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Old October 3rd, 2009, 10:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Bugs in firmware I5

We should probably keep a list of the few latest firmwares so there's a quick reference for people. Post bugs in this thread, and if possible the coresponding thread dealing with the issue.

- The wierd lock button thing is back. You press it and it doesnt always unlock. You have to press it again, then wait and hold it down again. It wasnt there in H7

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- weird drops when on calls at random intervals
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- doesn't work properly with OpenGL. all 3D games are not playable.
(worked on G8)
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- Sound dropout in the middle of a call, which comes back after a few seconds. Its not reception related. (Old bug since first firmware)
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Phone function seems to freeze, the device still works fine but calls will fail to connect and you can't recieve them either. Trying to reboot the phone part by cylcing it in and out of flight mode makes no difference, and just hangs grey once you've selected that option from the menu (the menu you get when you press and hold the power button). The device continues to operate otherwise as normal, so you'd have no inclination this has happened until you try to make the call.

Only solution is to reboot the device entirely.

Interestingly I have also had the above scenario where the call will fail to connect (that is the phone just beeps at you) but trying it again it works fine. This isn't signal related as the signal is not low when this occurs.

Also suffered the same issues mentioned so far, except I'm not sure about the audio dropping in and out, as on the odd occurence I have had this it could possibly of been due to signal. I'm not dismissing it as a possibility though.
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- The wierd lock button thing is back. You press it and it doesnt always unlock. You have to press it again, then wait and hold it down again. It wasnt there in H7

I second that its pissing me off.
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I second that its pissing me off.
OT possibly, but this is prevalent in the I4 firmware too
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- When receiving calls the ringtone plays a few seconds after the phone starts to vibrate, and sometimes not at all.
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OT possibly, but this is prevalent in the I4 firmware too
The only firmware I saw it working properly was H7 (but I havnt tried H8). So did they fix it them break it again? :-/
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- Phone powers off. It doesnt reboot, its just shut down and off. I noticed this yesterday but thought maybe I had powered it off at some point and forgot to switch it back on. Today it was on a desk out of the case all day, and after about 4 hours it was off.
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- Phone powers off. It doesnt reboot, its just shut down and off. I noticed this yesterday but thought maybe I had powered it off at some point and forgot to switch it back on. Today it was on a desk out of the case all day, and after about 4 hours it was off.
I'm thinking that there are 2 separate bugs at play here. Yesterday I reported the reboot bug to samsung (it's still present in I5) with instructions to reproduce it. Apparently it is hidden somewhere in the Location API... In any case, your bug sounds more like a power failure than software bug, mostly because the phone appears to reboot after a crash and power failure wouldn't really count as a crash.

Of course this is just guesswork
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I'm thinking that there are 2 separate bugs at play here. Yesterday I reported the reboot bug to samsung (it's still present in I5) with instructions to reproduce it. Apparently it is hidden somewhere in the Location API... In any case, your bug sounds more like a power failure than software bug, mostly because the phone appears to reboot after a crash and power failure wouldn't really count as a crash.

Of course this is just guesswork
Just out of interest: What makes you trace it to the location API? Mine rebooted yesterday after listening to voicemails over the speaker. I listened to five voicemails then pressed the end call button, put the phone down and walked away. A couple of seconds later, I heard the Samsung start tune. It's the first time I have had a reboot for ages. Admittedly I'm not I5, I'm still H8, but I just wondered.
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Just out of interest: What makes you trace it to the location API? Mine rebooted yesterday after listening to voicemails over the speaker. I listened to five voicemails then pressed the end call button, put the phone down and walked away. A couple of seconds later, I heard the Samsung start tune. It's the first time I have had a reboot for ages. Admittedly I'm not I5, I'm still H8, but I just wondered.
After the reports from other users that their problems have disappeared or at least become less frequent I started to think about why my phone was still constantly restarting. After a bit of tinkering, I figured out that I had locale installed and it kept polling my location once in a while. After disabling locale the reboot problem got significantly less frequent.

Next logial step was to poke locale to poll the location more often and since locale updates its location every time you alter a profile, I started poking the profile. After a few iterations the phone restarted. After a while it was pretty easy to get the phone to reboot within a minute of starting to play with locale. The only thing I had set in locale was the location polling, so I'm blaming Location API

Sure enough, it could be somewhere else. It could be somewhere in various other APIs as well, but since I haven't had the time to create a proper test case app, I'm leaving it to Samsung to figure it out.
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Just had a call on my landline from the other half to tell me my mobile was going straight to voice mail again. Had to reboot it to get it work again
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Just had a call on my landline from the other half to tell me my mobile was going straight to voice mail again. Had to reboot it to get it work again
That is yet another bug. Unrelated to the other reboot bugs, i think it was described in some earlier post and if i remember correctly, there is even an app to poll that the GSM subsystem is actually online...

