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Old November 13th, 2012, 09:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Debating RETURNING my galaxy s3 over this group text issue

bought the galaxy a week ago. phone is beautiful but I use group text all the time and the fact that android cant get this right baffles my mind. iphone 4 had no problem

tried go sms and handcent, and neither of them can even download the incoming group message. now its weird bc I know some people on the chains are not iPhone users.


Will this be something Android will fix or should I return it?

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Old November 14th, 2012, 01:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Best way to group message Iphone'ers with my s3?

Solution at the end of the thread.

This thread was 4th from the top of this forum when you posted yours
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This thread was 4th from the top of this forum when you posted yours
sorry,which solution are you referring to? checking off mms group chat in gosms or using groupme?
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I was refering to go sms but if there's multiple solutions then that's even better
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are you joking? making every person who I need to group text with download a 3rd party app is nowhere near a solution, especially when it already works for them

EDIT: go sms does NOT work on at&t
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...now its weird bc I know some people on the chains are not iPhone users.
I have no idea whether group texts refers simply to sending a text to a group of people or something else - maybe something Apple? I think it would help if you clarified the issue because many people here want to help and support other users, but cannot do so unless the problem is explained very clearly. I don't think that posting "are you joking?" is a helpful response and is unlikely to encourage other forum users to lend their support.

Having got that off my chest, you say that some people on the chain are not iPhone users, so an obvious suggestion is that you contact them to see how they've got it to work - especially if they are using Android phones. Not that I even understand what "on the chain" means!
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im confused what a group message is i guess, I can send a message to 1 person or a group of people just be adding people to the To field before i hit send
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are you joking? making every person who I need to group text with download a 3rd party app is nowhere near a solution, especially when it already works for them

EDIT: go sms does NOT work on at&t
This is simply not true... I use Go SMS with co-workers in iPhones for group messaging all the time, and I am on AT&T.
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im confused what a group message is i guess, I can send a message to 1 person or a group of people just be adding people to the To field before i hit send
I assume when they say "group message" they really mean "group chat" where text message replies are sent to all recipients of the initial group text message or in other words a text message conference call.

Basically iOS5+ users have an iMessenger app that allows iDevice users to do this and is integrated with their text messages.

GoSMS apparently tries to provide similar functionality by using an MMS Group Chat feature.

I'm still of the opinion the best solution is GroupME from Skype. It is free, seems to do the same thing as iMessenger but is cross platform (even people on feature phone can participate presuming they have texting). It has apps but works just fine over SMS. Best part is that only the group creator has to register an account to set up and manage groups. Once that is done all the creator has to do is add members to the groups. Recipients will receive a text inviting them to the group and all they have to do is reply to it. No need for recipients to install anything or set up an account somewhere. It is really very nice and works well.
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I assume when they say "group message" they really mean "group chat" where text message replies are sent to all recipients of the initial group text message or in other words a text message conference call.

Basically iOS5+ users have an iMessenger app that allows iDevice users to do this and is integrated with their text messages.

GoSMS apparently tries to provide similar functionality by using an MMS Group Chat feature.

I'm still of the opinion the best solution is GroupME from Skype. It is free, seems to do the same thing as iMessenger but is cross platform (even people on feature phone can participate presuming they have texting). It has apps but works just fine over SMS. Best part is that only the group creator has to register an account to set up and manage groups. Once that is done all the creator has to do is add members to the groups. Recipients will receive a text inviting them to the group and all they have to do is reply to it. No need for recipients to install anything or set up an account somewhere. It is really very nice and works well.
Yeah, I think this is what the OP is referring to. iOS has IMessenger and BlackBerry has BlackBerry Messanger. Android does not have anything like the built into the Android OS.
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I assume when they say "group message" they really mean "group chat" where text message replies are sent to all recipients of the initial group text message or in other words a text message conference call.

Basically iOS5+ users have an iMessenger app that allows iDevice users to do this and is integrated with their text messages.

