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Old October 7th, 2012, 11:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down usb mass transfer mode? how to?

ok so I went ahead and connected my Samsung galaxy s3 to my computer via usb to transfer pictures and I was uber-disappointed to see that my computer did not detect the phone as a usb mass storage device.

so I've searched the web and had the misfortune to discover that apparently it's not possible to connect the galaxy usb mass storage device like a usb stick which most people have these days and which most if not all phones are capable of.

so how do you enable the usb mass storage transfer mode on the galaxy s3??????

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No way to enable it. You can root and enable it for SD card only, if you need it that much.
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thanks for replying..

it's not that I need it "that much" but it's a VERY basic feature and not acceptable that a $700+ device not being able to do.. you get files from email, the web, sms, etc.. you record files ( take pictures, record videos, etc)

do you expect me to send a 300mb video like via email?

how do I copy my music files? 16gb+ via email???

seriously???

seriously?????

like if I had to open the hood and mess around with the engine to fill up my car..
 
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thanks for replying..

it's not that I need it "that much" but it's a VERY basic feature and not acceptable that a $700+ device not being able to do.. you get files from email, the web, sms, etc.. you record files ( take pictures, record videos, etc)

do you expect me to send a 300mb video like via email?

how do I copy my music files? 16gb+ via email???

seriously???

seriously?????

like if I had to open the hood and mess around with the engine to fill up my car..
You can still copy stuff over USB, I have no idea what you are talking about. It is just a different mode of connection notUMS but MTP and it still works for copying files.
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Sorry I forgot to mention the driver issue.. don't you need a driver to connect as mtp device??

Sure if I plug the phone the OS doesn't see it as a simple usb mass storage device.

On my Motorola Razer I had the choice of selecting the usb mode as mtp, mass storage and a third mode I can't remember.
 
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Sorry I forgot to mention the driver issue.. don't you need a driver to connect as mtp device??

Sure if I plug the phone the OS doesn't see it as a simple usb mass storage device.

On my Motorola Razer I had the choice of selecting the usb mode as mtp, mass storage and a third mode I can't remember.
UMS needs drivers too.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 03:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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On slackware Linux I did not have to install drivers and upon connecting the phone it was automatically mounted as a usb mass storage device. My operating system did not change. As a matter of fact it did not change in years.

If you run windoze yes you need drivers , but then again you need drivers for everything ... on linux chances they were built as modules or integrated with the kernel

Thanks for the clarity of your answers. I will root the device. That is if I can find an exploit for the Canadian version of the phone. You seems to know quite a bit about these things, perhaps you could kindly point me to the right place?
 
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IIRC the support for mass storage was removed from Android.

You can still copy stuff to the phone, it appears as a MTP device now.
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Hey Crafty

According to several threads ive found you are right about the usb mass storage mode being pulled from ICS. It seems that at some point during the development of ICS Samsung decided to remove it for whatever glorious reason. Go figure..

Now people are forced to install all kind of custom roms and root their devices hence fragmenting android already more than it is already..

I will try mtp mode and see if I like , but the usb mass storage mode was so effective and simple.. hey why keeping something simple when you can replace it by something complicated?? I don't appreciate when manufacturers make decisions like these, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Just my opinion.
 
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Edit - Apologies! Sometimes I just talk a load of rubbish!!! It could have been my MP3 that I had to fiddle with. I can't find any settings re USB connection so I have deleted my post.
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According to several threads ive found you are right about the usb mass storage mode being pulled from ICS. It seems that at some point during the development of ICS Samsung decided to remove it for whatever glorious reason. Go figure..

Now people are forced to install all kind of custom roms and root their devices hence fragmenting android already more than it is already..

I will try mtp mode and see if I like , but the usb mass storage mode was so effective and simple.. hey why keeping something simple when you can replace it by something complicated?? I don't appreciate when manufacturers make decisions like these, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Just my opinion.
Samsung did not develop ICS, JB or any version of Android whatsoever. Google did.
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It seems as though Samsung chose not to compile USB mass storage mode as well as apps to sd into the kernel. The option was available it just wasn't used. Motorola on the other hand did indeed compile the kernel right and both of those options are available in ICS.

