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Old November 26th, 2012, 08:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was getting pertty consitant batter life, but all of a sudden in the past week or so my batter has been getting sucked dry when in standby. I woke up this morning and my phone was totally dead and I know it had a decent charge when I went to bed.

I know AT&T recently enable 4G lte in my area, but I have JuiceDefender that shuts down my data and wi-fi then the screen is off. Does anyone have any suggestions on what might be causing my sudden battery drain?
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have you tried going into your settings/battery to see what's been draining your battery so hard? maybe there's an app running in the background thats running it down pretty hard?

if juice defender disables your wifi, gps, data and all, i would look into the most recent installed apps.
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JD doesn't disable3 GPS, but it never has. The battery screen shows most of the drain to "system standby", but I think that's a known bug with the Galaxy on this version of the OS. I did remove one recently installed ap, but its not one I would think would use a lot of battery.
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What do apps like GSam Battery Monitor show to be using the most battery?

In GSam you can reset the statistics to zero by clicking the plus sign in the circle at the bottom of the main screen.

And you can click the blue right arrows to see more detail.
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What do apps like GSam Battery Monitor show to be using the most battery?

In GSam you can reset the statistics to zero by clicking the plus sign in the circle at the bottom of the main screen.

And you can click the blue right arrows to see more detail.
Wasn't aware of that ap. I'll give it a shot.
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Of course once I downloaded GSam I quit having the issue. Until this weekend. When I work up yesterday my phone was dead, so I charged it up last night and then let it go over night. It drained about 25%, which didn't seem as bad as when it actually died on me but still an awfull lot overnight considering I'm running JuiceDefender.

When I looked at Gsam, what I saw was that aps had used almost 90% of the power, and of that "Kernal" was 52% and "Android System" was about 10%. Maps was also like 8%, which I thought was very high since I never opened it after I unplugged....I'm not sure what it might be doing in the background.

So...any suggestions on what might be causing my drain?
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Exact same thing happened to me too...

Battery is driving me crazy !!!!!
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What does the Task Manager in the "System Tuner" app show for CPU% and Used CPU% if you turn on "System" and "Kernel" on the toolbar at the bottom of the screen?
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I'm also having battery issues that started within the past week or two. Typically my battery usage was approximately 6% / hour. Recently it's increased to 20+% / hour. No new apps installed. No changes in usage or behavior.

It was recommended to me to clear the cache which I did, but that didn't make a difference. There weren't any obvious apps running in the background.

I did just install GSAM based on what Dieben wrote above, will update when I give it some time to collect data.

I did notice that the phone was warmer then usual on Saturday, but that doesn't seem to be an issue currently.
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So After a week on 4.1.x stock rom on my S3 I was really getting annoyed about the battery. Given I have hardly any apps (clean install) and only 2 mails accounts, Facebook, and Google+ syncing.

Battery use didn't really show anything although I felt that the OS and standby were pretty high.

What I did? I turned off google now. It was the only thing I can think of that I actively changed since the patch... Instant change. I was dropping 10 - 20% in the first hour to hour and a half of discharge. Now I'm back to 2 - 4%... I have a fairly scheduled routine and so far so good....
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So After a week on 4.1.x stock rom on my S3 I was really getting annoyed about the battery. Given I have hardly any apps (clean install) and only 2 mails accounts, Facebook, and Google+ syncing.

Battery use didn't really show anything although I felt that the OS and standby were pretty high.

What I did? I turned off google now. It was the only thing I can think of that I actively changed since the patch... Instant change. I was dropping 10 - 20% in the first hour to hour and a half of discharge. Now I'm back to 2 - 4%... I have a fairly scheduled routine and so far so good....
I'm thinking of doing this myself. Bu the first couple of times I noticed this occuring was before we got our Jellybean update.
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What does the Task Manager in the "System Tuner" app show for CPU% and Used CPU% if you turn on "System" and "Kernel" on the toolbar at the bottom of the screen?
I see a CPU line, but i'm not seing a "Used CPU". My CPu seems to average around 20%, with occsional dips into single digits and spikes into the 40's
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So After a week on 4.1.x stock rom on my S3 I was really getting annoyed about the battery. Given I have hardly any apps (clean install) and only 2 mails accounts, Facebook, and Google+ syncing.

Battery use didn't really show anything although I felt that the OS and standby were pretty high.

