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Old April 3rd, 2010, 01:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Does Sprint charge you extra for tethering?

I remember last year when I wanted to tether my blackberry to my laptop I read that i would have to get an addition to my plan that was like $25 to tether or something. What's the deal now with Sprint and tethering phones. I currently have the Unlimited plan with 450 minutes.

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it's still not technically allowed by sprint(for free that is) but a lot of ppl do it anyways using pdanet or similar programs.
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sprint does have a plan for phones that can tether using some sort of sprint software. but using PDAnet, azilink or some other third party software they do not.
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So what happens if you get caught using pda net?
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sprint does have a plan for phones that can tether using some sort of sprint software. but using PDAnet, azilink or some other third party software they do not.
Actually sprint no longer allows tethering.

(They want to sell data plans)

If sprint catches you, they kill your account.

Just don't tether alot, and you'll be fine.
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Actually sprint no longer allows tethering.

(They want to sell data plans)

If sprint catches you, they kill your account.

Just don't tether alot, and you'll be fine.

i use to tether all the time and used well over 200 gb of data and never got a warning and did it for a few months. now with that being said i ave heard of sprint calling and "checking up and giving warnings" but i never got one and like i said i used to dl alot of torrents and other things with no problems at all.
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i use to tether all the time and used well over 200 gb of data and never got a warning and did it for a few months. now with that being said i ave heard of sprint calling and "checking up and giving warnings" but i never got one and like i said i used to dl alot of torrents and other things with no problems at all.
Head over to Sprintusers.com

The cracking down has been a semi-recent thing. And they started really enforcing it after the recent 5GB cap has been added.
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i think they got rid of tethering because they now have specific devices for it as well as 4g which is much better for tethering (for carrier and customer)

the evo will have "MiFi" hotspot built in which is tethering so i think their game plan is to just allow it on devices actually made for tethering / 4g devices

i wouldn't worry too much though just don't over do it and make sure your in a 3g area or else they might start to notice
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up until about 2 months ago i tethered at work everyday. i'd only use it for casual browsing and would only rack up about 2-3gb a month but i'd tether for about 5-7 every day. never a warning. never had any problems..
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I used to tether before 'tethering' existed. When I was a rep with AT&T back about 10 years ago, we used the data transfer cables they'd send for transferring numbers out of an old phone to a new one to hook to our laptops - then use the internal WAP connection on the phone as a wonderful 56k modem!

As far as today goes though, there's actually a procedure that most carriers use for tethering prevention...

5GB is the target number they use - unless you crank up over that they won't flag your account. Once you are flagged, you will first be throttled (data speeds will be cut) and they will monitor you for 90 days. If you continue to go over the 5GB mark, they will supposedly begin checking the IP's of the sites you are visiting. If they find things like MegaUpload, LimeWire, RapidShare or other Torrent sites, you will get dropped like a rock...

Other than that, with the streaming apps now, there's not much they will do to you - except for charge you for any overages over the "mythical 5GB cap" that they use on their Mobile Broadband Devices. Unless 4G gets here before then, in which case, they may not even care at all with the cheaper prices that affords them.

As far as the 200GB's? 200 GB's is a gigantic amount of data and will get your booted off Comcast, Xfinity, Fios, DSL or just about any other non-business carrier today. I have no clue how you snuck that much data off on a cell connection, but on Sprint I can't even download fast enough to get to that number. I think if I ran mine 24/7 for 30 days, I'd probably be able to hit about 40GB per month simply due to connection speed limitations - could just be the Moment is that slow on the data transfer though?
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Head over to Sprintusers.com

The cracking down has been a semi-recent thing. And they started really enforcing it after the recent 5GB cap has been added.


been there don't believe for one second that they can tell you how to use your plan if you pay for unlimited data phone and everything else like i do and have for over 6 years, sorry but if sprint was to call me tomorrow and tell me that i needed to quit using my data plan then i would just cancell my entire plan which by the way costs my almost 200 a month its not like they can tellur tethering they just see that ur data has gone up.
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been there don't believe for one second that they can tell you how to use your plan if you pay for unlimited data phone and everything else like i do and have for over 6 years, sorry but if sprint was to call me tomorrow and tell me that i needed to quit using my data plan then i would just cancell my entire plan which by the way costs my almost 200 a month its not like they can tellur tethering they just see that ur data has gone up.
Actually, yes they can. Tethering is against the ToS.