I love both the Razr MAXX and the Samsung Galaxy S3 but I do believe this was a serious oversight on Samsung's part.
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Drives me nuts! Is there a workaround?
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I really do not miss USB mass storage mode.

I can still click and drag my music and picture just as good with MTP.
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Samsung did not develop ICS, JB or any version of Android whatsoever. Google did.
Ok true android is a Google product but you are wrong about the specific device configuration .. like laptops Dell, Lenovo, Compaq , or Acer are all selling with windowze but they are all a bit different due to their different manufacturers..

So you see people are slowly agreeing .. small basic features such as this usb mode cannot be removed without replacing it with something easier better and more efficient.. it's what we call improvement.

If Samsung did not chose to compile apps to sd that i don't know cause i haven't tried out yet. However I would not be surprised.... with their own store services , the removal of easy connections to the outside world, I slowly have a feeling your device will be tied to them more and more... kinda why I left apple. Just my opinion. I know there are people out there that are overly sensitive and I don't want to offend anyone. I'm just expressing my gut feelings.

Anyway I cannot help it but feel regrets to have "upgraded" my Motorola droid razr for the galaxy s3. I am severely disappointed with it. What a shame..

I will try to play more with it whenever I have some spare time but again I don't get the idea of spending time to make a product work the way it is supposed when it's supposed to be consumer ready.

Good thing I have a sturdy case on that phone!
 
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On slackware Linux I did not have to install drivers and upon connecting the phone it was automatically mounted as a usb mass storage device. My operating system did not change. As a matter of fact it did not change in years.

If you run windoze yes you need drivers , but then again you need drivers for everything ... on linux chances they were built as modules or integrated with the kernel

Thanks for the clarity of your answers. I will root the device. That is if I can find an exploit for the Canadian version of the phone. You seems to know quite a bit about these things, perhaps you could kindly point me to the right place?
Before you do, word of warning... it may be fruitless. Ptp and mtp don't work on my Linux box. Nor does (or did last checked) the root methods of usb mass storage.

I ended up making ubuntu an ftp server instead
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I will try to play more with it whenever I have some spare time but again I don't get the idea of spending time to make a product work the way it is supposed when it's supposed to be consumer ready.

Good thing I have a sturdy case on that phone!
I'm confused how you feel you have to "make it work". Even though this phone does not have USB Mass storage mode like my Inc 2 had it still functions the same way on my laptop. After installing the drivers I can click and drag files to the phone just like my Inc 2 did in mass storage mode.
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Ok true android is a Google product but you are wrong about the specific device configuration .. like laptops Dell, Lenovo, Compaq , or Acer are all selling with windowze but they are all a bit different due to their different manufacturers..

So you see people are slowly agreeing .. small basic features such as this usb mode cannot be removed without replacing it with something easier better and more efficient.. it's what we call improvement.

If Samsung did not chose to compile apps to sd that i don't know cause i haven't tried out yet. However I would not be surprised.... with their own store services , the removal of easy connections to the outside world, I slowly have a feeling your device will be tied to them more and more... kinda why I left apple. Just my opinion. I know there are people out there that are overly sensitive and I don't want to offend anyone. I'm just expressing my gut feelings.

Anyway I cannot help it but feel regrets to have "upgraded" my Motorola droid razr for the galaxy s3. I am severely disappointed with it. What a shame..

I will try to play more with it whenever I have some spare time but again I don't get the idea of spending time to make a product work the way it is supposed when it's supposed to be consumer ready.

Good thing I have a sturdy case on that phone!
I switched from Razr to S3 too and if you are telling me, that the fact you get no UMS on S3 makes it even or worse than the Razr, you do not know much about this phone and all the tricks it has up its sleeve. Motorola offered nothing in terms of enhancement to Android itself and just added some Blur stuff, that after ICS did not mean much. S3 one the other hand, offers a lot of very innovative features and I can tell you that the lack of UMS is just a 1% negative in a 99% positive overall.
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The USB Mass Storage was removed by Google in ICS. You can get it back by rooting the phone and using an App called SGS3 Easy UMS.
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I ended up making ubuntu an ftp server instead
Yes, its almost fruitless... I tried installing libmtp, scons, and tried to find a gMTP package for by distro (slackware) and nothing to do, it doesnt work. To transfer music files, I had to disassemble the Otterbox defender case, open the phone, take the SD card out, dock it in my computer then transfer files. Not big of a deal but plugging a USB cable was simpler and faster. Plus, with opening and closing the case like that every tinme I want to modify the content of the SD card, the case will end up wrecked and will not close tightly anymore..

