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Old July 15th, 2011, 03:32 PM   #651 (permalink)
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As long as they put an asterisk next to his name with a footnote that says he was juicing to achieve those stats, i have no objection to admitting him in the HOF.

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As long as they put an asterisk next to his name with a footnote that says he was juicing to achieve those stats, i have no objection to admitting him in the HOF.
I don't see that happening. They tried to do an asterisk with Maris when he broke Ruth's record, but that didn't stick and actually made perfect, logical sense.
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First and foremost MLB is not the body that approves or disapproves enshrinement in the HOF. The Baseball Writers of America (BBWA) are the people who vote players in.
Secondly, it is naive of all baseball fans to believe that there are no cheaters enshrined in the HOF already. Players of yesteryears used greenies, and speed and other drugs during their careers and were still enshrined.
Thirdly, it could be argued that the players who took steroids did not cheat due to the fact that MLB had no policies regarding steroids at the time when the players were using. The commissioner and the owners had no problems pocketing the profits from the "steroid era" but they sure did not do much to curtail or stop it. Their amazed and surprised acts when the scandal broke was both insulting and infuriating for anyone that considers themselves a baseball fan. The truth of the matter is this, in my opinion every last person in the front office, clubhouse and everyone else should be held accountable for the steroid mess in baseball. It is impossible for me to believe that from the lowliest clubhouse attendant to the scout that signed the player to the owner that ultimately authorized the big money contract could not look at that player and see and recognize that there was more going on than weight training. The players did not cheat so to speak, they plain and simply broke the law by possessing and using the steroids. They should have been punished by the law first and foremost.
Now that being said it is not only the players who should be blamed for the "steroid era" there is plenty of blame to go around. The game of baseball has been damaged worse by greedy agents and its' own spineless comissioner than by anything else and that includes steroids.
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Anyone watching The Franchise? A must see for baseball fans.
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Not heard of it.. show? movie?


2 out of 3 from Cards!! Woo Hoo!!
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It's on Showtime. Kind of like Hard Knocks but for baseball. This year they are showing the Giants. Some great behind the scenes stuff.
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Oh crap! I wish I had Showtime so I could watch it
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I know, i got showtime but never heard of this, might have to download check hulu for this
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I know, i got showtime but never heard of this, might have to download check hulu for this
LOL! You definitely won't find it on Hulu. I'll just stream it from the web.
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What I don't love is wasting a good pitching performance and getting shut out twice in a row
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Killa Kershaw vs Little Timmy the Beast today. Go Kershaw!

Reds better hold onto this lead. I need Cueto to get this damn W.
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Lol.... right. Sad that we took 2 outta 3 from the cards then stunk it up against the pirates
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Lol.... right. Sad that we took 2 outta 3 from the cards then stunk it up against the pirates
After a long hard look, the Bucco's are looking pretty legit. My curiosity is who they can acquire at the deadline to solidify the pen and their lineup.
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After a long hard look, the Bucco's are looking pretty legit. My curiosity is who they can acquire at the deadline to solidify the pen and their lineup.
they add a good piece and they could very well be representing the central in playoffs
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That would be awesome ... about time we had a "turnpike series" instead of a "subway series"
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Hahaha, the Mets haven't put up a fight since 2000 but even then they stood zero chance.
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Bats came alive tonight. It's been a while since we had a good offensive romping.
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No way! Figures though, that boy seemed good
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Rays call up a top prospect - Desmond Jennings. Looks impressive in his first MLB start.
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Who'd a thunk that in the team full of aces, the lowest ERA is held by the rookie? If they trade him ... nah, they aren't that short sighted.
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I tried to grab him when I heard he was coming up, but in a 16 man / 20 man league, pick ups like that are near impossible haha
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I tried to grab him when I heard he was coming up, but in a 16 man / 20 man league, pick ups like that are near impossible haha
I was able to snag him in my roto league. Very impressive start for the youngster.

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Worley is looking pretty legit. I picked him up in my H2H league and was pretty damn stoked about that 2 ER CG last night.
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And that was his first +1 era game since coming back up in June. The last rookie to that here was Carlton.
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That was basically the attitude of at least one poster on the other forum. They argued that yes, Clemens cheated, however, MLB did absolutely nothing to prevent him or anyone else from cheating so it's hypocritical of them to turn around and deny him entry into the HOF for cheating. I can't say that I agree with that logic completely, but I can understand it for sure.
By that logic, a college that denies a diploma to a student caught cheating is being hypocritical because they did nothing to prevent him. That's basically saying people can't be expected to do the right thing unless they are prevented from doing the wrong things. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
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Loving the number of 'thanks' i got...

prize of 5 internets to anyone who knows why
In case it changes its 1492
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I agree they should. And though this is probably the more popular number I'm partial to 4,256
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So for some reason it just hit me that my dyslexia must have been kicking in..... 1492? lol Christopher Columbus?!?!?!

I was (obviously) thinking 4192
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Ichiro probably would have come the closest if he had played his entire career in the US.
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Yea, heard some talk about that... 'if you add his hits in japan with what he's done here' BLAH!!

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