Also, the moment speeds are just fine. I get a steady 3meg down and .5 to 1 meg up. Same for my TP and mogul.
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Actually, yes they can. Tethering is against the ToS.

Also, the moment speeds are just fine. I get a steady 3meg down and .5 to 1 meg up. Same for my TP and mogul.


how can they tell?
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Wow I used over 2,687,198 kb this month and haven't herd anything from sprint. I use the same amount of data each month. I'm on a unlimited plan so I doubt there is a 5gig cap, maybe for other plans who knows. Ill be the first to leave sprint if they were to tell me anything about my data usage.
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Before my moment days I would tether constantly with my sanyo 9000 amd all winmo devices...I always exceded the cap when there was one but was never questioned about it other than a tech rep saying wow you love the web don't you...I replied with yeah sprint tv and radio are my fav apps...he came back with yeah I can see those apps adding up the data...so unless sprint wants to look deep enough...they can't really tell nor do they care if its not abused...if they do ask justify the data usage by saying you use the sprint tv/radio app a lot and they will leave it at that.
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Wow I used over 2,687,198 kb this month and haven't herd anything from sprint. I use the same amount of data each month. I'm on a unlimited plan so I doubt there is a 5gig cap, maybe for other plans who knows. Ill be the first to leave sprint if they were to tell me anything about my data usage.
Ummm, 2.6GB isn't enough to trigger anything with Sprint... You need to at least double that for them to start looking at you...
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Ummm, 2.6GB isn't enough to trigger anything with Sprint... You need to at least double that for them to start looking at you...
Ha stole the words out of my mouth.

How do they determine it? Packet inspection. They look for ips you've visited etc. Also, they watch the history. If you suddenly spike out of nowhere, that grabs their attention.
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I used to tether before 'tethering' existed. When I was a rep with AT&T back about 10 years ago, we used the data transfer cables they'd send for transferring numbers out of an old phone to a new one to hook to our laptops - then use the internal WAP connection on the phone as a wonderful 56k modem!

As far as today goes though, there's actually a procedure that most carriers use for tethering prevention...

5GB is the target number they use - unless you crank up over that they won't flag your account. Once you are flagged, you will first be throttled (data speeds will be cut) and they will monitor you for 90 days. If you continue to go over the 5GB mark, they will supposedly begin checking the IP's of the sites you are visiting. If they find things like MegaUpload, LimeWire, RapidShare or other Torrent sites, you will get dropped like a rock...

Other than that, with the streaming apps now, there's not much they will do to you - except for charge you for any overages over the "mythical 5GB cap" that they use on their Mobile Broadband Devices. Unless 4G gets here before then, in which case, they may not even care at all with the cheaper prices that affords them.

As far as the 200GB's? 200 GB's is a gigantic amount of data and will get your booted off Comcast, Xfinity, Fios, DSL or just about any other non-business carrier today. I have no clue how you snuck that much data off on a cell connection, but on Sprint I can't even download fast enough to get to that number. I think if I ran mine 24/7 for 30 days, I'd probably be able to hit about 40GB per month simply due to connection speed limitations - could just be the Moment is that slow on the data transfer though?


