This site has the worst "up" time of any site I have ever been on.
Long time users of this site know that what is being experienced now is unusual, and, having followed updates posted by Phases, that the site will be back to its old self, perhaps with improvements as well, soon.
Long time users of this site know that what is being experienced now is unusual, and, having followed updates posted by Phases, that the site will be back to its old self, perhaps with improvements as well, soon.
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Originally Posted by Frisco
Long time users of this site know that what is being experienced now is unusual, and, having followed updates posted by Phases, that the site will be back to its old self, perhaps with improvements as well, soon.
It's been working great, since I posted the info about not being able to access my User CP.
Something's happened somewhere in the pipe. There are over 4900 users active right now and it's flying like manure off the proverbial digging implement.
Something's happened somewhere in the pipe. There are over 4900 users active right now and it's flying like manure off the proverbial digging implement.
Perhaps some of the issues here have to do with the downstream routers?
is the messaging system broken? I cant seem to sent PM's to anyone. My "sent" folder is empty, and there is no history of me ever replying to messages.
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is the messaging system broken? I cant seem to sent PM's to anyone. My "sent" folder is empty, and there is no history of me ever replying to messages.
Be sure to have the settings the way you want them in the Edit Options > Private Messaging section of your Control Panel ("User CP" up at the top left of the page).
Interesting; about an hour ago I posted in another thread about "connecting to neverstill.com" hanging for nearly a full minute before the page will load.. any page at this site.
Interesting; about an hour ago I posted in another thread about "connecting to neverstill.com" hanging for nearly a full minute before the page will load.. any page at this site.
When ever they're down or experiencing database errors, so are we. When ever NeverStill is running great, so are we. I've been keeping close tabs on this for the last few weeks..
The fact that the site hangs up trying to connect to Never Still tells me that Android Forums is dependent on it for what ever reason. We need to move away from them.. IMO.
From what I can see they are the folks that built these great sites.. they're not the host. I don't particularly see a need to have to connect to them every time we're trying to browse this site.
That makes more sense then having our signal pass through their data gathering apparatus.
But, don't forget, I'm just guessing about that.
Perhaps Neverstill enhances the routing for this site rather than uses it in the way I suggested there.
Me not know. Me make poke in dark.
Alright, so I asked Rob..
Rob owns NeverStill and it acts as the ad server for Android Forums.
NeverStill goes offline due to ads that run and get stuck. It isn't the fault of NeverStill's server. So, when NeverStill drops down, Android Forums is constantly trying to fetch the ad data and it ultimately ends up slowing us down.
Rob owns NeverStill and it acts as the ad server for Android Forums.
NeverStill goes offline due to ads that run and get stuck. It isn't the fault of NeverStill's server. So, when NeverStill drops down, Android Forums is constantly trying to fetch the ad data and it ultimately ends up slowing us down.
So the right course of action for the owner of this site would be:
you will see in that URL openx, openx is a ad delivery service...a very popular one, you can basically plug all your add networks into openx and via analytics and data analysis it will deliver the best paying ads per page view.
of course the downfall of that, as you guys have concluded, is that if you have a site trying to serve an add and that site is not loading or down...it will slow your site to a crawl.
you will see in that URL openx, openx is a ad delivery service...a very popular one, you can basically plug all your add networks into openx and via analytics and data analysis it will deliver the best paying ads per page view.
of course the downfall of that, as you guys have concluded, is that if you have a site trying to serve an add and that site is not loading or down...it will slow your site to a crawl.
you are right trident, and restricting anything from a user cause they don't pay rubs me the wrong way in general.
back to the openx thing, if i am not mistaken they do have a feature that will stop a ad service in openx is the site trying to serve that ad is delayed, lagging, etc. been a long time since i set up and used openx....it is pretty complex.
you are right trident, and restricting anything from a user cause they don't pay rubs me the wrong way in general.
back to the openx thing, if i am not mistaken they do have a feature that will stop a ad service in openx is the site trying to serve that ad is delayed, lagging, etc. been a long time since i set up and used openx....it is pretty complex.
Hmm... might be something for Rob to look into. I think that would solve a lot of our problems here.
AF will be getting its OWN database server in the coming days which should not only help this site FLY, but also relieve stress from the database server on Phandroid, Neverstill (ad server), and our android applications website. All of this should help things improve across the board.
When 3rd parties have slow loading ads, there isn't anything we can really do about it. We'll nag whoever we can to improve speed of content that loads from another source and we're already doing everything we can to make sure our own content loads quickly.
We'll always keep AF free to everyone for the vast majority of features, with premium memberships simply being a way to offer special priveleges and features that are "perks", not typically standard requirements.
We will probably wait until this upcoming weekend to move the database server to reduce the irritation of downtime. But maybe not, we'll see. If the site is down for an extended period of time, cross your fingers that it is because we're changing servers!
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I'll make a suggestion: drop the number of posts per page in the forum to limit the amount of data transferred at once between the database server and the end user. Sure it will increase the number of requests, as people will have to click "next page", but it will decrease the size of the response. I've had to do this on several databases, if you find the right median it should improve things.
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Yup... AF now has its very own Web Server AND its very own super-powered DB server so let's hope it kicks some serious you know what for the forseeable future. Of course if this place keeps growing at an alarming rate, you never know.
This should also make Phandroid and our upcoming Applications site much, MUCH faster since they don't have the burden of AF's ridiculous traffic.
Regarding the "Top Stats"... I'm not sure about that but we can discuss. If we test it out I'd like to have our contracted server expert around and available just in case. So perhaps we'll test drive it next week, but I wouldn't expect to see it before that.
I miss having it too... but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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Neverstill isn't actually the problem. That is owned by us and is our "ad server" but isn't the source of the slow loads.
Phandroid has been getting hit by malicious users trying to bring down our servers. AndroidForums shares some of the code with Phandroid, so when Phandroid gets brought down, AF struggles to load at an acceptable speed.
We continue to look into these server issues and while things HAVE improve drastically, we continue to feverishly pursue continued improvement. We appreciate your feedback and keep it coming. The more specific the better.
JFYI...this site is frustratingly slow when I go to it 95% of the time, no mater where I access it from. My fastest access point is at home, cable modem, wiht 35Mbits of speed to my provider.
Everything is loading really quickly now 
