The rumours began to spread over the net, like on hdblog: Samsung Galaxy 2 android foto e caratteristiche (the pic is NOT real, it's obviously modded picture of Nexus). So I've started the poll, just to know if you would buy this incoming product from our beloved company?
/me lies, just want to see that epic 100% 'no' answers.
I'm gonna kill you. You just saboutaged my poll! ;p
The question is, will the price difference be big enough between G2 and Nexus (and other Snapdragon+AMOLED+3,7" phones which are going to fall out in near time) to consider buying something maybe excellent in hardware, but with knowing of Galaxy 1's past. Still, it WILL have 2.1 at start.
hell no, maybe I'll consider buying it if Samsung would offer a discount for those who had the Galaxy, some kind of buy-back program, beta testers have to be rewarded somehow But since something like that is very unlikely to happen my next device will probably be the Bravo or the SE X10, this time i'll wait at least 2 months after their launch date
i will never buy another Samsung product. I talked to a friend in the industry who said that the Korean companies in general have a history of racing on to the next phone model and failing to support older ones.
everyone i know with an HTC product is happy with it (including him--and he doesn't work for HTC). they will get my money next time.
i will also look for a phone with a bigger user base. how many heroes are out there vs. galaxies? anyone know?
No. Never Samsung again! And big NO to Android also! And any of Google no-web-based software!
Good point. Only real contender is Maemo, but Nokia needs to prove they can update features of their phones for at least two years. Is there an update for N800 to latest N900 features? If no, then I say we have only Android atm.
Good point. Only real contender is Maemo, but Nokia needs to prove they can update features of their phones for at least two years. Is there an update for N800 to latest N900 features? If no, then I say we have only Android atm.
It can be. There are so-called "Hacker Edition" updates for older Maemo systems so Nokia maybe will upgrade N800.
With Android problem is with manufacturers - they prefer to create new device with next Android verions than updrade old one Google releases "naked" Android and then Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Acer etc must create updates for it's devices. And Nokia has only one Maemo5 device, and one N800 so upgrades are simpler
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Im not so much disappointed in Samsung, as i am in Android.
It just isn't what its supposed to be or what i was expecting it to be, too many things arent working or arent implemented.
A mayor disappointment for me was the lack of a normal VPN client/connectivity since i need it badly for my work. Most of the apps are just too simple, lacking advanced options, like the camera software, which should be more advanced, regardless of the hardware, and thats just an example, there is lots of issues like that. Also the customization of the phone was a disappointment, u cant even change themes, icons, fonts without proper payable apps, and that realy sux.
If you ask me, cupcake 1.5 is the alpha version of Android and with 2.1 we are geting a beta software, not even near a fully functional and more importantly useful operating system.
My friend owns a htc hd, running WinMo 6.5 and i can honestly say, although i dont like Micro$oft, that it eats Android for breakfast. I realy dont like WinMo and it sux coz its not open source, but still it works like it should most of the time, something i can't say for the Android.
I will continue to use the Galaxy till my subscription ends and closely monitor the development on the Android ( that is if we ever get a normal, fully working 2.x rom anyway ), but i doubt i will be buying an Android device ever again, regardless of the hardware manufacturer, because it is clearly inferior to most mobile operating systems.
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My friend owns a htc hd, running WinMo 6.5 and i can honestly say, although i dont like Micro$oft, that it eats Android for breakfast. I realy dont like WinMo and it sux coz its not open source, but still it works like it should most of the time, something i can't say for the Android.
You've clearly not used WinMo for any length of time. Wait till you discover it's frozen in your pocket for the nth time and you've missed multiple calls
If you ask me, cupcake 1.5 is the alpha version of Android and with 2.1 we are geting a beta software, not even near a fully functional and more importantly useful operating system.
I concur.
Lack of copy-paste in Gmail, messages disappearing in GTalk, new
applications not working on prior OS versions which have a
lifespan of six months or so... the whole Android experience is rather
beta-ish.
