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Old June 24th, 2013, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Planning on buying a GS4 (or HTC One or Iphone 5 depending on which has the best battery life). If I turn off the extra features like the air waving crap and only use my phone for basic things (texting, checking email, one 5 minute call a day) plus auto syncing email, gchat, and streaming music for 2-3 hours a day, how long can I expect the battery to last?

I plan on un-overclocking the processor and using auto brightness.

Extra question: If anyone knows, how would HTC One/Iphone compare if I use them similarly?

Note: I apologize in advance if this has been discussed before. I've searched the GS4 forum here and searched the entire forum using google and couldn't find anything on how long the battery will last without extra features.

Edit: If it matters, I plan on using 4G LTE with T-Mobile

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Planning on buying a GS4 (or HTC One or Iphone 5 depending on which has the best battery life). If I turn off the extra features like the air waving crap and only use my phone for basic things (texting, checking email, one 5 minute call a day) plus auto syncing email, gchat, and streaming music for 2-3 hours a day, how long can I expect the battery to last?

I plan on un-overclocking the processor and using auto brightness.

Extra question: If anyone knows, how would HTC One/Iphone compare if I use them similarly?

Note: I apologize in advance if this has been discussed before. I've searched the GS4 forum here and searched the entire forum using google and couldn't find anything on how long the battery will last without extra features.

Edit: If it matters, I plan on using 4G LTE with T-Mobile
The S4 has a bigger battery than the one but also a larger screen. So, I would expect battery life to be reasonably similar.

S4 is the only one with user replaceable battery.
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Reviews by websites such as cnet or engadget don't seem to mention what apps they have running in the background or auto update/sync services, which can really affect battery life
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Just spend your $5 for juice defender ultimate and you'll never EVER give battery life another thought.
And you will never EVER receive an important email on time again!
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Huh? I have juice defender and I get emails just fine.
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Huh? I have juice defender and I get emails just fine.
You receive them, when JD turns data on, not actually when they arrive on the server.As I said in my original post, they arrive, just not on time.
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And you will never EVER receive an important email on time again!
Totally agree. It's not magic. JD works by shutting down aspects of your phone.

Jd and programs like it usually cause far more problems than they fix.

Also, not really needed with the S4, which does fine.
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From the usage your suggesting I'd expect similar battery life all round, possibly better with the iPhone, purely cos it does less! As someone else stated, the s4 is the only one with a removable battery which gives you the option to purchase after market batteries, there are extended batteries available, but I don't like them as they add a lot of bulk, or there are standard size ones...I'm finding the anker standard size Is perfect for me!
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There are loads of external batteries too, cheap and very easy to throw in your backpack.
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If I turn off the extra features like the air waving crap and only use my phone for basic things (texting, checking email, one 5 minute call a day) plus auto syncing email, gchat, and streaming music for 2-3 hours a day, how long can I expect the battery to last?
I think if you're on wifi instead of 4G you'll get much better life while streaming music. I have disabled pretty much everything and am currently at 2 days on battery with 2h40m screen time (44% battery left). The screen is my largest battery user.
I don't stream, I just get emails, texts, 5 minute call, and web browsing etc. Mostly on wifi.
I keep Mobile Data off unless I'm out and about and away from wifi.

I'm guessing I can get 3 days battery life with 5h screen time.
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I average about 15 hrs before throwing it on a charger at 20% or so. The smart features are turned off on my phone. Average screen on time close to 4. Not sure how good this is but it kills my iPhone 5 battery and I'm thrilled with the GS4!
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Just spend your $5 for juice defender ultimate and you'll never EVER give battery life another thought.
How does juice defender work? I have the free version, but i couldn't understand how to use it.
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How does juice defender work? I have the free version, but i couldn't understand how to use it.
I would strongly recommend uninstalling it Talal5897. A correctly set up phone should not need a Task Killer and it can actually use more battery than it saves. See why, here:-

Why You Shouldn’t Use a Task Killer On Android

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Real world tests show task killers still don’t give you better battery life
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I would strongly recommend uninstalling it Talal5897. A correctly set up phone should not need a Task Killer and it can actually use more battery than it saves. See why, here:-

Why You Shouldn’t Use a Task Killer On Android

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Real world tests show task killers still don’t give you better battery life
No idea where you got that, bu Juice Defender has NOTHING to do with task killers.
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Ok, my battery is near dead. Here are screenshots of the life.
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No idea where you got that, bu Juice Defender has NOTHING to do with task killers.
Thanks for clearing that point up Szadzik. I agree that Juice Defender is not a task killer, per se. However, it does regulate and close down certain set tasks at predefined times as you yourself pointed out with emails which, I agree with you, can be a real pain. As you yourself know I'm sure, there are other means of conserving battery life through careful use of settings, for instance, without disabling the phone.
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volleybear,

Everyone seems to be pulling you different directions but I have a vzw lte S4 and about a week ago I bought my wife her iphone5 (she went from a 4S).

