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Old October 24th, 2012, 04:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am being offered the JB update on T-Mobile UK.
Overall what are the impressions of the update?
What are the problems encountered?
What are the good things?

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I went for it in the end, after watching a few forums for any problems. SIM-free, so can't comment specifically on T-Mobile.

First impression was a noticeable "smoothness" feel. I use Nova Launcher Prime, and it seemed a little more silky smooth straight off. Almost as if the animations had slowed, but the frames-per-second had increased. This is also true when using the phone at a "never will I really use it this fast" pace - the smoothness keeps up. Huge improvement on panning around webpages too, especially when they're still loading. No more lag! Noticeably faster unlock transition from lock screen to homescreen too.

Second on the list was Google Now for me, set that up and have had a good play with Google Voice. It's pretty decent. Not quite got the integration I'd hoped for yet, but perhaps that'll improve (he says, hopefully). An example is sending a text. You can say "text Rob, I will be there in ten". All it does is find Rob's details and offers me a link to open Messaging where I type a message. Bit disappointing. Same with alarms - doesn't understand tomorrow or dates. It does, however, work with facts and other bits of functionality too so it's not all bad. "Wake me up at 9" does in-fact wake you up at 9.

I had no problems other than the usual fight with Kies...pff.

Edit: Oh, and expandable notifications are pretty neat.
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I updated on T-Mobile and am happy with it there no Boltware that I have noticed and the phone just seems a lot smoother other than a few settings being moved around and Google Now most of it is the same as before just smoother.
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I think that had this upgrade not been given a fancy name then not many people would be talking about it.

As above I noticed an increase in how smooth it runs, I'm giving the thumbs up to the pause button added for video recording but in all honestly for the amount of press and publicity jellybean has been given I expected a little more I guess.
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I'm not that impressed. I don't notice any advantages with it. Ics was very smooth for me - I don't use Google now and the voice search is gimmicky. I hate the grey status bar which I think ruins the look of any wallpaper used plus battery life for me is much much worse. I can't get through a full day on a charge and that is with using the phone very little. I may end up flashing back to ics
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pcbms - if you don't use Google Now, have you actually turned it off? People are saying it's quite a battery drain.

Google Search > Settings > Google Now and turn off.

Apologies if you meant you'd already done that.
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After one night, battery life appears to have halved. Phoned used about 3-5% over night previously, last night it had chewed through 9%.

Might be Google Now - I'm not really bothered by it but thought I should let you know.
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I like Google Now (I have a hospital appointment this morning and its flagging up heavy traffic on the route). I think the improved S voice is better for hands free calling and texting (spot on in my tests). Dont like the new female voice and how it wont use my other loaded speech engines.
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Installed last nigt on my Galaxy S3. Had the usual connection issues with Kies but got their in the end.
Following of from the hype around this upgrade Im disapointed. Not really any different to ICS.
I suspect that ther is an organsied hyping industry around all things smartphone as part of the marketing effort between the three major system contenders & anything new is hyped way beyond reality.
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yeah battery life has been drastically reduced, hope they issue a fix. I'm on Vodafone UK network the phone is unbranded.
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What do you like about your Jellybean update?
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Granted its CM10 and not the AT&T official, I've been running JB for a few weeks now.

-Absolutely love how smooth everything is now. Smooth transitions, honestly don't want to give too much credit but project butter def smoothed things out.

-Have Google now turned off as I don't really need the cards with updates but voice search and dictation seems much better.
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how are you turning google off? and what effects will this have on the handset?
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If you go into Google Search (long press Home > g, or via the search widget or long press menu).... then menu > Settings > google now

There is an on /off there.

Turning google now off means you wont get google now features. I did this as its a huge drain. No issues.
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I upgraded my unbranded phone last night and am fairly unimpressed so far (though this may be samsung, not jb per se).

I am most irritated by the way that when I wake up the phone using the home key it takes me to my homescreen, not just to what i was doing before it turned off.

I can't see many benefits so far.
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That is a setting that you have checked. You have the option to "always unlock to home screen" checked. Uncheck this and you will be taken directly to whatever was on screen when you locked the device. Can't remember where the setting is but once changed you won't unlock to home anymore.
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That is a setting that you have checked. You have the option to "always unlock to home screen" checked. Uncheck this and you will be taken directly to whatever was on screen when you locked the device. Can't remember where the setting is but once changed you won't unlock to home anymore.
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Thought there might be an option and looked for one before posting and following your reply, can't find it anywhere though. Suspect I am being a bit dim!

