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Old March 30th, 2013, 07:38 PM   #201 (permalink)
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Just being an Android fan in general, I was disappointed with the GS4. I like Android because of the variety in phone designs. So I was disappointed that the GS4 looks very similar to the GS3, especially since this is a flagship device. As a flagship device I think it should show the next evolutionary step in Samsung's design philosophy. I wanted to see something that was different enough.

I guess Samsung is in a position where they don't really have to innovate much. They have to advantage of brand loyalty from a large install base. They're name is already out there, so they won't need to advertise as much.

I think it's going to sell well, but maybe not like the GS3 did. I say that because, the HTC One looks great. And HTC One, also, will have the advantage of being at stores first. Also, the GS3 still is a good phone, and being that the GS4 looks similar, people may not be so motivated to upgrade. Like the iphone5, a lot of people bought it, but there were still a lot of people who stuck with the iphone4 because it's still a good phone. Who knows, people may confuse the GS3 for the new GS4 and buy the older phone because it's cheaper.

Also, Touchwiz is still there, and it's still looks as ugly as ever. They didn't even try.

The GS4 is a great phone, I just wish it was more interesting. There will be a good number of phones that will have the same level of performance, so each one will have to stand out in another way. I don't think the GS4 is going to stand out much.
This is exactly what I was trying to say in the original post.
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I am disappointed that it is not coming with the FM Radio.
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Just being an Android fan in general, I was disappointed with the GS4. I like Android because of the variety in phone designs.
That's because there are many manufactures, each has there own style.

Since you clearly don't care about the hardware, just decide based on how they look, since that's all that seems to be important to you.
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Old March 31st, 2013, 12:20 PM   #204 (permalink)
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That's because there are many manufactures, each has there own style.

Since you clearly don't care about the hardware, just decide based on how they look, since that's all that seems to be important to you.
He didn't say that, he said he cared about the design appearance.

Many people do. They happen to be entitled to their opinions without having snarky remarks based on words put into their mouths.

His last thought was that SGS4 was a great phone.

Stop attacking everyone who doesn't agree with your world view. Nobody died and made you king.
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Thank you EarlyMon for adding some sanity to this thread. Just because someone likes the design of this phone (which I do and I will in fact buy the phone) doesn't give you the right to call me stupid or some other bad thing.
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I've think that the new phone will be a real pleaser.
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I like Android because of the variety in phone designs. So I was disappointed that the GS4 looks very similar to the GS3, especially since this is a flagship device.
Since when is there a convention that flagship device must have a new design every generation? Does Macbook pro have a new design every year? All look exactly the same to me.

When company take a major design change, it is very risky, because they might turn of the large fan base they already have and there is no guarantee the product will attract new followers.
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Since when is there a convention that flagship device must have a new design every generation?
There isn't, but the pre-release bruhaha and teasers may have led people to expect something a little more overtly innovative.

Besides, the title of this topic is "Are any of you disappointed with the GS4?" so it shouldn't come as a surprise that some users answer in the affirmative and give their reason(s). That makes them no less right (or wrong) than any other's personal opinion. In an open discussion, all viewpoints have equal validity.
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He didn't say that, he said he cared about the design appearance.
The Earlymon has spoken so I'll drop it, like I have a choice.
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What else can you do to the design? They made the device a tad smaller and lighter, yet a bigger display and more powerful device... Seems pretty good to me.

I am not a fan of the rigid iPhone or One designs, since they do not handle drops as well as the plastic design of the Galaxy. The difference is not huge, but there is a difference.

Mine will get a clamshell case with built-in stand anyway, so the general design is moot for me.

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Well, that all said, I would prefer if it had a separate hdmi out. Not a fan of the the current type.
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What else can you do to the design? They made the device a tad smaller and lighter, yet a bigger display and more powerful device... Seems pretty good to me.

I am not a fan of the rigid iPhone or One designs, since they do not handle drops as well as the plastic design of the Galaxy. The difference is not huge, but there is a difference.

Mine will get a clamshell case with built-in stand anyway, so the general design is moot for me.

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Well, that all said, I would prefer if it had a separate hdmi out. Not a fan of the the current type.
Agreed, I quite like the design - I find the s3 more comfortable to hold than an iPhone due to the curved edges.
I don't mind the mhl adapter for the hdmi but it'd be better if you didn't have to plug the charger into it.
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When it came out, they said you wouldn't have to with the new Sammy TVs.

Problem we have is we're all still on HDMI.

Plus my old HDMI phone sucked power and needed plugging in anyway. My latest one charges via MHL while I watch, so there's good with the bad.
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I wouldn't be disappointed in any of the 2013 phones. Until KLP goes live and newer phones comes out while I'm still waiting for the carriers and OEM to finish mucking around before they update the last ones. Rinse and repeat.

