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Old September 13th, 2010, 10:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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We've heard of the Galaxy S, but what about Samsung's mid-range phone, the Galaxy 3? It's avaliable in my area for a price CHEAPER than what I paid for my i7500. Here are some links,

Specs,
Samsung I5800 Galaxy 3 - Full phone specifications

'Official' (?) site,
Samsung Galaxy 580 - Overview - Samsung Mobile UK

Reviews,
Samsung Galaxy 3 and Galaxy Apollo review: Galactic twins - GSMArena.com
Samsung Galaxy 3 Review (Phone Arena Reviews)

And, if I've got my information right, someone at xda-developers has rooted the phone. The one gripe I have with this is that LACK of AMOLED. Otherwise, it looks pretty nice. Supposedly (unconfirmed) it has divx support as well. (who uses that in this age of mp4's and mkv's I wonder...)

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yea, they are pushing Galaxy 3 & 5 a lot. But both phones lack a decent resolution (3 @ 240x400 and 5 @ 240x320). Text looks kinda jagged on these phones..
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Does anyone knows a good mp4 player for i7500?
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real player plays mp4 good.. again if you play mp4 in system mode in rock player, it plays awesome...
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Nice phones but no led flash and flash support (not unless you update to Froyo).
But I still prefer my Galaxy I7500 regardless of its lack of memory. And with our saviors alias developers we will also get Froyo (Android 2.2) on our phone + camera with effects.
I love my phone, so sue me.
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People would consider Samsung again? :O
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People would consider Samsung again? :O
Why not? Complain all we do about their software support, they DO make excellent hardware. Well, at least most of the time.

To put things (cost) into perspective,

Samsung Galaxy 3 : Rs11990/- (android 2.1)
HTC Wildfire : Rs14000/- (android 2.1)
Sony Ericsson X10 mini pro : Rs17000/- (cutie design, but still on Android 1.5 with claimed update to 2.x coming soon)

In the budget range above, the Galaxy 3 is a no-brainer. Heck, what competition are the rest really anyway?

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I'm seriously considering a Galaxy S, and I'm ashamed.
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Better hope that the support is (will be) better then for Galaxy I7500, or you're gonna be in deep s*** in the near future.
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There's a beta ROM from Samsung through samsungfirmware.com for Froyo on the Galaxy S.
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Biggest drawback for Galaxy 3 is the screen: WQVGA (400x240) instead of HVGA (480x320) in Galaxy 7500 and Spica.

Regarding support... it's tricky now for Android with all manufacturers for 3 BIG reasons:
-short android upgrade cycle (new version coming every 6 months),
-more powerfull HW becoming fast available like snapdragon/hummingbird,
-exploding market which forces OEM to focus on new products.

Things should settle down starting with 2011 as after Gingerbread Android will have yearly updates and from a HW point of view the first dual cores will be already on the market (not that 1Gh hummingbird is not enough). Basically we will have a product in maturity state.

Anyway for Galaxy S will be a Froyo update and considering the LARGE number of these sold all over the world I think we will see a lot of custom roms.
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Biggest drawback for Galaxy 3 is the screen: WQVGA (400x240) instead of HVGA (480x320) in Galaxy 7500 and Spica.

Regarding support... it's tricky now for Android with all manufacturers for 3 BIG reasons:
-short android upgrade cycle (new version coming every 6 months),
-more powerfull HW becoming fast available like snapdragon/hummingbird,
-exploding market which forces OEM to focus on new products.

Things should settle down starting with 2011 as after Gingerbread Android will have yearly updates and from a HW point of view the first dual cores will be already on the market (not that 1Gh hummingbird is not enough). Basically we will have a product in maturity state.

Anyway for Galaxy S will be a Froyo update and considering the LARGE number of these sold all over the world I think we will see a lot of custom roms.
TBH, I hope to see a large modding community for the I5800 too. It's a _very_ affordable phone, and one I'd seriously consider (especially if it really gets its promised 2.2 update).
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TBH, I hope to see a large modding community for the I5800 too. It's a _very_ affordable phone, and one I'd seriously consider (especially if it really gets its promised 2.2 update).
The fact that the phone got rooted (someone on xda-developers) even before it landed in my country is promising. In fact, jumping in now might be a good time to see the 'evolution' of a community.

