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Old September 10th, 2012, 04:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Samsung Transform Ultra - Android System uses 80+% of Battery Life???

Hey, i purchased the Samsung Transform Ultra from Boost mobile a few months ago. I really like the device, minus the excessive battery drain. The phone is usually dead by noon (work starts at 6:30am) with light-medium use. My previous phone the Incredible 1 would at least last 12 hours with light-medium use. I get roughly 2-4 bars of signal inside at work... Anyways, I looked at the battery usage and it shows that 82% of the battery is used by the Android System. Other phones I've used show this at below 10%. Anyone have any insight as to why this is showing this.

FYI, I recently factory reset my phone and I was only using it today to run the initial setup and send a few text messages, so I don't think its caused by a process hog app. Anyone have an insight as to why the Android system is using so much of the battery? Also it seems to take longer than other Android devices to charge (compared to other devices with same battery capacities).

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To be honest idk but you could try turning off data. Or you could also install juice defender to conserve energy.
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Unless your rooted not much can be done except turning off data or installing juice defender like DMajor239 stated. If you are rooted then much can be done.

For the moment, what android version are you on 2.3.4, 2.3.6 with fd11 baseband or 2.3.6 with fg11 baseband?

What the unit is trying to do is continually sync your accounts, email, Facebook (if you have one), things like that plus any apps you may have are also continually trying to update.

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I just performed the OTA update a few days ago. Little did I know that 2.3.6 fixes all the known hacks to root this phone. Everything that Google could bring up for methods to root this phone have failed. I would love to root it, but at this moment, i do cannot find a way to.

Edit: CWM won't even install. Zerg method fails to access root. I've even tried running the batch file in Windows and the .sh file in Linux *shrug* I don't know what else to do.

Android Version: 2.3.6
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Edit: I have account sync turned off, and I just installed Facebook app after the second charge (at noon). If you come across a post about getting 2.3.6 root to work I would be more than grateful to give it a shot.
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[CWM][New Clockworkmod]-Fixed No 2min reboot

OK. Here is the thread you are in need of. This will root your phone and give you the NEW cwm.

Plus I can tell by your baseband you are on Boost, correct?

Any OTA will kill the root. One click will no longer work. The thread above will do the trick. Many have tried, many have succeeded.

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If you are in need of help feel free to pm me and I can walk you through it.

But it will have to be tomorrow, as it is midnight (east coast) and 6 am comes early these days.

Honestly if you just follow the thread to the "T" you will be fine.

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I am rooted! That thread was exactly what I needed. It took me a while to read through everything and get all the files. Once I got the concept of what to do I was able to load the rooted recovery for 2.3.6 with baseband x.FF27.

First thing I did was disable the Boost ID application (same as Sprint ID) and the Boost Zone. Other than that, I'm not to sure on what else I can disable to lower the Android System use. Any tips on this?
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Do you have anything like rom toolbox or titanium backup?

This will allow you to freeze apps that weigh heavy on you system.

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I have Titanium Backup; however, I downloaded Root App Delete and that is what I used to get rid of the Boost ID. So, i know you can check your battery usage - but how can you check to see what actual programs and/or processes are being used the most? Is there an app for that?


Edit - Root App Delete has a built in task manager - There is a task called "Android System - Run in background as service ImageWallpaper". Is this what is using all my battery since the battery meter says 80% is used by "Android System"?
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I have Titanium Backup; however, I downloaded Root App Delete and that is what I used to get rid of the Boost ID. So, i know you can check your battery usage - but how can you check to see what actual programs and/or processes are being used the most? Is there an app for that?


Edit - Root App Delete has a built in task manager - There is a task called "Android System - Run in background as service ImageWallpaper". Is this what is using all my battery since the battery meter says 80% is used by "Android System"?
I just checked my battery usage and I'm at 62 for android system. I don't think the usage is accurate. I believe there was a post I found awhile ago that stated the same thing. There is a fix but I will have to try and find it.

Right now I froze system update and the last four of Google framework services on advanced mode. Plus going to startup services and killing everything that has a button or app does the trick. I can last about 15-20 hours with those killed. And I'm always on here posting. At least 20-30 posts a day with out plugging in.

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I think i have reach a more manageable battery usage. I disabled sync and auto update and some of the phone features I know I will not use. In addition, I installed Battery Saver and I have tried out the three different levels. I'm also using Battery Indicator to keep track of how long it has gone unplugged. So far i'm at 6 hours with 47% left. During this time, i've been downloading new apps, configuring my screens and used the navigation for about 30 min.

At the moment, there is a great improvement in the battery life. Thanks for your help - you've help make this phone even more fun to use
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How would you like to make it even better by installing a completely new ROM?

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Oh, I also installed the Advanced Task Cleaner to auto kill tasks like Maps, Facebook, etc after I lock the screen or the screen times out.

