So with this update including a kernel, does that mean the bootloader has to be unlocked to install said new kernel?
The update won't load unless the bootloader sees that the OTA is properly signed. So yes, unless the bootloader is unlocked, your device would have to have the stock bootloader and most likely ROM to install this newest update.
If you are not stock and rooted, I wouldn't go back to stock to get the update just yet until the developers get a chance to see what's up. Most likely Verizon has requested that Samsung plug the holes in the original software that allowed root and using kexec to bypass the stock kernel in any "updates" we receive.
should be a great thing honestly...yes our search is dumbed down (but ive yet to use it once)...but the new baseband should hopefully improve radio performance...
should be a great thing honestly...yes our search is dumbed down (but ive yet to use it once)...but the new baseband should hopefully improve radio performance...
Sounds just like something Verizon would do. Lure us rooted users in with new baseband files with possibly better radio performance.
The droid x originally shipped with an un-encrypted bootloader. It wasn't until it was out for like more than a year that an OTA came along and ruined paradise with an encrypted bootloader.
Can't the devs find the encryption in the OTA and copy paste to crack the bootloader? Sign the encryption to other kernels?
Thats almost like saying youre gonna walk into a bank and look for the "keys" they use to unlock the vault, then proceed to unlock the vault and take the "loot", and walk out without getting caught on a monday morning. Maybe not so much as that but it is a tall order.
Thats almost like saying youre gonna walk into a bank and look for the "keys" they use to unlock the vault, then proceed to unlock the vault and take the "loot", and walk out without getting caught on a monday morning. Maybe not so much as that but it is a tall order.
But it is possible right? Compare the lines of code and hit the lottery?
The droid x originally shipped with an un-encrypted bootloader. It wasn't until it was out for like more than a year that an OTA came along and ruined paradise with an encrypted bootloader.
Droid x always had a locked bootloader. Same goes for all motorola phones. Each new bootloader usually has a new encryption on it so it's not as easy as taking it from the new one and putting it on the old one. Doesn't work that way.
Sounds just like something Verizon would do. Lure us rooted users in with new baseband files with possibly better radio performance.
So tempting.... evil Verizon.
the update HAS to happen...the real reason is the borking of the search feature...it has to happen to prevent the S3 being blocked by Apple over patent issues
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If it was that easy, the Droid X bootloader would have been unencrypted years ago, so don't get your hopes up.
amen
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I thought they cracked the X.
never, still have not
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The droid x originally shipped with an un-encrypted bootloader. It wasn't until it was out for like more than a year that an OTA came along and ruined paradise with an encrypted bootloader.
WHAT!? i owned a DX from day 1...it was ALWAYS encrypted
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I said it was released un-encrypted, not "not locked down".
and youre still wrong
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They found a way to bypass the bootloader with what's called a second-init boot, basically a hack, on the Droid X. I've not been following XDA super close, but I believe that's what they're trying to do on the VZ GS3....Hopefully we'll be able to get that.
I am rooted, so I'm just going to click no or maybe freeze the update apk until they root the image and restore Google search. I'd love a baseband update though...
They found a way to bypass the bootloader with what's called a second-init boot, basically a hack, on the Droid X. I've not been following XDA super close, but I believe that's what they're trying to do on the VZ GS3....Hopefully we'll be able to get that.
I am rooted, so I'm just going to click no or maybe freeze the update apk until they root the image and restore Google search. I'd love a baseband update though...
the approach for the GS3 is VERY different than what has been done with the DX...VERY VERY different
But it is possible right? Compare the lines of code and hit the lottery?
To give you an idea of the difficulty of un-encrypting the encryption on a digital signing key (or whatever its called), it took the PSP hacking community about 8 years to extract.
They found a way to bypass the bootloader with what's called a second-init boot, basically a hack, on the Droid X. I've not been following XDA super close, but I believe that's what they're trying to do on the VZ GS3....Hopefully we'll be able to get that.
I am rooted, so I'm just going to click no or maybe freeze the update apk until they root the image and restore Google search. I'd love a baseband update though...
Why not just re-root after the update and restore the original voice search apk? Heck, you could even install the vastly superior Google Now Voice Search.
It's amazing how Verizon is so quick to approve updates that take away functionality, but they take forever to approve the real updates for new Android versions.
Jokers.
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It's amazing how Verizon is so quick to approve updates that take away functionality, but they take forever to approve the real updates for new Android versions.
Jokers.
This is more of a Samsung update then a Verizon update.
Why not just re-root after the update and restore the original voice search apk? Heck, you could even install the vastly superior Google Now Voice Search.
Because we don't know if the update will block the root exploit...So it's always a good idea not to allow the update until we know if the current rooting method still works.
I've seen the Google Now stuff, but since it's not completely functional, I haven't installed it. Plus if you install that you have to kill the search you have, I'd rather not screw with that.
Because we don't know if the update will block the root exploit...So it's always a good idea not to allow the update until we know if the current rooting method still works.
I've seen the Google Now stuff, but since it's not completely functional, I haven't installed it. Plus if you install that you have to kill the search you have, I'd rather not screw with that.
The .621 update on the Droid X prevented rooting...unless of course you used something like Root Keeper to restore root after the update.
But it wasn't too long before someone figured out a new way to root it
Yea, but not with a stock image. If you want a stock verizon experience but with root, your SOL. If you backed up your root prior to taking .621, then you're in luck. Plus, even if you flash the Milestone X image, it's a lot more complicated than the 1-click method we used to do from windows..which you must now do from linux. Plus there's a lot more risk to bricking your dx than before.
Yea, but not with a stock image. If you want a stock verizon experience but with root, your SOL. If you backed up your root prior to taking .621, then you're in luck. Plus, even if you flash the Milestone X image, it's a lot more complicated than the 1-click method we used to do from windows..which you must now do from linux. Plus there's a lot more risk to bricking your dx than before.
dang , i didnt know the X had those issues , ever since froyo i switched to custom roms i think the last room i had was Liberty 3. I dont feel the urge to root my S3 because afer disabling all the bloat it runs pretty good but i still hope they unlock it so i can put a custom rom on it eventually
Yea, but not with a stock image. If you want a stock verizon experience but with root, your SOL. If you backed up your root prior to taking .621, then you're in luck. Plus, even if you flash the Milestone X image, it's a lot more complicated than the 1-click method we used to do from windows..which you must now do from linux. Plus there's a lot more risk to bricking your dx than before.
That would be why i don't remember it being that complicated. As soon as second int was released I was running an ics rom.
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