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Old March 14th, 2013, 06:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Right then, with that over with.

Who is watching the live feed? it's about to start!
I am... and its a terrible, cheesy presentation. Why can't they just get on with it, all this Hollywood flim flam is beyond the joke

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This is so hard to watch. Terrible, cheesy acting


Edit- turning it off. Ill get online in half an hour and read a spec sheet.
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This is so hard to watch. Terrible, cheesy acting

I've given up...best quote so far " I feel like I'm at the bad Oscars"
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I'm giving up. If they saved something interesting for the end I'll read it in the morning.
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Just watched the Samsung S IV presentation online, and am wondering what people thought of it.

Some initial thoughts:

- The humour felt forced and often fell flat.
- Dead crowd. Almost no cheering, clapping, or crowd sounds/interaction.
- The little kid was great.
- A bit short on hardware 'wow' factors, or perhaps the hardware side felt underrepresented - wish they had spent more time on this. Lots of software info that I'll probably never use.
- Like the S translate: can see myself using that.
- 'Chinese' is not a language. It's mostly Mandarin or Cantonese.
- The whole presentation felt very Hollywood. Not sure if it's my thing.

- Like that the S IV is actually smaller than the S3
- Like that it has an IR sensor, so can use phone as remote. Wish more phones offered this built in.
- Like that it has additional sensors (thermometer...).
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I liked it more for the presentation than the actual device.
Thought it was different and entertaining- not mind blowing entertainment- just fun.
Jeremy was cute. I smiled when he walked out on stage.
Wish they had spent more time on hardware & specks- they overdid it on the software side.
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Haven't seen it yet, but knowing how much people love the s3, I can only imagine how the s4 will fly off the shelves.

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Default Just watched the S4 unveil in NY. Total let down.

I just watched the Galaxy S 4 unveil in New York City Times Square. I must say it is a total let down. Although there are many new improvements to TouchWiz, none are significant and none will be used in daily life to be realistic. It's safe to say that I will be using my galaxy s3 for a long time to come. At what I was so excited to see, turned out to be a total let down.
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I am... and its a terrible, cheesy presentation. Why can't they just get on with it, all this Hollywood flim flam is beyond the joke
A little worse than last years, bit over the top due to it being in New York.

Not much talk if any about the new Exynos SoC which you would have thought they would want to show off.
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I had to turn it off once the kid started tap dancing .


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The United States is probably going to get the plain quad-core CPU version. Crap.
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It wasn't bad, bit more entertaining than others I've seen.

Not much confirmed about the hardware though, but that's normal I guess.

S translate looks very cool.
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Numerically:

Presentation: 1/10 rating
Software: 4/10 rating
Hardware: 3/10 rating
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How can we see the presentation?
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I really am glad that I have my Nexus 4 now.

The event was pretty...funny? I feel like the Apple board were probably laughing a little.
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As opposed to the dual quadcore version?
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As opposed to the dual quadcore version?
Yeah...
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The quad is no slouch. Either one will be gravy
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The presentation gave me a headache. End of story
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Samsung Galaxy S4 Presentation UNPACKED 2013 [FULL SHOW] - YouTube


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I understand, the quad-core edition of the phone will be no slouch. But it seems that when Samsung makes a new phone, there's two editions; the uber-powerful phone and then the bastard child of a phone. And of course, the US gets the bastard child of a phone.

Why can't the US get the high-end phone? What are we? Chopped liver?
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I liked the phone presentation. I am looking forward to owning the device as it is an upgrade over my Razr Maxx. I see a lot of people complaining about it though so I am having a few second thoughts. I like the screen size and the camera as well as the S translate. The phone is going to be nice in my opinion. I did not like the Hollywood presentation.
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I understand, the quad-core edition of the phone will be no slouch. But it seems that when Samsung makes a new phone, there's two editions; the uber-powerful phone and then the bastard child of a phone. And of course, the US gets the bastard child of a phone.

Why can't the US get the high-end phone? What are we? Chopped liver?
Yeah. Gotta respectfully disagree here.

For the SGS3, they got a quad of A-9 architecture, the US got a dual of Kraits, basically A-15 class.