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When it came out, they said you wouldn't have to with the new Sammy TVs.

Problem we have is we're all still on HDMI.

Plus my old HDMI phone sucked power and needed plugging in anyway. My latest one charges via MHL while I watch, so there's good with the bad.
I do not like it due to the integrated tech does not work well with LTE due to signal interference. No problem if separate. My Razr worked perfectly with LTE. Used to stream Netflix with it on a big display. LTE does not work with the GS3 and the MHL (video goes in and out every few seconds), so either slow 3G or wifi.

Unless Samsung came up with a new shielding design, I see no reason why this will work either.
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The RF pathways in the SGS4 are completely different.
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What else can you do to the design? They made the device a tad smaller and lighter, yet a bigger display and more powerful device... Seems pretty good to me.

I am not a fan of the rigid iPhone or One designs, since they do not handle drops as well as the plastic design of the Galaxy. The difference is not huge, but there is a difference.

Mine will get a clamshell case with built-in stand anyway, so the general design is moot for me.

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Well, that all said, I would prefer if it had a separate hdmi out. Not a fan of the the current type.
Hmm, wasn't the sgs3 known as one of the easiest screens to break?
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Hmm, wasn't the sgs3 known as one of the easiest screens to break?

Not that I am aware of. iPhone and Razr seem to take that biscuit.
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Not that I am aware of. iPhone and Razr seem to take that biscuit.
Sgs3 and iPhone 4 own that pedestal as far as I have heard. Though I could be wrong. I just always have seen people moving from the evo lte (one x variant) to the sgs3 get warned that sgs3's screen would be more fragile.

My point is more that the case material probably has nothing to do with it.

Sort of a moot point anyway as they are all fragile and will break if they land the wrong way.
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I'm disappointed that I don't have one... yet

Once that beautiful Super Amoled screen fires up in its full HD glory, deep blacks and corrected color palette, I won't care if they made the body out of paper mache.
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That's because there are many manufactures, each has there own style.

Since you clearly don't care about the hardware, just decide based on how they look, since that's all that seems to be important to you.
Wow, some big jumps there on my opinions.

If by hardware, you mean CPU, GPU, and RAM, I assume that both, being flagship devices have great hardware. Both phones are comparable in power, so I focus on physical design.

For the record, if I'm not being clear, I don't hate Samsung, I don't hate the GS4. But touchwiz.... I don't like touchwiz. If they weren't going to change much of the physical design, I would have hoped they change the software design.
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There isn't, but the pre-release bruhaha and teasers may have led people to expect something a little more overtly innovative.

Besides, the title of this topic is "Are any of you disappointed with the GS4?" so it shouldn't come as a surprise that some users answer in the affirmative and give their reason(s). That makes them no less right (or wrong) than any other's personal opinion. In an open discussion, all viewpoints have equal validity.
Yeah, a new phone pulled out from a mysterious box to ultimately look like cross between the GS3 and Note 2. The build up suggested otherwise, that's all.
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For the record, if I'm not being clear, I don't hate Samsung, I don't hate the GS4. But touchwiz.... I don't like touchwiz. If they weren't going to change much of the physical design, I would have hoped they change the software design.
Imo Sense is much worse than touchwiz and Sony have nothing in software design either. Samsung bring loads of tricks with smart features in software, much more than anyone else, and physical looks is just for fashion freaks .

Touchwiz used to be horrible, now it is mostly improvements over vanilla Android.
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For the record, if I'm not being clear, I don't hate Samsung, I don't hate the GS4. But touchwiz.... I don't like touchwiz. If they weren't going to change much of the physical design, I would have hoped they change the software design.
I'm not a fan of touchwiz either, it wastes allot of space on the homescreen, that's why I use Nova Launcher and use stock icons. Applications I don't need, including Samsung system apps I remove.

At the end of the day this is Android, you can customize the interface. Want a completely different interface? no problem, install a launcher or a custom rom, there will be loads to choose from.

I wouldn't assume the hardware is equal just because they are flagship devices, that's not always the case.

As for the physical design, it's completely subjective so there is little point discussing it.
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Wow, some big jumps there on my opinions.

If by hardware, you mean CPU, GPU, and RAM, I assume that both, being flagship devices have great hardware. Both phones are comparable in power, so I focus on physical design.

For the record, if I'm not being clear, I don't hate Samsung, I don't hate the GS4. But touchwiz.... I don't like touchwiz. If they weren't going to change much of the physical design, I would have hoped they change the software design.
Is it possible to have all the samsung features (smart stay, hover touch, direct call, s mind reader etc) without the rest of touch wiz?
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Is it possible to have all the samsung features (smart stay, hover touch, direct call, s mind reader etc) without the rest of touch wiz?

