Sorry I just mistyped on the computer, i just rechecked and i did type it correctly on the phone. I did type SU at the start and was granted superuser permission, so I'm not sure what the problem is. I went into aNDexplorer and rechecked the filename of flash_imagine and it is correct and unzipped in there, not in a folder. I will back out and try again from the start.
One question before I retry it, at the beginning when I type "su reboot recovery" am I supposed to change it to local instead of ssh? I did that because under ssh it wouldn't let me type su reboot recovery. I just retried it and pretty sure that I was doing the right thing there.
After I typed the first line "mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock1 /system"
and hit enter, there was no message displayed it just went to the next line, that's when I typed in the "cat /sdcard/flash_image > /system/bin/flash_image" and keep getting the invalid length error.
Last edited by 350Rocket; December 10th, 2010 at 03:04 PM.
Would it be easier if I download ADB and the drivers for it and try entering the commands that way, instead of using connect bot?
If I do it this way, do I need to enable usb debugging like I do for tethering?
Thanks guys. I'm starting to get obsessed with this. LOL.
It looks like I did a dumb thing. I did the volume down, home and power button reboot without successfully flashing the custom recovery menu first. So the phone rebooted and looks like I lost everything on it, looks right out of the box. :-( I'm stupid.
update: I recovered about half of the apps, etc. that I'd downloaded through the market, but pdanet which I paid for only shows the free version. At the end of this month I'm moving and the phone is my only source of internet and I need the paid version to access secure sites. Looks like I might have to pay again. :-(
Secondly, the phone still has superuser permission but universal androot is nowhere to be seen on the phone. I assume I need to reinstall that in case I need to unroot? Or can I just leave it out on the assumption that I won't have to?
Update: I'm making progress. It turned out the reason for the error was that the files unzipped into folders automatically and I didn't realize it. I had to delete them and reinstall and change the name of the file so it didn't create them in a folder (hard to explain properly) but anyways got the flash image properly located not in a folder, and then the command worked. Then I had the same problem with the recovery imagine, so I'm reinstalling it now, and I'm almost home free.
Last edited by 350Rocket; December 10th, 2010 at 07:29 PM.
Okay so it worked and I got the Android recovery menu screen. Couldn't figure out how to scroll through the options but hitting enter selected reboot for me. Then the phone rebooted and was not a brick :-)
Just finished Nandroid backup and rebooting. Then I am thinking about trying that sample deodexed rom from DSI. Wish me luck!
Thanks again for the help so far.
Last edited by 350Rocket; December 10th, 2010 at 08:31 PM.
I've watched a couple videos on flashing roms and seen a few different ways and now I'm kind of confused. I have downloaded the sample deodexed rom from the top of the first page here The first video I watched, showed him unzipping it on the computer, before transferring to the nandroid folder of the sd card. So that's what I did. The next 2 vids I watched, they put the zip file right on the sd card and did some sort of wipe and partition, then unzipped it in recovery mode. Now I'm not feeling too confident and afraid of making a brick.
I was ready to go for it and chickened out. I went into recovery mode and selected nandroid restore and it gave me the 2 folders as options, the nandroid backup i made, and the folder with the deodexed rom, i selected it and then it wanted me to select one of the files inside, 3 of which were folders, the first was the .img file. I was going to select that one.
Edit: I tried loading the uncompressed zip folder right onto the root of the SD card, I can see it along with the other zip files that I had to unzip for the recovery image, but when I go into recovery mood and try to unzip those files, I can only see all the folders on the sdcard, when I get to the bottom the last folder, it doesn't show all the zip files below that. I have no idea where to go from here.
If you guys can give me some guidance at this point, I will go for it. Thanks.
Mike
Last edited by 350Rocket; December 11th, 2010 at 08:21 AM.
If you want to flash the rom you DON'T unzip its contents. Just put the zip file at the root of your sd card and select the option in the recovery menu to flash an update zip.
