S3, it's really still much too small to see fine detail like small focusing errors, noise and grain.

Even on a DSLR, a picture in the small LCD can look sharp until you actually zoom in on small areas and then see the shot wasn't nearly as sharp as you originally thought.

With that said, if you take pictures in bright sunlight, there should be absolutely no grain.
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Confirmed today on a rainy/dark road trip. FX takes great low light pics and stock app for me takes poor low light pics.

In fact (for me) the camera using FX takes stunning pics- for a phone. Out in bright ambient light, the stock app seems okay, but FX covers all conditions for me.
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My S3 is taking great pictures....just used it to take photos of my Maxx for eBay. :-)
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I assumed that based on other reports and reviews the pictures would be great, but so far, pictures look awful to me. The Razr was a lot better.

They focus and look sharp on the display, right after taking the picture, but the results are dim and blurry. I even set the camera down to avoid movement, but same result.

I have tried stock settings and tweaked, but same results. Blurry pics. Why would they look sharp on the display, but the actual pic blurry and dim?

Update: I do not have the issues using Camera FX.
Not sure why you're having such trouble with the focus. Miner was a little blurry the first few days until I realized I had to tap three screen to tell it to focus. x-( . Since then I've turned on the auto focus and rarely have to tap out to focus
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I sometimes have this problem as well, but not consistently. I did turn on anti-shake recently and it seems to be better, I haven't seen it happen since, but my problem is intermittent enough that I am not sure it is gone.

Maybe that helps?
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I just bought Camera ZoomFX and took two photos of a stack of my sons blocks, one with the stock camera and the other with ZoomFX. Without touching any settings in Zoom FX the quality was noticably better even though I have no idea how autofocus worked (i did not select an area) the stock camera image that was directed to focus on the blocks was significantly worse with very soft edges.

So I think the three bucks is well spent, because I am not going to wait god knows how long for a Verizon update. The app looks like it is very useful in general. Incidentaly it is "App of the week" and is discounted from $5.
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For those of you whose camera has no problems, what settings are you using? Specifically:
-Is anti-shake on?
-What metering mode are you using? Center weighted, spot?

I think I may have one of the bad batches because a lot of my pictures are hit-or-miss, even in rather well-lit places.
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Here is a sample. Notice the double vision around the letters. Like the other pictures, the image looked razer sharp when taken. Does not matter if resting the phone to avoid movement. Same results. Must be a defect, since the reviews would have seen this, without doubt. Ditto for folks here as well. No biggie, since will be getting the blue 32gb anyway, as soon as BB gets them in. They kindly left my preorder open.

Blurry, is a fair description.


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Mine were coming out blurry when when there were backlit subjects until I realized the oily crap on the lense was ruining the pictures. Cleaning the lense fixed it for me. For some reason it never happened on my droid x but on the S3 I'm not used to swiping the lens with a section of cotton shirt before snapping.
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I realized my pictures were coming out dark in well lit areas which made them grainy . I activated the auto exposure setting and they're coming out a lot better now.
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I just got mine.... ATT if that matters and Im very unhappy with the picture quality... I came from the HOX. All of the reviews said the software wasn't great but the picture quality was about the same. My pictures are coming out worse than my inspire... Blurry, crappy light exposure, and horribly grainy. There has to be something going on... I'll try FX tomorrow but that should just be a work around as the software isnt made for burst or quick shooting.....
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Hi everyone, I'm quite new to android, and I am using the default camera program using ICS. I feel the photos taken online or videos on you tube seems to be of much better quality than what I can take it of. I am trying to see if I'm doing something wrong or if it is a setting I should be turning on or off. It's all confusing whether to use HDR, or anti-shake, or whether to use a flash etc.

I have a Canon PowerShot SD780IS that is taking 8MP camera, that is probably over 2 years old seems to be better quality than the 8mp on my phone. I was really hoping to replace this 8mp as an alternative than to lug around with the camera and the phone.

Hope someone can give me answers.

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Here is a pic i took yesterday on my international S3. All default settings, auto focus, no flash. Imo it looks awful especially when you zoom in, it's horribly grainy. Will try and replicate the picture this afternoon on my HTC Despite as I'm sure even that could do a better job.

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Hi everyone, I'm quite new to android, and I am using the default camera program using ICS. I feel the photos taken online or videos on you tube seems to be of much better quality than what I can take it of. I am trying to see if I'm doing something wrong or if it is a setting I should be turning on or off. It's all confusing whether to use HDR, or anti-shake, or whether to use a flash etc.