What I did? I turned off google now. It was the only thing I can think of that I actively changed since the patch... Instant change. I was dropping 10 - 20% in the first hour to hour and a half of discharge. Now I'm back to 2 - 4%... I have a fairly scheduled routine and so far so good....
Is Google Now an app? Or some other Google thing?
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Is Google Now an app? Or some other Google thing?
google now is a feature part of 4.1.1 update. on the SGS3, hold down home button till your recent apps show up, then at the bottom, you'll notice three options instead of 2. the G (should be in the middle) is google now.
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Looking through my data usage, my usage has also tripled, although I'm not doing anything differently. I usually average 100-300mb /wk. with DropBox as the majority usage. I'm currently showing about 700mb with K-9 mail being the primary culprit.
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google now is a feature part of 4.1.1 update. on the SGS3, hold down home button till your recent apps show up, then at the bottom, you'll notice three options instead of 2. the G (should be in the middle) is google now.
thanks for the info. I'm running 4.0.4, so not an issue.
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Update: 2 hours. I'm down to 39% from about 75%.







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I was told by a verizon tech level 2 that when the battery gets hot from being in a pocket that it will use more battery power. Mine is getting bad also with no changes to phone at all. before I would come home from 8 hours of work and have 60% battery with little to no use and now I come home with 40% or less battery and not a phone call made emails not updating for 6 hours or more any more and a few text messages.
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I was told by a verizon tech level 2 that when the battery gets hot from being in a pocket that it will use more battery power. Mine is getting bad also with no changes to phone at all. before I would come home from 8 hours of work and have 60% battery with little to no use and now I come home with 40% or less battery and not a phone call made emails not updating for 6 hours or more any more and a few text messages.
That makes sense, but in my case, I rarely have it in my pocket. It's usually sitting on my desk or in the cars cupholder.
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Update: 2 hours. I'm down to 39% from about 75%.
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!!! The Phone Radio is on *continuously* !!!

And the phone is held awake almost continuously.

That could be the problem.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Wakelocks


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WHY is the phone radio on continuously?

What happens to battery usage if you go into airplane mode?
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And in the aLogcat app try going into Preferences and set the buffer to "Radio"
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I turned off Google Now, but I still seem to be getting a lot of battery drain from Kernal, which I'm not quite sure what causes that, and Maps, which I haven't even used since I unplugged it.

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!!! The Phone Radio is on *continuously* !!!

And the phone is held awake almost continuously.

That could be the problem.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Wakelocks


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WHY is the phone radio on continuously?

What happens to battery usage if you go into airplane mode?
In airplane mode the battery didn't drain at all. Then I disabled mobile data after turning everything back on and the battery drained at a more normal 6%/hour rate. I'll look at the link you posted.
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Can i suggest the app "cpu spy"...
It wont tell you whats doin it but if you reset timers in cpu spy, turn your screen off and leave it say 10mins, turn on, open cpu spy, and restore timers.... if "deep sleep" isnt the biggest thing, you have a bad app.
Are u runnin Light Flow?
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And in the aLogcat app try going into Preferences and set the buffer to "Radio"
Installed and configured per above. No idea what I'm looking for though.
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In airplane mode the battery didn't drain at all. Then I disabled mobile data after turning everything back on and the battery drained at a more normal 6%/hour rate. I'll look at the link you posted.
Is it an LTE phone bro?
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Can i suggest the app "cpu spy"...
It wont tell you whats doin it but if you reset timers in cpu spy, turn your screen off and leave it say 10mins, turn on, open cpu spy, and restore timers.... if "deep sleep" isnt the biggest thing, you have a bad app.
Are u runnin Light Flow?
Juice Defender belongs in 2010 btw man soz
I'll check out the app. Not running Light Flow.
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It's Verizon 4G.
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Here's a screen capture from aLogcat.
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And a few other screen captures from a couple hours ago.


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aLogcat is too clever for me but i use Gsam.
What were u doin with the phone during the time the Gsam stats were taken bro?
Do u remember what typa app you installed at around time ur probs started?
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In airplane mode the battery didn't drain at all. Then I disabled mobile data after turning everything back on and the battery drained at a more normal 6%/hour rate. I'll look at the link you posted.
That's interesting.

It's possible that some app or system process or system service is using up battery while trying to establish your location, even if your phone isn't doing anything that requires location services.

If the battery drain returns try going into Settings/Location Services and temporarily disabling everything. And go into Settings/Applications manager and temporarily disable Maps and any other apps that may use location services.
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.....the gsam would look fine if it hadnt happened in like 4hours man.
Sumthins stoppin it deep sleepin...
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Wow, that radio is doing a whole lot of *something*.

In aLogcat could you please go into Preferences and set the Format to "Time" and run it again?
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Wow, that radio is doing a whole lot of *something*.
What carrier are you using?

All that GsmDCT activity in the log looks like your phone is losing connection with the carrier and is repeatedly trying to re-establish connection through *APNs*.