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I've watched a couple videos on flashing roms and seen a few different ways and now I'm kind of confused. I have downloaded the sample deodexed rom from the top of the first page here The first video I watched, showed him unzipping it on the computer, before transferring to the nandroid folder of the sd card. So that's what I did. The next 2 vids I watched, they put the zip file right on the sd card and did some sort of wipe and partition, then unzipped it in recovery mode. Now I'm not feeling too confident and afraid of making a brick.
I was ready to go for it and chickened out. I went into recovery mode and selected nandroid restore and it gave me the 2 folders as options, the nandroid backup i made, and the folder with the deodexed rom, i selected it and then it wanted me to select one of the files inside, 3 of which were folders, the first was the .img file. I was going to select that one.
Edit: I tried loading the uncompressed zip folder right onto the root of the SD card, I can see it along with the other zip files that I had to unzip for the recovery image, but when I go into recovery mood and try to unzip those files, I can only see all the folders on the sdcard, when I get to the bottom the last folder, it doesn't show all the zip files below that. I have no idea where to go from here.
If you guys can give me some guidance at this point, I will go for it. Thanks.
Just sent a PM, hopefully your still online.
Edit:I guess I got too impatient and I went ahead and tried partitioning sdcard, thinking maybe then I would be able to access the zip files. I guess I didn't properly understand the meaning of partition, as now all of my music, pictures, videos and backups of school files (which i don't really need now) are all lost.
Since that's all lost anyways, i'm going to try to copy the deodexed rom zip file over to the root of the sdcard once again, and see if it's this time accessible while in recovery mode.
Last edited by 350Rocket; December 11th, 2010 at 04:40 PM.
Update:Well the rom is flashed, after the partitioning, I was able to copy the zip file to the sdcard and it installed no problem. Only error that happened was on boot up it said rom manager wasn't responding, force close or wait, i clicked wait and then it didn't reoccur? Anyways everything else appears to be just as it was before except the build number in about phone shows the name of the rom that i installed. So I guess that is right. What other differences should there be beside that I can install themes now?
Since I don't know what zipaligned, nano text editor, etc are, the only difference I've noticed with the new rom is that the phone hasn't randomly restarted since flashing it. (Used to do that maybe once every few days), also it runs live wallpapers off the market that didn't work before.
My last question is, if the 2.2 update does become available OTA do I have to flash the stock rom back on and then unroot, and then it should work fine?
My last question is, if the 2.2 update does become available OTA do I have to flash the stock rom back on and then unroot, and then it should work fine?
For OTA updates, you'll need to reflash to the stock recovery menu, but everything else can remain the same. OR, you can wait for someone to make a version of the 2.2 ROM so that it is rooted, and you can flash that without any modifications required.
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I'm kind of sad this thread died. I would have loved to see more development on this, and I don't think I'm savvy enough to cook a ROM let alone develop kernel implementations for overclocking and such.
I'm kind of sad this thread died. I would have loved to see more development on this, and I don't think I'm savvy enough to cook a ROM let alone develop kernel implementations for overclocking and such.
I'm disappointed too. I was hoping some good stuff would get made for this phone since I'm likely going to be stuck with it for 3 years or more. I do want to wait until the 2.2 update before modifying anything else but i really would like either better battery life or faster performance. I'm pretty sure my friends Desire lasts longer than mine but its hard to tell cause i do use mine a lot more. I start back to school on monday but while i was on holidays i would have to recharge 2 or 3 times a day cause i used the phone so much. I can get 12 to 16 hrs normally though.
So I've been meaning to develop my own ROM for the Shine Plus based off of Cyanogen's latest builds (it's in alpha for 2.3 currently), but my biggest problem is that I don't actually own this phone, my wife does, and she will NOT let me touch it.
Ever since her Gears of War 2 progress was reset (she was level 68) she doesn't trust me with tech. I happened to be adjusting a setting on the router when her thing got reset, but it's actually a common problem with the game's code.
