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Old April 4th, 2014, 06:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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#1.0. There can be no doubt that one area that Samsung excel at is their policy of continual improvement and updates to their firmwares.

With the initial rollout of the KitKat, Android 4.4.2, coming to an end we are starting to see the release of the first Samsung TouchWiz, KitKat, improvement and enhancement, (sometimes called, "bugfix"), updates.

#1.1. Over half of Samsung Galaxy S4 firmware releases, 250+, worldwide are for non carrier branded models, e.g. those that do not have any carrier bloatware, and these can be updated by Samsung and released from their servers, at will. Bearing in mind that the Galaxy S4 has now covered 3 Android platforms, Android 4.2.2, 4.3 and 4.4.2, then S4 models released 11 months ago will have had, at least, the initial 4.2.2 release plus the 4.3 and 4.4.2 updates, making a total of 3 firmware releases at least. However, as we have seen, between these releases have been numerous updates for improvements/bugfixes.

#1.2. Here is an example of non carrier branded firmware for the GT-i9505 for Germany, CSC code OXA and Product code DBT. To-date, this model has received no less than 11 firmware releases, roughly 1 a month. If we discount the original release and the further 2 platform updates, this leaves 8 other improvement/bugfix updates in less than a year by Samsung.

#1.3. Of course, Samsung pass all these updates on to carriers who can then choose whether to spend the time, effort and money on adding their, "bloatware", to these improvement updates and return them to Samsung for release either OTA or via Kies. (N.B. U.S. carriers, AT&T and Verizon, do not use Samsung servers for firmware releases.)

Thankfully, because competition is so hot on the worldwide market, these carriers are, by-and-large, usually keen to update their firmware as they do not want to be seen as lagging too far behind the non carrier branded models in case customers opt for these in future. Also, providing that users do not mind potentially voiding their warranty, they can, on the International models, flash via Odin, the latest firmware available worldwide for their model of phone, anyway.

If we stay with Germany and look at a carrier branded version of the above firmware for the carrier E-Plus, CSC/Product code EPL, they have so far had 9 firmware releases of which, 6 were improvement/bugfix updates that they chose to pass on to their customers.

Make no mistake, it is not just the large countries and customer bases of the world that Samsung are supporting. Take tiny, little, Luxembourg, population about half a million, who have had 10 releases so far for the non carrier branded GT-i9505 on CSC code OXX, Product code LUX. This means that they have had 7 improvement/bugfix releases since launch to keep them up-to-date and problem free.

#1.4. These improvement/bugfix releases issued by Samsung are for enhancements to their own TouchWiz firmware and unlike the major platform updates, these releases can usually be integrated very quickly and easily.

Already, the GT-i9500, octa core models for India has received an improvement/bugfix update, (their 10th so far), for CSC codes YDD and ODD and product codes INS and INU, taking it from the initial KitKat build release of NB3, 13th FEB: 2014, changelist 699287 to the NC1 build, 5th MAR: 2014, on changelist 923538. Quite a sizeable changelist update would indicate a fair few improvements to this firmware and well worth updating to. Unfortunately, Samsung do not publish actual details of their changelists so I cannot say which specific items have been updated.

#1.5. So, if you are on unbranded firmware for the S4, the chances are that any problems you may experience could be rectified with an update in about 4 weeks or so. For those on carrier branded firmware, depending on your carrier, the update could be around 6-8 weeks.

#1.6. To see if there is an update for your model/CSC/Product code, check both Kies and OTA, (Over The Air). For more details on your model, CSC and Product codes as well as updating via Odin, see 28 Galaxy S4 models - know yours?


See, also...

International i9505 KitKat 4.4.2 releases

International i9500 KitKat 4.4.2 releases

International i9506 KitKat 4.4.2 releases

KitKat 4.4.2 release... fact and fiction

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The International, GT-i9505, is receiving a further KitKat, Android 4.4.2, update for the following CSC code...


YXX = South East Europe from the FEB; NB9, to MAR; NC4, release.