I too dont use any of the gimmick features and have them all disabled.

The S4 is on par with the iphone, and most nights we come home and my battery has 5-15% more than hers does...rarely does hers have more.

It will last a good 9 hours of nerd usage, 28 hours of medium usage, 30+ of light usage...AND...you can just buy a 2600mah anker battery on amazon for 12 bucks and keep it in your car or pocket to double that.

I got 99 problems but a B....battery aint one ;-)
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Thanks for clearing that point up Szadzik. I agree that Juice Defender is not a task killer, per se. However, it does regulate and close down certain set tasks at predefined times as you yourself pointed out with emails which, I agree with you, can be a real pain. As you yourself know I'm sure, there are other means of conserving battery life through careful use of settings, for instance, without disabling the phone.
It does not close down tasks, it shuts down Data Connections and WiFi
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volleybear,

Everyone seems to be pulling you different directions but I have a vzw lte S4 and about a week ago I bought my wife her iphone5 (she went from a 4S).

I too dont use any of the gimmick features and have them all disabled.

The S4 is on par with the iphone, and most nights we come home and my battery has 5-15% more than hers does...rarely does hers have more.

It will last a good 9 hours of nerd usage, 28 hours of medium usage, 30+ of light usage...AND...you can just buy a 2600mah anker battery on amazon for 12 bucks and keep it in your car or pocket to double that.

I got 99 problems but a B....battery aint one ;-)
Ah nice, seems like the S4 is perfect for my needs then. But what do you mean by medium usage?

If only the S4 can take better night photos..
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I'm currently sitting with 32% remaining after 1 day 13 hours and 27 minutes of moderate usage. I have some features disabled but more on than off. I am very pleased with the batter life of this phone. I'm getting better battery longevity with it than I was on a Moto Bionic with an extended battery.
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Ah nice, seems like the S4 is perfect for my needs then. But what do you mean by medium usage?

If only the S4 can take better night photos..
Medium usage to me would mean obsessively being on it but not playing games or watching a long movie...generally youll get 4+ hours of screen time being on, the lowest screen time ive had is 2.5 hours. At 2600mah, the battery is one of the best OEM batteries.

As for low light photos, she's got a super potent flash to make up for her inability to shoot night shots without illumination.

Here's a link to a few of my S4 photos (though none are dark)
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Battery life is great. On average, I get 13 to 15hrs usage with around 4 hrs on screen time, using auto brightness, email sync every 4 hrs and using wifi 80% of the time. I'm on vacation now and took over 100 pictures in an 8 hrs day and got 13 hrs with 20% battery left. Only features I'm using is Smart Stay, Multi Window and power saving mode. Most of my screen on time is reading emails, text messages, magazines, books, news articles and surfing the net.
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I get through a full day of pretty heavy use and don't hit 20% on the battery until about 11PM. Compare this to my old HTC DINC 2 which would die about 5PM with a similar load. I'm thrilled with this phone and the battery life.
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Although I've had my G4 for some time now, I continue to be impressed with the incredibly long battery life I get. Being an admitted smartphone addict, I've got a lot of different new models.

Until I bought this S4, my favorite was my Nexus 4 with a close second being my Note 2. Then I bought this S4 I'm composing this post on. Suddenly I have a new favorite, Samsung made some terrific improvements in TouchWiz.

Having owned every Galaxy S since the original it's been fun watching the progress Samsung has made. In the S and S2 TouchWiz was rather mediocre, but those days are over. Normally I root my phones right away, but this version of TouchWiz is so good that I'm still using it.

The more I use this S4 the more I am amazed at just how good it is.
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Lately I've noticed that my battery seems to be draining more quickly than it had in the past.
I can't seem to figure out why.
When I woke up this morning I had found that the battery had dropped 11% while I was sleeping. (which was only 6 hours)
I don't have any 3rd party apps running to my knowledge.
Wifi,Bluetooth, GPS, Sync, were all off.
I don't use any of those S features other than 'quick glance', so all that stuff is off as well.
I basically have it stripped down to bare bones, especially at night.


The only thing I messed with recently was I tried out Google Now,
didn't really seem very essential to my needs, so I shut it off and cleared the data.
I also tried out WeatherBug.
I thought that might have been the culprit, so I uninstalled it last night before bed.
Turns out ....it wasn't.

Any ideas or suggestions?
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What tasks are running? Hold down the Home button and select active applications. Additionally, you may want to go into the settings of your apps to set the correct sync schedule/notifications etc.
I tried out "Easy Battery Saver" app yesterday and have noticed a nice difference. Phone usually dropped about 10% over night, and it was only 4% last night. I tried JuiceDefender before this, and didn't notice the ease of use or savings.
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The GS4 has a generous battery, but also has MORE than generous features, most of which are not needed and somewhat gimmicky. If you disable most of the whiz-bang features your batt life will improve dramatically.