Anyhow, that's neither here nor there, I'm putting this out to see if anyone has a broken or busted phone they are willing to part with. Something with a cracked screen or anything like that, so long it boots up and I can test phone calls on it to get a ROM build working.
Or if anyone has a suggestion on where to get one I'll take the suggestion too.
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Hi,
Very good question. I've been wanting some custom ROMs, so I'd love to help! If I see something for you, I'll be sure to advise you. I'd check ebay, I've seen a few over the last few weeks... Also I'd check local listings.
I haven't heard of anything at all yet, but I'm waiting for 2.2 to become available, then once I do the update I will eventually want to re root and custom rom again probably.
Since 2.2 allows wifi tethering I may not even require root, right now I need it to run barnacle.
Also if it speeds up a bit with 2.2 I probably won't be worried about overclocking since it's not all that bad now depending on how I have things set up.
I only put the custom rom on so that I could do theming, but I never saw any themes come out for it and I'm not advanced enough to do on my own. The only benefit I got out of the custom rom was that the phone no longer occasionally reboots for no reason, but it wasn't a huge problem anyways cause it never happened while I was in the middle of anything.
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No skills with ROMs here and this phone is RARELY seen in the wild... Kinda sucks considering it's just a beefed up Ally. Kinda dissapointed the development path is stalled on this cell phone.
Oh well.. Having too much fun with my HD2 though! haha
Yeah you would think for the price it would be a more popular seller. I haven't seen one person with one at school or anywhere. The phone feels like it will last a long time too. Consumers reports rated the lg ally as a recommended buy. Maybe we just need to wait a bit longer.
okay so i followed the instructions step by step and ever repeated them several times start to finish. nothing happens when i type in the commands and how do i make a nandroid?
The lg ally roms don't work on the shine plus.
As far as your problem I'm not much help when i did it i had a few hitches but each time i figured out something that i had done wrong or misread the instructions and eventually i got it to work. I'm a newb at this and i don't remember the specific issues that i had now. Hopefully someone else can be of more help.
Sorry guys, I had returned the LG Shine Plus a month ago before leaving for vacation, so unfortunately I haven't made any progress with the other stuff like Apps2sd and Overclocking. Perhaps if there's enough demand we can get some guys to get the project going again.
Is there anyone here who is technically savvy enough who knows how to create a custom Shine Plus ROM with my kitchen, or on their own? I have already provided a couple of custom ROMs on the first post, but just need to know if we can get some others involved.
Last edited by dsi; February 1st, 2011 at 12:13 PM.
okay so i followed the instructions step by step and ever repeated them several times start to finish. nothing happens when i type in the commands and how do i make a nandroid?
What do you mean "nothing happens"? - you will need to be more specific with your errors. A Nandroid backup is achieved by going through the recovery menu.. you can't do that unless you get the custom recovery image flashed. Just follow the steps carefully in the first post and you should be fine.
Last edited by dsi; February 1st, 2011 at 12:11 PM.
Since I don't know what zipaligned, nano text editor, etc are, the only difference I've noticed with the new rom is that the phone hasn't randomly restarted since flashing it. (Used to do that maybe once every few days), also it runs live wallpapers off the market that didn't work before.
In general, zipaligning just modifies the *.apk file to make it start up a bit faster. Nano is a text editor like Pico which is found in Unix systems. If you have more questions let me know. Or you can Google the terminology :-)
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My last question is, if the 2.2 update does become available OTA do I have to flash the stock rom back on and then unroot, and then it should work fine?
Safest thing would be to flash the stock ROM back (e.g. the version I posted that is not de-odexed) and then flash the stock recovery after that. THEN you can flash the 2.2 update.
Just do this when it's time:
1) Make Nandroid backup!
2) Flash stock ROM (not deodexed) posted in first page
3) Flash stock recovery image posted in first page
4) Your device will now be ready to take a 2.2 update
If you had a modified ROM, then the update may fail because it looks for *.odex files and the original stock files and tries to update some of them. If they are not found then it will fail the update. Also the stock updates won't work with custom recovery images.
