As expected, Galaxy S class phones are totally dominating even without Froyo. Also, I am a bit surprised at the result of Droid X on Froyo - the improvement isn't as much as I expected.
awesome link! more proof the samsung galaxy s are the fastest android phones around!
Once Froyo is out and this nand cache update is carried over on that, with an OC'ed phone this phone will be =sick=. Also did the one click, etc etc yadda yadda. ~2100 like everyone else. TBH I wasn't that bothered by or notice "lag" as much as some folks, but its all good.
Quadrant is a joke, this is all just for fun and games.
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most people from what i read dont really see any difference between 800 and 2300 score. my guess is that its pretty much all about bragging rights.
The truth is, Quadrant is a joke, this is all for fun and games, amusement. Some dorky bragging rights.
The reason I call it a joke, is because it doesn't just benchmark hardware alone, there are too many software influences in the score.
Case in point. You see a massive increase in cpu scores when running Quadrant under Froyo 2.2 vs Eclair 2.1. What kinda joke is that, lol. Are we testing hardware or software? A real, truely accurate benchmark would test Hardware only, independent of what OS was running. Clearly Quadrant is unable to do so. It's like putting two Vibrants next to each other, one running Froyo, the other running Eclair, and trying to argue that the Phone Runnying Froyo has a faster CPU. We all know this isn't the case, they have the same CPU.
Someone needs to design a real benchmark, not something that is childs play, something that truely tests the hardware, independent of software.
In the mean time, I like Quadrant, it is fun to play with.
Used the OCLF( one click lag fix) app from the market, score was in the upper 800's now it's over 2200. and my gps appears to lock onto sats. a lot faster.
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so I have crappy score and read everyones post about lagfix, then find out you must be rooted to see this huge performance increase.am I reading this correctly?
so I have crappy score and read everyones post about lagfix, then find out you must be rooted to see this huge performance increase.am I reading this correctly?
I highly doubt the huge increase in the quadrant score translates to a huge performance increase in the real world. It's more of a fun bragging right.
I personally haven't rooted my phone, or applied any lagfix. Don't really intend to either, I'm happy with the stock performance myself.
no the g2 that already has 2.2, the one that runs faster on a quadrant test than the vibrant , and the one that is HTC and has VANILLA android thus most likely will not be left and forgotten when it comes to updates (one less OS to deal with), the same phone that doesnt have GPS issues.
this guy is trying to say G2 is faster than the Vibrant, even though the G2 is running froyo 2.2, vibrant is on 2.1, vibrant with lagfix is still faster, imagine when vibrant gets froyo!
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The truth is, Quadrant is a joke, this is all for fun and games, amusement. Some dorky bragging rights.
The reason I call it a joke, is because it doesn't just benchmark hardware alone, there are too many software influences in the score.
Case in point. You see a massive increase in cpu scores when running Quadrant under Froyo 2.2 vs Eclair 2.1. What kinda joke is that, lol. Are we testing hardware or software? A real, truely accurate benchmark would test Hardware only, independent of what OS was running. Clearly Quadrant is unable to do so. It's like putting two Vibrants next to each other, one running Froyo, the other running Eclair, and trying to argue that the Phone Runnying Froyo has a faster CPU. We all know this isn't the case, they have the same CPU.
Someone needs to design a real benchmark, not something that is childs play, something that truely tests the hardware, independent of software.
In the mean time, I like Quadrant, it is fun to play with.
that maybe true but what happens for instance when you have two laptops same hardware specs one running win7 x32 and one running x64
note both have 8 gigs ram ............. when soft ware cant handle hard ware stuff get throttled x32 only 3 gigs of that ram is physicly usefull and another gig in virtual where as the 64 bit architecture will run all 8 its all apples and oranges though im happy with my vibrant its quick and less laggy so to me its all good
Yeah I hear that 2.2 will allow us to use the full amount of ram we have is this true? I know 2.2 will not come with any type of built in lag fix so we will still be getting around the same benchmarks as we are now. But I was wondering about the Ram, Does anyone know what the deal is with that and what kind of difference it will really make. I am talking stock btw. no lagfix nothing just a stock vibrant with 2.2 and I know it is not out yet so know one knows for sure but I know there are a lot of smart tech guys in here that can at least give me a good idea on it. Thanks
this guy is trying to say G2 is faster than the Vibrant, even though the G2 is running froyo 2.2, vibrant is on 2.1, vibrant with lagfix is still faster, imagine when vibrant gets froyo!
Yes and no. It's not correct to compare the G2 which is running 2.2 and the Vibrant which is running 2.1.
But it's also incorrect to say a lag fixed Vibrant is faster.
When you look at the Quadrant Advance scores, you'll see the boost on the Vibrant is all from the I/O score. That's why a lot of people call the lag fix cheating.
Whereas the score on the G2 is higher than 2.1 phones because of both the CPU score due to the JIT compiler and also because it looks like the G2 has a nice I/O score.
Comparing the overall score on Quadrant is pretty pointless, but if you break down what the scores mean, you can see some insight as to what is actually happening and how the scores really compare.
It'd be more accurate to say that a lag fixed Vibrant has a better I/O score than the G2 which leads to a better overall score.
The CPU side of things is not really compareable until the Vibrant gets 2.2. Even then, Quandrant has optimizations designed for Snapdragon CPU's. So the Galaxy S and anything running an OMAP (Droid X, Droid 2, etc) processor may remain at a disadvantage with the CPU test even with 2.2 installed.
PS: I an running a Vibrant with Bionix 1.6 with Voodoo lagfix. I can tell you from experience than an optimized rom like Bionix and the Voodoo lagfix may score lower on Quadrant, but it is noticeably smoother in everyday use than the older, ext 2/3/4 lag fixes. The older lag fixs essentially create a buffer for the file system which bypasses the journaling system builtin Samsung's proprietary RFS file system (Fat 32 plus journalling). The buffer determines what changes really do need to be written to the file sytem and only then writes it to the internal memory. With journalling out of the way, the I/O score gets a boost. With that approach, the phone is succeptable to corruption and has some wake up lag with certain implementions.
With the voodoo lag fix, the RFS file system is completely replaced by a linux ext 4 file system. I consider this a more permanent solution. No buffering required, no external memory or internal memory partitioning is required.
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most people from what i read dont really see any difference between 800 and 2300 score. my guess is that its pretty much all about bragging rights.
x2 cyan even jokingly twitted a pic of a score of 3000+ on one of his teamdouche member's vibrants citing that these scores can be greatly exaggerated using the lagfixes.
btw, for fun i was up to 2575 quadrant using eugene's latest and tayutama's lagfix before going back to JFD and awaiting the new OTA.
I'm new to all of this stuff, but yesterday I finally decided to root mine by using "One Click Lag Fix" from the Market, and I'm getting a score of 2204.
The whole process of it all wasn't as complicated as it seemed when I read about it, took less than five minutes, and I've noticed a dramatic increase in the performance of the device. I totally recommend checking out the app though for all of you who are still skittish about attempting such a task.
Just finished getting my vibrant the way I wanted. Stock ROM flashed with Core 1.2 (thanks TeamWhiskey) and OCLF 2 lag fix enabled. I have screenshots if you like.
Just finished getting my vibrant the way I wanted. Stock ROM flashed with Core 1.2 (thanks TeamWhiskey) and OCLF 2 lag fix enabled. I have screenshots if you like.
The Samsung Vibrant is the T-Mobile USA version of the Samsung Galaxy S. It's rockin' a 4 inch Super AmoLED screen, a 1GHz Hummingbird processor, and a crazy 16gb of space for some sweet apps and games.
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