GoSMS apparently tries to provide similar functionality by using an MMS Group Chat feature.

I'm still of the opinion the best solution is GroupME from Skype. It is free, seems to do the same thing as iMessenger but is cross platform (even people on feature phone can participate presuming they have texting). It has apps but works just fine over SMS. Best part is that only the group creator has to register an account to set up and manage groups. Once that is done all the creator has to do is add members to the groups. Recipients will receive a text inviting them to the group and all they have to do is reply to it. No need for recipients to install anything or set up an account somewhere. It is really very nice and works well.

thanks for the reply to explain the difference, I came from an iphone and never even realized when i sent a message to more than one person everyone got the replies.
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Just to clarify, this issue is not an Android issue. This is an issue per device based on whatever UI/UX that is running. On HTC Sense, this is easily done with a simple reply-all feature. However, it appears that TouchWiz does not have the same functionality for whatever reason.
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Just to clarify, this issue is not an Android issue. This is an issue per device based on whatever UI/UX that is running. On HTC Sense, this is easily done with a simple reply-all feature. However, it appears that TouchWiz does not have the same functionality for whatever reason.
Au contraire - it is an Android issue in that Android does not provide feature natively. As you have highlighted manfactuers may or may not choose to add this feature through their own custome apps. This does not change the fact that Android does not provide it.

Personally though I don't know that I'd like to see Android provide this as the trend seems to be provide it as proprietary service limited to only those using similar devices. One of the reasons I use GroupME now is because I could include my friends on Android phones, one on a feature, and friend on a Blackberry (and if I had any friends with iDevices or WinPhone they could be included to - heck even people on PCs could be included). If this is added into Android I hope they choose to do so in a manner that communicates with everyone regardless of what ecosystem they operate in.
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Not sure if we are talking about the same, but Google already provides a similar feature, and that's Talk, I am not sure whether it's cross-platform or not, but all it takes is a Google Account and the App itself. So Android users aren't left out, unless BBM and iMessenger have more features.

I might be wrong, since I actually use very rarely SMS services, etc.
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Just to clarify, this issue is not an Android issue. This is an issue per device based on whatever UI/UX that is running. On HTC Sense, this is easily done with a simple reply-all feature. However, it appears that TouchWiz does not have the same functionality for whatever reason.
Negative. If you hit reply all it sends your response to each individual as a separate text and not as a group. So each person thinks you are responding to them and not the group setting. Shame that google hasnt figured this out yet.
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are you joking? making every person who I need to group text with download a 3rd party app
I think you're getting confused with solutions. Only YOU would have to have goSMS.
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I have Go SMS on AT&T. I'm going to test the group text functionality as soon as I'm with two iPhoners, and report back to this thread. It would sure be nice to be able to use group text properly across platforms.
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Have you seen this thread, it may be of help with the Go SMS settings for you? Particularly post #21.
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^ Awesome. Fantastic. Thank you. (and thanks to Pete for that post #21!)
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Hope you figure it out.. Although it would be quite a stupid reason to return the S3. Especially for an iPhone 5.
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Not sure if we are talking about the same, but Google already provides a similar feature, and that's Talk, I am not sure whether it's cross-platform or not, but all it takes is a Google Account and the App itself. So Android users aren't left out, unless BBM and iMessenger have more features.

I might be wrong, since I actually use very rarely SMS services, etc.
Talk is their online IM service. It operates over data and not SMS. It is cross platfom at least in the sense that if others can log into website they can get messages (not sure if actuall apps are available on other platforms). It's biggest downside I suppose is I don't think it keeps a record of the history and if you log out your out of the group until your reinvited. I would say it is a cousin to what we are talking about but not really the same thing.
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Haven't read through everything, but Go SMS and Handscent support Group Messaging/Chat with multiple users. I have used both on ATT and Sprint with Handscent and GoSMS. The settings are very easy to configure. Not sure what your problem is.
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I have no idea whether group texts refers simply to sending a text to a group of people or something else - maybe something Apple? I think it would help if you clarified the issue because many people here want to help and support other users, but cannot do so unless the problem is explained very clearly. I don't think that posting "are you joking?" is a helpful response and is unlikely to encourage other forum users to lend their support.