Judging by the KitKat improvement updates that we have seen so far, it would appear that some of the early JAN: and FEB: KitKat build releases are being replaced.


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Further to #1.4 in post #1, the International GT-i9500, octa core, unbranded model for India, Product code INS, has received its third KitKat update...

YDD = India





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A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9500, octa core, Galaxy S4.

Hot on the heels of the update for the huge Indian market, (pop: 1.2 billion), there has been one for China, (pop: 1.3 billion).

CHN = China Updated to ND1. A 31 MAR: 2014 build date.



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A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9505, Galaxy S4.


EVR = United Kingdom (EE) takes it from firmware release NBH to NC4




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VFG = United Kingdom (Vodafone)

VFG = Netherlands (Vodafone)


Both updated from NB8 to NC8






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Really?

I hope they fix the sound issue.

Two days ago, I stopped receiving ANY audio from my phone. Won't ring, won't alert. No key press, nothing. I've done a cache clear and factory reset.

First it started with notifications. Then it started with other things. At first, it would notify my of a single call, text... and stop working after that. Now, no matter what I do. Reboot, pull the battery, cards, etc... no sound.

Thanks a lot Android/AT&T for absolutely @#$%ing up a phone, I was perfectly happy with.
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I just got a update from AT&T. It's 19.05mb. I'm surprised they pushed this out this fast.
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I just got a update from AT&T. It's 19.05mb. I'm surprised they pushed this out this fast.
That's interesting BurtGummer. At that size it's a patch rather than a full blown firmware replacement update. Any announcements on what it fixes? Has your Baseband changed?
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I337Ucufnc1 is the new baseband. I haven't seen anything about what it fixes.
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After having had AT&T replace my phone (I had 44 days left on warranty)... the patch came thru tonight. After what KitKat did, I'm afraid to install it.

Though tonight, out of the blue, the phone didn't recognize my SIM card.
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A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9500, octa core, Galaxy S4.


OJV = Saudi Arabia (KSA) Changes to CSC code and modem.


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A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9505, Galaxy S4.


OXX = South East Europe Updated from NB9 to NC4


There does seem to be a push by Samsung to get the S4 on to their March >, (C), release builds which rectify some of the problems in the early, January, (A), and, February, (B), Samsung KitKat releases.




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A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9505, Galaxy S4.


VOD = United Kingdom (Vodafone) This is its second KitKat update from NB8 > NC8 > ND7

Nice carrier support! (see #1.3 in post #1)

This release, unusually, puts it way ahead of the unbranded UK version, (CSC code BTU), which is still on NB8.




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A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9505, Galaxy S4.


OXA = Germany Takes it from NB8, (FEB build), to NE5, (MAY build).


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http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s4/830920-international-i9500-kitkat-releases.html

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A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9505, Galaxy S4.

ZTO = Brazil from NB2 -> NE2 (May build)


A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9500, Galaxy S4.


ODD = Sri Lanka from NC1 -> NE4 (May build)

ODD = Nepal from NC1 -> NE4 (May build)

ODD = Bangladesh from NC1 -> NE4 (May build)


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http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s4/830920-international-i9500-kitkat-releases.html

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I moved the posts regarding the AT&T update causing overheating issues to this new thread: Overheating issues with AT&T Update

Let's keep this thread about information regarding the updates rather than a support thread because it contains a lot of good information.
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After having had AT&T replace my phone (I had 44 days left on warranty)... the patch came thru tonight. After what KitKat did, I'm afraid to install it.

Though tonight, out of the blue, the phone didn't recognize my SIM card.

Bug fix? Don't do it. Since doing it, the phone is very warm to hot, battery life went from bad to worse, and some apps. don't work. In fact, so far, 2 had to be uninstalled and reinstalled for them to work. I wasn't able to put them over to my sD card. Also, music streaming to my car's sound system and Pandora no longer worked. I had to unpair and re-pair the phone. My WiFi was in a honeymoon phase of working for a change. After the "fix", it took me 3 attempts to get on. Can't wait to see what else will go wrong.


ironass said: "There can be no doubt that one area that Samsung excel at is their policy of continual improvement and updates to their firmwares."

