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Old May 25th, 2012, 07:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default New Likes System Installed

Installed the newest vbSEO which includes the likes system. It is pretty nice. We can change the heart icon if we want, and put buttons in place of the "like/dislike" wording in each post.

We may even be able to remove the thanks system later. Or, run them side by side indefinitely, i'm not opposed.

So...

You should see "Like" in the bottom right corner of posts now. You can use this to "Like" a post.

Once a thread has started to accumulate likes, it will then start to show a "<3 LIkes" icon at the top of the thread when viewed. You can click this to see how many likes it has, and how many per post.

You can sort by the "Top" likes.

So, basically you can click this on long threads to see which posts have made the most impact, and click to jump right to it.

Easier than skimming the whole thread for large amounts of thanks to find good content.

Attached is what you see when clicking the "<3 Likes" at the top of a thread, as it expands down. (This picture is taken from a different forum so I could show one in use)

I used the "Staff Update!" thread to show an example:

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We'll run this a while and see what we think.
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Great work phases, keep it up bud!

even though now we have likes and thanks to go on
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Though, the notifications per like might drive people insane.
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Awe! Awesome. ~@^_^@~

I remember back then when I opened a "thread" on said topic. I'm happy to see that it has been implemented. Sometimes I rather give a "like" than a "thanks" in some thread|post.

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We may even be able to remove the thanks system later. Or, run them side by side indefinitely, i'm not opposed.
I love the option of having both, if you don't mind.

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We can change the heart icon if we want, and put buttons in place of the "like/dislike" wording in each post.
The heart icon looks fine to me. Maybe others would think differently, though.

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Though, the notifications per like might drive people insane.
We will be notified every time someone like our post? O_o hmm!

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After observing where the "like" button is, I would suggest placing it amongst the other buttons below. ™
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let's see how bonkers we can make you then!
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Judging by first impressions, it sounds like this new system covers everything Thanks do and more. If we gave it a proper button and showed total likes received under your avatar on posts, then the Thanks system becomes pretty much redundant.

Which raises the question of what to do with the Thanks system. Obviously we can't remove it, as nobody wants to lose all of that data. Could we port that data into the likes system? I'm guessing not. Could we remove the thanks button, but leave the rest of the system in tact? That still leaves the problem of having two redundant systems, but it would look neater, at least.
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Once a thread has started to accumulate likes, it will then start to show a "<3 LIkes" icon at the top of the thread when viewed. You can click this to see how many likes it has, and how many per post.

You can sort by the "Top" likes.

So, basically you can click this on long threads to see which posts have made the most impact, and click to jump right to it.
Ok, so I won't be using it as a way of bookmarking stuff I want to keep an eye on for Guide purposes then - don't want to increase the prominence of posts I have doubts about .
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Though, the notifications per like might drive people insane.
Already driving me nuts as folks are clicking the like, then un-liking, but you still get the notification. Also, the liked tab only show in your profile page if you click the notification.
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Yeah, personally I would vote to disable notifications entirely. Is that possible?
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Thanks for the update Phases - I see it covers most of what Thanks do already.

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Yeah, personally I would vote to disable notifications entirely. Is that possible?
Sorry, Xyro ... But your making some good points. A-hem. √
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I like thanks for lets call it street cred, but I like how the like thing highlights the useful posts in a thread.
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I like thanks for lets call it street cred, but I like how the like thing highlights the useful posts in a thread.
I recall that was the original basis for the request for this.

There are many reasons to thank someone, but if someone posts a solution to some problem (that had thanks for steps along the way), the Like button will single that out.
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Awesome

We can have credibility for a thread based on the same !!

Just that the like button needs be placed some where else
May be a litter bit lower ?
(just guessing! )
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Is the intention to replace the thanks system, or specifically for marking things as useful? Because if it's the later, maybe 'like' is a bit too vague of a term; at the moment they seem fairly interchangeable.
In longer threads it will highlight the useful posts, but I see your point. Maybe something like "Helpful Post."

I see this a "thanking" the post. I may be the dumbest person on a thread so my 2k+ thanks are meaningless, but a really good post in a root thread by a new user with 20+ likes will stand out. Especially with the link at the top that ranks the liked posts.
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In longer threads it will highlight the useful posts, but I see your point. Maybe something like "Helpful Post."

I see this a "thanking" the post. I may be the dumbest person on a thread so my 2k+ thanks are meaningless, but a really good post in a root thread by a new user with 20+ likes will stand out. Especially with the link at the top that ranks the liked posts.
Just like thanks are an easily visible way to judge a user's contribution as a whole, likes are an easy way to judge a post's or thread's contribution.
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I had to stop by and see what this whole "likes" thing was about. It seems really interesting, I just really don't want notifications for likes.
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Not to be a downer, but I really don't like it.

It's redundant (we already have thanks), the style doesn't fit at all and it's a lot of clutter.
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Not to be a downer, but I really don't like it.

It's redundant (we already have thanks), the style doesn't fit at all and it's a lot of clutter.
How about a poll to see how many members like or dislike this feature.. In all fairness, if you don't like it...you dont...I appreciate your honesty.
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I am with DaS on this one. It seems mostly redundant to me. At least having both systems is.