Not really, if you root they might be able to debloat it some, but the framework would have to stay the same for the other features to work if I not mistaken, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Imo Sense is much worse than touchwiz and Sony have nothing in software design either. Samsung bring loads of tricks with smart features in software, much more than anyone else, and physical looks is just for fashion freaks .

Touchwiz used to be horrible, now it is mostly improvements over vanilla Android.
I'm not sure what you love about TouchWiz looks-wise? I feel like it'd be better if you could have the smart features but also a vanilla UI.
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Vanilla Android is pretty devoid of features. It doesn't have much as far as value-added functionality. There's a reason why skins like TouchWiz exist, to add to an overall boring look.

I have owned a Galaxy Nexus for some now and vanilla Android is just that, basic Android and nothing else. You practically have to run a third-party ROM to get the extra features that Google left out.
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I'd take aosp over touchwiz anyday. Its faster, smoother, and lighter.

Cudtom skins don't exist because there's something wring with aosp. Custom skins exist because manufacturers are trying to distance themselves from each other.
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I'd take aosp over touchwiz anyday. Its faster, smoother, and lighter.
Lighter, yes. But touchwiz is just as fast and smooth.

Until Google got their act together with jellybean Touchwiz was faster and smoother, with the exception of the original Galaxy S though which had issues, which were nothing to do with touchwiz.
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The S4 loses the spec war vs Sony and HTC.
Sadly, we're not getting the HTC One on Verizon any time soon, so, I'll probably have to go with the S4 as the next best option.
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Very disssapointed with the look of the phone. It should have been as sleek & nice looking like the HTC One, I relly loike the look of the phone. samsung should have done the same & revamped the look of the GS4, bad move Sammie.Although I have one more year left on my contract i'll be waiting to see what will be out by than or what the GS5 will be looking like.
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I wish it wasn't so big. If I wanted a big ass phone, I'd get a Note 2.
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I wish it wasn't so big. If I wanted a big ass phone, I'd get a Note 2.
But it's slightly smaller than the s3? Or do you also think that's too big?
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But it's slightly smaller than the s3? Or do you also think that's too big?

Is it? I didn't know that. I haven't seen overall dimensions, just the screen size. I do think the S3 is big, but not too big. I would NOT want a phone bigger than that. I'm petite, very small hands, and I also carry my phone in my back pocket. My S2 and Atrix HD both already hang out of my pocket. Pockets are little on women's pants!
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Is it? I didn't know that. I haven't seen overall dimensions, just the screen size. I do think the S3 is big, but not too big. I would NOT want a phone bigger than that. I'm petite, very small hands, and I also carry my phone in my back pocket. My S2 and Atrix HD both already hang out of my pocket. Pockets are little on women's pants!
I think it's very slightly smaller, but probably not that noticeable. I thought women carry their phones on their handbags, or is that a massive generalisation? If so, sorry! (I may get a man bag!)
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I think it's very slightly smaller, but probably not that noticeable. I thought women carry their phones on their handbags, or is that a massive generalisation? If so, sorry! (I may get a man bag!)

I rarely put mine in my purse. I can't hear it in there, I can never find it, etc. Plus there are a lot of times I won't have my purse on me for hours at a time.
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Unless you can't find your TV remote, who would use their phone as a remote over actual TV remote??
To screw with your friends TV of course

I'm considering getting the S4. The 1080 Amoled,crazy fast processor, and super sensitive screen is enough for me. I just sold a HTC One x plus and couldn't sell it fast enough. I don't like Sense! It's resource hungry and slows down the phone considerably compared to Touchwiz or especially a Nexus device.

A lot of people said that the Note 2 was just a big S3, in aesthetics it was, but in reality it is a far superior device. It's smooth as butter, but its humongous. The 5" is a tad big for some but sounds perfect for me.
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A lot of people said that the Note 2 was just a big S3, in aesthetics it was, but in reality it is a far superior device. It's smooth as butter, but its humongous. The 5" is a tad big for some but sounds perfect for me.
Far superior device? They use the same SoC with a 200MHz advantage and 1GB more memory(compared to GT-9300, US variants and GT-9305 also have 2GB RAM), that's pretty much it with regards to performance. Exaggerate much?

Or are you comparing to the US versions? even so it's just not the case anyway.
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Please visit the United States and use a US SGS3 next to a US Note 2 rather than berate people for exaggeration because of the almighty benchmarks that you've read about.

The Note 2 here is better by a long shot. The display still pops but the color balance is far better, and just using it for a few minutes will make its superior speed and fluidity obvious.

Experience always trumps internet theory.
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Please visit the United States and use a US SGS3 next to a US Note 2 rather than berate people for exaggeration because of the almighty benchmarks that you've read about.