Seriously? What a joke....



All I can say is wtf are they doing? I am looking forward to ditching this Samsung, and doubt I will come back to another.
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Bug fix? Don't do it. Since doing it, the phone is very warm to hot, battery life went from bad to worse, and some apps. don't work. In fact, so far, 2 had to be uninstalled and reinstalled for them to work. I wasn't able to put them over to my sD card. Also, music streaming to my car's sound system and Pandora no longer worked. I had to unpair and re-pair the phone. My WiFi was in a honeymoon phase of working for a change. After the "fix", it took me 3 attempts to get on. Can't wait to see what else will go wrong.


ironass said: "There can be no doubt that one area that Samsung excel at is their policy of continual improvement and updates to their firmwares."

Seriously? What a joke....



All I can say is wtf are they doing? I am looking forward to ditching this Samsung, and doubt I will come back to another.
Canesfan your phone does not run either...

Stock Android

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Stock Samsung firmware

It runs AT&T's version of the above which is modified by AT&T and is not even released through Samsung or updated by Samsung.

If you read post #1 again you will see that Samsung are indeed supporting the rest of the world's Galaxy S4's.

Please do not judge Android or Samsung by AT&T's firmware build and update policy.

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6. So, next time you see a post that states something like... "KitKat ruined my phone!", or, "KitKat is rubbish", or, "Android sucks", look more closely, do they mean Android's version of KitKat or Samsung's version of Android's KitKat or their carrier's version of Samsung's version of Android's KitKat?
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Please do not judge Android or Samsung by AT&T's firmware build and update policy.

The way I see it is as follows: as long as "Samsung" puts its name on it and marketing behind it, be it AT&T, Verizon, or what-have-you, I will judge Samsung by it's performance, good or bad. I consider the firmware, etc. to be endorsed by Samsung. If the firmware, updates, etc., are not up to Samsung's standards, they should have enough integrity not to sanction it.
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Please do not judge Android or Samsung by AT&T's firmware build and update policy.

The way I see it is as follows: as long as "Samsung" puts its name on it and marketing behind it, be it AT&T, Verizon, or what-have-you, I will judge Samsung by it's performance, good or bad. I consider the firmware, etc. to be endorsed by Samsung. If the firmware, updates, etc., are not up to Samsung's standards, they should have enough integrity not to sanction it.
Irrespective of whom you consider is to blame Canesfan, the fact of the matter is that the AT&T Galaxy S4, SGH-i337, is a minority variant of the worldwide Samsung Galaxy S4. It has different hardware spec's and runs a heavily carrier modified version of the firmware that is not released or updated directly by Samsung. Therefore, it is important to note that this model and firmware is not typical of the vast majority of Samsung Galaxy S4's internationally and that any shortcomings with updates, or the lack of, on this variant may not necessarily be reflected for the majority of users globally as the decision to offer an update or not, is AT&T's.

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#1.3. Of course, Samsung pass all these updates on to carriers who can then choose whether to spend the time, effort and money on adding their, "bloatware", to these improvement updates and return them to Samsung for release either OTA or via Kies. (N.B. U.S. carriers, AT&T and Verizon, do not use Samsung servers for firmware releases.)
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ironass said: Irrespective of whom you consider is to blame Canesfan, the fact of the matter is that the AT&T Galaxy S4, SGH-i337, is a minority variant of the worldwide Samsung Galaxy S4. It has different hardware spec's and runs a heavily carrier modified version of the firmware that is not released or updated directly by Samsung. Therefore, it is important to note that this model and firmware is not typical of the vast majority of Samsung Galaxy S4's internationally and that any shortcomings with updates, or the lack of, on this variant may not necessarily be reflected for the majority of users globally as the decision to offer an update or not, is AT&T's.


