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Old August 27th, 2013, 01:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I actually feel like I took a step backwards going from a Nexus to an S4.

Two major beefs after three days of ownership:

1) None of the volume settings can be locked to each other like on the Nexus. I tried installing Volume Control+ but it seems to be very buggy and not working right. Why would Samsung make you adjust all of your volume settings individually when going from a loud environment to a quick environment.

2) The lowest notification volume setting is still too loud when I use a Zedge notification sound. My Homer Simpson "doh" is way too loud for use in the office. With the Nexus it was very subtle.

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I actually feel like I took a step backwards going from a Nexus to an S4.

Two major beefs after three days of ownership:

1) None of the volume settings can be locked to each other like on the Nexus. I tried installing Volume Control+ but it seems to be very buggy and not working right. Why would Samsung make you adjust all of your volume settings individually when going from a loud environment to a quick environment.

2) The lowest notification volume setting is still too loud when I use a Zedge notification sound. My Homer Simpson "doh" is way too loud for use in the office. With the Nexus it was very subtle.
Never owned a Nexus and even if I did I don't think I or anyone else could answer "why would samsung do this."
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I have owned a Nexus and I can't believe what I'm hearing (pun intended)!

Samsung "did this" because it's what the majority of people wanted. The reason the volume for notifications is separated from ringtone volume is because the Nexus volumes could not be separated unless you were running a custom ROM! And the reason your notification sound is too loud is because Zedge sounds are known for being louder!

Oh, yeah, and the reason your notification volume was "subtle" on your Nexus is BECAUSE THE VOLUME ON THAT PHONE SUCKED! Go to the GNex forum and you will lose count of all the people complaining about that !
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I have owned a Nexus and I can't believe what I'm hearing (pun intended)!

Samsung "did this" because it's what the majority of people wanted. The reason the volume for notifications is separated from ringtone volume is because the Nexus volumes could not be separated unless you were running a custom ROM! And the reason your notification sound is too loud is because Zedge sounds are known for being louder!

Oh, yeah, and the reason your notification volume was "subtle" on your Nexus is BECAUSE THE VOLUME ON THAT PHONE SUCKED! Go to the GNex forum and you will lose count of all the people complaining about that !
Agree that the Gnex volume sucked, no argument there. But now that the S4 is SO MUCH louder, what point is there in using Zedge which I really like. I don't want to reprocess my familiar notifications/ringtones with a 3rd party app just so they can be played back at an acceptable level on my S4. Even some of the stock S4 notifications are too loud for a work environment (i.e. cubicle life). They should have made MORE than 7 volume preset levels, with Level 1 being barely audible.

Regarding the separation of volume control, Samsung should have chosen the middle ground and at least allowed an option to lock/unlock any or all volume settings. Whenever I get to work I now have to lower my ringtone volume with the rocker and then my notification volume with my fat finger on the config screen. A major PITA. How is this advantageous to S4 users? When I leave work I have to change both settings as well so I can hear them in a noisy environment. Why couldn't they have made custom volume profiles that can be saved as presets??? Really this is 2013, not 5 years ago. Am I really demanding too much?
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Sounds like you need a 3rd party app to help you out. I use an app called "Volume Control" which allows me to set up 3 different profiles that controls all the volumes on my phone. Example: I have profiles for Sleep, Awake and Music. If you prefer scheduled profiles, then try "Timerrific". With this app, you set up your profiles, set the time and day/s they should turn on/off. (I use this app the most and love it.)

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Sounds like you need a 3rd party app to help you out. I use an app called "Volume Control" which allows me to set up 3 different profiles that controls all the volumes on my phone. Example: I have profiles for Sleep, Awake and Music. If you prefer scheduled profiles, then try "Timerrific". With this app, you set up your profiles, set the time and day/s they should turn on/off. (I use this app the most and love it.)

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I tried Volume Control but its very buggy with the S4.
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Have you tried the Adapt setting?

"From Home screen, tap Settings, My device, Sound, Adapt sound. Read instructions and tap Start. Follow the onscreen instructions to set up your personal call sound."
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I really don't mean to sound like a dick. Hope the message won't read in such manner.

I don't think Samsung really is to blame for 3rd party audio being recorded in a very high volume.
I have that problem all the time, with MP3 files in my car. For some going from 1 to 2 is like for others going from 1 to 5. Minor adjustment make it way too loud, or way too low. I don't blame the car, I just adjust the volume using audio editing software.

I can't complain about my sound on the S4, the phone performs very well, in low and high volume. But I do open all my tones in Adobe Audition, and manually refine each to work perfectly for the specific device and their sound capabilities. I prepare 20 or so at one go, and they last me for a year, or more...
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Have you tried the Adapt setting?

"From Home screen, tap Settings, My device, Sound, Adapt sound. Read instructions and tap Start. Follow the onscreen instructions to set up your personal call sound."
That just sets up a custom EQ. It doesn't affect overall volume.
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Agree that the Gnex volume sucked, no argument there. But now that the S4 is SO MUCH louder, what point is there in using Zedge which I really like. I don't want to reprocess my familiar notifications/ringtones with a 3rd party app just so they can be played back at an acceptable level on my S4. Even some of the stock S4 notifications are too loud for a work environment (i.e. cubicle life). They should have made MORE than 7 volume preset levels, with Level 1 being barely audible.

Regarding the separation of volume control, Samsung should have chosen the middle ground and at least allowed an option to lock/unlock any or all volume settings. Whenever I get to work I now have to lower my ringtone volume with the rocker and then my notification volume with my fat finger on the config screen. A major PITA. How is this advantageous to S4 users? When I leave work I have to change both settings as well so I can hear them in a noisy environment. Why couldn't they have made custom volume profiles that can be saved as presets??? Really this is 2013, not 5 years ago. Am I really demanding too much?

I totally understand your pain. I've been on the hunt for months trying out different volume controls as well as many different automation apps to help control the volume between home and work. I've tried Llama, Automateit, Setting Profiles Lite, Tasker, and Locale and I have to say Locale is my favorite. You can set up geo-fencing using your phone's GPS and it can set the volumes for you when you come within the area you set up. For example, put in your office address and when you get within so many meters it will automatically change the volume down for you. And when you leave it sets it back. I also have a plugin that will send SMS auto-replies when it detects that I'm driving telling the sender that I'm driving and will respond when I can reply safely. IMO it's a pretty slick little app and isn't very bloated. You can install only the plugins you want to so you have total control on how large of a footprint this app has.
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