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Old May 22nd, 2013, 09:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I noticed that the Verizon removed some of the GS4 features that other carriers left in place. The first one is the Wi-Fi toggle in the settings menu. I don't know why they would remove it except to encourage people to leave Wi-Fi on. Thankfully it can still be disabled, but it takes an extra step. The other is Blocking Mode, where you can disable ringers and notifications during certain times of the day (like when you're sleeping at night). I wish they left that one in there. Has anyone noticed any other differences?

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i noticed the same
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Why would they remove blocking mode?? I was looking forward to using that. I also tried the trick that worked with the Verizon Note 2 but it didn't work. What's with Verizon! Seems so strange they would nitpick like that.

I also really don't like that persistent Wifi notification. Oh well. Loving the phone so far otherwise.
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 11:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Loving this phone as well but also wish these features came with the verizon S4's. I'll definitely be rooting the phone and installing custom roms when they become available.
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Unreal, I am so close to switching back to AT&T because thy keep doing stuff like this
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There are plenty of scheduling apps in the Play Store that can do what you described Blocking Mode doing. I use Tasker, but there are plenty of others (Llama and Timeriffic come to mind - I used the latter back in 2010).

Does seem a strange thing to remove though.
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This is insane. Why on earth would Verizon removed a toggle for wifi? That makes no sense. The effort of removing it would be more than any possible gain they could hope to achieve.

Does anyone know why they would do that? I can't even make up a poor reason to removed it.

This ticks me off because I figured out that 16gb (9) will be plenty of storage for how I use my phone and was going to head to Verizon and grab an S4 after work. Removing something as basic as a wifi toggle is so far in left field, I'm gobsmacked.
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Hmm, that is very strange. But Verizon has some strange obsession with meddling with the wifi settings, case in point the annoying wifi popups.
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Is there still the power control widget available? If so, that includes a wifi toggle.
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No, the power control widget is missing too. I don't know if that was done by Samsung or Verizon.

While there are ways around these things, it's still frustrating that Verizon would remove them. I'm planning on jumping to T-Mobile when my contract is up and buying phones that haven't been carrier-customized.
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Why would they remove blocking mode?? I was looking forward to using that. I also tried the trick that worked with the Verizon Note 2 but it didn't work. What's with Verizon! Seems so strange they would nitpick like that.

I also really don't like that persistent Wifi notification. Oh well. Loving the phone so far otherwise.
That sucks. I was also looking forward to that. Oh well . . .
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Hmm, that is very strange. But Verizon has some strange obsession with meddling with the wifi settings, case in point the annoying wifi popups.

My guess is their wifi intrusion efforts are a buffer from any future consumer litigation and to also guide unlimited data users to use wifi. At some point, there probably will be consumer and internet provider pushback.

Consumers: 4G, streaming content and clouds with small data caps do not mix. Oil and water. Carriers and content providers are pushing MORE data use, but the data caps are nuts low. Just one or two movies can bust a cap. Carriers know and expect this and expect it on their P&L. Sad to eat your data cap on your OWN content in the cloud, but happens all the time.

Internet providers: There is about to be a sea change on the data bottleneck landscape known as the Xbox One and PS4. Both are going to be using a lot more data downloads and the Xbox One will apparently require most games to be downloaded. Even compressed, you are looking at 12 to 20GB for main releases, depending on the title for next gen devices.

Something has to give here.
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My guess is their wifi intrusion efforts are a buffer from any future consumer litigation and to also guide unlimited data users to use wifi. At some point, there probably will be consumer and internet provider pushback.

Consumers: 4G, streaming content and clouds with small data caps do not mix. Oil and water. Carriers and content providers are pushing MORE data use, but the data caps are nuts low. Just one or two movies can bust a cap. Carriers know and expect this and expect it on their P&L. Sad to eat your data cap on your OWN content in the cloud, but happens all the time.

Internet providers: There is about to be a sea change on the data bottleneck landscape known as the Xbox One and PS4. Both are going to be using a lot more data downloads and the Xbox One will apparently require most games to be downloaded. Even compressed, you are looking at 12 to 20GB for main releases, depending on the title for next gen devices.

Something has to give here.
It's true. Some broadband providers have put data caps in place and I expect more will come. It's going to be a rough time ahead for consumers until either consumers finally stand up for themselves, or the government steps in.
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I'm not surprised. They did this with the GS3 too.
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It's true. Some broadband providers have put data caps in place and I expect more will come. It's going to be a rough time ahead for consumers until either consumers finally stand up for themselves, or the government steps in.
That usually does not turn out good either.
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Blocking mode,

Does this work? How to: Enable “Blocking Mode” on Verizon’s Galaxy Note 2 – Droid Life

I just got a VZW S4, but setting it up now, won't be able to try until later. Let us know if that works!
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Did I miss something? Can someone tell me how to scroll through gallery pictures using hand gestures? Maybe I am just not doing it right.