I do blame Samsung and am shying away from the brand. It is of no consolation to me if Samsung GS4's in Kuala Lumpur or BFE are stellar when mine is problem-prone.
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ironass said: Irrespective of whom you consider is to blame Canesfan, the fact of the matter is that the AT&T Galaxy S4, SGH-i337, is a minority variant of the worldwide Samsung Galaxy S4. It has different hardware spec's and runs a heavily carrier modified version of the firmware that is not released or updated directly by Samsung. Therefore, it is important to note that this model and firmware is not typical of the vast majority of Samsung Galaxy S4's internationally and that any shortcomings with updates, or the lack of, on this variant may not necessarily be reflected for the majority of users globally as the decision to offer an update or not, is AT&T's.


I do blame Samsung and am shying away from the brand. It is of no consolation to me if Samsung GS4's in Kuala Lumpur or BFE are stellar when mine is problem-prone.
Yours is, "problem-prone", because of AT&T and not Samsung. You would do better to switch carrier's.
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A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9500, octa core, Galaxy S4.


OXX = Sri Lanka from NC1 -> NE4

OXX = Nepal from NC1 -> NE4

OXX = Bangladesh from NC1 -> NE4




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Yours is, "problem-prone", because of AT&T and not Samsung. You would do better to switch carrier's.
And yet Canesfan's GS4 problems are not widespread... else the forums would be full of complaints about those issues.

From my perspective of being a happy AT&T camper with a GS4 running 4.4.2, I am mystified as to the source of Canesfan's GS4 problems.
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And yet Canesfan's GS4 problems are not widespread... else the forums would be full of complaints about those issues.

From my perspective of being a happy AT&T camper with a GS4 running 4.4.2, I am mystified as to the source of Canesfan's GS4 problems.
You may well be right speedlever.

I can only go by the disproportionate amount of problem posts that concern the only 2 releases that are very heavily modified by their carriers and released, not via Samsung but directly from the carriers themselves. These 2 carriers, AT&T and Verizon, combined, represent less than 1% of all the Galaxy S4 releases worldwide. The carriers also choose whether to release, "bugfix", updates or not. The, "bugfix", updates from Samsung are an important part of keeping the firmware running smoothly and problem free for customers.
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Really wish my G4 didn't have so many negative issues. With all due respect, I think Samsung is problematic. That's one reason why repeated "fixes" are being issued.
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A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9505, quad core, Galaxy S4.

All the below have been updated to the latest MAY build, NE8, for Android 4.4.2. Change list goes from 481100 to 1567293.


VFG = Ireland (Vodafone)

VFG = Romania (Vodafone)

VFG = Albania (Vodafone)

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VFG = Slovenia (Si.Mobil)

VFG = Croatia (VIPNET)

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VFG = Austria (A1)

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Really wish my G4 didn't have so many negative issues. With all due respect, I think Samsung is problematic. That's one reason why repeated "fixes" are being issued.
Since no smartphone firmware in history, has ever been 100% perfect at the time of the initial release, you would rather not have the, "bugfix", updates to improve your phone?

Strange, Vodafone customers were not, in the main, finding any major issues with their 4.4.2 firmware but Vodafone still chose to support their customers with the latest, May build, updates from Samsung. The NE8 modem included in the above releases is very good indeed. See, here.
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Since no smartphone firmware in history, has ever been 100% perfect at the time of the initial release, you would rather not have the, "bugfix", updates to improve your phone?
Maybe in Ulan Bator the "fixes" are great. As long as the released bugfix is going to further "ef" up my phone rather than improve it, no, I would rather not have it.

Sorry, I can't be a Samsung cheerleader.
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I probably will when the iPhone 6 comes out.
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H3G = United Kingdom (H3G) CSC code NC2 (Mar: ) -> NE1 (May)

VFG = Greece (Vodafone) from NB8 (Feb: ) build -> NE8 (May) build.