Having got that off my chest, you say that some people on the chain are not iPhone users, so an obvious suggestion is that you contact them to see how they've got it to work - especially if they are using Android phones. Not that I even understand what "on the chain" means!
I apologize, didnt mean to be rude. this phone is so awesome but this one flaw is making me frustrated
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Yeah, I think this is what the OP is referring to. iOS has IMessenger and BlackBerry has BlackBerry Messanger. Android does not have anything like the built into the Android OS.
I have a group conversation with 8 people, basically like an email chain. Not all are ios users, but when I had the iphone basically every response was threaded, and when I sent a message, it would go to the group thread. now when I reply, it goes to every person individually
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Use PoWow messaging application. You can start group messaging with any cell phone. IPhone, blackberry,android, dumbphones. it works with all. No one needs to get the application. The chat just shows up as a thread in the stock SMS application.

I had the same problem when I first switched from ios to android. This was the best solution. Works just as good, IMO.
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I have a group conversation with 8 people, basically like an email chain. Not all are ios users, but when I had the iphone basically every response was threaded, and when I sent a message, it would go to the group thread. now when I reply, it goes to every person individually
Hey man, I understand your frustration. Dont let the fanboys get to you. I enjoy android phones but I could careless about the battle between Apple and android. I just want the best user experience. You are justified in your frustration with group messenging (I am to, but not enough to return the phone) since you are the consumer you should get whatever you wants that makes you happy. The app I use for group messages is Handcent. Its not as smooth, becuase when a group text comes in you have to hit download, but the text goes to the group, and when you respond the entire group gets it, not individually.
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One last thing about this. All apps like GroupMe, Whatsapp, Powwow, etc are all fine and can do the job with one flaw. They only work if you are the one starting the group. If someone else starts a group text with different members then you are back to square 1.
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I use Go SMS Pro and it works well.

When I get a text from someone to a group (some people are iPhone, some are Blackberry) I get a notification as a message from them, but then a couple seconds later I get another notification and it moves it into it's own thread and lists all of the people included.

If I click on the thread I will see all of the messages from different people and if I start typing like a normal text it will send it to everyone listed unless I specify otherwise.

IMO this is exactly how a group text should work (except for the double notification). You DO need to enable this, it isn't a default setting. See post #18 above.
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One last thing about this. All apps like GroupMe, Whatsapp, Powwow, etc are all fine and can do the job with one flaw. They only work if you are the one starting the group. If someone else starts a group text with different members then you are back to square 1.
I'm not seeing the problem? If someone starts a new "group chat" - then it is for lack of a better word just another chat room with different people involved, what square one do you see this as being back too?
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I use Go SMS Pro and it works well.

When I get a text from someone to a group (some people are iPhone, some are Blackberry) I get a notification as a message from them, but then a couple seconds later I get another notification and it moves it into it's own thread and lists all of the people included.

If I click on the thread I will see all of the messages from different people and if I start typing like a normal text it will send it to everyone listed unless I specify otherwise.

