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So I checked out all of the popular browsers, and one really stood head and shoulders above the rest on my tab. Opera mobile Miren works really well, definitely give it a shot if you have one of these
Edit: I just tried Opera Mobile and went to Engadget.com and even though I took off the mobile view in settings, it still loaded it in mobile view. Sky Fire loads in full web view.
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I just hate mobile views of web sites. I know it could probably be Engadget causing this but even my Incredible loads Engadget in Desktop view. Sky Fire is the only one that loads it in Desktop mode that I have found. Itried Opera Mini as well and neither will open Engadget in Full mode. Engadget is where I found the news on the Samsung Tab so I'm a big fan.
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I just hate mobile views of web sites. I know it could probably be Engadget causing this but even my Incredible loads Engadget in Desktop view. Sky Fire is the only one that loads it in Desktop mode that I have found. Itried Opera Mini as well and neither will open Engadget in Full mode. Engadget is where I found the news on the Samsung Tab so I'm a big fan.
Opera mini is a bad browser, opera mobile is fantastic. If you use this link, it will give you full engadget on any browser: http://www.engadget.com/?m=false
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Actually, I just downloaded Dolphin Browser and really like it. All the pages load in Desktop after changing setting, and It looks like a real desktop browser with tabs at the top and all. You can download themes in various colors. Thanks for the tip too.
I noticed something wierd though. The VZW version with Dolphin opened NY Times in desktop mode but the T Mob version I have keeps opening it in Mobile. The trick above didn't work either. Any other tricks I could try? All other sites are fine. And yes I checked desktop for setting.
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I noticed something wierd though. The VZW version with Dolphin opened NY Times in desktop mode but the T Mob version I have keeps opening it in Mobile. The trick above didn't work either. Any other tricks I could try? All other sites are fine. And yes I checked desktop for setting.
Sites frequently use cookies to store which "version" you're one, but clearing cookies doesn't seem to fix it either. It might be some sort of server-side storage based on your IP address, but even that seems a little odd.
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Sites frequently use cookies to store which "version" you're one, but clearing cookies doesn't seem to fix it either. It might be some sort of server-side storage based on your IP address, but even that seems a little odd.
As a follow-up... if you check the headers being sent by the browser (either Dolphin HD or the default web browser, even if set to "desktop" mode), you'll find an HTTP_X_WAP_PROFILE being sent. I'm not sure if this is being sent by the mobile device itself, or something that T-Mobile is attaching as it goes through their gateway (my guess is the later). Sites will frequently use this string as a secondary check to see if you're visiting from a mobile device.
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As a follow-up... if you check the headers being sent by the browser (either Dolphin HD or the default web browser, even if set to "desktop" mode), you'll find an HTTP_X_WAP_PROFILE being sent. I'm not sure if this is being sent by the mobile device itself, or something that T-Mobile is attaching as it goes through their gateway (my guess is the later). Sites will frequently use this string as a secondary check to see if you're visiting from a mobile device.
I searched and saw where EVO owners were complaining about the stock browser not working with NY Times either but Dolphin HD worked for them. For what ever reason the T-Mob server must be sending something that NY Times is showing as a mobile device like you said above. I think I read where it's called Spoofing. It would be nice to find a string to add to the short cut to force Desktop.
Apparently the latest firmware update fixes this issue on the default browser so that they show in desktop mode.
How do you update the firmware on this device? Is this different then an OTA?
Edit.. Nevermind, I figured it out. Thanks.
Okay, I clicked on Keis but it makes a sound on my PC and then doesn't do anything. Is this update for a different model? Is there a trick to getting Keis to work? I shut down all programs through Task Manager.
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I searched and saw where EVO owners were complaining about the stock browser not working with NY Times either but Dolphin HD worked for them. For what ever reason the T-Mob server must be sending something that NY Times is showing as a mobile device like you said above. I think I read where it's called Spoofing. It would be nice to find a string to add to the short cut to force Desktop.
NY Times?? Well, that could be the problem- the sensor's orientation could be grossly favoring the left Rimshot!
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The stock browser is overall the best and most compatible that I have found, but it can be slow and buggy. Opera Mobile is the best for quick and speedy browsing (Mini is nice, but Mobile basically has Mini's ability to do server side compression built in as an option, rendering Mini useless). Dolphin HD is nice due to it's extensive add-ons and customizability (Dolphin Mini seems nice, but Opera Mobile trumps it I think). I have all 3 installed, and use them for different things depending on the situation.