I have a Canon PowerShot SD780IS that is taking 8MP camera, that is probably over 2 years old seems to be better quality than the 8mp on my phone. I was really hoping to replace this 8mp as an alternative than to lug around with the camera and the phone.

Hope someone can give me answers.

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No phone will ever take pictures as well as a dedicated point and shoot camera, like the one you mentioned. Megapixels don't mean much at all. The lens, etc are more important.

As for pictures, if theres a lot of natural light turn down the ISO, and if there's not a lot of light, turn ISO up. That should help a bit. Also, make sure you are tapping on the screen to focus on what you're trying to take a picture of.

Finally, some galaxy s3s have different camera firmware to others. Check to see if there's a software update available for your phone, as Samsung has updated the camera firmware.

I think a guide will move this to the Galaxy S3 forum so you get more responses.
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One thing i have just noticed is that the file size for the photo in my previous post is only 1.3mb even though i chose 8 megapixel quality.

The photos on my rooted HTC desire are over double the size despite only being a 5 megapixel camera.

Are the photos somehow being compressed by the device? If so how do i stop it doing this and preserving the original size and quality?
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So some messing around this morning is starting to show some strange stuff... The examples I'm posting are taken a lower light (No lights on with hardly any sun through tinted windows).... I marked the examples as portrait and stock.

Portrait Mode:
Took a much better photo imho AND was a lot smaller file while keeping with the size

Stock Settings:
Took a much noisier photo AND was a LOT larger file...

Oddly enough though according to the captured settings they took the same exact picture with the same exact settings.....

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B28Il1GrRackZEhSQnFPVTBDVEE/edit

I'm going to do some more messing around but my biggest gripe is that once you close the camera app completely it loses the portrait setting and goes back to default.

The bigger problem if portrait does workout is it wont keep the setting once you close completely out of the app.
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I have been getting good photos out of my S3. Quit pleased actually considering how poor the Nexus' camera is & thought Samsung may not have fixed their camera.
Maybe try an app like Avairy to clean them up a bit.
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I have been getting good photos out of my S3. Quit pleased actually considering how poor the Nexus' camera is & thought Samsung may not have fixed their camera.
Maybe try an app like Avairy to clean them up a bit.
Honestly I think its a camera software problem or internal setting and I really don't want to modify every picture I take. I know this thing is capable of some beautiful pictures and given a lot of people aren't having this problem I'm leaning toward trying to fix the stock software instead of a work around.
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Oh and I'm on Camera version 1.5 if that helps?
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If you are using a case and get a blurry picture try removing the case and taking the picture again. I had a case on a Vivid that was causing the pictures to look blurry because it was blocking some of the lens. I changed the case to a different kind and all was good.
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I took this one outside today. It doesn't look blurry, but there was plenty of light.


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Honestly I think its a camera software problem or internal setting and I really don't want to modify every picture I take. I know this thing is capable of some beautiful pictures and given a lot of people aren't having this problem I'm leaning toward trying to fix the stock software instead of a work around.
Perhaps try a factory reset. I know it a hassle, but maybe it will reset the camera software. I know I had an initial bug with my last phone (HTC Incredible) & that fixed it.
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Perhaps try a factory reset. I know it a hassle, but maybe it will reset the camera software. I know I had an initial bug with my last phone (HTC Incredible) & that fixed it.
I've been toying with the idea but for now I just cleared the app data and trying to relearn the camera.. I have noticed after doing that and tapping the screen for focus I've been having better luck. It is taking a long time to focus IMHO though.... More testing to come.

Im not using a case but I can see where a bad case could affect picture taking.
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I took some pictures outdoors yesterday in the (surprisingly) sunny British weather. Results were much better than the indoor one i linked above.

Will try and upload the one from the petrol station, as the detail when zoomed in was great!

Will have to try and always use flash indoors to boost the light conditions. Is there a way (like on HTC one X) where it either automatically or manually controls the amount of flash, so you don't over expose the photos?
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For those of you whose camera has no problems, what settings are you using? Specifically:
-Is anti-shake on?
-What metering mode are you using? Center weighted, spot?