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Samsung phone? Never again in my life! Android is great except when Samsung get their hands on the phone. I'm off to HTC as soon as possible.

p.s. "promised" update? LOL
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Why not? Complain all we do about their software support, they DO make excellent hardware. Well, at least most of the time.
Once bitten, twice shy Plus, I don't give money to companies that rip me off. Which is why I'll be leaving o2 as well.

edit; Also the point of an Android phone - it is the software. If you don't get upgrades, there's really no point.
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edit; Also the point of an Android phone - it is the software. If you don't get upgrades, there's really no point.
This I'll agree with. Though, in the android ecosystem, I've come to accept one thing. Manufacturer's rarely update android to the next major version number.

Consider this,
Samsung (for our i7500) DID eventually release an update from 1.5 -> 1.6
HTC updated their "Tatoo" line to 1.6 but NOT to 2.x (at least to my knowledge)
Sony Ericsson has their X10 series on 1.6 now (with a claimed update to 2.x only 2 quarters later ... wonder if it will really come?)

My point is that when you buy an android phone, it's best to get used to the major android version number you've got. (In our case, android 1.x). To go any higher, we'd need the communities help.

At least, that's my line of ... "compromise".

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This I'll agree with. Though, in the android ecosystem, I've come to accept one thing. Manufacturer's rarely update android to the next major version number.

Consider this,
Samsung (for our i7500) DID eventually release an update from 1.5 -> 1.6
HTC updated their "Tatoo" line to 1.6 but NOT to 2.x (at least to my knowledge)
Sony Ericsson has their X10 series on 1.6 now (with a claimed update to 2.x only 2 quarters later ... wonder if it will really come?)

My point is that when you buy an android phone, it's best to get used to the major android version number you've got. (In our case, android 1.x). To go any higher, we'd need the communities help.

At least, that's my line of ... "compromise".

-sigh-
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To a certain extent that's fair enough - but fact is, the versions that we've been given are broken and that's not good enough. Also, 1.6 is available in TWO locales...
Plus, those of us who got it early (in the UK) paid a fair bit of money for a rapdily dropped flagship phone. Plus I had to take a two year contract. Two years on 1.5? No thanks.

In summary, thank christ for Drakaz
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To a certain extent that's fair enough - but fact is, the versions that we've been given are broken and that's not good enough. Also, 1.6 is available in TWO locales...
Plus, those of us who got it early (in the UK) paid a fair bit of money for a rapdily dropped flagship phone. Plus I had to take a two year contract. Two years on 1.5? No thanks.

In summary, thank christ for Drakaz
I sympathize with your situation. 2 years on 1.5 would be a downer. On the good side, the i7500 was popular enough for people like Drakaz to get their hands on it, so in a way, you got lucky.

Me, I got suckered into buying the phone. When I went to the store, they said that "for a limited time, we're dropping the price of our flagship phone by 50% !!".

2 weeks later, I knew the truth - they were just clearing out the inventory.

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Yeah, they sold the i7500 here on o2 for a whopping three months... we were all suckered into buying the phone
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hello

I'm buying myself an android phone, and i have two (three) phones in my mind. LG GT540->I hate LG, so NOT. Now, for about same price I can buy i7500 and I5800. I don't like resolution on i5800, but it have a good HW. Now, what to choose: I7500 with Drakaz, or I5800??

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Galaxy I7500 has to little memory (can't do anything about that matter), proccesor is also weaker then the proccesor from Galaxy Spica I5800 (it can be O/C). Galaxys camera is 5MP (so higher then Spicas), AMOLED display,...

Because we are disappointed with Sam*censored, will advise you to buy some other phone and not Sam*censored (HTC Desire,...). But if you're stuck with Sam*censored then go for Galaxy S (if you can get your hands on it).

In the end regarding your choices...
...I'm for Galaxy I7500 with GAOSP by Drakaz.
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Galaxy I7500 has to little memory (can't do anything about that matter), proccesor is also weaker then the proccesor from Galaxy Spica I5800 (it can be O/C). Galaxys camera is 5MP (so higher then Spicas), AMOLED display,...

Because we are disappointed with Sam*censored, will advise you to buy some other phone and not Sam*censored (HTC Desire,...). But if you're stuck with Sam*censored then go for Galaxy S (if you can get your hands on it).