That was done because of parts availability to satisfy LTE needs. The S4 in the SGS3 had a world modem that included everything needed for all US frequencies, all carriers - that meant lower parts count, lower cost, higher reliability, and some benchmarks being ok on one, not on the other. DESPITE what some claim, performance wasn't hugely different.

Now, the Snapdragon 600 Krait processors are 15% more clock-cycle efficient (read: faster) than in the S4 cores used last year.

Either processor - the Exynos dual-quadcore, or the Snapdragon 600, will max out at 4 A-15 cores running at once, tops.

You're free to believe that last year you got chopped liver and it's a repeat this year - but it's not what's in the silicon.

Hope this helps.
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But I thought moar cores mean better.

In some ways, I think that Samsung hyped the phone too much. So much so that when it finally was unveiled, it didn't live fully up to the hype.

Does that mean that I won't buy it when it comes out? No, I will definitely buy it. There's no denying that I will buy it when it comes out.

It just seems that in some ways, we've been handed the Galaxy S3s to borrow from the Apple scene.
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I have not watched the presentation, but I think it will be an awesome experience. Can't to go home and watch it.
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But I thought moar cores mean better.
Sometimes it does.

If the power savings promise comes true for the Exynos dual-quadcore thanks to its A-7 quad compared to the Snapdragon 600, then moar cores will be the winner.

I think that we need us users to report on that after we get them to know the truth.

Otherwise, it's just my opinion that no one buying an SGS4 of any kind is getting the choppy liver.
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Is that why they do this in NYC with the boardway acting? It is really weird.
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Is that why they do this in NYC with the boardway acting? It is really weird.
Didn't you mention in some other threads how Samsung was going to swing this one right out of the park?
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It wasn't bad, bit more entertaining than others I've seen.

Not much confirmed about the hardware though, but that's normal I guess.

S translate looks very cool.
1. It was horrible. Let's be serious, you haven't seen other presentations. Google and Apple blew Samsung out of the water.

2. What isn't confirmed about hardware? They just announced everything. Stop making excuses for a horrid phone.

3. Gimmick.
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But we could have those Quadrant scores if we had the Octa-Core. *drool*
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But we could have those Quadrant scores if we had the Octa-Core. *drool*
HTC One got 12600 on Quadrant so it still beat the Octa-core S4.
Chinese leaks with the Snapdragon show the S4 with 7-8k on Quadrant which is worse than last year phones!
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HTC One got 12600 on Quadrant so it still beat the Octa-core S4.
Chinese leaks with the Snapdragon show the S4 with 7-8k on Quadrant which is worse than last year phones!
I'm going to say the same thing that I said when the Exynos beat the S4 processor last year on benchmarks -

They just don't matter.

Seriously - they rarely indicate a thing in the real world due to how we use our phones - and due to how apps and games are written.

So - which one are you getting do you think?

The SGS4 or the One?

So far, I think they're both great.

If anyone is here to get the One, no need to argue - come chat the positive in the One forum.

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I'm going to say the same thing that I said when the Exynos beat the S4 processor last year on benchmarks -

They just don't matter.

Seriously - they rarely indicate a thing in the real world due to how we use our phones - and due to how apps and games are written.

So - which one are you getting do you think?

The SGS4 or the One?

So far, I think they're both great.

If anyone is here to get the One, no need to argue - come chat the positive in the One forum.

If anyone is undecided, both places are great to post in.
Or there is another option, like ones like myself. Get whatever one comes to their respective carrier first, then probably get the other one later.

My wife hates me for my phones, lol.
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Or there is another option, like ones like myself. Get whatever one comes to their respective carrier first, then probably get the other one later.

My wife hates me for my phones, lol.
I came this > < close to getting the SGS3 last year on the same plan!

More power to you compadre, there are far worse vices than phones.
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I came this > < close to getting the SGS3 last year on the same plan!

More power to you compadre, there are far worse vices than phones.
And since I have to pay full retail to keep my unlimited data ( Verizon customer ) selling "this plan" to the wife is alot easier

But...but, honey Verizon made me do it
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Back to the presentation...