Edit: Found it...I just need to learn the phone. LOL
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Blocking mode,

Does this work? How to: Enable “Blocking Mode” on Verizon’s Galaxy Note 2 – Droid Life

I just got a VZW S4, but setting it up now, won't be able to try until later. Let us know if that works!
Doesn't appear to work. Downloaded the app and searched for "Blocking Mode" but nothing came up. They must have fully removed it on the GS4. Unless it's got a different name?
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Yeah, just searched a few variants, and nothing obvious.

Ok, on my note2 I ran Cleanrom, and bluetooth worked, and it didn't on the stock rom. Scott's cleanrom when attempting to pair, had me put in the passcode manually and it worked.



Same issue here with the S4... any ideas?
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Doesn't appear to work. Downloaded the app and searched for "Blocking Mode" but nothing came up. They must have fully removed it on the GS4. Unless it's got a different name?
Hmm.. interesting. Verizon blocked "Blocking Mode" on my GS3 and using Quick Shortcut Maker worked.
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Hmm.. interesting. Verizon blocked "Blocking Mode" on my GS3 and using Quick Shortcut Maker worked.
They probably just hid it on the GS3. On the GS4, it appears to be removed from the rom entirely (from what I can tell).
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Any way to remove that annoying persistent WIFI notification? You know, the one that tells you WIFI connections are available... and then when you ARE connected via WIFI, it still shows the notification saying you are connected.

They did this on the GS3, but I think there was a work-around, though I think you may have needed to be rooted?

Thank goodness there's a root method available and a work-around for the bootloader already. I'm going to wait a few days to make sure the tools are stable.

Any way to make sure we don't accidentally update the firmware on this phone while we are non-rooted? Does it automatically download and update by itself?
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It looks like Verizon has also removed the option for the continuous scroll of the homepages. I've been told other varients of the S4 still have it and my S3 had it. I don't understand why they feel it necessary to remove such a benign feature that a lot of us had gotten used to having. To paraphrase Ricky Riccardo; Splain it to me, Verizon.

I hope I don't start regretting this upgrade. That would really be a shame.
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Can someone explain this persistent wifi notification better? Like a notification on the top left that won't go away?
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Can someone explain this persistent wifi notification better? Like a notification on the top left that won't go away?
Verizon has done it on many of their phones if memory serves correctly.

It constantly informs you if you are/aren't on wifi

Typically in the statusbar
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Verizon has done it on many of their phones if memory serves correctly.

It constantly informs you if you are/aren't on wifi

Typically in the statusbar
Ugh, that won't do for me. So if you drag down, does it not show that instead of the toggle buttons? Can you not long press on it, press app info, and uncheck show notifications like with regular apps?
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Try an app called AnyCut for blocking mode and for wifi try Notification
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Did you actually try that on a VZW S4?

I could not find blocking mode using the second app either, Any Cut. I tried a random one, a shortcut, and it immediately crashed. This was much earlier today, lulz.

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Lacking the VZW S4 feature to turn off the menu lights while using Netflix.

Surprised that nobody noticed this yet... .play a movie, bottom lights stay on and never go off. Pinteresting.
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Are you confirming that notification toggle works to take the wifi notification off? Or were you just asking for someone to try it?
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I haven't been able to get this to work with the Blocking Mode or WiFi Notification issues, but there is a free app called 'Quick Shortcut Maker' which allows you to create a shortcut on your homepage for certain functions which may not be listed in the Settings menus. You can type in a keyword and it will bring up options for you to test to see if it does what you want.

On both my S3 and the S4, I've used it to make a shortcut for the Task Manager so I can quickly check for open apps, etc. On the S3, I used it to create shortcuts for NFC and S-Beam which did not have toggles. Maybe it can help with some of the missing features on the S4.
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Why would they remove blocking mode?? I was looking forward to using that. I also tried the trick that worked with the Verizon Note 2 but it didn't work. What's with Verizon! Seems so strange they would nitpick like that.

I also really don't like that persistent Wifi notification. Oh well. Loving the phone so far otherwise.
Go to WiFi settings and uncheck the box for WiFi notification, very easy to do.
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i dont have the toggle for wifi on the scroll across the top, with all the other stuff that pops up on the scroll across, (gps, etc)

But when I drag down the status bar, its always and option, on its own, turn wifi on or off.
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Two times, people are recommending something that's been already suggested and verified as not working.

Those people aren't just not reading, they aren't trying

Anyone have insight on if anyone is looking at moving blocking mode from another S4 version? They would be a hero.... could even be as simple as an apk that exists on something like a sprint version.
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I noticed that the Verizon removed some of the GS4 features that other carriers left in place. The first one is the Wi-Fi toggle in the settings menu. I don't know why they would remove it except to encourage people to leave Wi-Fi on. Thankfully it can still be disabled, but it takes an extra step. The other is Blocking Mode, where you can disable ringers and notifications during certain times of the day (like when you're sleeping at night). I wish they left that one in there. Has anyone noticed any other differences?
And here I was thinking I was missing Verizon a bit. Thank you for reminding me....
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