VFG = Portugal (Vodafone) from NB8 (Feb: ) build -> NE8 (May) build.



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SER = Russia Update from NB3 (Feb: ) build -> NE7 (May) build


Also receiving a bugfix update is the GT-i9502, octa core, Galaxy S4.

CHU = China update from NE2 -> NE4



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VOD = United Kingdom (Vodafone) 4th update on 4.4.2. NB8 -> NC8 -> ND7 -> NE8

VFG = Switzerland (Swisscom) update from NB8 -> NE8

YFG = Slovenia (Si.mobil) update from NB8 -> NE8

YFG = Switzerland (Swisscom) (Black Edition) update from ND7 -> NE8

NZC = New Zealand update from NC6 -> NE5

YFG = Romania (Vodafone) (Back Edition) update from ND7 -> NE8

UUB = Chile update from NC1 -> NE2

ZTR = Brazil (Oi) update from NC1 -> NE2

ZTO = Brazil update => NE2

YIA = Germany (O2) (Black Edition)


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OXE = Kazakhstan update from NB3 -> NE7


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A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9505, quad core, Galaxy S4.

DBT = Germany update from NE5 -> NF1 (latest June build currently)


A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9500, octa core, Galaxy S4.

OJV = United Arab Emirates update from NB4 -> NE7

OJV = Afghanistan update from NB4 -> NE7

OLB = Malaysia update from NB4 -> NE7

QER = Russia update from NB3 -> NE7

OJV = Tunisia update from NB4 -> NE7

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Definitely worth updating to these recent May and June bugfix releases from Samsung!

(The NE, (MAY), and NF, (JUN), modems, (basebands), in these releases are proving very good for signals)


A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9505, quad core, Galaxy S4.

OXE = Russia update from NC9 (MAR: ) build -> NF1 (June) build

YER = Russia (Black Edition) update from NC9 (MAR: ) build -> NF1 (June) build


A further KitKat update has been released for the China GT-i9502, octa core, Galaxy S4.

CHU = China (China Unicom) update from NE2 (MAY) build -> NE4 (MAY) build


A further KitKat update has been released for the Korean SHV-E330L, quad core, Galaxy S4.

LGT = Korea update from NB3 -> NC2 -> NC4 -> NE2 (MAY) build


A further KitKat update has been released for the Korean SHV-E330S, quad core, Galaxy S4.

SKT = South Korea update from NA7 -> NB2 -> NB3 -> NC4 -> NE2 (MAY) build



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In another post I stated that only the U.S.A. and Communist China mainland did not offer unbranded Samsung handsets to users.

I was wrong!

The Chinese do offer an unbranded handset, the International i9500, along with their 3 carrier branded models, GT-i9502, GT-i9508 and SCH-i959.

They are now on, currently, the latest NF1, (June), build firmware

A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9500, octa core, Galaxy S4.

CHN = China updated from NC6 -> ND1 -> NF1


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DGT = Venezuela update from NC1 -> NE2

OXX = Slovakia update from NB9 -> NF1

ITV = Italy update from NB8 -> NF1


A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9500, octa core, Galaxy S4.

OZS = Taiwan update from NB3 -> NF1

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AUT = Switzerland update from NB9 -> NF1


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ODD = India updated from NB3 -> NC1 -> NE4

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BTU = United Kingdom update from from NB8 -> NB9 ???


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BTU = United Kingdom update from from NB8 -> NB9 ???
I can confirm that it is NB9.

What's the update for?
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It looks as though Samsung are eager to update from the old NA, NB, NC and ND releases to the NE and NF versions of Android 4.4.2.

A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9505, quad core, Galaxy S4.