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my buddy was showing off Google Now on his rooted ICS phone and i like how fast it was at "whats the weather like" "did the Dallas Cowboys win last night" type questions, but now reading the drain it has on battery im not so sure im excited for it
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That is a setting that you have checked. You have the option to "always unlock to home screen" checked. Uncheck this and you will be taken directly to whatever was on screen when you locked the device. Can't remember where the setting is but once changed you won't unlock to home anymore.
Where is this? taking me to home screen and not running app is a pain.

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I;m on Tmob uk do I just sit and wait for something to ntify me or do I have to go and get JB from somewhere ?? I attached to kies yesterday and it just said latest firmware installed. Am I being thick??
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my buddy was showing off Google Now on his rooted ICS phone and i like how fast it was at "whats the weather like" "did the Dallas Cowboys win last night" type questions, but now reading the drain it has on battery im not so sure im excited for it
definitely doesn't drain the battery at all from my experience so far..in fact my battery life is probably slightly better since JB update.
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I;m on Tmob uk do I just sit and wait for something to ntify me or do I have to go and get JB from somewhere ?? I attached to kies yesterday and it just said latest firmware installed. Am I being thick??
I don't think T-Mob have readied their update yet.
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battery is completely fine for me on JB with Google Now on..everyone always crying about battery life! only 69% today nearly into my 11th hour of discharge with 30 mins of streaming and 30 mins of gaming in my lunch and the usual use.
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im with tmobile and ive just updated mine to jb. having a play about just now. all seems well so far

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What about flash for streaming? is that in Jelly Bean?
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The Google now 'On and Off' setting has already been set to off and every time I press on it, it prompts me to Press 'Yes I'm in' or 'maybe later'.

Do I need to activate it and then turn it off or shall I leave it be and there won't be a drain either.
 
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So far I like it, Google Now is pretty good and enjoy the smoothness of it. Although I'm using CheckROM so I don't know how much is also down to that.

Just updated to the latest CheckROM which is based on one of the newest JB updates and that has gotten rid of the lock screen problem. I originally thought it was a problem with Widget Locker tbh but this update has resolved it.
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The Google now 'On and Off' setting has already been set to off and every time I press on it, it prompts me to Press 'Yes I'm in' or 'maybe later'.

Do I need to activate it and then turn it off or shall I leave it be and there won't be a drain either.
If you don't want to use ir then don't turn it on. It activates background location reporting and this is what I blieve drains the battery. If you do turn it on then decide not to use it, after switching off go to settings, go into your google account then Maps and Lattitude and you can switch off location reporting in there
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It's so smooth and seamless in comparison to ICS not that I had a problem with ICS but there's a definite difference with regards to screen transitions.

I just switched off Google Now..it looks impressive but tbh I probably won't use it. I've only had it less than 24 hours but I am liking JB so far!
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Not all that different from ICS but am liking it so far. More menu options, improved icons (such as folder icons), better notification bar, more standard widgets, etc.

Haven't noticed much difference in battery usage...it may be better but it's certainly not worse from my point of view.

So far so good.
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Mainly good but docks don't work since JB.... No charging or aux out since JB
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Google Now doesn't understand much in the UK. Asking if a football team won doesn't work, etc. Doesn't even understand "set an alarm in 15 minutes", or "set an alarm for 8:30 tomorrow". You can ask it various fact-style questions, or for weather info.

Siri > GN in the UK for now, but it's just beginning so I suppose that's acceptable. As for the cards...all it does is tell me the weather and how far I am from home. I already know this, because I can see and I got to where I am so I'd hope that I know the way back.

More gimmicks, smoother UI. That's JB.
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Google Now doesn't understand much in the UK. Asking if a football team won doesn't work, etc. Doesn't even understand "set an alarm in 15 minutes", or "set an alarm for 8:30 tomorrow". You can ask it various fact-style questions, or for weather info.

Siri > GN in the UK for now, but it's just beginning so I suppose that's acceptable. As for the cards...all it does is tell me the weather and how far I am from home. I already know this, because I can see and I got to where I am so I'd hope that I know the way back.

More gimmicks, smoother UI. That's JB.
really though? works really well for me when I tested a check for the champions league scores the other night

infact I'm really impressed with Google Now atm it's going to be huge for Android for the future imo
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Google now kicks the crap out of siri stateside. Can ask it about most any major sports team ( what's the score, when's the next game, who won the last game, who won last time the x played the y), to set alarms, reminders, navigate my by bus to x destination
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The only thing I haven't figured out yet is ZOOM control. The web pages, etc.. seem extremely sensitive & it's a PIA. When I scroll up or down, the pages zoom to a ridiculous level. I've got the zoom level set on normal, but, the screen just seems way too sensitive.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Apparently,this is actually a feature, whether it's SAMSUNG or the O/S, I don't know. Anyway, running your thumb/finger up & down either edge of the screen zooms the screen in & out.
I hope there's some adjustment/checkbox to kill this, it's annoying, as my thumb naturally drags along the edge of the screen when I'm scrolling.