Would I buy from Samsung again? Sure. I don't get all emotional about
corporations. I definitely don't like how they handle public relations
with their customers (us) and I'd take that into consideration when
deciding how high a price I'm ready to pay.
Lack of copy-paste in Gmail, messages disappearing in GTalk, new
applications not working on prior OS versions which have a
lifespan of six months or so... the whole Android experience is rather
beta-ish.
Would I buy from Samsung again? Sure. I don't get all emotional about
corporations. I definitely don't like how they handle public relations
with their customers (us) and I'd take that into consideration when
deciding how high a price I'm ready to pay.
Xenon,
it's not about taking emotional about companies, it's about how they treat us, final costumers!
We all know that, definitely, everything is passive of mistake. I don't care how many bugs a product can have. I care about how the company is going to treat all of them!!
We can tolerate bugs, but we can not tolerate negligence!
That's why I will keep the System, but Samsung never more!
i won't, i'm keeping the first galaxy. if it won't get updated to 2.0 then i'll probably get the nexus. i think samsung shot itself in both feet by thinking "customers want 2.0? go and buy a new phone then!"
That's why I will keep the System, but Samsung never more!
I don't think you're being completely rational. There's always a price at
which you probably would buy Samsung, if only to immediately sell it to
somebody else at a profit. If Galaxy 2 retailed at $500 and you got an
offer to purchase one for $100 it would probably make sense to do it and
immediately sell it for, say, $350 - $450 or whatever would be the street
price.
And that was exactly my point. I would probably not pay a premium to
get Galaxy 2 as I would expect it to have lousy after-purchase support,
but there's always a price at which it would make sense to buy it.
Reselling not being the only valid reason. The lower the price, the lower
the expectations. I'd buy and use a crappy phone if the price was right.
But if you want to charge a premium price then building a nice hardware
package is not enough. You have to convince your customers that you're
going to fix all issues that appear (we can understand that issues do appear
despite extensive testing) and keep updating the phone with new OS
versions for at least a year and preferably while the hardware can handle it.
But if you want to charge a premium price then building a nice hardware
package is not enough. You have to convince your customers that you're
going to fix all issues that appear (we can understand that issues do appear
despite extensive testing) and keep updating the phone with new OS
versions for at least a year and preferably while the hardware can handle it.
I took out my old N95 and checked if there was updates for it and actually there was, one had came late december.
Phone is already 2,5 years old and Nokia did quit its production long time ago but they're still offering updates for the firmware... oh and new pc-suite "Ovi" works like a charm, it makes backups, connects the pc to the web using N95 as modem, saves pics automatically, works as SMS editor... it does everything unlike Samsung's crappy bloatware "pc-studio" and without hickups.
There's clear difference between that Finnish company and Korean Samsung; one takes care of their customers long after they got the moneys and one just grabs the money and runs away... a real disgrace.
My arguement isn't with Samsung really. It's more with my network provider O2. To be honest, they should have never sold the phone in the first place when they did. Just wasn't ready. Then there was never any contact from O2...I don't think they pushed Samsung hard enough to give us the answers we all wanted.
Samsung do have a major part to play obviously, but I love Samsung products. I'll continue to buy them. Out of all the products i've got, they've all worked perfectly (touch wood...) so they're allowed a slip up every now and again And it's not like my phones unusable is it? It just doesn't meet the demands that some people require...for me, it's not too bad. Battery life could be a LOT better, but in general, i'm happy with the phone.
Using Win 7 64bit and it "works" in it too... but why are you needing it? It won't do anything it should do anyways.
Well, I had installed it on the day I got the phone to update the firmware. That was before I found these forums ) I suppose it came in handy after all, as I had no problems with phone drivers.