My 10 o clock news station reported on the S4 announcement and the tech reporter really shared similar thoughts on the poor presentation. He thought it was "way too contrived".
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I came this > < close to getting the SGS3 last year on the same plan!

More power to you compadre, there are far worse vices than phones.
I wish my only vice was phones...My tech rage is pretty wide spread towards tablets, laptops, large LED TV's, etc, etc....Why stop at phones...lmaoooo!

I even like the tech world of kitchen appliances...hahahaha...Not kidding either
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I wish my only vice was phones...My tech rage is pretty wide spread towards tablets, laptops, large LED TV's, etc, etc....Why stop at phones...lmaoooo!

I even like the tech world of kitchen appliances...hahahaha...Not kidding either


Don't tell me you switch refrigerators like you do smartphones
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Not that far...lol! I love my subzero and wouldn't trade it for anything else on the market right now!

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I have a Keurig machine, I love that machine. When I have a day off I must go through about five to six cups of coffee, the largest cup that the Platinum machine makes. And I ain't using weak coffee either.
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Yeah. Gotta respectfully disagree here.

For the SGS3, they got a quad of A-9 architecture, the US got a dual of Kraits, basically A-15 class.

That was done because of parts availability to satisfy LTE needs. The S4 in the SGS3 had a world modem that included everything needed for all US frequencies, all carriers - that meant lower parts count, lower cost, higher reliability, and some benchmarks being ok on one, not on the other. DESPITE what some claim, performance wasn't hugely different.

Now, the Snapdragon 600 Krait processors are 15% more clock-cycle efficient (read: faster) than in the S4 cores used last year.

Either processor - the Exynos dual-quadcore, or the Snapdragon 600, will max out at 4 A-15 cores running at once, tops.

You're free to believe that last year you got chopped liver and it's a repeat this year - but it's not what's in the silicon.

Hope this helps.
The quad core a7's offer significant power savings for the dual-quad core model.

Also it is yet to be determined how the GPU's in the two compare, which as far as I'm concerned, is one of the most important comparisons.
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Presentation - 5/10
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The quad core a7's offer significant power savings for the dual-quad core model.

Also it is yet to be determined how the GPU's in the two compare, which as far as I'm concerned, is one of the most important comparisons.
Agree 100% on the potential value of the A7 power savings, maybe I said that in a different thread.

Glad you mentioned GPU, those are tricky.

The Snapdragon doesn't use it for screen management or ui management like in the old days, so that leaves gaming as a good true measure. One of the HTC One reviews yesterday came out highly in favor of it for gaming, could not induce any lag there at all. I was surprised, usually they get marks like "almost." Hopefully, this is good news for users of either processor, I can't imagine Samsung getting the GPU wrong.

Some of that gaming lag for any phone has to include io lag, and if A15 class quads won't fix that, I don't know what will.

I know that you didn't mention gaming, I'm just framing a response in those terms as a possible point of interest.
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well. Haven's watched the presentation. anyway, I'm still impressed by all the features..~
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watching the presentation, wow, it's better than any movies I have ever watched.

S4 will be the phone of 2013.
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I have a Keurig machine, I love that machine. When I have a day off I must go through about five to six cups of coffee, the largest cup that the Platinum machine makes. And I ain't using weak coffee either.
I've been sucked into the world of Starbucks...lol

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Only watched a bit on youtube and funny how the audience was as excited as I was *yawn*
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Do I get a medal or something for having put up with the presentation TWICE???

I think Antimony nailed it: this show was intended for the mass audience of users. Problem is, most users don't watch product launches: we geeks do!

Show us the phone, give us the specs, tell us what it does and then you're done, Samsung. You could have saved a fortune. No tap dancing or Broadway-style hip-bumping required. Granted, the kid was good: but PUH-LEASE.

EDIT: The advances in this phone just get me stoked to see what's in store later this year. WOW!
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My impressions were that most of the actual audience were tech journos and bloggers (so yeah, geeks), and they didn't come across as too impressed.

As they're the people you want to generate buzz and coverage, tailoring the presentation to engage them would seem the smart move.

I'm sure it will sell well despite this presentation, but I can't see how that presentation would actually help.
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