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I switched from Razr to S3 too and if you are telling me, that the fact you get no UMS on S3 makes it even or worse than the Razr, you do not know much about this phone and all the tricks it has up its sleeve. Motorola offered nothing in terms of enhancement to Android itself and just added some Blur stuff, that after ICS did not mean much. S3 one the other hand, offers a lot of very innovative features and I can tell you that the lack of UMS is just a 1% negative in a 99% positive overall.
Sorry but it doesnt even remotely help. I understand what you are saying but do you have a working suggestion? Criticizing what I say is OK (if constructive) and I will be more than happy to learn from you or other knowledgeable members but in the end it is a path leading to a working solution (or workaround) that I am seeking.

In the end, I am confident this phone has some potential (I hope for the price tag) but nevertheless, the UMS was such a simple, proven, working and stable feature that removing it without any kind of warning or mitigation is just plain ugly. That was simple and worked well. Period.

I have left Apple because you needed drivers and a bloated complicated piece of software (iTunes) to be able to transfer files to & from the phone. With the need of a driver for MTP and the forced implementation of MTP & PTP, its getting to look more and more like Apple. If in the end Android and Apple are like for like, I will definitely opt for the latest since the overall experience is much better (stability wise, speed, battery life, amount of bugs, features of the phone, quality of the construction, etc).
 
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From what I've read here -- NO you can't, at least, with the INTERNAL filesystem.

That is a serious problem for me because I have some corrupted thumbnails that are stored in the ".thumbnails" directory on the INTERNAL file system.

The rooting and app you talk about, from my understanding, only work on the EXTERNAL drive.

If someone knows for sure that they work on the INTERNAL drive as well, please correct me -- I'd really like to find a way to get rid of these corrupted files.
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From what I've read here -- NO you can't, at least, with the INTERNAL filesystem.

That is a serious problem for me because I have some corrupted thumbnails that are stored in the ".thumbnails" directory on the INTERNAL file system.

The rooting and app you talk about, from my understanding, only work on the EXTERNAL drive.

If someone knows for sure that they work on the INTERNAL drive as well, please correct me -- I'd really like to find a way to get rid of these corrupted files.
Can't you just delete the files using the internal file browser?
 
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From what I've read here -- NO you can't, at least, with the INTERNAL filesystem.

That is a serious problem for me because I have some corrupted thumbnails that are stored in the ".thumbnails" directory on the INTERNAL file system.

The rooting and app you talk about, from my understanding, only work on the EXTERNAL drive.

If someone knows for sure that they work on the INTERNAL drive as well, please correct me -- I'd really like to find a way to get rid of these corrupted files.
UMS is for reading both SD internal and external on a PC, not for reading system files of the phone. I have used it several times with great success. You could download any File Manager App from the market to read the internal system, but you still would have to be rooted to do so.
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Can't you just delete the files using the internal file browser?
Have tried that -- and does not show "hidden" directories -- which applies to ".thumbnails" -- since it begins with a period.

IF there's some option I can set to see these, please let me know.
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UMS is for reading both SD internal and external on a PC, not for reading system files of the phone. I have used it several times with great success. You could download any File Manager App from the market to read the internal system, but you still would have to be rooted to do so.
I need to get rid of corrupted thumbnail files stored in the ".thumbnails" directory on the phone -- which could be considered "system files".

So, you're saying if I rooted the phone, then I could do this?
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ok so I went ahead and connected my Samsung galaxy s3 to my computer via usb to transfer pictures and I was uber-disappointed to see that my computer did not detect the phone as a usb mass storage device.

so I've searched the web and had the misfortune to discover that apparently it's not possible to connect the galaxy usb mass storage device like a usb stick which most people have these days and which most if not all phones are capable of.

so how do you enable the usb mass storage transfer mode on the galaxy s3??????

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OK Lets get a few things straight. The S3 uses MTP which is part of the USB protocol. MTP was added to the USB protocol back in 2005 or 2006 and has been adopted by almost everyone in the industry. All cameras now use it as well as every OS on the market except for Apple (Of course). Apple uses PTP which is similar to MTP.