The carrier configuration in your phone may have become corrupted and needs to be reprogrammed.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762790&page=65
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In aLogcat could you please go into Preferences and set the Format to "Time" and run it again?
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What carrier are you using?

All that GsmDCT activity in the log looks like your phone is losing connection with the carrier and is repeatedly trying to re-establish connection through *VPNs*.

The carrier configuration in your phone may have become corrupted and needs to be reprogrammed.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762790&page=65
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What were u doin with the phone during the time the Gsam stats were taken bro?
Do u remember what typa app you installed at around time ur probs started?
Nothing. Wanted to give it A clean reading.
No apps were installed. No changes to anything except the usual software updates.
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Verizon !!??

This is a GSM problem!

Is your Settings/More Settings/Mobile Networks/Network Mode set to "Global" instead of "LTE/CDMA"?
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Old December 11th, 2012, 12:05 AM   #40 (permalink)
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. . . Do u remember what typa app you installed at around time ur probs started?
In the super powerful Elixir2 app you can sort the "Applications" screen by "Update Time" and see a chronological list of what apps you installed when.
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Can i suggest the app "cpu spy"...
It wont tell you whats doin it but if you reset timers in cpu spy, turn your screen off and leave it say 10mins, turn on, open cpu spy, and restore timers.... if "deep sleep" isnt the biggest thing, you have a bad app.
Are u runnin Light Flow?
Juice Defender belongs in 2010 btw man soz
I started this thread to ask about those occasional days my phone drops 60% or 70% overnight. It appears it's been hijacked to address general batter drain so I guess I'll go with the flow.

So I changed it again yesterdan and unplugged before I went to bed. It was at about 80% this morning, so Google Now didn't seem to have a big influence. I then installed CPUSpy and let it sleep while I drove to work. Attached are the related screen shots. Maps still seems very high, considering I didn't open it at all. Other than that does anything look out of the ordinary?

Don't think I get the comment about JuiceDefender.
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Verizon !!??

This is a GSM problem!

Is your Settings/More Settings/Mobile Networks/Network Mode set to "Global" instead of "LTE/CDMA"?
I don't appear to have that option.

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In the super powerful Elixir2 app you can sort the "Applications" screen by "Update Time" and see a chronological list of what apps you installed when.
That's a cool app. Just installed it.

Sorted by Update Time:



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I started this thread to ask about those occasional days my phone drops 60% or 70% overnight. It appears it's been hijacked to address general batter drain so I guess I'll go with the flow.

So I changed it again yesterdan and unplugged before I went to bed. It was at about 80% this morning, so Google Now didn't seem to have a big influence. I then installed CPUSpy and let it sleep while I drove to work. Attached are the related screen shots. Maps still seems very high, considering I didn't open it at all. Other than that does anything look out of the ordinary?

Don't think I get the comment about JuiceDefender.
Sorry for the hijack. I thought the issues were similar and it didn't seem necessary to start yet another battery drain thread. But, I'll be happy to ping a mod and get the thread split if you'd like. I'm certainly not here to ruffle any feathers, just happy to have a knowledgable group of folks willing to lend a hand.
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Can i suggest the app "cpu spy"...
It wont tell you whats doin it but if you reset timers in cpu spy, turn your screen off and leave it say 10mins, turn on, open cpu spy, and restore timers.... if "deep sleep" isnt the biggest thing, you have a bad app.
Are u runnin Light Flow?
Juice Defender belongs in 2010 btw man soz
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. . . I then installed CPUSpy and let it sleep while I drove to work. Attached are the related screen shots. Maps still seemsd very high, considering I didn't open it at all. Other than that does anything look out of the ordinary? . . .

What shows in the details if you click on Maps in GSam? Maps is notorious for sucking large amounts of battery even when you aren't using it. Try disabling Maps temporarily.

What was the Total State Time on your CPU Spy stats? That stat is cut off at the bottom of your screenshot. The other CPU Spy stats show the phone in Deep Sleep most of the time, which is good.

But the GSam stats show the phone being held awake 4 hours out of the 8 hours, which is bad. Apparently the GSam stats were taken before the CPU Spy app was even started.

The GSam stats show high usage by the Kernel, which is bad. We need more info on the Kernel stats. If you click on the Kernel item in GSam stats what system processes are at the top of the detail list?
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I don't appear to have that option.
???

Could you please post screenshots of the APN Access Point Names and of your Settings/About Phone.
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Could you please post screenshots of the APN Access Point Names and of your Settings/About Phone.
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I don't appear to have that option.
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Are you running a stock Verizon S3 on *GSM*?
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Are you running a stock Verizon S3 on *GSM*?
Yes. I have made no modifications to this phone. Totally stock and Verizon approved.
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