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Old September 16th, 2009, 09:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Problem: i7500 turns on for only a second or two

So I flashed my phone early this morning with H7 (I'm in the US - I don't think the H8 with that German/UK CSC file will work for me). Was running GREAT! Seriously, I finally was able to get Internet anywhere and have Market and use the phone like I'd wanted to when I bought it.

Then about an hour ago - coincidentally, shortly after I bought my first paid Market application - I picked it up and it was unresponsive. It had shut itself off. I push and hold the power button, and the "Samsung Galaxy" splash screen appears for a second or two and then it dies. When I try plugging it in, the same thing happens with the battery icon: shows up for a second or two and then dies.

I was able to get into download mode stably, so I tried to reflash. Odin said everything went fine, but the insta-dying remains. Any ideas? :|

Edit: When it turns off in the scenarios above, a small "thud" is detectable. *sigh*

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Old September 17th, 2009, 03:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So I flashed my phone early this morning with H7 (I'm in the US - I don't think the H8 with that German/UK CSC file will work for me). Was running GREAT! Seriously, I finally was able to get Internet anywhere and have Market and use the phone like I'd wanted to when I bought it.
You can use the H8 image as well, just remove the cache.img file from the tar package before flashing and you get a clean installation without the CSC. Although, the CSC doesn't really change anything. Only thing it appears to add is the APN settings for O2 Germany if you are in that network. The APN Settings are absent in finland, even with the CSC.

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I was able to get into download mode stably, so I tried to reflash. Odin said everything went fine, but the insta-dying remains. Any ideas? :|

Edit: When it turns off in the scenarios above, a small "thud" is detectable. *sigh*
Are you sure that you don't have an empty battery. I've noticed a few times when the phone drains more power from the battery than the charger can provide and i've ended up with an empty battery even while the charger is connected.

Other than that, I don't have any new information for you. Try doing a factory reset on the phone (and take a nandroid backup of it before you do that), it might help.

Also, the "thud" appears to be normal. My phone does that even if it's shut down normally.
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Old September 17th, 2009, 04:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Tried reflashing up to H8, letting it charge for hours . . . still nothing. The phone bricked itself with no warning and with no perceptible action on my part (if it was from the first flash attempt, I would assume that it would have bricked immediately).

Time to call my retailer.
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Old September 17th, 2009, 12:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Unhappy same here

Exactly the same problem here, updated the phone, all seemed ok for a few days and suddenly it died.

not booting only showing the splash for a few seconds and dead again, tried hard reset with the buttons works for 2 seconds and dies. no way to restore anything.. BRICKED.

I didn't install anything. didn't root the phone nothing.. and it just suddenly died.

I brought it back to my retailer and they send it to repair.

status for now:

''
Logistiek - Product verstuurd naar interne reparatiedienst 16-9-2009 2:12:58 Logistiek - Product ontvangen door reparatieafdeling 16-9-2009 7:25:13 Reparatie repair center - In behandeling 17-9-2009 11:57:03 Reparatie - Component repair 17-9-2009 13:00:02
''

So it seems they are repairing it.. one thing i am considering is that i will be selling the phone asap when it comes back. this i have never seen before.. must be something wrong with the hardware or with android (something is unstable and not release worthy)..

Hopefully no more users will experience this//

bad thing is i love the screen and the ease of use.. but this is to scary... what you peeps think?
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Old September 17th, 2009, 02:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Luckily the people I bought the phone from (Auroracell.com) are giving me superb customer service. They're dealing with Samsung for me (since Samsung USA doesn't have this phone listed anywhere on their site, that's a relief). I've only had the damn thing 2 weeks, and they'll agree to take it back if there isn't some Samsung repair outlet closer. It's got a 1-year warrantee, so things should be fine. I'll keep the thread posted.
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ok.. got the folowing status update:

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Servicehandeling: Boardswap

Servicehandeling: Software update

Additionele informatie: Nieuwe softwareversie: XEN XEB I7500XXIH2

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So i got a new software version. anyone heard of that before? And wow a boardswap. dang...

Should be getting it back on friday or so.. will let you all know how my i7500 works again...
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 12:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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thats early testing code by the looks of things.
if it was new it would be II not IH
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You can use the H8 image as well, just remove the cache.img file from the tar package before flashing and you get a clean installation without the CSC. Although, the CSC doesn't really change anything. Only thing it appears to add is the APN settings for O2 Germany if you are in that network. The APN Settings are absent in finland, even with the CSC
people keep saying this but its an assumption.

Facts are this, market allowed me to access certain files that can no longer be accessed while im
using the german csc.
when a uk update is available ill need to flash to a uk rom in order for me to recieve an update when they fix nps.
csc's are trouble causers so never install the csc
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The market uses a few pieces of info to show you certain apps. like the fingerprint in build.prop and the mcc/mcn info. When you flash a csc, the fingerprint changes.
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people keep saying this but its an assumption.
I stand corrected. I took apart the cache.img. It contained a signed zip file (oddly, they have OTA updates inside the custom built tar system) which did replace quite a bit of files in the system partition (in addition to the normal CSC customizations). So yes, the CSC package does change more than the APN and default settings.

Sadly NPS will only work when a CSC is installed. Without it, you can't get updates through NPS.
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I stand corrected. I took apart the cache.img. It contained a signed zip file (oddly, they have OTA updates inside the custom built tar system) which did replace quite a bit of files in the system partition (in addition to the normal CSC customizations). So yes, the CSC package does change more than the APN and default settings.

Sadly NPS will only work when a CSC is installed. Without it, you can't get updates through NPS.
how can you take an .img apart?
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how can you take an .img apart?
Depends a lot on the image.

If the image is a filesystem image and in yaffs format (like the filesystems in android devices tend to be) you can use unyaffs to extract the contents.

If the image is a boot image (like recovery.img), you are looking at merged kernel + initrd package. I haven't looked in to taking one of these apart, but it shouldn't be too hard =)

Then there is the baseband image which is a special image for the phone itself. I haven't even tried to guess the internals for this one =)
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tell you what, i want to see what is saved in the data.img that the nandroid creates! any ideas?
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tell you what, i want to see what is saved in the data.img that the nandroid creates! any ideas?
Looks like you can extract it with unyaffs.

It's kind of odd that unyaffs is able to extract it since /data is an ext3 partition (at least my phone says so). Anyway, unyaffs is the tool for you.
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There's instructions on here.

HOWTO: Unpack, Edit, and Re-Pack Boot Images - Android Wiki

's all a bit beyond me at this stage though. I'm a geek, but my *nix knowledge isn't as strong as it could be.
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