IMO this is exactly how a group text should work (except for the double notification). You DO need to enable this, it isn't a default setting. See post #18 above.
Handcent works in a similar fashion, except you have to hit download as opposed to waiting a couple seconds. Everything else works for the group and you can see the whole thread as a group and respond to the group. If they could ever just get it to work flawlessly that would be awesome.
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Handcent works in a similar fashion, except you have to hit download as opposed to waiting a couple seconds. Everything else works for the group and you can see the whole thread as a group and respond to the group. If they could ever just get it to work flawlessly that would be awesome.
Yeah I don't get them often enough for it to really bug me at all. Definitely not something I would return my phone over.
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I'm not seeing the problem? If someone starts a new "group chat" - then it is for lack of a better word just another chat room with different people involved, what square one do you see this as being back too?
If a friend of mine who deosnt have Groupme starts a new group text with other people, then it doesnt involve groupme at all. Thus you are back to square one because the text will come through your regular sms service as opposed to Groupme
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Handcent works in a similar fashion, except you have to hit download as opposed to waiting a couple seconds. Everything else works for the group and you can see the whole thread as a group and respond to the group. If they could ever just get it to work flawlessly that would be awesome.
FYI there is a setting in handcent to auto-download MMS, works for the group messages. You will still get the double notification, once when it initially hits, and another once it downloads and sorts to the group list. I'm still holding out hope that the next iteration of android included native functionality as it really bogs down the phone as is.
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If a friend of mine who deosnt have Groupme starts a new group text with other people, then it doesnt involve groupme at all. Thus you are back to square one because the text will come through your regular sms service as opposed to Groupme
Eh - I suppose so and I'm not sure there really is a solution as long your looking for something that works cross-platform with as little added software as possible.

Honestly I don't really regard it that big of deal as it wouldn't be that difficult to shift the conversation to GroupME or better yet get my group sold on GroupME (or your service of choice) so that is what they use to chat with a group.
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My wife and daughter both complain to me about group sms with iphone users. They both use GoSMS. It looks like all of the pertinent settings are correct as per the link in post #18 above. The only thing different is that it is set for popup notifications. Can't imagine that would matter, or could it?

I've seen the double notification, but it also seems as if they have to click download each time. Are all you people using go SMS not having that issue?
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If I remember correctly, if I open it before the second notification it gives me the download button. But it generally just opens up automatically.

Not sure about the popup issue. I don't use it.
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Negative. If you hit reply all it sends your response to each individual as a separate text and not as a group. So each person thinks you are responding to them and not the group setting. Shame that google hasnt figured this out yet.
Forgive me for misunderstanding the original concept then. I thought the issue was just getting the message out to each individual, not maintaining it all in one location.

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My wife and daughter both complain to me about group sms with iphone users. They both use GoSMS. It looks like all of the pertinent settings are correct as per the link in post #18 above. The only thing different is that it is set for popup notifications. Can't imagine that would matter, or could it?

I've seen the double notification, but it also seems as if they have to click download each time. Are all you people using go SMS not having that issue?
That duplicated notification can be removed by turning off notifications in the stock messaging app, thus only allowing GoSMS to notify you when a message has been received (SMS/MMS).
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Forgive me for misunderstanding the original concept then. I thought the issue was just getting the message out to each individual, not maintaining it all in one location.



That duplicated notification can be removed by turning off notifications in the stock messaging app, thus only allowing GoSMS to notify you when a message has been received (SMS/MMS).

The double notification he is referring to is withing the Go SMS/Handscent app. It receives an MMS from User X in the group chat as an individual text. Upon understanding it is part of the group chat it merges the text into that group thread.and Notifies once again.
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My wife insists that I participate in group texting with her and other iphone users. Here is how you do it. Download Handcent from Play market. Open and go to Menu, Settings, Application Settings. Select "Default Messaging Application" and select "All" then go "back" to last menu. Then scroll all the way down and select "Thread Group Conversation". Now back out to main settings menu. Select "Receive Message Settings" and check "Auto retrieve" and "Auto Download". Now that should get things going on Handcent. Then open up the stock messaging app and then menu, settings and turn off "Notifications". Else you will get duplicate notifications. Remove the stock messaging icon from home screen bar and replace with Handcent. I know a lot of work for something that Android should already do. I am sure it's a patent thing. BTW I am on AT&T with a GS3 running
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I got all my BB and iPhone friends to install WhatsApp. I know it sucks trying to get a bunch of people to install a new app for texting but once I got through that part, the group chatting in WhatsApp is great. I was a former BB user and it's like BBM as it uses data and not SMS so that's not a problem for me.
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