I can't speak to T-Mo but Sprint is getting ready to roll out a MR to help improve battery life (even more) as well as a few other features and improvements. I'm testing the MR and so far I've seen better battery life so I've gone from very pleased with batter life to AMAZED by battery life. YMMV on other carriers and when they release the same fixes.
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Lately I've noticed that my battery seems to be draining more quickly than it had in the past.
I can't seem to figure out why.
When I woke up this morning I had found that the battery had dropped 11% while I was sleeping. (which was only 6 hours)
I don't have any 3rd party apps running to my knowledge.
Wifi,Bluetooth, GPS, Sync, were all off.
I don't use any of those S features other than 'quick glance', so all that stuff is off as well.
I basically have it stripped down to bare bones, especially at night.


The only thing I messed with recently was I tried out Google Now,
didn't really seem very essential to my needs, so I shut it off and cleared the data.
I also tried out WeatherBug.
I thought that might have been the culprit, so I uninstalled it last night before bed.
Turns out ....it wasn't.

Any ideas or suggestions?

I've had this happened with a few of my devices. My NEXUS 7, for example, suddenly started emptying the battery every night.

This is almost always some widget or program that is hitting the web and/or GPS signals for constant data updates. On my Nexus, I think the problem is probably due to the stock/weather widgets I rely on.
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What tasks are running? Hold down the Home button and select active applications. Additionally, you may want to go into the settings of your apps to set the correct sync schedule/notifications etc.
I tried out "Easy Battery Saver" app yesterday and have noticed a nice difference. Phone usually dropped about 10% over night, and it was only 4% last night. I tried JuiceDefender before this, and didn't notice the ease of use or savings.
I clear all tasks on a regular basis, especially before bed, so I know it isn't that. The only thing I have syncing is my email, and sync was off. Maybe I'll give easy battery saver a look. Thanks.

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The GS4 has a generous battery, but also has MORE than generous features, most of which are not needed and somewhat gimmicky. If you disable most of the whiz-bang features your batt life will improve dramatically.

I can't speak to T-Mo but Sprint is getting ready to roll out a MR to help improve battery life (even more) as well as a few other features and improvements. I'm testing the MR and so far I've seen better battery life so I've gone from very pleased with batter life to AMAZED by battery life. YMMV on other carriers and when they release the same fixes.
Yep.
I don't even use the fancy features other than quick glance...so that's not it.
Hopefully an update will help, but I'd still like to narrow this down in the meantime.

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I've had this happened with a few of my devices. My NEXUS 7, for example, suddenly started emptying the battery every night.

This is almost always some widget or program that is hitting the web and/or GPS signals for constant data updates. On my Nexus, I think the problem is probably due to the stock/weather widgets I rely on.
That's what I'm thinking too but I can't pinpoint anything.
I don't really use anything that needs constant updating and haven't installed anything new other than the Weatherbug like I had said before and Google Now.
I uninstalled Weatherbug and stopped Google Now.

I'm stumped.
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The 1 sec it impacts me with the turning on the wifi on wake up just takes soooo much time out of the day. I need that wifi on in my pocket at all times! And being unassailed by emails every 15 minutes (average delay 7.5 mins) brings my life to a standstill. JD Doesn't impact BT or SMS at all, that I can see. And when forgetting to plug it in at night after beating it to death the day before and waking up to 60% charged is such a pain. I really hate having all those power saving things like screen brightness, haptic, vibrate, etc turned up to full so I can take advantage of what the phone was designed to do. Those folks that run JD probably haven't toggled anything off except sound when they go to church. If one wants to fiddle/toggle with phone all the time, and have all power settings set to "creep along" will just hate JD. Those that have JD Ultimate, forget they have it. Best $5 I've spent on an app. These battery related hand wringing sessions seem so silly.
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Juice defender goes in my "sucker app" category. I've been on android since the OG droid, and have never needed anything like jd. If your battery is draining, its a rogue app or a hardware defect. If you're waking up in the morning and have 60% battery left, you weren't "beating it to death" the day before. Not that i'm complaining about those who buy useless apps, those devs gotta eat too right?
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With most things turned off on my galaxy s4 I was getting around 15 -16 hours of battery with around 3 hours of screen on times. I just bought an extended ZeroLemon 7500 mAh battery and get 2 days of use. The galaxy s4 has a removable battery so if you kill it you can buy another stock battery but if you don't care about how thick the phone is you could buy an extended battery. If you decide in a HTC ONE or IPhone 5 the only draw back is the non-removable battery. Yes you could buy something like a mobi juice pack but they are over priced. A galaxy s4 extra battery cost $30 where a a mobi juice pack that has a little smaller battery cost $100.
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You have no idea. I just use the phone, JD manages it.
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