ok welll i have comcast and the limit is 250 gb last moth i used 210gb my computer stays on and and connected pretty much 24/7 i do use a lot of torrents also.
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ok welll i have comcast and the limit is 250 gb last moth i used 210gb my computer stays on and and connected pretty much 24/7 i do use a lot of torrents also.
What does this have to do with tethering?
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zcarman posted that the limit on comcast,verizon,and acouple other was 200 and thats fine but he was wrong.like i said i have tethered with the past 3 devices i have owned "the tp and the pre" and i used the shit out of the data including about 100 wii game downloads and more than enough movie downloads.within about 3 months time i have used more than 100 gb worth of data so how can anyone even say that there is a limit sry i just don't see it!!!!! if they were so worried about there 5 gb cap then what i guess i just flew under their radar right!!!!!i also have the the mifi from sprint and no there is no 5 gb cap on it the deal is that if you go over the 5 gb cap you pay for it but like most people i have the everything plan so i can and i will use as much as i want and if thats a problem with sprint then they need to change their plans to say just that"its the everything plan just don't go over the time limits we set" cause if thats the case then i want a refund plus a lower monthly plan.......
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zcarman posted that the limit on comcast,verizon,and acouple other was 200 and thats fine but he was wrong.like i said i have tethered with the past 3 devices i have owned "the tp and the pre" and i used the shit out of the data including about 100 wii game downloads and more than enough movie downloads.within about 3 months time i have used more than 100 gb worth of data so how can anyone even say that there is a limit sry i just don't see it!!!!! if they were so worried about there 5 gb cap then what i guess i just flew under their radar right!!!!!i also have the the mifi from sprint and no there is no 5 gb cap on it the deal is that if you go over the 5 gb cap you pay for it but like most people i have the everything plan so i can and i will use as much as i want and if thats a problem with sprint then they need to change their plans to say just that"its the everything plan just don't go over the time limits we set" cause if thats the case then i want a refund plus a lower monthly plan.......
I highly dount you tethered to do all that. Comcast doesn't even offer wireless service. you guys do know there's a difference between landline and wireless....right?

Besides, how, exactly, do you tether to a wii?
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I highly dount you tethered to do all that. Comcast doesn't even offer wireless service. you guys do know there's a difference between landline and wireless....right?

Besides, how, exactly, do you tether to a wii?

and i guess you didn't really reaf the post at no point did i say i tethered to a wii i said i tethered to DOWNLOAD wii games.and yes your right comcast doesn't offer wireless unless you use a wireless router.i had documented my data usages when i was tethering on my pre i went back and this was the daa usage in january 94718538 and i never heard a word from sprint about it.
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and i guess you didn't really reaf the post at no point did i say i tethered to a wii i said i tethered to DOWNLOAD wii games.and yes your right comcast doesn't offer wireless unless you use a wireless router.i had documented my data usages when i was tethering on my pre i went back and this was the daa usage in january 94718538 and i never heard a word from sprint about it.
If this is true, id expect a phone call soon. Sprint aso reserves the right to charge you par per nyte for an excess of the 5gb softcap, if it is deemed you are abusing the service. 13 times the limit, is clearly abuse. At $.05 per kb, at 94000000 kb, they could legally charge you 4.7 MILLION dollars. 100% legal. However, they realize that would be ludacris, and they cap it at $250.00. Your treading dangerous waters bud. Is it really worth it to tempt them?

Also, you don't know much about technology I assume. Even if your using a wireless router, that doesn't mean you have wireless internet service.
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[quote=IOWA;527896]If this is true, id expect a phone call soon. Sprint aso reserves the right to charge you par per nyte for an excess of the 5gb softcap, if it is deemed you are abusing the service. 13 times the limit, is clearly abuse. At $.05 per kb, at 94000000 kb, they could legally charge you 4.7 MILLION dollars. 100% legal. However, they realize that would be ludacris, and they cap it at $250.00. Your treading dangerous waters bud. Is it really worth it to tempt them?

Also, you don't know much about technology I assume. Even if your using a wireless router, that doesn't mean you have wireless internet service.[/quote


well when u assume you really do make an ASS OUT OF YOU AND ME but anywho i do understand that a wireless router doesn't give you a wireless provider.how am i treading on dangerous waters i pay for my service just like everyone else i should be able to use it any way i want.i don't use that much now because i got into a conversation with one of the devs at pre central and it's like this if i'm using that much and say 10 others are using that same amount its clogging up the towers and its not really fair to everyone on sprint but i did do it as a test just to see if i would get a call or "warning" from sprint i used those same number roughly for 4 months and have never heard a word from sprint!!!! thats my point this question has been brought up on every fourum and there is always the same answers 1 says yes the other says no wether there is or isn't.... well in my own study no they don't charge anything...i can't speak for anyone else...
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If this is true, id expect a phone call soon. Sprint aso reserves the right to charge you par per nyte for an excess of the 5gb softcap, if it is deemed you are abusing the service. 13 times the limit, is clearly abuse. At $.05 per kb, at 94000000 kb, they could legally charge you 4.7 MILLION dollars. 100% legal. However, they realize that would be ludacris, and they cap it at $250.00. Your treading dangerous waters bud. Is it really worth it to tempt them?