So if you have a USB device and you stick a MTP device into it and the USB device was written correctly then it should work. Only cases where it wouldn't is if they didn't do it right or the USB device was made prior to 2005-2006.

Windows has had MTP support since Vista and Microsoft released drivers for the previous OSs as well. MTP support is built into Android, Amiga, Windows, AROS, Linux, and MorphOS and Symbian OS. Supposedly you may have to add drivers for some of these.

Now if you own a computer your USB device may not be made by one of these companies (Might be made by Intel or Dell or whomever). So you just plug in the S3 to your computer and if it works, great, and if it doesn't go hunt for a driver from whomever made your USB device or buy a USB device that was made correctly. If it doesn't work when you plug your S3 into your computer, don't blame Samsung or Google, blame whomever made your hardware of your USB device inside of your computer.

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Thanks for the usb explanations. Very good to know.

I assume that by usb device you mean the usb controller on my motherboard. My mobo is an Asus (don't remember the exact model) but it's less than 6months old. According to you is would support the mtg protocol which it does but it's the lack of drivers that makes the deal breaks.

The linux kernel seems to correctly detect the phone but cannot mount it so it is usable..

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Into linux?? Really? That's not what I've experienced and searching Google for a workaround led me to dozens of forums where people stated that mtp plain simple doesn't work under linux (or is extremely buggy and unstable).

I am not blaming Google or Samsung for linux not supporting mtp and I understand the support of mtp is sketchy at best under linux but what I am blaming Google or Samsung is the apparent lack of understanding for non windows users.

Mtp also means that I will have to install a driver on EVERY machine I want to connect my phone to?? What if I want to copy files on or from a computer that doesn't have a web connection? What about if I simply don't want to fiddle with drivers on every machine I will ever want to connect my phone to?

With UMS I never had to even worry about that. It was really "Plug and play"...

I guess in the end its just different school of thoughts... I prefer simplicity and ease of use, others prefer complicated stuff that will end up being revised and subject to driver changes every so often..

I will "hunt" for a driver as you suggested and see how far I get. If someone find a way to circumvent this limitation please let us know.
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Can someone please give me step by step instructions on how to use my phone as a usb storage device. I have about 10 gigs of music that I want to puy on my 64 gig card but dont know how to do it. I use windows xp if that helps. I have the att version gs3. I couldnt find the mtp driver. Thanks in advance.
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Can someone please give me step by step instructions on how to use my phone as a usb storage device. I have about 10 gigs of music that I want to puy on my 64 gig card but dont know how to do it. I use windows xp if that helps. I have the att version gs3. I couldnt find the mtp driver. Thanks in advance.
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ok so I went ahead and connected my Samsung galaxy s3 to my computer via usb to transfer pictures and I was uber-disappointed to see that my computer did not detect the phone as a usb mass storage device.

so I've searched the web and had the misfortune to discover that apparently it's not possible to connect the galaxy usb mass storage device like a usb stick which most people have these days and which most if not all phones are capable of.

so how do you enable the usb mass storage transfer mode on the galaxy s3??????

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try this on a mac and u quickly find there is no way it comes up as a mass storage device. MTP & PTP Style does not register! I'm using OSX Mountain Lion. Android file transfer does not work either. no easy way to copy 16+ Gb of music (for example) from one to the other...without taking the extSD out of the phone and plugging that str8 into the computer. And what's the deal with android file transfr not werking in the first place? is there an update coming to fix this?!?? so annoying...ugh!
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try this on a mac and u quickly find there is no way it comes up as a mass storage device. MTP & PTP Style does not register! I'm using OSX Mountain Lion. Android file transfer does not work either. no easy way to copy 16+ Gb of music (for example) from one to the other...without taking the extSD out of the phone and plugging that str8 into the computer. And what's the deal with android file transfr not werking in the first place? is there an update coming to fix this?!?? so annoying...ugh!
I have faced the very same problem as you. If you read my previous posts you will see that I tried to transfer several gigabytes of music from my computer and I had to disassemble the case and take the cover off, cover that by the way dear fellow s3 users will end up getting slack and will not close tight anymore. Then copy paste the files and move the sd card to the phone and reassemble the case..... awful if you ask but I did not find anything else and I did not feel wasting 10 hours of my life compiling a driver for linux..

