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Old January 5th, 2013, 04:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Yeah It's not root related but it's devastating enough that everyone needs to know.

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I don't see it coming to the US for a while.
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Samsung is making a bad move.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ1y7CpIaVA

This explains a lot. Read this.

Tizen Is The Fulcrum Samsung Can Use Against Android And Google - Forbes
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I have a lot of skepticism over the success of this, given how hard it's been for Microsoft to get a large slice of the pie, Blackberry fading into obscurity, and combine that will 2-year carrier contracts "preventing" people from upgrading to it any time soon.
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The one reason that prevents people from switching platform is ecosystems. Longtime Android users are not gonna switch to iOS or the new Samsung platform (just as longtime iOS users are not gonna switch to Android or Samsung) because they have already invested a lot of money into buying apps and contents for their platforms. People are not going to switch and throw away hundreds or even thousands of dollars .

Android and iOS users are locked into the ecosystems by their purchased apps and contents. Its the same reason why people do not switch from Windows to Mac, Linux or Ubuntu. It's the same terrain why Windows phones are doomed. It does not matter if Mac, Linux, Ubuntu, Windows Phone, the new Samsung platform have superior technology, security or whatever. People who have invested in certain ecosystems would stay with their current ecosystems for economic reasons.

I give this little Samsung experiment... six to eight months before Samsung throws in the towel.
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Moved this to the Samsung forum given its topic.
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hmm...most likely samsung will target Asia first and then slowly expand...but yeah it wont be very successful due to to Android's growth continuing at a huge rate...it could be a great option for people on a budget.
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Well, it will be interesting to watch...
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samsung also released the windows 8 smartphone the ativ S so they have gone with other operating systems
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This is true as well. I imagine Samsung will play around with other OSs, but will continue to pump out high end android devices as long as they remain a cash cow.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 07:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This is definitely a blow to the android community. As much as I love LG, Samsung and Android is a dynamic duo. Even if Tizen does well in Asian markets I don't see that success translating in the US. Plus where does that leave support for current Samsung devices.
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They aren't completely dropping android, they are just simply introducing a new OS in some markets to feel out demand.

Don't believe all the sensationalism crap the media spews out to get more clicks. Android just plain works for Samsung. They aren't going away from it anytime soon.
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And just for future reference, don't give BGR any real consideration when it comes to android news. It almost always has a negative or false spin on it and many believe them to be very pro apple site.
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Given that I bought the Note 10.1 last week, this isn't exactly what I wanted to hear.

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Given that I bought the Note 10.1 last week, this isn't exactly what I wanted to hear.

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1. Samsung wants to start adding Tizen devices to its portfolio and will not move away from Android until it sees profits coming from it the way they are getting profits from Android.

2. By the time they start getting good profits from Tizen to be able to move away from android entirely, you will not even remember you had the Note 10.1 as it will take years to develop as good an OS as Android is ATM.

3. They have already invested in Bada OS and have decided to dump it as it was not bringing any profit. Right now, it is going to be even more difficult with Android's position in the market, and it is growing all the time.

Even if they move away from Android, does that mean your Note 10.1 will stop working the day they stop producing Android phones and tablet (which I believe will never happen)?
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Merged similar threads.

Android isnt going anywhere guys...
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That's good to hear, I've only just bought my Samsung Galaxy Note this week and was worried when I read this thread, I'm pleased with it bar one thing.
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Replace Samsung's keyboard with Swiftkey 3. Samsung's keyboard is terrible. I tried living with it on my Tab 2 for about a week. Then Swiftkey 3 went on sale, so I snatched it right up. (I knew what I was buying, because my VTAB had come with Swiftkey X.) My wife resisted for better than a month. A couple days ago said "I should have done this when you told me to."

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Replace Samsung's keyboard with Swiftkey 3. Samsung's keyboard is terrible. I tried living with it on my Tab 2 for about a week. Then Swiftkey 3 went on sale, so I snatched it right up. (I knew what I was buying, because my VTAB had come with Swiftkey X.) My wife resisted for better than a month. A couple days ago said "I should have done this when you told me to."

