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Old December 24th, 2012, 03:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It is in the forum rules. But sometimes we may no the answer is here but not have time to find it ourselves. Surely offering advice on the search term for a complicated issue is constructive
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It is in the forum rules. But sometimes we may no the answer is here but not have time to find it ourselves. Surely offering advice on the search term for a complicated issue is constructive
Exactly.

While it is easy to yell out "use the search noob", it's much more constructive to answer the question and refer the person to the search function next time and let them know that they can get an answer MUCH more quickly by doing this.
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I use the search before I post, but truthfully, it just doesn't always work well. So i'll post my question, just to have someone post a link to the answer or at least to another thread that discusses the same thing. making me feel like an idiot!

I think the ones that do this are usually the OP's of the original threads! LOL
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I agree. Search can be frustrating if you're unsure the answer is there but its less so when we know it is sometimes.
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The search function on this site leaves much to be desired.
However, a google search yields alot more results.
That being said, I think what makes this forum unlike another forum I have posted in, is the fact we don't scold people for not searching first.
As a guide, I was told it was o.k. to not search and just ask the question.
I can't tell you how many "I can't open a command prompt" questions I have answered.
Do most people search before asking? I would kinda hope so. I search before asking.
But I won't frown upon the member who has not searched.
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I'm all for this! I agree that people need to search first but I don't get huffed up if they don't. I always find it funny when someone responds with 4 lines of "why don't you search noob??" rants, when one line could have already answered the question!
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I agree. I try to search through Google. The search function within a forum can be aggravating especially when you get 5000 results that have nothing to do with what your looking for. Much easier to post, get in and get out and get your answer and move on. Trolls can make that process difficult though.
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It gets tiring answering the same questions all the time but kind of understandable too. Especially when someone's soft or hard bricked their phone. Panic ensues.
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It gets tiring answering the same questions all the time but kind of understandable too. Especially when someone's soft or hard bricked their phone. Panic ensues.
No one is holding a gun to your head, forcing you to post, either.

We were all noobs once...
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We were all noobs once...
Being a noob here I was worried like hell just because of how every other forum is. Full of know it all assholes. Luckily AF is the exception and is very strict and everyone was great through my process of learning. You can only pay it forward to keep it just as easy for the new guys cause I'm sure they are just as worried as I was.
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As great a resource as this is, I often find it quicker to do a general google search with the desired key words. Usually lots of good results from various forums
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Try reading past my first sentence, because in case you didn't know. We're advocating the same thing.
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Try reading past my first sentence, because in case you didn't know. We're advocating the same thing.
So this thread turns ugly? Never would have expected that!!

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We're advocating the same thing.
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I'm all for this! I agree that people need to search first but I don't get huffed up if they don't. I always find it funny when someone responds with 4 lines of "why don't you search noob??" rants, when one line could have already answered the question!
Thats why i prefer this forum to XDA all u get on xda is people screaming at new posters.
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It gets tiring answering the same questions all the time but kind of understandable too. Especially when someone's soft or hard bricked their phone. Panic ensues.
Answer the question once, subscribe to the post without mail notification (bookmark it basically) and just copy / paste the link to the original thread where you answered it the first time

That way you still answer if you so desire without having to retype everything.
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Like my 13 year old daughter told me .... if Google doesnt have the answer .... It isnt a REAL question.
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Like my 13 year old daughter told me .... if Google doesnt have the answer .... It isnt a REAL question.
She is so right .. shocking how many people still don't know how to use google ... even if I don't have a clue - sometimes I google myself and it is usually amongst the first 5 hits ..
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She is so right .. shocking how many people still don't know how to use google ... even if I don't have a clue - sometimes I google myself and it is usually amongst the first 5 hits ..
Yeah Ill be at work and Ill tell my buddy to.........I dont know, see how much Verizon's termination fee is. (Example) And he'll go to Verizon's site and moap around for 10 minutes trying to find it and I'm like DUDE! Just google that ish.

Makes no sense to me. When I have a question, ANY question, Google is the first thing I think of. Even a song name. All you need is 3 words out of the song and you can easily find it. Even something as complex as having a specific problem. Type out your problem as if you were asking a professional into the search and you will find where someone else has asked the SAME question in some form or another. "Nexus Android When my phone first turns on, it blinks several times and freezes up and I have to pull the battery out. How can I fix this?" Google will find and match ALL of those words you just entered and will find where that same questions was asked somewhere else.

But Google also spawns the "Google Genius'" who think they know everything just because they can find the answer through a search engine. Finding the answer and then answering it randomly a year later when asked is different though. Haha.
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f someone post a question that can obviously be found with a simple Google search, I sometimes can't resist using LMGTFY!

Then post the link as the answer to their question like this:

The best Android forum?
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f someone post a question that can obviously be found with a simple Google search, I sometimes can't resist using LMGTFY!

Then post the link as the answer to their question like this:

The best Android forum?
Yeah I got a stern warning about using LMGTFY here. It was just too easy sometimes but I've learned my lesson.
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google works well if you know what search terms to put in and some people just don't. especially if you are trying to describe your problem into google search.
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I can see both sides of the argument, especially that google is your friend, but it seems like you shouldn't have to google something about android if you're a member of a forum dedicated to android. What is the point of being a member of this forum if you're just going to use google instead of inquiring of this helpful community and make the most of its accumulated knowledge and wisdom?

I also have to concede that sometimes using google will identify the very androidforums post that will answer your question...
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I can see both sides of the argument, especially that google is your friend, but it seems like you shouldn't have to google something about android if you're a member of a forum dedicated to android. What is the point of being a member of this forum if you're just going to use google instead of inquiring of this helpful community and make the most of its accumulated knowledge and wisdom?

I also have to concede that sometimes using google will identify the very androidforums post that will answer your question...
The answer to this goes back to what we were talking about earlier and that's the search functions within a forum can be very confusing and can sometimes not yield the search results you want. Even when it's a common question you can get 5000 replies that have nothing to do with it.

So that's how using Google to search with came up. Most of the time I search for a phone related question, AF is one of the first choices so I will end right back at AF regardless. Google's search is just easier than forum searches especially for people that aren't computer savvy.
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re the above posts, I sometimes think that posters are simply hoping that someone else will do the leg-work for them but, when I think about it, the only times I do the searching for them is when I remember that the topic has been discussed before and I have a good idea what search words to use. Having said that, there are times when it's very clear what to search for, such as when it's a query about a named app. In those cases, whether I reply or not depends on my mood.
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