I also don't like that it doesn't work with Tapatalk. A lot of folks use that as the primary way to browse the forums, so for this to work (IMO) it would need TT to support it.

That said, if you removed thanks and added likes and the few forum apps that people use around here supported it, then I would be 100% behind it. (especially if you could transfer thanks to likes. But I am guessing that would be tough.) Especially if it fit with the theme of the rest of the forums.

I will support whatever is done in the end, just throwing in my two cents.
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How about a poll to see how many members like or dislike this feature.. In all fairness, if you don't like it...you dont...I appreciate your honesty.
We wouldn't have to use a poll if there were a corresponding "Don't like" button. EM, is there an option for that?

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I am with DaS on this one. It seems mostly redundant to me. At least having both systems is.

I also don't like that it doesn't work with Tapatalk. A lot of folks use that as the primary way to browse the forums, so for this to work (IMO) it would need TT to support it.

That said, if you removed thanks and added likes and the few forum apps that people use around here supported it, then I would be 100% behind it. (especially if you could transfer thanks to likes. But I am guessing that would be tough.) Especially if it fit with the theme of the rest of the forums.

I will support whatever is done in the end, just throwing in my two cents.
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Oh... and to be clear I only thanked the post. It seems too much to click both.
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I was going to blanket like the thread to see how many staffers I could annoy, then I saw the DAS post....

The urge to click the like was strong but I resisted. I had to restrain my hand like Dr. Strangelove...
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Yeah, I'm with DaS on this one... I don't care for it. Especially now that I get notifications for my "liked" posts. It's already a pain with Facebook.
I can see guides and Senior members using the like or thanks buttons wisely, but it's definitely going to be confusing (and perhaps pointless) for those new and infrequent members. My .02.
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Let's give it a little time and then we'll poll and see what everyone thinks. I really think the benefit of being able to jump to high liked posts will prove worthy - but it's no biggie to disable.
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Here's my take on this matter...

1.) A public poll seems fair enough. (This will give others a chance to have their say, too.)

2.) Personally, I've always wanted the option of choosing either one or both buttons ("like or thanks") when needed.

3.) I don't think that most members are even aware of the "like" button because of where its position. If the decision is made to keep this feature _ then I would suggest placing it alongside the other buttons below.

4.) If it is possible, could the notification be disabled? Why? (Reason): I don't want to assume that the notification on my profile is indeed a confirmation from a liked post and not a private message or a friend request.

5.) It would be nice to have the "likes" and "liked" beside our posts. (If not both, then preferably likes).

Overall, I would have to agree with what Phases said,"I really think the benefit of being able to jump to high liked posts will prove worthy."
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Many people have asked for that feature (to disable notifications) so I hope to see that in an update..
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The developers of the product have confirmed the feature "ability to disable likes notifications" due in the next update.

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Awesome...now how about some of the other suggested suggestions above.
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5.) It would be nice to have the "likes" and "liked" count on our profile. (If not both, then preferably likes).
Do you mean on profiles? Or do you mean besides our posts? Because they do both show up on the 'Mini Statistics' box on your profile.
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Having spent a couple of days with it, I think I kinda like it. I don't even have an issue with the notifications.

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We can change the heart icon if we want, and put buttons in place of the "like/dislike" wording in each post.
Buttons would be good. TBH, anything would be better than the current icon though
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Oops! I meant to say beside our posts.
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Maybe its been said (I'll admit to not reading some of the posts here) but I would have thought that 'thanks' are for the helpful stuff and 'likes' for the fun stuff that may or may not be helpful, such as a funny picture.
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I think its kind of redundant. There's no point in having both....as the current THANKS system essentially gives people 'points' for getting thanked for making a useful post while noting that a post was deemed useful. It seems like the only thing different about the LIKE system is that it can be tracked and sorted.

Ideally, you'd only want one system. If there was a way to port over all the thanks into the likes system and display LIKES in the user profile, that would be great. Or, if the THANKS system could be modified to be similar to the LIKES system so that threads could be sorted by THANKS. I don't think that having both is the solution because it makes both systems less effective as some people will LIKE and some people will THANK, and in the end what you really want is everyone doing one or the other to get a true reading.
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for me, if i like the post then i click "like" and if the post is helpful then i click "thanks"
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for me, if i like the post then i click "like" and if the post is helpful then i click "thanks"
Therefore, when you post an answer like that, you get both.
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Got to say I disagree. Useful information is thanks too for me. I'm with DoubleBobble on this one
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Therefore, when you post an answer like that, you get both.
Loving it. So if you like a helpful post: thank and like it (both are verbs here)
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Thanking is if the member was helpful and you could probably thank the post if the info was helpful too. Either way it's good to show someone they were helpful by thanking them, liking them or telling them thanks.
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Thanking is if the member was helpful and you could probably thank the post if the info was helpful too. Either way it's good to show someone they were helpful by thanking them, liking them or telling them thanks.
And of course, telling them you love them
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Well that too.
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Ooooh can we get a loveheart button that when pressed, the post background goes pink?
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My personal method is if the post could be useful to others, it gets a like, if it's only useful to me, thanks. Obviously very rarely will a post be useful to others and not me, so for me if it gets a like, it gets a thank. But plenty of times I might only give thanks. Plus, I am on tapatalk at least 75% of the time, and can only use thanks there.
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