I thought it was repaired already though.
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That is yet another bug. Unrelated to the other reboot bugs, i think it was described in some earlier post and if i remember correctly, there is even an app to poll that the GSM subsystem is actually online...

I thought it was repaired already though.
Woah I missed the polling app bit, got a link?
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Woah I missed the polling app bit, got a link?
It took a bit of digging, but here it is:

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It took a bit of digging, but here it is:

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Fantastic, cheers.
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Not a bug but a question: did you notice any change in battery life with I5 version?
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I only just started removing the phone from the case and putting it on the desk (to get over the camera button problem), and now it drops to 50 to 60% pretty quick (battery widget, but the bar in the status bar looks like 90%), but then stays there for ageeeeeeeeeeeesssssss. Its been on 58% all day.
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I'm thinking that there are 2 separate bugs at play here. Yesterday I reported the reboot bug to samsung (it's still present in I5) with instructions to reproduce it. Apparently it is hidden somewhere in the Location API... In any case, your bug sounds more like a power failure than software bug, mostly because the phone appears to reboot after a crash and power failure wouldn't really count as a crash.

Of course this is just guesswork
Did a bit of investigative tinkering here and I think you're right about the location API. I have Locale installed too, and it does seem to happen after the phone figures out where it is (either with GSM masts or GPS) Hmm. Also: the losing the phone function issue has been around with my phone since I got it, and the "one ring and straight to voicemail" issue too. I'm on I5 now and they still happen, albeit less often.
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Upgraded to I5 and I'm still getting the dialpad lockout defect we reported in H6 (with the same fix working) I understand that this is not easily reproduced on all handsets, but there are at least 5 people in the dedicated thread reporting it.

Battery life is still piss poor too, but I'm not expecting this to change...

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as stated, i do not believe this issue is device software related. its happened to the same people on all versions of software and the people that dont have this bug have also been on the same software versions
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if you mean the lockout during out call where you are asked to press 1 or # etc' key - i had this problem but it was solved once i have changed "use touch feedback" (hope this is correct translation from hebrew menu...) to set it on and reboot.
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Hmm i have touch feedback on too - no problems here.

Ok so i'm getting really fed up with this 'voice' black out for a second or two in calls. I'm in the same place most of the day with FULL reception, so i know its not that. I'm going to switch to 3G and hope it goes away, otherwise i'm about to throw this phone out of the window.

EDIT: No problems in 3G so far. Todays a good test day, my phone wont stop ringing!
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Someone can state for sure that IH8 is better than I5?
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I had less problems with H7. Next restore, if the latest firmware isnt any good i'm going back to that.
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Define "better".

I think in honesty your best bet is just to try both.
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There was very little difference in performance or battery BUT in H7:

- The unlock button behaved properly for the first time. Unlock was faster and it wouldnt do that wierd thing where you need to press it for just the right amount of time.

- I consistantly had 40mb free on boot and ~30mb after normal use. Now I have ~30mb on boot, and ~20mb after normal use

- The phone didnt randomely power off

That's about all, but these little things are really anoyying for what seems very little or no benefits in I5
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So for a newbie who just got the phone do you advise to install H7 or I5
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H7, maybe even H8.

But since you're wiping now you might as well try I5 for half an hour, then H7 and compare yourself.
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So my uptime on my phone has been 48 hours and counting and I havent had a dropped call or other issue that I was having before. I did a factory reset and reinstalled everything. So the dropped call problem I was having I think is related to this maybe? I dont know but so far the phone is working very well. When is samsung going to come out with another firmware update. It had better include donut 1.6 as I just played with it on a mytouch 3g and i like the battery usage feature. I also like the voice search stuff although that isnt a big deal overall.
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There don't seem to be that many changes visible at user level:

Android 1.6 Platform Highlights | Android Developers
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no 3G network after full installation + reset factory defaults of I5? Is it true?
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if you mean the lockout during out call where you are asked to press 1 or # etc' key - i had this problem but it was solved once i have changed "use touch feedback" (hope this is correct translation from hebrew menu...) to set it on and reboot.
Have tried this but it does'nt work for me, just opening an app seems to block the dialerpad ,it's a real pain before each call have to think if I need the pad or not and use "force stop" if so
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After defining correct APN -
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I only just started removing the phone from the case and putting it on the desk (to get over the camera button problem), and now it drops to 50 to 60% pretty quick (battery widget, but the bar in the status bar looks like 90%), but then stays there for ageeeeeeeeeeeesssssss. Its been on 58% all day.
This is problem with the G8 too... That's why I've installed a BatWidg..but BatWidg is not precise also so you r hoping for longest run..