Also, you don't know much about technology I assume. Even if your using a wireless router, that doesn't mean you have wireless internet service.[/quote


well when u assume you really do make an ASS OUT OF YOU AND ME but anywho i do understand that a wireless router doesn't give you a wireless provider.how am i treading on dangerous waters i pay for my service just like everyone else i should be able to use it any way i want.i don't use that much now because i got into a conversation with one of the devs at pre central and it's like this if i'm using that much and say 10 others are using that same amount its clogging up the towers and its not really fair to everyone on sprint but i did do it as a test just to see if i would get a call or "warning" from sprint i used those same number roughly for 4 months and have never heard a word from sprint!!!! thats my point this question has been brought up on every fourum and there is always the same answers 1 says yes the other says no wether there is or isn't.... well in my own study no they don't charge anything...i can't speak for anyone else...
Mmm no, I just believe your the one who looks like the ass here.

And you pay for your service, and can do whatever you want right? as long as you abide by the terms of service

Perhaps you should read your terms of service. Which is legally binding by the way.

You you lease a car, and they say you can drive it for up to 36000 miles, for x amount per month, and its .10 a mile after that limit, well, if you go over the limit guess what happens?

YOU GET CHARGED FOR OVERAGES

same exact thing bud.

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I highly dount you tethered to do all that. Comcast doesn't even offer wireless service. you guys do know there's a difference between landline and wireless....right?

Besides, how, exactly, do you tether to a wii?

you know comcast has been selling wireless since summer 2009?
im a moment owner and signed up to this forum to clear this up for you, maybe you live under a rock, but i dont know you, but one thing i hate to read is people so out of knowing what they are taking about

but hey just so you dont think im bs'ing google it, its called high speed 2go its 3g/4g this isnt new news but maybe to you

if you need the comcast link i can give that to you but im pretty sure you know how to google

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and you being from a city where 4g coverage you should know this since your from Chicago from what you put your location down as, im sorry to make this my first post but i call it how i see it
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you know comcast has been selling wireless since summer 2009?
im a moment owner and signed up to this forum to clear this up for you, maybe you live under a rock, but i dont know you, but one thing i hate to read is people so out of knowing what they are taking about

but hey just so you dont think im bs'ing google it, its called high speed 2go its 3g/4g this isnt new news but maybe to you

if you need the comcast link i can give that to you but im pretty sure you know how to google

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and you being from a city where 4g coverage you should know this since your from Chicago from what you put your location down as, im sorry to make this my first post but i call it how i see it
Then perhaps if you googled it, you would see it is just rebranded clearwire.

Also, it is not marketed at all. I am not god. Things like this just don't pop into my head without some sort of marketing or word of mouth.

So yes, no marketing and little media coverage clearly mean I'm living under a rock.

Sorry, "but I just call it how I see it"

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LOL it is marketed so saying it isnt your wrong again, yes they did invest in clear(clearwire) to be able to provide this service, they still providing it period. (comcast i think invested up to 1 billion, i forget the number offhand)

maybe you need to go back to school, as you cant teach anything if thats how slick you think you are.

but thats ok, maybe you dont know how to follow tech news
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What exactly constitutes data usage? Cause I use my 3g network to browse the web everyday?
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What exactly constitutes data usage? Cause I use my 3g network to browse the web everyday?
Data is anything internet related pretty much. Syncing, web browsing, streaming media etc.


Droidjohn, it is not marketed in chicago, so my statement stands. Why are you making a point to argue something completely irrelevant?

If microsoft created windows super duper 8, and only marketed it in washington d.c., while technically being marketed, it holds no water in the real world. So your rhetoric is also, a moot point here.

Perhaps you should look up the differemce between reselling a service, and providing one.


But hey, maybe you don't know the business world so well, so its ok

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they invested in clear to be able to provide the service they are not reselling it as they are a partner in the service

you think your right in everything you do and cant say hey i was wrong lets move on, but again some people are who they are

but its ok guy, you might have honestly thought your right

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your right about your city, it hasnt been marketed there, i at least know when to say i was wrong
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they invested in clear to be able to provide the service they are not reselling it as they are a partner in the service

you think your right in everything you do and cant say hey i was wrong lets move on, but again some people are who they are

but its ok guy, you might have honestly thought your right
Let's take a look at this for a moment.