I feel the only way to stand a change to get things straight again is to complain to Google until they wake up.

I'd like to point out that accepting a change requiring you to change the way you do things is ok, but it doesn't necessarily means that you have to believe this change is absolutely the best and for the best. I am referring to the drivers required to transfer files...

Other way I believe is to hack the crap out of the device or root it? The last option was interesting but I did not find a reliable source for a Canadian s3 rooted Rom... last thing I want is to brick this phone and get screwed by my service provider.. if anyone has rooted theirs please post back!!!

I will look on Google bug reports for enhancement report. I have seen many but I'll try to find the most recent and add myself to the people who wants this to change. Maybe before my 3 year cell phone contract expires I'll be able to use the phone as before?
 
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Don't like the move from classic usb mass storage either.

A few other "solutions", that I are not the solution asked for, but gets your stuff from computer to phone (and back again) without the need to disassemble your case.

Use either Airdroid from the Play store, or set up your Linux box as a ftp server. It will be a little slow, but it works reliably.
Dropbox is another alternative.

But they are bad "solutions" to a problem that I strongly feel shouldn't exist.
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I feel the same way. Seems programmers are pushing all kind of immature technologies to consumers without options to opt out if unsatisfied.. very disappointing.

I am glad you posted the ftp solution. I will try it and post back with some results. Again soooooo complicated for something so simple.

I will also open complain to Samsung by writing and open a Google report and post back the report number here so if someone wants to add to it they will be.

Were several folks who don't like what they're doing. Google should know and not ignore they customers. Period.
 
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You may find it easier to make your phone the server using SwiFTP. I set it to the root, or /, I find that preferable. Hope this helps.

This may be easier. It wouldn't be suitable for me. With Linux, I can browse all my network shares with my Linux box being the FTP server.

Another benefit of this is, I don't need to be at the computer to do this. I don't even need to be in the same country

Easier sometimes not always the best

Plus, no need for an additional app. I can use E strongs file manager to manage the FTP connectivity. As I already use this as my File manager, I manage to cut down on having that extra app.

I am kind of glad this issue exists as it pushed me to find a solution. My computer being an FTP server is not only the solution for this, but also the solution to many other issues too. Such as access to my LAN shares from other computers too, when I'm not at home
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Have you tried Solid Explorer on your phone yet? Also not bad. I like the two panel option in landscape.
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Galaxy Note 2 and Galaxy S3 users can use the SGS3EasyUMS application that has been created by someone at XDA, I don't remember the name. But, it's very useful. The problem is your device has to be rooted.

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Have tried that -- and does not show "hidden" directories -- which applies to ".thumbnails" -- since it begins with a period.

IF there's some option I can set to see these, please let me know.
.thumbnails isn't a system folder, it's just hidden. You can just use the built in file manager, you only need to open it, go to settings, and select "Show hidden files".
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OK Lets get a few things straight. The S3 uses MTP which is part of the USB protocol. MTP was added to the USB protocol back in 2005 or 2006 and has been adopted by almost everyone in the industry. All cameras now use it as well as every OS on the market except for Apple (Of course). Apple uses PTP which is similar to MTP.

So if you have a USB device and you stick a MTP device into it and the USB device was written correctly then it should work. Only cases where it wouldn't is if they didn't do it right or the USB device was made prior to 2005-2006.

Windows has had MTP support since Vista and Microsoft released drivers for the previous OSs as well. MTP support is built into Android, Amiga, Windows, AROS, Linux, and MorphOS and Symbian OS. Supposedly you may have to add drivers for some of these.

I just got a replacement radio for my wife's car and that unit will NOT recognize the S3 when plugged into it's USB port. It will, however, recognize my old Galaxy S when I set the Galaxy S to the USB Mass Storage option. So, not all newer USB devices will work with MTP.

Now if you own a computer your USB device may not be made by one of these companies (Might be made by Intel or Dell or whomever). So you just plug in the S3 to your computer and if it works, great, and if it doesn't go hunt for a driver from whomever made your USB device or buy a USB device that was made correctly. If it doesn't work when you plug your S3 into your computer, don't blame Samsung or Google, blame whomever made your hardware of your USB device inside of your computer.