2nd battery in pocket is advised..
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Has anyone found a UK supplier of spare batteries?
Also is any "micro usb" cable suitable for the i7500 - I want one to leave at work and home. Or, failing that, a source for spare chargers?
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Has anyone found a UK supplier of spare batteries?
Also is any "micro usb" cable suitable for the i7500 - I want one to leave at work and home. Or, failing that, a source for spare chargers?
yeah i got my spare cable (samsung one died) from amazon as a car kit. obviously it was a bit expensive but imo worth it as i needed a car charger anyway but they dont seem to sell them like that any more.
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DURAGADGET USB Data sync / synchronisation cable for: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo

afaik the battery for the omnia 2 is the same
you might want to get the battery moddel number and put it into ebay/google and see what comes up
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I have had no luck locating spare batteries. I asked Seidio, and they said they had no plans to bring a high-capacity version to market for the Galaxy.

On the bright side -- yes, any standard micro USB cable will do, both for data and for charging. Finally something the industry, as a whole, is getting right.
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Original Samsung Battery for i900 Omnia II i7500 i8000 - eBay (item 280404515132 end time Oct-31-09 22:33:23 PDT)

our model is the AB653850CU
it is compatible with these battery types

these apparently work aswell
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=AB653850CE&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3286.m270 .l1313&_odkw=AB653850CU&_osacat=0
as they are same fit and spec, also 3.7v 1500mAh
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I have had no luck locating spare batteries. I asked Seidio, and they said they had no plans to bring a high-capacity version to market for the Galaxy.

On the bright side -- yes, any standard micro USB cable will do, both for data and for charging. Finally something the industry, as a whole, is getting right.
That is not entirely true. I bought a Motorola usb car charger and it only charged phone when it was powered off. When phone was on it would not charge only basically stop from depleting.

Anyone else find this?

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Posted from my galaxy.
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I bought a Motorola usb car charger and it only charged phone when it was powered off. When phone was on it would not charge only basically stop from depleting.
That is not the cable's fault -- more likely, it must be a 'dumb' charger. USB devices per default get 100mA from the host, but can request to get the full 500mA. When you plug your phone into a pc, it should be able to negotiate for that, but some (esp. car) chargers don't 'listen' to the USB. So if your phone consumes ~100mA at idle, there's your reason.
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That is not the cable's fault -- more likely, it must be a 'dumb' charger. USB devices per default get 100mA from the host, but can request to get the full 500mA. When you plug your phone into a pc, it should be able to negotiate for that, but some (esp. car) chargers don't 'listen' to the USB. So if your phone consumes ~100mA at idle, there's your reason.
Ahh righto

So is there any easy way to tell a smart charger from a dumb one?

Because I am still chasing a car charger for my galaxy

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i got one from amazon that doubled as a usb cable and home charge kit .
I can confirm that it does work and charges while powered on

Car/Mains/Sync USB Cable Charger for Samsung i7500: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
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Also motorola chargers do some stupid negotiation with some phones to force them into charge mode. Avoid them as replacements for other phones.
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as there are no samsung galaxy car chargers out yet, what do you recommend?

Rastaman-FB - although yours works can you confirm if i get an aussie one it will work to? as i doubt they will be same brand cause no point me buying from UK

i had one of those wall usb ones and it did the same thing, run but not charge (though it was an older one)

kam187 - what would you think would be better? a nokia one? ...?

or... i should just play with them until i find one that works maybe

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Hi All ,
Going back to bugs in I5, has anyone noticed when you turn on sync with samsungs "switchers" it dose not sync straight away (if not ever ,I gave up waiting) but if you use sync in settings it starts synchronising imediatley
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as there are no samsung galaxy car chargers out yet, what do you recommend?

Rastaman-FB - although yours works can you confirm if i get an aussie one it will work to? as i doubt they will be same brand cause no point me buying from UK

i had one of those wall usb ones and it did the same thing, run but not charge (though it was an older one)

kam187 - what would you think would be better? a nokia one? ...?

or... i should just play with them until i find one that works maybe

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The phone comes with a usb lead, so simply get a Car USB charger gadget (ebay -> "car usb charger", about 2), and use the supplied lead.
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The phone comes with a usb lead, so simply get a Car USB charger gadget (ebay -> "car usb charger", about 2), and use the supplied lead.
Even using the supplied lead, I got strange behaviour when using a car charger on my i7500. The car charger has a 5V USB out, so I attached the lead to that. The phone only charged up to 67% and then stopped. When I unplugged it, the phone rebooted four times before it settled down.
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