As far as ROM's go, i'm a little skeptical. If you can show me a demo video (like on youtube) of a specific ROM that will work for my phone I will consider it. Don't get me wrong, i'm all about custom OS setups - I run Kubuntu Linux dual boot with Windows on my desktop. I'm just so used to the stock ROM and how it works. If I were motivated enough (like through a visual demo) I wouldn't mind relearning how to use a custom ROM.
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http://androidforums.com/transform-ultra-all-things-root/491861-megatron-6-2-5-updated-7-13-13-a.html#post3872278

Check out the above thread. A lot of hard work was put into this by several ppl including myself (small part). This is only for the boost/sprint Samsung transform ultra. Tech support (all of us) are here to help in anyway needed, as always. With or without the rom.

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Nice Rom, very nice actually. Looks like it has some of the features from android 4.0 and then some.

Question 1: was the video made with an emulator or an actual phone?
Question 2: If I flash the rom will it wipe all my apps, files, etc?
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Nice Rom, very nice actually. Looks like it has some of the features from android 4.0 and then some.

Question 1: was the video made with an emulator or an actual phone?
Question 2: If I flash the rom will it wipe all my apps, files, etc?
The video was made by emulator.

Yes you will lose all apps. Files and such that are saved to sdcard are safe.

I even posted ways to get all your apps back.

Data you will lose as that is saved to internal storage.

You can't use titanium backup to restore data as it has potential to not work right (apps). Apps have to be fresh install. If you follow instructions I posted, you would be fine.

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I should be able to use CWM to save a backup of my current system in case I want to revert back, right?
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Correct. In fact we encourage it.

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Cool, ill give it a shot tomorrow.
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Cool. And if you have any issues we are here to help solve them. We even have a way to chat back and forth via a webirc.

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How long does your battery last with the custom ROM?
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So far about 12-15 hours but I haven't been able to really getting around to freeze apps or get in the start up menu.

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Today, I followed the instructions and installed the rom you sugested. It was easy. Love the Rom!!! It has all the features I like from Android 4.0 and then some! And its so fast!! Thanks for the recommendation!
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I appreciate the help. I originally replaced this device for the HTC EVO from boost because of the 4.0 OS... but after installing this ROM, I gave the EVO to my wife. I love this phone now. Its amazing how much manufacturers cripple a device by loading it down with sponsored bloatware. It makes jail breaking even more rewarding.
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Oooohhhh yes. I came from the palm pre where the ios was completely open source and you could do what ever you wanted to the phone. It was also unbrickable. If you bricked it, there was always a way to get it back no matter what you did. You could erase the entire ios and still be able to get it back.

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I could've, but I decided to do a fresh reinstall of all the apps. Besides, I just wiped it a day ago for the rooted stock image. It didn't take me long to reinstall, I just went to google play from my computer and clicked install for all the apps I wanted. Took only 5 min.
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I just received an updated notice for the megatron ROM. I think I know how to upgrade, but I want to double check.
First, I boot into CWM, and upgrade from zip, right?
Second, if I update, will it revert back to factory defaults and erase my home screen setup, etc.?
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First, I boot into CWM, and upgrade from zip, right?
Second, if I update, will it revert back to factory defaults and erase my home screen setup, etc.?
1. Yes. You have to update from CWM.
2. Yes. It will reset everything.

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Well, considering I haven't noticed any major issues with the current version I'll forego the update for now. Thanks for the input.
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I've always seemed to have a tough time with battery life on the TU.

I'm rooted & running megatron 6.0.4

JuiceDefender has been a great help. I can make it through most days now without my phone dying.

But I'd still really like to squeeze as much life as i can out of it.

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Hehe, you must text a lot for go sms to get 5%. Most days I can have the battery last 14 to 16 Hours before it reaches the 15% batt warning. It works so much better with megatron.
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Ya I do text a lot lol

But I still don't understand why android system uses so much power. my friend's phones that I've looked at don't have it using so much power
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Ya I do text a lot lol

But I still don't understand why android system uses so much power. my friend's phones that I've looked at don't have it using so much power
I have a theroy, I think it may have something to do with what this phone categorizes as "Android System". Newer phones (ICS) may have more categories to distribute the battery monitor categories. Or its just the was samsung designed their phones hardware. It may be registering the amount of power needed just to keep the phone "on". My previous phone (an HTC) used gobs of power on the display.

The thing I care about most is just making it through the day on a single charge. The stock rom (unrooted) would last 4-6 hours. Now, it lasts long enough until I plug it in just before going to bed.
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Old October 3rd, 2012, 08:29 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I have a theroy, I think it may have something to do with what this phone categorizes as "Android System". Newer phones (ICS) may have more categories to distribute the battery monitor categories. Or its just the was samsung designed their phones hardware. It may be registering the amount of power needed just to keep the phone "on". My previous phone (an HTC) used gobs of power on the display.

The thing I care about most is just making it through the day on a single charge. The stock rom (unrooted) would last 4-6 hours. Now, it lasts long enough until I plug it in just before going to bed.
Glad to see your still happy with MegaTron and now your battery life!

Also along your point: Gingerbread was only there second attempt at a ROM. The bloatware and carrier IQ was killing the battery life. With enough complaints, they took off IQ and made different kernels to speed thing up and lower power consumption.
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