In the end regarding your choices...
...I'm for Galaxy I7500 with GAOSP by Drakaz.
lol, tnx

i would like to buy desire (galaxy S not, it looks like Iphone), but its to expensive. I just want to have a good phone, stable, and with no problems. I7500 Drakaz you say,, hmmm, i think that to.
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I agree with Lelouch. Samsung and Android are a no-no combination. A couple of friends have the LG GT540 and it's quite good. Has more RAM than our Galaxy. Eclair update will start rolling out soon. A much better phone than Galaxy. But IIRC, it has weaker Camera and Galaxy's AMOLED is better. But as for snapiness and speed, LG is better. Try to find a second-hand Hero. It feels much better than both these phones.
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I'm buying myself an android phone, and i have two (three) phones in my mind. LG GT540->I hate LG, so NOT. Now, for about same price I can buy i7500 and I5800. I don't like resolution on i5800, but it have a good HW. Now, what to choose: I7500 with Drakaz, or I5800??

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To anyone asking me, I would recommend them the i5800 and NOT the i7500.

Don't get me wrong guys, I'm proud of my i7500, but IMO if you're buying a new phone, you'd better be happy with the ROM you get, out-of-the-box and NOT depend on reflashing it!

Besides, if you don't like the ROM of the i8500, don't worry. I understand that it's been rooted at xda-developers and people there are bound to be working on better ROMs.

The i7500 is OLD. Even if you like the display, there's only so much overclock-ing can do. Get something else. (The earlier suggestion of HTC is ok too, consider the Wildfire phone)

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Hi! I'm currently thinking about getting one, but I have concerns.
I would be grateful, if you could help me out with my questions!
Will apps run correctly on WQVGA display, even if they supposed to work on HVGA display?
What about 3D capabilities? Could it run for example Mistyque, Quake 2-3, Raging Thunder...?
Does anyone know, when will the i5800 get Froyo?

Thank you, and sorry for my bad english
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Hi! I'm currently thinking about getting one, but I have concerns.
I would be grateful, if you could help me out with my questions!
Will apps run correctly on WQVGA display, even if they supposed to work on HVGA display?
What about 3D capabilities? Could it run for example Mistyque, Quake 2-3, Raging Thunder...?
Does anyone know, when will the i5800 get Froyo?

Thank you, and sorry for my bad english
I think the i5800 comes with Android 2.1 out-of-the-box. As for when it will get Froyo ... I have no idea.

But, if you're serious about these questions, you really need to ask them somewhere else. I suggest the xda-developers one, where they rooted the phone.

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Don't buy this piece of shit....internet voice calls doesn't works on galaxy 3 ....no fring, no talkonaut, no nimbuzz ....the fone switches itself into silent mode when the call is connected
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guys I am not a pro but according to me you can't depend on the company for updates. means think yourself, isn't 1.6 a good version? but we want 2.2 because its latest( &better off course) any company may give the update but by that time at least another updates would have come. so only way to get latest in time is developers. so even if you get galaxy3 you are not up to date. so according to me prioritize your needs and choose hardware and not software. if you are a fellow needing hardcore multitasking go for better hardware otherwise you will miss amoled screen with capacitative screen and higher resolution (and obviously drakaz).
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Don't buy this piece of shit....internet voice calls doesn't works on galaxy 3 ....no fring, no talkonaut, no nimbuzz ....the fone switches itself into silent mode when the call is connected
Can you clarify on this? Like are you on GPRS/3G/Wifi ?

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Through evrything GPRS/3G/WIFI ...i bought it for 12k nd sold it for 9.6k nd bought nokia c6 though its not soo xciting but love it for free voice calls...
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Can you clarify on this? Like are you on GPRS/3G/Wifi ?

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I tried on my Samsung i5801, with my Airtel connection, its EDGE Enabled.
The same symbol enabled while the call is connected. i can't hear any from the other end. I'm using Fring from Android market.

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I tried on my Samsung i5801, with my Airtel connection, its EDGE Enabled.
The silent mode is enabled while the call is connected. i can't hear any from the other end. I'm using Fring from Android market.

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Your trying internet calls on an EDGE connection? Hmm... not the most stable of things. I suggest you find a wifi zone and attempt off a wifi connection as well. If it still doesn't work, then we can conclude that something is wrong with your phone and you can take it in for technical servicing.