I wouldn't worry about it, because when you flash my stock version of the ROM, it doesn't wipe your device, so your apps will still be there. Just follow my procedure above :-)
Last edited by dsi; February 1st, 2011 at 12:22 PM.
Yeah you would think for the price it would be a more popular seller. I haven't seen one person with one at school or anywhere. The phone feels like it will last a long time too. Consumers reports rated the lg ally as a recommended buy. Maybe we just need to wait a bit longer.
The only problem I had with the Shine Plus was that it was a bit slow. Other than that, it is a decent device.. probably the best keyboard for an Android phone. Plus it's easily hackable :-)
Last edited by dsi; February 1st, 2011 at 12:11 PM.
I downloaded the kitchen and stuff and was going to attempt making a custom rom but just as practice for after 2.2 comes cause i think i want to update before trying to flash another one. I'm still a bit paranoid although things went well last time.
I got stuck at the point of trying to import the stock rom to modify and then i realized i had to get back to homework. I spent a couple hours already reading and figuring out how to set up the kitchen. I also downloaded over 1gb of data in a couple hours that evening from my 5gb limit lol.
I will try to get back at it soon. I made an error somewhere along the way i think i installed something into the wrong folder.
I also wanted to thank dsi and getitnowmarketing for all their efforts cause i can only imagine how much of their spare time must have gone into this. I know i really didnt have any knowledge going into this but I've spent several hours just following the directions given here to get where I'm at now. After more time using the phone i can definitely say its worked better with the new rom.
I also wanted to thank dsi and getitnowmarketing for all their efforts cause i can only imagine how much of their spare time must have gone into this. I know i really didnt have any knowledge going into this but I've spent several hours just following the directions given here to get where I'm at now. After more time using the phone i can definitely say its worked better with the new rom.
Good to know!
I wouldn't worry about flashing and all, as long as you have a legitimate Nandroid backup (I have one based on stock, in case you ever need one).
What do you mean "nothing happens"? - you will need to be more specific with your errors. A Nandroid backup is achieved by going through the recovery menu.. you can't do that unless you get the custom recovery image flashed. Just follow the steps carefully in the first post and you should be fine.
i mean nothing happened as in absoleutly nothing happened, not a thing changed, the terminal emulator didnt even recognize the commands i was giving it, when i pressed enter nothing happened, thats about as clear as i know how to explain it
I lost phone wave and error status (can't enter status phone)after flashing the new rom. Phone => PDA. My software version is C710-V08c. I think my phone version incompatible with rom for LG shine plus.
Last edited by dgtlkachiusa; February 24th, 2011 at 09:29 PM.
Sounds like that is the problem. The software version that the rest of us have is v10c i think. Its weird that yours is different. Maybe you can update to v10d and then flash the new rom?
I've spent countless hours over the past few weeks going through the system files and trying to learn what this phone needs to work. Today I finally worked up the courage to try a build of CM7 that I compiled based on the ZTE Blade (same processor) and swapping out the proprietary files and editing config files as needed.
The first time I tried flashing I got a verification error and it didn't proceed. I turned off verification and tried again and it did flash. However, the phone got stuck at the Telus logo for a little bit and just rebooted into recovery.
I then tried to restore the nandroid backup I did just earlier and it failed! Thank god I did one a week or so ago, and that one worked. The difference is that the latest one I did "Nandroid + .secure" whereas the one that DID work was just "Nandroid". So for whatever reason the .secure is causing it to fail.
I also did a Titanium backup of all her important data (ie. sms, contacts, program/system data), so I was (or rather AM, as I'm doing it as I type) able to simply restore all data missing from the last week.
I'm going to keep trying, I am determined to get this thing on CM7. I'm just concerned I'm not yet skilled enough with mobile development to do this on my own.