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nokia n8
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Well, I had installed it on the day I got the phone to update the firmware. That was before I found these forums ) I suppose it came in handy after all, as I had no problems with phone drivers.
i couldn't even do that as my galaxy didn't have any csc by default, so the nps was (is) literally good for nothing
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Samsung is going to make Android-based TVs. TV is not something you replace at the same rate as your phone (though I personally use phones as for as long as possible, I guess a lot of people replace phones every 1-2 years, esp. those with contract phones). I wonder if Samsung Android TVs are going to be outdated and "under-supported" at the same rate as their phones do.
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Nexus One is buggy and does not have as good multi touch.
Samsung, hardware wise, this phone is amazing, good battery, good camera, nice screen, nice form factor... Better than the hero in almost all respects, aside ram ^^
But software support, for this device has been its downfall, however, with Android 2.2 on the horizon, It would depend on the price and screen quality/battery life to make me choose between this device, and the new DeLL, and HTC offerings.
I m not ready to crucify samsung yet over this, because my previous phones have been htc and samsung, (smart and non smart) and both companies have been awesome. I have a samsung TV, and a p3 which is well supported, so I ll give them the benefit of the doubt, and see how they progress.
I have to say that for me Samsung and o2's reputation was and forever will be tarnished with what was a sad excuse for a phone! After forking out £90 cash for the phone £45 for a case and signing up for a hefty 24 x £30 per month contract I was subjected to 3 replacement handsets from o2 every one of them had a call hanging problem a fundamental function of a phone in my opinnion! This really meant the handsets weren't fit for purpose! I Eventually i gave up after o2 became less co operative and bought myself a HTC Hero which was everything the Galaxy should have been! I've never looked back! Just took delivery of a Legend absolutely stunning phone!
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Im not so much disappointed in Samsung, as i am in Android.
You're disappointed because you only used GALAXY (which is a piece of s#1t). Before I got an DESIRE I was thinking the same thing.
Android 2.1 is way more stable and usable compared to 1.5 or winmo which is useless at best. I had an FS n560 and I practically had no use for it except GPS navigation (and I'm a network administrator). I'm using android now and I have lots of apps I use daily (mostly for entertaining but for work too).
I have to agree with you about one thing....more and more things are pushed to the market in their beta or even alfa state and they are marketed as "final product". Android was (and it's still is...a bit) beta software. I have high hopes for v2.2
I love Android, and I love the Galaxy. What I hate is the complete lack of support from Samsung. For this reason alone, I doubt I'd be buying another Samsung handset unless they seriously buck their ideas up. That said, if they -do- sort it out, I'm not one to hold a grudge, everyone makes mistakes.
The situation with NPS is a perfect example of the problem. A major manfacturer releasing a 'flagship' product with PC software which is fundementally broken out of the box is pretty diabolical, and it staggers me that this could ever have happened. However, not having fixed NPS six months down the line isn't just poor service, it's practically criminal. If I was inclined to get rid of the Galaxy (which I'm not, I really like it), I'd be looking at persuing a claim under the Sale of Goods act. NPS provides core functionality and it's very clearly not fit for purpose.
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I would.
I don't really understand the hate for Samsung. It's such a big corporation, you won't deal with the same people at all if you buy a cellphone or a television from them, their support might be better in other areas.
I like my Galaxy. It had BMIK6 out of the box, battery life was good, and all my friends were astonished by all the apps and functions, such as the gps which is working great.
What I didn't like, however, was the lack of 3D support, lack of WPA2 in stock firmware, low RAM, and the fact that I bought Android because I thought it would be updated as time went on. I knew about the RAM before buying, but that's it.
And whilst 2.1 looks great, well, it's not such an important update, for me anyway. I was pretty disappointed when I saw that I still couldn't get my wifi to work correctly at school. (At least with 1.6 I can see the network...)
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But since something like that is very unlikely to happen my next device will probably be the Bravo or the SE X10, this time i'll wait at least 2 months after their launch date 
They've lost my business forever.
Google releases "naked" Android and then Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Acer etc must create updates for it's devices. And Nokia has only one Maemo5 device, and one N800 so upgrades are simpler 