They are buying service from clearwire, and selling it under the comcast brand. Sounds like reselling to me! (And most people)

Just because you invest in something doesn't make you a partner.
(I bought some walmart stock so now I'm a partner yay!)

And yep comcast 2go is really marketed here in chicago. That's why its not in the media, (barring the last day or so, if it even aired) location based internet ads, etc. But I only live in chicago so you must definately know what's being marketed here better than I.

And out of your own... post.

"But its ok guy, you might have honestly thought your right"
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i said your right about your city, but comcast doesnt resell a service, but to stop this as you will think your right till the day you die, i dont even care, but if you honestly think your right do a little research into it and you will see, thou given your post you wont ever say your wrong

but in the end i could care less what you think you know
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i said your right about your city, but comcast doesnt resell a service, but to stop this as you will think your right till the day you die, i dont even care, but if you honestly think your right do a little research into it and you will see, thou given your post you wont ever say your wrong

but in the end i could care less what you think you know
Meh I started my post before you did your edit. So moot point I suppose.

Please go look up the definitions for the words reselling and rebranding, and report your findings.

And a quick fyi, I have conceded a few times when I was wrong. Like I didn't know comcast "offered" wireless broadband. And in fact, has nothing to do with this thread, as I said "wireless service" which are two while related different things. You don't tether with wireless broadband, and when you came at me sideways like I'm supposed to know what's offered halfway across the country and not here, is somehow my fault.

In closing, I feel you just wanted an argument, and cannot accept the fact you were not and are not correct, so you throw it in a different direction hoping for a different outcome.

So let's get this thread back on topic, maybe a mod can remove these dumb posts, as the comcast meager wireless broadband offering have absolutely nothing to do with tethering from your wireless service.
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Ok, let me clarify a few things...

1) I never said the limit on Verizon, Comcast, or a FIOS or DSL company was 200GB... I simply stated unless you are on a business account, they will throttle you and boot you off their network if you used 200GB in a month consistently.

2) Comcast/Xfinity 2 Go is available in most markets. It's Clear's 4G/3G coverage (Sprint) marketed by Comcast/Xfinity. According to the acceptable use agreement you are limited to 5GB of data transfers while on the network, and 100MB while on roaming.

http://media2.comcast.net/anon.comcastonline2/support/HighSpeed2Go/ComcastHS2GoAUP0629.pdf

3) Verizon DSL/FIOS - identifies an acceptable means of termination as anything that "generate excessive amounts of email or other Internet traffic" which is not given a number - but 200GB is enough to trigger it. Also, any torrent sites will show - unless you are on a secure business account - which they are not allowed to trace IP access.

4) Unlimited data is only allowed to approved applications on the device. Not all market apps are approved.

5) Tethering is only allowed 'legitimately' using the carrier's software - and you are bound to purchase that access at an additional charge. 3rd party software that you install will not give you the data safeguards (like the 250MB maximum overage charge) and may result in a larger bill.

6) Keep this on topic - the original question was "Does Sprint charge extra for tethering?" and the answer to that is very simple - YES. It's about $30 a month additional to access your phone as a modem to your laptop.

7) "They can't tell what I used my data connection for..." is one of the dumbest quotes I have ever seen. All ISP's track all users now to help the police track down rapists, killers, and many other law breakers. If you ever doubt this, think about what your phone CAN'T download... SWF files, if one shows up as accessed, they know you tethered... WMV/WMA files - you tethered... SRC files - tethered... Pretty simple for any IT guys to see what you downloaded - and all the carriers track this to keep track of the Pay-By-KB customers records.

Just thought I'd try to clarify a bit there... Thanks!
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sorry for the bump but um i discovered the ability to share internet on my phone yesterday and downloaded a game called maplestory last night which is near 2.19 gb. then i realized they could charge me for this but then im like how much would the fine be? my plan is this : Sprint Everything Data Family 1500 so im not sure if it covers internet sharing with another computer.

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So will Sprint charge Me if I tether with my HTC hero even if I have an unlimited data plan? Can I have a straight foward answer please.
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So will Sprint charge Me if I tether with my HTC hero even if I have an unlimited data plan? Can I have a straight foward answer please.
No one can predict what Sprint will do with you... but in my experience they have never charged me for tethering. I only do it a few days a month at most... only when I travel, and I don't use it for huge amounts of bandwidth.
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