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http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/MTPv1_1.zip

I just got my wife a new radio for her car with USB input. The radio will recognize my old Galaxy S when I set the Galaxy S to the USB Mass Storage mode. However, it will NOT recognize my new S3 in either MTP or PTP mode (the only two options for the S3). So, not all newer USB devices will work in MTP/PTP mode!
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Do you all have to connect through usb?

How about accessing your nas/pc through webdav and es file explorer. I only cable my s3 to charge it. wireless networking for everything else. I have my phone shared on my network at home aswell.
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Hey Crafty

According to several threads ive found you are right about the usb mass storage mode being pulled from ICS. It seems that at some point during the development of ICS Samsung decided to remove it for whatever glorious reason. Go figure..

Now people are forced to install all kind of custom roms and root their devices hence fragmenting android already more than it is already..

I will try mtp mode and see if I like , but the usb mass storage mode was so effective and simple.. hey why keeping something simple when you can replace it by something complicated?? I don't appreciate when manufacturers make decisions like these, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Just my opinion.

It is not complicated at all. My seven year old transferred a couple of gig worth of music to my phone via MTP for me while I was taking a shower. It's really not that different than the way it was before Jelly Bean.
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Yeah MTP. Mode is exactly if you attached an mp3 player. It shows up as a device which you double clicks then drag n drop.

The significance of no USB mass storage is not simplicity. Its other things you can't do. Transferring music and pictures is as easy as it ever was
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You can still copy stuff over USB, I have no idea what you are talking about. It is just a different mode of connection notUMS but MTP and it still works for copying files.
Well yeah, the device shows up in Win 7 explorer as a music player with an SD. But so far as I can see, apps on the mother ship have no way to address the SD card (like no drive letter or even a \\server\share location). Please somebody let me know if I'm missing something! If the explorer can do it, why not joe app?

My good old sync program (with LOADS of files) no longer can sync. And my audio book listener can't see the SD card to store huge amounts of books.

This is really unacceptable. It's a capability that has been there since phones took SD cards. Now gone. And it's not like USB is a dying technology.

Please, Google, listen to your faithful and bring back USB mass storage!
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Do you all have to connect through usb?

How about accessing your nas/pc through webdav and es file explorer. I only cable my s3 to charge it. wireless networking for everything else. I have my phone shared on my network at home aswell.
Wireless is great if you have it. Works (sort of OK) for syncing at home, but my company doesn't let us into their wireless network (security risk - rightfully so). USB has always been reliable & fast. Why take away that capability?
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So let me get this straight.

I just did the JB update. Before the update I could plug in my phone to my windows 7 machine via USB and it would mount as a drive and I could do as I please..

After I do the update, I get device not recognized, no drivers work and it isn't simple as my previous 5 phones... And this is "normal"?

If this is how it is, that's a HUGE step backwards for Android!
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So let me get this straight.

I just did the JB update. Before the update I could plug in my phone to my windows 7 machine via USB and it would mount as a drive and I could do as I please..

After I do the update, I get device not recognized, no drivers work and it isn't simple as my previous 5 phones... And this is "normal"?

If this is how it is, that's a HUGE step backwards for Android!
It's been like this since ICS. Nothing to do with the JB update. Galaxy s3 on 4.0.4, there wad no UMS mode. Just MTP (makes windows think you connected a media player) or PTP (makes windows think you connected a camera).

You could still drag n drop files using the photo transfer protocol or media transfer protocol. Its just neither show up as a drive letter.

You can almost do everything you need on windows. Mac or Linux, not so much but even on windows, you may want to run scripts or software that relies on drive letters...

Yes its a failure IMHO but its not a new one
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It's been like this since ICS. Nothing to do with the JB update. Galaxy s3 on 4.0.4, there wad no UMS mode. Just MTP (makes windows think you connected a media player) or PTP (makes windows think you connected a camera).

You could still drag n drop files using the photo transfer protocol or media transfer protocol. Its just neither show up as a drive letter.

You can almost do everything you need on windows. Mac or Linux, not so much but even on windows, you may want to run scripts or software that relies on drive letters...

Yes its a failure IMHO but its not a new one
I had been using my galaxy nexus for transfers and stuff.... Didn't realize my S3 wouldn't work the same
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