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Indeed, or give swiftkey flow beta a try if you like the swyping. All the goodies of swiftkey + swyping is heaven.
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Thanks guys, I'll have a look at that.
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As quickly as I jumped on the Samsung bandwagon with the Note 2. I guess I'll be jumping off on my next phone. Oh well, I'm still enjoying the Note 2, but man...just when Samsung seemed like they were getting things right, they may end up with phones like the Instinct again...eek
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As quickly as I jumped on the Samsung bandwagon with the Note 2. I guess I'll be jumping off on my next phone. Oh well, I'm still enjoying the Note 2, but man...just when Samsung seemed like they were getting things right, they may end up with phones like the Instinct again...eek

This isn't the end of android for Samsung...

They're trying out their own mobile OS in select markets (ie not the US) just like many companies are. Nothings going to change anytime soon
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Great news, I was getting worried, I want my Galaxy note to last me a few years at least.
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Given how many retailers are having trouble selling pc's with Windows 8, I understand why Samsung would want to expand it's options. Samsung is making a killing on their Galaxy S phones. But if Google were to release a version of Android people didn't like, it would be bad for Samsung.

Microsoft, RIM, and HP have all failed to take a foot-hold in the smart phone market. It's nearly impossible to complete with Google and Apple's mobile ecosystems at this point. I don't see Samsung dropping Android any time soon. Plus, Tizen looks a lot better than the crappy OS Samsung used to put on it's low end touch screen phones.
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Another reason why Samsung's proprietor mobile platform will fail:

Samsung is a hardware company and had been doinga a shitty job of writing software. If you've used software or drivers written by Samsung, then you already know making software is not their strong point.
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Nice news, this will be the death of samsung on middle and high end phones, they will be New Nokia.
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I think it's good idea for samsung develop and manage their own OS instead of waiting for someone (google) to make OS and then port it to their devices. I bet with their own OS will have a lot less issues than now (i.e. WiFi issue 4.0.4 samsungs have).

And! It's open sources based on linux, I'm waiting this!
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And! It's open sources based on linux, I'm waiting this!
Guaranteed their sales go down if they drop Android
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I think it's good idea for samsung develop and manage their own OS instead of waiting for someone (google) to make OS and then port it to their devices. I bet with their own OS will have a lot less issues than now (i.e. WiFi issue 4.0.4 samsungs have).

And! It's open sources based on linux, I'm waiting this!
It's not open source, it's not based on Linux. Samsung has had their own os all along, they're simply replacing it.

Samsung provides the kernels, drivers and radios in their Android products.
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CNET article confirmed that Tizen was created for lower end Samsung models, based on the devices that were announced during MWC.

Samsung gives Galaxy S4 its own show, but still has a lot at MWC | Mobile World Congress - CNET Reviews

It mentions it at the bottom of that article.
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Thus confirming in print, but only as a footnote, what we've known all along.
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I would've really liked to see Samsung break away from Google and form it's own OS. This would make the market more nexus vs iPhone vs Galaxy S
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Why?...Guaranteed, Samsung looses its steam as a mobile powerhouse, if it drops Android. They'd in essence be turning themselves into what Apple is and would also have to have developers create apps for their OS (so all of the apps that can be enjoyed by iPhone and Android users alike would be gone). I hope Samsung execs aren't that dumb.

In any event, it doesn't look like it'll happen anytime soon:
Report: Samsung wont be leaving Android for Tizen anytime soon
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1. Samsung wants to start adding Tizen devices to its portfolio and will not move away from Android until it sees profits coming from it the way they are getting profits from Android.

2. By the time they start getting good profits from Tizen to be able to move away from android entirely, you will not even remember you had the Note 10.1 as it will take years to develop as good an OS as Android is ATM.

3. They have already invested in Bada OS and have decided to dump it as it was not bringing any profit. Right now, it is going to be even more difficult with Android's position in the market, and it is growing all the time.

Even if they move away from Android, does that mean your Note 10.1 will stop working the day they stop producing Android phones and tablet (which I believe will never happen)?
Excellent points. I don't think Samsung will be able to completely dump Android for several years. And, even if that does happen it's not going to affect current phones/contracts. HTC took a chance on Android and look where it is today. Who knows, we may see some new manufacturers become big names in the next few years.
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With my s3 being 4 weeks old I hope this isn't true
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With my s3 being 4 weeks old I hope this isn't true
This rumor has come and gone.

You can pretty much dismiss it
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I cant see samsung doing this? They have just released the S4?
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This dumb rumor was dead on arrival.
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