Again, any suggestions are welcome..

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I Like JB ,

but I have only one problem... When I enable Blocking Mood , the calls and messages and emails will be in silent , but the other notifications for Whats App , Facebook , Viber will still come with sounds ...!!!!!!!


any one facing the same problem?!!!
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everything is fine with JB. running touchwiz skin on top.
the phone was pretty smooth before and now, it's so smooth, I don't even notice the difference between it and ICS.

Google now is a drain but it takes me 90 +/- 15 minutes to get to school so it's a nice reminder to leave the house on time.
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infact I'm really impressed with Google Now atm it's going to be huge for Android for the future imo
Didn't understand "did Liverpool win last night?" (not a fan just a test I did a couple of days ago!) - it just Googled that phrase. Also, ask it to set an alarm for tomorrow...that's really pathetic.

It's not as good as Siri, but it's not really bad.
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The only thing I haven't figured out yet is ZOOM control. The web pages, etc.. seem extremely sensitive & it's a PIA. When I scroll up or down, the pages zoom to a ridiculous level. I've got the zoom level set on normal, but, the screen just seems way too sensitive.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Apparently,this is actually a feature, whether it's SAMSUNG or the O/S, I don't know. Anyway, running your thumb/finger up & down either edge of the screen zooms the screen in & out.
I hope there's some adjustment/checkbox to kill this, it's annoying, as my thumb naturally drags along the edge of the screen when I'm scrolling.

Again, any suggestions are welcome..

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Might be a browser issue. I use chrome before and after the update to jellybean and zoom operation remains the same. May be worth testing another browser to see if the issue goes away or not. If it DOES go away, maybe a clear data on the stock browser will help? Backup bookmarks first though
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Might be a browser issue. I use chrome before and after the update to jellybean and zoom operation remains the same. May be worth testing another browser to see if the issue goes away or not. If it DOES go away, maybe a clear data on the stock browser will help? Backup bookmarks first though
The zoom issues actually persist while using the PHANDROID application as well.The problem also is present in the stock browser & DOLPHIN.

I'll try clearing the data on the stock browser & see what happens.

BTW,& pardon moi for my ignorance on this zoom issue,but,is this 'zoom feature' part of JB/Project Butter?
The reason I ask is that it seems a bit redundant(if it is indeed a feature) because the zoom controls still exist in the lower right-hand corner of the screen.

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Our business doesn't text, but at least with emails, I can say "email Rob, I will be there in ten." A dialog pops up with the message and destination (Rob's details), along with a short timer. If I don't cancel within the timer range, the email is automatically sent. Again, it doesn't work unless it can uniquely identify the contact.
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The zoom issues actually persist while using the PHANDROID application as well.The problem also is present in the stock browser & DOLPHIN.

I'll try clearing the data on the stock browser & see what happens.

BTW,& pardon moi for my ignorance on this zoom issue,but,is this 'zoom feature' part of JB/Project Butter?
The reason I ask is that it seems a bit redundant(if it is indeed a feature) because the zoom controls still exist in the lower right-hand corner of the screen.

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Pinch to zoom works in many apps and always has done. Is your issue that pinch to zoom is too sensitive now? That's what I thought. Or is it that pinch to zoom works at all? Not sure I follow now
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Pinch to zoom works in many apps and always has done. Is your issue that pinch to zoom is too sensitive now? That's what I thought. Or is it that pinch to zoom works at all? Not sure I follow now

It's too sensitive when scrolling. It's not pinch to zoom, just natural scrolling w/your thumb, especially w/one-handed scrolling, that zooms the screen, as my thumb barely rubs along the edge of the screen.

Upon further review, it seems to be the stock browser & the PHANDROID application that this is the case, especially the PHANDROID application.

I have found that using a phone case that has a lip around the outer edges of the sides of the screen prevents the accidental zooming, however, I'd like to be able to control this exaggerated zooming, if possible.
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I'm sorry I don't understand. The scrolling also zooms?
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Pretty much,yes.Try it out for yourself.Run your finger along the edge of the phone & see if it zooms.That's what mine does w/the stock browser & PHANDROID app.

If I scroll directly in the middle of the screen,it doesn't zoom,but,if I scroll anywhere near the edge of the screen,the screen image zooms.
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