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Old July 11th, 2012, 05:30 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Yeah, everyone knows that you use an iPod touch and wouldn't be caught dead using an iPod color (or whatever it is).

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Old July 11th, 2012, 05:45 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I also received the following msg (twice) after I canged passwords.

Dear Unicorn512, Someone has tried to log into your account on Android Forums with an incorrect password at least 5 times. This person has been prevented from attempting to login to your account for the next 15 minutes. The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address: 174.253.187.214 All the best, Android Forums

I checked and it's the VZN supplied address on my DROID3. Then it occurred to me that the Phandroid app on my phone must be the cause, so I uninstalled it.
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Yeah, everyone knows that you use an iPod touch and wouldn't be caught dead using an iPod color (or whatever it is).
Isn't accusing someone of using a Fruity product on a Android forum against some kind of TOS?
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Phases,

I changed my password earlier today as soon as I saw your notice, and this evening between 5:02 and 6:18PM Central Time there were four failed login attempts on my account. I was out eating dinner with my wife at the time, so I know for a fact that it wasn't me.

It seems to me that there is a high probability that whomever compromised your database is in fact trying to use that information to gain access to user accounts.

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I changed my password earlier today as soon as I saw your notice, and this evening between 5:02 and 6:18PM Central Time there were four failed login attempts on my account. I was out eating dinner with my wife at the time, so I know for a fact that it wasn't me.

It seems to me that there is a high probability that whomever compromised your database is in fact trying to use that information to gain access to user accounts.

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If you have any apps on your phone that connect to AF you need to resetu your password on them. They will continue to try and connect to AF using your old credentials and cause those messages. Accross 3 PCs and 2 phones I had to update passwords 28 times.
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If you have any apps on your phone that connect to AF you need to resetu your password on them. They will continue to try and connect to AF using your old credentials and cause those messages. Accross 3 PCs and 2 phones I had to update passwords 28 times.
I'll do that, but those apps (Tapatalk) were not running on my phone or tablet, even in the background. Don't they have to be running for that to happen?
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I'll do that, but those apps (Tapatalk) were not running on my phone or tablet, even in the background. Don't they have to be running for that to happen?
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^^^ that's the key, they check in for any push notifications. I had Forum Runner and Tapatalk both trying to check for PM's.
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No and no. I just checked again to be sure. However, I certainly acknowledge that Tapatalk could have been the culprit, since I didn't change my password in that app until until just now. Like I said, Tapatalk wasn't running at all as far as I know, but who knows? That does seem more plausible than some hacker trying to use my account out of the thousands and thousands of accounts on AF...

Edit: Nevermind, I did have those settings turned on in Tapatalk. That must have been it.
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i changed my password on my computer bright and early this morning and soon after received 3 notices that someone was attempting to log into my account with an incorrect password. i do have the phandroid app loaded on both my phone and tablet. i ran the network info app and realized that the ip address trying to access my account was the external ip for my isp. so i just opened the phandroid app on both phone and tablet and signed out, then waited the 15 minutes and resigned in. no more notices. all is good.
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Thats quite interesting considering about a week ago I contacted you about the same thing...hmm.

Glad it is resolved though, thanks guys!
Yep, recall it clearly and the response given was coordinated with admin with the best information at the time - but definitely, your query was escalated.
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To all involved in finding and fixing some evil persons attempt . :-)
I for one am very appreciative of this.. and thanks again.
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agreed, THIS IS HOW A BREACH SHOULD BE HANDLED !!!!


It's really sad a "hobby/user forum" (no offense) can get it "right", but banks,online retailers, etc. fail so miserably.

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I just spent 2 hours changing forum and email passwords for work and home and still have a tablet left.

Then the "security" fault lies with YOU, not AF...

using the same password everywhere is beyond bad.

I could see using the same password across forums, but e-mail? NEVER...

Please review your security practices before complaining about others... (glass houses and all that stuff)
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For those who "think" AF dropped the ball.


Below is how most places handle security..

Nearly half a million Yahoo passwords leaked following hack


note: as of now yahoo has "no comment"
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I changed my password for this site, no issues at all. Luckily, this was one of the many sites that I've already converted the password over to a completely randomly generated password. The old password was 12 characters long, the new password is 16 characters long.

It has been said before by some people that you shouldn't use the same password for every site that you use. I personally use a randomly generated password for about 75% of all web sites that I have accounts on and save these passwords in my Roboform data.
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Yeah, my band's web site hosted by 1&1 was attacked yesterday. Somehow they got into my main web page and altered it to call an install of a virus. Took me 2 hours to clean off my computer and remove the virus call.
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I changed my password for this site, no issues at all. Luckily, this was one of the many sites that I've already converted the password over to a completely randomly generated password. The old password was 12 characters long, the new password is 16 characters long.