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I would not get another samsung,my last 3 were so Ill wait till my i7500 breaks and get a crackberry.
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I tried with skype on wifi.. From time to time the phone runs out of memory and you can't understand a thing of your conversation. Kinda disapointed. I swear i dont understand sometimes this phone. I could easly use skype on my Nokia e63, with half the CPU power and less RAM.
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Old February 1st, 2011, 02:00 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I have the Samsung GT-i5800, operating Android 2.1
Can you tell me how to connect to my PC? Do I use the USB to have access to the Android system inside the phone?
How do I edit and re-arrange the phone's front icon app appearance (similar to desk top icons)?
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Old February 1st, 2011, 10:29 PM   #39 (permalink)
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ahhhh if only the i7500 had more ram, at least 256mb, it would have been amazing! why didn't samsung add more memory???!!!
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Old February 3rd, 2011, 01:28 AM   #40 (permalink)
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The only way I buy another samsung phone is if Drakaz buys it as well.
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Old February 3rd, 2011, 06:31 AM   #41 (permalink)
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There is CyanogenMod also for custom ROM support. Currently he is making CM version 7.
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 04:53 PM   #42 (permalink)
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People would consider Samsung again? :O
dude samsung is OK if you lack 2 things:
1- budget
2- to like HTC
I F***ING HATE HTC i dont know why!! I JUST HATE IT!
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 07:17 PM   #43 (permalink)
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dude samsung is OK if you lack 2 things:
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2- to like HTC
I F***ING HATE HTC i dont know why!! I JUST HATE IT!
Holy necro! But no, you're wrong. Samsung still suck, and if HTC is a no go hell, try LG.
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Old March 28th, 2011, 04:16 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I am needing help with this phone. you dont get anywhere on the galaxy 3 forum. here si my topic please feel free to reply there or better here.

here si what i rote on teh galaxy forums

I have the galaxy 3 gt-i580 phone, with 8gig micro sd. i mainly run a ubuntu linux os, and sometimes vista.

1. Kies
kies 1.2 takes ages to connect to the phone. on my vista os.i plugin the sg3 phone and set it to kies. then kies says connecting device for over an hour. this does not seem right. also kies will easily pick up the media player and mas storage settings but says it kies does not support this mode. i reinstalled the driver that did not help at all. Solved partly I unmounted the sd card and now it accesses the sg3 y does it take so long to load with the 8gig card in. in this day and age it is terry weird thing.

I was prompted by kies 1.2 that there was an update so i installed it. I liked the look and feel being more like windows media player helped. but it did not pickup my galaxy 3 so i removed and reinstalled kies 1.2. is there a way to get kies 2.0 to pick up my phone.
also can i get kies to run in wine on linux.

My view of kies is it is not a good application. In this day and age if an app cant access a device its designed toyou fast then the application is not that good. also please provide support for my sg3 pnone in kies version 2.0 would help alot.

2. android 2.2
is there going to be an update for my

3. backup and reset.
is there a way to easily backup the os to my computer incase i have to reset the phone for any reason.

first how to reset this phone. 2nd how to backup apps and data. google data is backed up online. but i am talking about the installed apps and apps data, eg games, and other apps i have purchased, or got free, from the market.

4. how can i access the photos and movies taken on the phone on my ubuntu, or other linux, os. i tryed to access them on the card but i could not find them. if they are on the phone how can i have access to them without kies. even on another windows or mac operating systems that dont have kies.
this is useful if you don't have access to wirless internet to backup online.
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 08:23 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Uhm. hi guys. I just have here a question about my phone. what is happening to my phone when it heats even not use?
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Which phone do you use???
Did you maybe O/Ced it???
Maybe some processes are working in the background.
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I am using I5800. there was no apps on. it was just in my bag suddenly when i got it it was warm and the battery drained so fast.
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 03:37 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Maybe and just maybe, something in your bag by accidence touches your units key buttons. That way it prevents it from going to sleep and is always active in the bag. And the heat is probably from the battery being used constantly.
Does that only happens in the bag? If it does, try to find another location for it.
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uhm. yes, it usually happens when i get it from my bag.
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umh. il ask a question.
i forgot the pattern of the security lock of my phone. what do i do now?
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