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Old June 30th, 2013, 05:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Why is the volume level so much lower on Samsung Galaxy S4 compared to the iPhone?

Hi, last night I was watching the Glastonbury stream through the BBC Radio iPlayer app using a very loud portable Minirig speaker (wired using aux to aux) all on my new Samsung Galaxy S4. I was very disappointed to find that at full volume it was only just borderline loud. I initially put this down to limitations due to the source being streamed but I then decided to test plugging in my mate iPhone 4 and to my horror and frustration it was as loud as my S4's full volume just over half the way up. When I did dare to max the iPhone's volume to full it was incredibly loud and how I expected my phone to be. Considering I'm meant to have one of the best smartphones on the market I expect at least the same level of volume as an iPhone. This happened with my last HTC Desire HD when I tested the same mp3 song on the same speaker system compared to the iPhone and I was laughed out of the room with my poor low limit of volume. The only recommendations I got on here was apps to increase the volume that just distorted the sound. What I'm really looking for is some true hardware facts about the hand sets like that the low level is down to the phone's soundboard or etc. I will never be an iPhone owner but at the same time no one seemed to want to admit defeat that the iPhone wins hands down in the volume level department. Is it just the case that the iPhone has superior hardware for playing everything through the handsets? I do hope this is not true! Any recommendations to increase the volume on my S4 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Old June 30th, 2013, 05:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Actually, Samsung abides by standard EU recommendations of volume limits to protect the ears of its users. On the other hand, Apple does not care if its buyers tear their eardrums off. Its a software limitation generally, since AFAIK some custom ROMs have higher volume output.
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If the same happened with the Desire HD then it's most likely due to the impedance of the speaker being unsuited to the output from the handset. The accepted standard for earphone output is 16ohm iirc.
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Actually, Samsung abides by standard EU recommendations of volume limits to protect the ears of its users. On the other hand, Apple does not care if its buyers tear their eardrums off. Its a software limitation generally, since AFAIK some custom ROMs have higher volume output.
Ummm no.
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Ummm no.
Umm, yes. This has been an issue since 2007. This complaint first cropped up against Nokia who were number 1 then, when their phone music volumes started dropping. Many manufacturers started following suit until only Apple remained as the loudest in terms of volume output among all devices. Samsung does have a SoundAlive externalization setting to overcome this when connected to speakers though.
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. Have you gone into your Settings > My Device > Sound > Volume > and made sure the sliders are all the way up for media etc?
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Umm, yes. This has been an issue since 2007. This complaint first cropped up against Nokia who were number 1 then, when their phone music volumes started dropping. Many manufacturers started following suit until only Apple remained as the loudest in terms of volume output among all devices. Samsung does have a SoundAlive externalization setting to overcome this when connected to speakers though.
Please provide proof of this. Because this seems a bit far fetched.
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Thanks for all your replies!

Yes I made sure all the media volume was at full.

So if I use the SoundAlive option which type would be aimed for an external speaker source does anyone know if there is one? Tube amp effect or Virtual 7.1 ch perhaps?

If this doesn't surfice I will probably go down the rooted road of the links below but I would rather not and shouldn't have to really.

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Please provide proof of this. Because this seems a bit far fetched.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21294537

Also if you have an iPhone or iPod, in the settings there is an EU volume limit switch which decreases volume a lot.
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Yes I made sure all the media volume was at full.

So if I use the SoundAlive option which type would be aimed for an external speaker source does anyone know if there is one? Tube amp effect or Virtual 7.1 ch perhaps?
I forgot to reply to this. Virtual 7.1 only works well if your speaker supports 7.1 channels. Not sure for your settings, but my S3mini has an 'externalizaton' option in the soundalive settings.. Just try everything until you find which works best for your speakers.
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When I compare the range of Volume between my iPhone 5 and my Galaxy S4 I find them nearly identical. The slight difference is in the S4 which is able to play louder than the iPhone.

Thus far my S4 has been a really fantastic phone. It's so much more advanced than my iPhone it's amazing. I'm so happy I switched to Android!
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No you are wrong. First the iPhone has to abide by a similar law which also exist in the U.S.and second the Galaxy S 4 sold in the U.S. has to abide by the same rules as the iPhone. The iPhone does have better sound quality, especially during calls, than the S 4 but it sounds like his loudness issue is a defect of his particular handset.


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The iPhone does have better sound quality, especially during calls, than the S 4 but it sounds like his loudness issue is a defect of his particular handset.
My Galaxy S4 & iPhone 5 are on the same carrier, In my experience the noise cancellation system in my S4 is far superior to my iPhone 5. This is also confirmed by those I call.

In addition the clarity and range of volume adjustment is greater and more granular on the S4.

I'm not advocating for Samsung, but simply sharing my personal experience of each of these phones.
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The Samsung GS4 has a known headphone jack "clipping" issue. For you Sprint customers (Thank YOU!), we are issuing an MR in the VERY near future that will fix the clipping issue and give better volume control from headphone jack output. Plus other enhancements.

I can't speak to other carriers' GS4s.
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I had this problem. Solved it by going into settings and adjusting volune level for music, video, games and other media. It was set at half way and I bumped it up to max.
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Please provide proof of this. Because this seems a bit far fetched.

I could, but only with links to a Nokia forum and I can't really be bothered. This was post 2008, and it is perfectly true about the limits set by the EU and the vast majority of phone manufactures abiding by the limit. It wasn't mandatory, even for EU countries, just recommended, all but Apple complied.

There are custom ROMs and mods for rooted devices out there that remove the limit, and I have done so on a Galaxy S3 which was painfully loud through the stock ear buds once it was modified, and that without distortion.
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No you are wrong. First the iPhone has to abide by a similar law which also exist in the U.S.and second the Galaxy S 4 sold in the U.S. has to abide by the same rules as the iPhone. The iPhone does have better sound quality, especially during calls, than the S 4 but it sounds like his loudness issue is a defect of his particular handset.

Wasn't talking about the United States.
They were talking about the EU.
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