It has been said before by some people that you shouldn't use the same password for every site that you use. I personally use a randomly generated password for about 75% of all web sites that I have accounts on and save these passwords in my Roboform data.

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It's really sad a "hobby/user forum" (no offense) can get it "right", but banks,online retailers, etc. fail so miserably.
FYI.. There is a GIANT difference between a vbulletin forum and the framework a bank or most online retailers run
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FYI.. There is a GIANT difference between a vbulletin forum and the framework a bank or most online retailers run
most definitely, banks, online retailers have much MORE at stake and should MORE forthcoming and faster to notify their users because the risk is greater...


if a vBulletin site can start notifying user within a couple hours, a bank should be doing it with an hour of confirming their systems were compromised and information lost.
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Thanks for the info, may I ask if the passwords are hashed and/or salted?
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You need to reset the password on any apps that access the forums (Tapatalk, Forum Runner, official Phandroid app) as they will continue pinging the site to check for any push notifictions. The same thing happened to me.
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Yup, figured that out after I posted. I needed to re-log in on my galaxy S. All better now. Thanks for the shout-back!

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I do think a mass email would have been a good idea. Sometimes I dont have the time to log on for days or even a week or more.

Besides that great job on cleaning up the mess guys
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I also have some issue before.for a couple of a minute I logout my profile,l found some one already login with a name don't remember the name.then I logout his profile.its seems very strange.

but my profile is always secure because of good great amazing security and great people hard work to secure Android forum thanks a lot..
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This is a known issue i believe. I don't think you are logged in as someone else, just their name is displayed.
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ya may be just their name displayed.
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PM Phases, but can I ask why?
1. I dont use the site..
2. One less site to worry about..

I think its time I start cleaning up the sites I am a member of. Nothing against the site here.. Just if I do not use a site, why continue to be a member.
 
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2. One less site to worry about..

I think its time I start cleaning up the sites I am a member of. Nothing against the site here.. Just if I do not use a site, why continue to be a member.
Fair enough. While I left my account nearly dormant for 18 months, when I did have a need it was nice to have it still around. I wish you luck in the future and would hate to see you go.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 03:28 PM   #141 (permalink)
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To the Rob, Phases, and staff of Phandroid (Android Forums),
Good job in being so forthcoming with information as soon as it was discovered the site had been attacked, allowing your members to change their passwords and minimize any potential damage to ourselves both here and any other site where we might use the same user name/password combination.
With that in mind I would just like to remind others users who may be upset that their info MAY have been accessed that many attacks on Government, Military, Financial, and Privet sites (that we may never hear about) take place every day. Examples of this are China was able to access DoD servers @ Los Alamos and steal advanced nuclear warhead designs, the cyber-attacks on Iran, and it seems almost monthly we here about some credit card progressing company being hit months after the fact.
This is the nature of the internet and there is nothing a website or company can do to prevent an attack from happening in the first place.
What they can do is invest in good firewalls and monitoring software so they know when such attacks occur and notify users so they can take any actions we need to. This is exactly what AndroidForums/Neverstill Media did, so to all the staff involved, Thank You again!
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Old July 12th, 2012, 04:54 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Eh, let 'em have my password. Thanks to LastPass, it was a randomly generated password not in use on any other of my accounts. I've updated it with another randomly generated password unique to this account. =)
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I had an email saying someone had tried accessing my account, but from my IP. My IP changes every few hours, so it seems very very fishy.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 05:31 PM   #144 (permalink)
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I had an email saying someone had tried accessing my account, but from my IP. My IP changes every few hours, so it seems very very fishy.
You need to reset your password in any app on your devices that connects to Android Forums (Tapatalk, Forum Runner, or the AF app itself) as they will try and connect to the site for push notifications.
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Thanks to All... I am very impressed with your speed and professionalism.

I have done what I need to, and have no concerns. Thanks Again
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You need to reset your password in any app on your devices that connects to Android Forums (Tapatalk, Forum Runner, or the AF app itself) as they will try and connect to the site for push notifications.
Ah yes, the Phandroid app... silly me

P.S. Does this forum support Tapatalk now?
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Ah yes, the Phandroid app... silly me
No worries, I did the same exact thing.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 05:46 PM   #148 (permalink)
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You need to reset your password in any app on your devices that connects to Android Forums (Tapatalk, Forum Runner, or the AF app itself) as they will try and connect to the site for push notifications.
This ought to be added to the first post in red so it doesn't have to be re-posted as many times.
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This ought to be added to the first post in red so it doesn't have to be re-posted as many times.
I've already asked for that.
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I'm interested in whether the password hashes were salted. I'll feel better knowing they were salted.
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