The Note 2 here is better by a long shot. The display still pops but the color balance is far better, and just using it for a few minutes will make its superior speed and fluidity obvious.

Experience always trumps internet theory.
My bad, clearly Exynos 4412 is far superior to the Dual Core S4 version of the S3.
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Explain it however makes you happy.

They say that often things like glue logic and kernels and board wiring play a significant role in system performance, but what do they know, right? They probably don't even know how the Exynos improved the display either. Maybe they'll come up with a benchmark for that!
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I think we are at the point where we all need to actually have the device ourselves to derive good or bad points. I already know the device will be speedy and have a nice display. The biggie for me is if the radio chipset has been improved or not. Samsung seems to take baby steps in that regard.
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What else can you do to the design? They made the device a tad smaller and lighter, yet a bigger display and more powerful device... Seems pretty good to me.

I agree, pretty nice.

If people think about the iPhone, the iPhone 5 looks a little like the iPhone 4 and iPhone 3 and even the original iPhone. It's Apple look.

I would not mind if Samsung decided to go this route with the shape and look of the Galaxy Sx from now on so people would know just by a quick glance, thats a Samsung Galaxy Sx, the same as they can with an iPhone.
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I'm torn.

At the time of the launch I was pretty unimpressed with the S 4, and I've been salivating over the DNA. Now that I see the greatly superior battery and expandable memory I lean more towards the S4.

Even though the DNA is beautiful.

Either way it will be a huge upgrade from my Droid X.

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When I was in the Palm world I had one Palm, actually a Sony Clie, that was also a TV remote. More of a gimmick than anything else, but it was fun to play with or to use in places like hospital waiting rooms.
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Hey there.........

I was using a Droid X for a couple of years and love that phone. I upgraded to the HTC One X and after the S3 came out, the wife has the One X and I have been using the S3 for a year now.
Do not hesitate IMHO at least. The S4 will be an awesome upgrade from the Droid X
S3 to the S4 ???? I am still trying to make that decision. Will go to the AT&T store and check it out when it is released. The fit, feel and screen will be my final decision
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Fit and feel? Exactly like the S3.

Screen? Stunning. It's still as over-saturated as my S2 on default settings and I forgot to check for optional display modes in the short time I had with it, but overall the display has a huge "wow!" factor.

Some may see the above as negatives, but the handset is literally ALL screen - the bezel is miniscule. Pretty darn impressive, Samsung.
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Coming from my SGS2 I'm only disappointed in the removal of FM radio.

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Actually, having the hardware to control IR devices is great. I'm hoping to see an app for Android that I can use on my Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 and the S4 that has the features of the Universal Remote MX-3000 (a remote that was based on Windows Pocket PC 10+ years ago for $1000) that I used while learning to program it and in turn train/assist the install techs at a local home theater store. I've missed that remote since they stopped carrying it and I had to return it. The remote was a full entertainment center controller with macro and variable support.
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I am now disapointed that Samsung chose to launch too early, so all they are offering is a device with so much bells, whistles and bloat that only about 9.5gb of storage is actually available for the user. If any device needed a 32gb as an option- it is this one.

Well, whatever the actual free storage is minus the Android operational floor of 500mb. If you go below that, you can not update apps and some funtions start acting funky.
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Just for info............ I now have a 16gb S3. It has, after what the phone uses, 11.95gb internal storage available. Of that 11.95gb I have 7.35gb free space available to me.
I have 268 apps loaded on my phone including: 5 Angry birds Games, Epic Citadel, HD Widgets, Maps, Office Suite, Poker king Pro, Real Racing 3, 3 Temple Run Games, just to name a few, and 10 downloaded pictures, 72 camera pictures (all full res), 164 blue tooth files including 6 large You Tube files, 35 wallpapers, 9 screenshots, and 489 pictures.
All of this is using my INTERNAL memory. My 16gb external SD card has tons of music and such on it. That also has almost 10GB free space!
I know everyone is different in what they need for storage, but I consider myself a phone freak and have lots of stuff on my phone at any one time. 16GB is MORE than enough for me!
I suppose most of those buying the 16gb iPhones, 16gb Nexus phones and the 16gb HTC One have enough space also
I think 16gb is more than enough for most of us. Some will indeed need more
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Fit and feel? Exactly like the S3.

Screen? Stunning. It's still as over-saturated as my S2 on default settings and I forgot to check for optional display modes in the short time I had with it, but overall the display has a huge "wow!" factor.

Some may see the above as negatives, but the handset is literally ALL screen - the bezel is miniscule. Pretty darn impressive, Samsung.
Lots of people like me actually prefer the "over saturated" colors of the Smasung screen. My S3 looks awesome to me
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