I think I may have one of the bad batches because a lot of my pictures are hit-or-miss, even in rather well-lit places.
I noticed a bizarre thing about anti-shake on mine. In video mode it produces a really bad stutter when panning. If I turn it off, my videos are much smoother.
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I'm on stock, and even with Anti-Shake ON, it still takes blurry pics. This is my first smart-phone, but I've anticipated for over a year now reading reviews here and there and each one of them saying how good the camera was, and well.. blurry pictures aren't really any good.

I've read all your replies, about the dirty lens, and I went to clean mine to see if it helped and I noticed there was like a piece of ~6mm "hair" or strain INSIDE the lens, where I couldn't get to... obviously.

Not really sure how these things work, but would that cause the focus to be off?
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I'm on stock, and even with Anti-Shake ON, it still takes blurry pics. This is my first smart-phone, but I've anticipated for over a year now reading reviews here and there and each one of them saying how good the camera was, and well.. blurry pictures aren't really any good.

I've read all your replies, about the dirty lens, and I went to clean mine to see if it helped and I noticed there was like a piece of ~6mm "hair" or strain INSIDE the lens, where I couldn't get to... obviously.

Not really sure how these things work, but would that cause the focus to be off?
If you are still in your return period I would take it back to where you purchased it. If not contact Samsung you have a one year warranty.
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For me, when I try to take picture my zooming it..the picture quality gets very bad..any idea how to improve that
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My S3 is taking terrible pictures also! If there is a light on in a room it will pick that up and cause a terrible glare! NEVER has this problem with ANY other phone I have owned! Went to Verizon and they told me it is fine and it is NOT! Have a co-worker who has the Glaxzy S2 and that phone takes awesome, crisp, clear pictures. What's up with this! Hope someone can help me! Thanks!
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I was having the same issues with my Samsung Galaxy 3 camera and brought it back to Verizon after a few weeks. They gave me a brand new phone and the camera works perfecctly. More than likely if your camera is not working (very blurry pics or noticeable poor quality), then it's just your particular phone. Try to get a new one.
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The problem is definitely with the phone. Even my old Nokia N73 with 3 Mega pixels clicked much better & sharper pictures.. I have claimed a warranty replacement the next day I bought it. the blurry image was so much blurry that you can't recognize even the faces of the people sometimes. leave aside claims of sharp and crisp images. And I took the images in open broad daylight. so no question of bad lights. it clicks some exceptionally good pics sometimes but very bad most of the times, even if the hand or the subject is not moving atall. ( I tried placing the mobile on a hard table and taking the pic of the roof with voice command, so no hand shake possible). the warranty guy updated the firmware ( through kies) The issue has come down a bit. but it stills clicks blurry images many times ( atleast one in every 5 clicks)
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If I follow either of the attachment links I get a "invalid link specified" error.

In any case, quick 101 on camera stuff:

A digital camera consists of three main components:
Lens
Shutter
Sensor

The lens is a piece of glass that all light passes through. To control the amount of light that passes through the lens it has a disc that sits behind the glass that has a hole in it. The size of the hole can change, this is called the aperture.

The shutter sits behind the lens. You can think of this as a trap door that is normally shut but opens and then closes very quickly when a picture is taken. When open the shutter allows the light that flowed through the lens to hit the sensor.

The sensor sits behind the shutter. It is sensitive to light, so when the shutter opens it "sees" the light and from that it can form the image.

So, we can control how light or dark an image is in three ways:
We can make the aperture bigger, a bigger hole in the disc means more light gets in.
We can open the shutter for longer, the longer it is open, the more light we will have hitting the sensor.
Finally we could make the sensor more sensitive to light. This is known as the ISO setting.

Doing each of these things has disadvantages:
A wider aperture has an effect on depth of field (google it..). It can also cause pictures to become slightly out of focus because the optical part of the lens isn't very good when "wide open". Most lenses give their sharpest image in the middle of the aperture range.

A longer shutter time can cause blurry pictures, this is because the camera picks up movement from the person holding the camera, even if very slight.

Increasing the ISO setting will make pictures "noisy" or grainy, detracting from the overall appearance of the image.

So, back to your blurry pictures - it could be you are taking pictures in low light, the camera probably widens the aperture as far as it can go, increases the ISO setting as much as that can go.. but its still too dark so it can only increase the shutter time, it probably ends up too long and causes the camera to pick up shake.. causing the blur.

It kind of sucks, but I think phone camera technology is amazing for what it can handle, we have to remember it isn't meant to replace a DSLR or even a compact camera, phone cameras are just for snaps.
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