Skyfire is nice but the combination of Stock, Opera Mobile, and Dolphin HD really make it.....pointless.
how do i keep my htc evo 4g from going to nytimes mobile site.
Background: Ive been using my sprint phone to visit non mobile version of nytimes for over 5 months . I updated dolphin hd yesterday and now no matter if i clear everything, reset phone, reinstalled dolphin, it keeps redirecting me to mobile site. **** My wife has same phone, same plan, and it is not re-directing her. Is this something sprint does randomly?
if i use opera it goes to nytimes full site. why cant my dolphin get full site anymore?
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I have a Droid X and a Samsung Galaxy Tab (T-Mobile). Both have Dolphin HD as the default browser. I'm at home and both are running WiFi through my Time-Warner cable broadband. I just checked and the Droid X gets the desktop version of NYTimes but the Tab gets the mobile version. I don't think it's anything to do with T-Mobile sending any codes since I'm running WiFi. Nothing I tried worked for getting the desktop version on my Tab. All other websites I visit with the Tab load with the desktop version.
One additional thing....even if I switch to "Android" mode on my Droid X it still loads NYTimes in desktop mode. I can't get it to load the mobile version.....go figure....
This is indeed a mystery.....
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I'm using Miren browser right now. I go to lots of forums, and the ability to go back to the previous page without having to reload like Dolphin saves me a ton of time.
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I'm using Miren browser right now. I go to lots of forums, and the ability to go back to the previous page without having to reload like Dolphin saves me a ton of time.
Why don't you just create a New Tab, then when you have finished and want to get back simply close the tab and click back on the tab you originally came from.
I operate Dolphin HD with many Tabs open doing it this way.
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Because Dolphin is very slow in rendering the pages completely, I end up pressing the wrong links. Besides, why bother opening the pages in other tabs when I don't have to?
Dolphin does other squirrelly stuff like not reacting to a press and hanging for a while until loading it.
Dolphin hasn't been the same since the froyo upgrade.
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Because Dolphin is very slow in rendering the pages completely, I end up pressing the wrong links.
Dolphin does other squirrelly stuff like not reacting to a press and hanging for a while until loading it.
Dolphin hasn't been the same since the froyo upgrade.
Then I guess we must both be using different versions of the Tab's ROM as on mine Dolphin has no issues in opening new tabs. I take it you have it set to 'On-Demand' for additional content?
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why bother opening the pages in other tabs when I don't have to?
We must also have different uses to Dolphin. You clearly are against using additional tabs as I note from what you mention above.
The simple answer to this for me is I like to have one page as the static master from which I then build an outward list of new pages created on new tabs. This way I often end up with several pages open available to look at by a simple click on the tab bar.
I can then much more quicker switch between tabs rather than having to use one single page as the prime for going to a new page then backward followed by 'click', reload new page and backwards again etc. etc. One solitary page makes it so difficult to navigate, especially if you are compiling a list of information displayed on several pages.
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Then I guess we must both be using different versions of the Tab's ROM as on mine Dolphin has no issues in opening new tabs. I take it you have it set to 'On-Demand' for additional content?
Mine's the Sprint one. I assume yours is as well. And it's set to on-demand. But the same issues that led me to dropping Dolphin HD on my Evo are all there on the SGT. It's slow to load pages completely and worst of all, if you press on a link as it's loading, it won't respond until the page completely loads, at which point after the page is formatted (which itself is slow), the area where I pressed the link is now a different link and it goes somewhere else. So I go back, but Dolphin has already dumped that page so I have to reload it for the link. It's just so frustratingly slow that I had to ditch Dolphin. It did not do this before froyo -- I loved Dolphin on 2.1. I don't have the patience for it now.
Oh, and the other frustrating issue with Dolphin is that it frequently does not give me feedback that it's doing anything after pressing link. I have no idea if it's loading the link or if it's just hanging.
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We must also have different uses to Dolphin. You clearly are against using additional tabs as I note from what you mention above.
I can then much more quicker switch between tabs rather than having to use one single page as the prime for going to a new page then backward followed by 'click', reload new page and backwards again etc. etc. One solitary page makes it so difficult to navigate, especially if you are compiling a list of information displayed on several pages.
I'm not against it, and I use tabs all the time on my desktop browser, but it's just not how I browse on my phone. I will say this -- Miren gives you the option of opening the tab in front or behind. Dolphin forces you to pick either or as a default. So if you like opening tabs, Miren might actually be better.
And like I said, the ability to really jump back to the previous page and not have to reload means I'm not forced to open tabs. Your method is the only way to make Dolphin even usable.