Edit: Oh yes! My wife finally let me touch her phone. This is not even my phone, and my wife's been very weary of letting me do anything to it. When she got it she didn't even want me to root it! So, progress!
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So I think I actually found a link that has the source code for our phone. The reason that I didn't find it before is because I was always searching for the "Shine Plus" and this is simply listed as "c710". So I'm 99% sure it's our phone but not completely.
I hope you have some good luck with this. You are clearly a lot more knowledgeable than i am. I was able to get mine rooted and install the custom rom but i'm still not happy with the lag i get compared to playing with my girlfriends htc desire. I normally keep phones for at least 2 years but now this one has opened my eyes to other smartphones and I'm getting bored of it after 6 months. Since these phones aren't really worth anything to resell i can't afford to upgrade any time soon. Probably not for another year and a half when i can renew at 3yr prices. I would like to get this thing working well enough to keep me happy that long.
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Hmm, interesting find for the source code. I'll pull out the kernel code and see if a few people I know can help.
As for the reason your Nandroid failed with .secure, it's most likely due to the fact that .secure does not exist on eclair ROMs, thus it doesn't rip properly. I just do Nandroid only when I make backups.
If you want to boot up that Cyanogen ROM (made for the ZTE), run my kitchen and try the "port ROM" option. It will boot up almost for sure. Basically you just need to swap out the kernel with the Shine Plus' kernel to get it to boot safely. Then you need to get the drivers working.
So I think I actually found a link that has the source code for our phone. The reason that I didn't find it before is because I was always searching for the "Shine Plus" and this is simply listed as "c710". So I'm 99% sure it's our phone but not completely.
Thanks for the source link! I just tried building the kernel they supply and it works with their included instructions (although I had to run 'repo sync' after initializing the AOSP eclair repo)
It builds just fine - and there are source files in there that are obviously related to the alohag, so it does appear to indeed be the right kernel for the Shine Plus. I'll try loading this into my phone later and report back.
The instructions for building Eclair itself seem straightforward enough from their README file. Will attempt this later.
Hmm, interesting find for the source code. I'll pull out the kernel code and see if a few people I know can help.
As for the reason your Nandroid failed with .secure, it's most likely due to the fact that .secure does not exist on eclair ROMs, thus it doesn't rip properly. I just do Nandroid only when I make backups.
Ya I figured as much. My wife's not too happy with me right now cause her phone isn't in a very "clean" state with me having done the old nandroid restore and then the Titanium Backup restore on top of that.
From now on I'll just do the nandroid without the .secure.
If you want to boot up that Cyanogen ROM (made for the ZTE), run my kitchen and try the "port ROM" option. It will boot up almost for sure. Basically you just need to swap out the kernel with the Shine Plus' kernel to get it to boot safely. Then you need to get the drivers working.
K, I think I very well may try that this Saturday. I'll be honest though, if I don't have any success in getting this going in the next week I'm not really gonna bother much. I'm planning on getting the wife a new phone for our anniversary, she's not really happy with the phone itself. However, I probably won't get rid of it right away so I may give a few more tries.
Thanks for the source link! I just tried building the kernel they supply and it works with their included instructions (although I had to run 'repo sync' after initializing the AOSP eclair repo)
It builds just fine - and there are source files in there that are obviously related to the alohag, so it does appear to indeed be the right kernel for the Shine Plus. I'll try loading this into my phone later and report back.
The instructions for building Eclair itself seem straightforward enough from their README file. Will attempt this later.
That's good to hear that it builds. I had not actually tried building it myself as most of my time was spent sifting through all the code extracting bits and pieces I suspected were the drivers, etc.
The largest problem for me is that CyanogenMod doesn't really have a "vanilla" source like the AOSP, each one of their branches is build specifically for a particular device, so I need a lot more time separating the pure Android parts from the device parts and rebuilding the source for our Shine Plus.
I'm 100% willing to work with others on this as I'm not exactly thrilled to do on my own what usually done with a team of experts.