OXX = Hungary update from NB9 -> NF1

ZTA = Brazil (Claro) update from NC2 -> NE2

OXX = Luxembourg update from NB9 -> NF1

PHN = Netherlands update from NB8 -> NC4 -> NF1

ATO = Open Austria update from NC4 -> NF1

XEO = Poland update from NC4 -> NF1

VNZ = New Zealand (Vodafone) update from NC6 -> NE5

EUR = Greece update from NB9 -> NF1

OXX = Spain update from NB9 -> NF1

TNZ = New Zealand update from NC6 -> NE5

TIM = Italy (TIM) update from NB8 -> NF1

OXX = South East Europe update from NB9 -> NC4 -> NF1

OXX = Romania update from NB9 -> NF1


A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9500, octa core, Galaxy S4.

OJV = Saudi Arabia update from NB4 -> NE7

ODD = India update from NB3 -> NC1 -> NE4

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Frankly, the U.S.A. minority variants below, are way behind most of the worldwide unbranded models that are largely on May, June and even July builds.

There appears to be a reluctance on the part of these U.S. carriers to pass on any improvement updates that Samsung issue. This could, in part, be because of the enormous amount of time, effort and money that needs to be invested by some of these carriers to incorporate all of their add-on's and firmware changes to the stock Samsung builds before they can be released.

These, "bugfix", releases are not from Android but, rather, from Samsung to fix problems with their firmware in the main. As you can see, only one variant, U.S. Cellular, has received updates on 4.4.2 whilst some International models have had as many as 4 or 5 since the beginning of the year.

This lack of updates from U.S. carriers is yet another reason that we are seeing complaints about issues that were, in some cases, fixed and passed on by Samsung months ago.

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AT&T SGH-i337 = NB1 (FEB)
(AT&T firmware is not available or updated from Samsung sources.)

Verizon SCH-i545 = NC5 (MAR)
(Verizon firmware is not updated from Samsung)

Cricket SCH-R970C = NC6 (MAR)

C-Spire SCH-R970X = ND2 (APR)

T-Mobile/Metro U.S.A. SGH-M919 = NB4 (FEB)

US Cellular SCH-R970 = ND1 (APR) updated from NAE (further updated to NF6, see post #54)

Sprint SPH-L720 = NAE (JAN)


Canada

Canada (various) SGH-M919V = NE1 (MAY)

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Samsung have started to roll out their 2014 JULY, (NG), bugfix updates!

A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9505, quad core, Galaxy S4.

OXA = Germany update from NB8 -> NE5 -> NF1 -> NG2

YBT = Germany (Black Edition) update from NB8 -> NE5 -> NF1 -> NG2

OXX = South East Europe update from NB9 -> NC4 -> NF1 -> NG1

VIM = Macedonia update from NB8 -> NG1

OXX = Bulgaria update from NB9 -> NF1

OXX = Baltic update from NC4 -> NF1

OXX = Portugal (TPH) update from NB9 -> NF1


Check both Kies and OTA, (Over The Air). For more details on firmware, CSC and Product codes, see 28 Galaxy S4 models - know yours?

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International i9505 KitKat 4.4.2 releases

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only one variant, U.S. Cellular, has received an update on 4.4.2 whilst some International models have had as many as 3 or 4 since the beginning of the year.
US Cellular SCH-R970 = ND1 (APR) updated from NAE
This did occur on APR 22. However, nothing since then has been offered. There are still issues with 4.4.2.
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This did occur on APR 22. However, nothing since then has been offered. There are still issues with 4.4.2.
I might be wrong but I think he means APR 2015
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This did occur on APR 22. However, nothing since then has been offered. There are still issues with 4.4.2.
That is why there have been further updates since then, issued by Samsung. You need to contact your carrier and ask why they are not providing you with them.
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A further KitKat update has been released for the International GT-i9500, octa core, Galaxy S4.


OJV = South Africa (Vodafone) update from NB4 -> NE7

OJV = Turkey update from NB4 -> NF3


Check both Kies and OTA, (Over The Air). For more details on firmware, CSC and Product codes, see 28 Galaxy S4 models - know yours?

See, also...

International i9505 KitKat 4.4.2 releases

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International i9506 KitKat 4.4.2 releases

KitKat 4.4.2 release... fact and fiction

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