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Mine's the Sprint one. I assume yours is as well. And it's set to on-demand. But the same issues that led me to dropping Dolphin HD on my Evo are all there on the SGT. It's slow to load pages completely and worst of all, if you press on a link as it's loading, it won't respond until the page completely loads, at which point after the page is formatted (which itself is slow), the area where I pressed the link is now a different link and it goes somewhere else. So I go back, but Dolphin has already dumped that page so I have to reload it for the link. It's just so frustratingly slow that I had to ditch Dolphin. It did not do this before froyo -- I loved Dolphin on 2.1. I don't have the patience for it now.
Oh, and the other frustrating issue with Dolphin is that it frequently does not give me feedback that it's doing anything after pressing link. I have no idea if it's loading the link or if it's just hanging.
I'm not against it, and I use tabs all the time on my desktop browser, but it's just not how I browse on my phone. I will say this -- Miren gives you the option of opening the tab in front or behind. Dolphin forces you to pick either or as a default. So if you like opening tabs, Miren might actually be better.
And like I said, the ability to really jump back to the previous page and not have to reload means I'm not forced to open tabs. Your method is the only way to make Dolphin even usable.
No, I don't have the Sprint Tab, I have a UK Tab and I think this is where we have the differences.
Regardless, if you are happy with your browser of choice then that's all that really matters.
Pleased you found the right browser.
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I have Opera Mini, Dolphin HD, Skyfire, and Firefox installed on my tab. I am currently testing those along with the regular browser. I have used Dolphin, Firefox, and Default more than the other 2 so far.
I like the stock browser for overall use. I really like the way the screen real estate is maximized by not having any tabs on the top. Scrolling up and down web pages is silky smooth, and double tapping does a good job of zooming into text blocks.
Tried Dolphin HD and it feels like Microsoft IE, always asking me to make it the default browser, annoying. It also ran kind of slow and laggy on my tab, although I have upgraded to GBread via Odin. Dolphin HD seems very cimplicated, a swipe left does this, a swipe right brings up this menu, a different swype brings up Facebook, etc. The stock browser is simple, it just works.
Now experimenting with Dolphin Mini and I like it much better than Dolphin HD. I like the little transparent "back" button on bottom left hand side. It's more simple and streamlined than HD. It's also easier to make new tabs by hitting the "+" near the top. I don't like the way the tabs sit at the top however, as it takes up real estate but it's not terribly intrusive.
I've read many accounts by people who never bothered with the stock browser. I wonder how many of those people are in this thread? It's inconceivable to me that you wouldn't even bother with the stock browser. Don't you think there might be something of value in the stock software that came with your tablet?
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I just innstalled miren. Looks good. But.I am wondering is there any.browser that will keep tabs in memory after closong the app for some.time. I used.to jave iphone and.safari could have opened up to 7 pages for.days. Even.if he losse data of tje page the link is still in memory
I just innstalled miren. Looks good. But.I am wondering is there any.browser that will keep tabs in memory after closong the app for some.time. I used.to jave iphone and.safari could have opened up to 7 pages for.days. Even.if he losse data of tje page the link is still in memory
If you hit the home button instead of the back arrow Dolphin stays running with your tabs open. I haven't left it that way for periods of time though, so I don't know if it eventually closes.
I like the stock browser for overall use. I really like the way the screen real estate is maximized by not having any tabs on the top. Scrolling up and down web pages is silky smooth, and double tapping does a good job of zooming into text blocks.
Tried Dolphin HD and it feels like Microsoft IE, always asking me to make it the default browser, annoying. It also ran kind of slow and laggy on my tab, although I have upgraded to GBread via Odin. Dolphin HD seems very cimplicated, a swipe left does this, a swipe right brings up this menu, a different swype brings up Facebook, etc. The stock browser is simple, it just works.
Now experimenting with Dolphin Mini and I like it much better than Dolphin HD. I like the little transparent "back" button on bottom left hand side. It's more simple and streamlined than HD. It's also easier to make new tabs by hitting the "+" near the top. I don't like the way the tabs sit at the top however, as it takes up real estate but it's not terribly intrusive.
I've read many accounts by people who never bothered with the stock browser. I wonder how many of those people are in this thread? It's inconceivable to me that you wouldn't even bother with the stock browser. Don't you think there might be something of value in the stock software that came with your tablet?
I've tried a couple of browsers but return to the stock cause it seems to run fastest. I really hate having to go through a three step process to get to another tab. That is the biggest drawback IMHO