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Old November 28th, 2009, 06:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Got Hero Lag? Try this...

My hero started out great. Slick and fast. Then it started to slow down. Switching screens or loading something new could take a few seconds. Sometimes I couldn't answer a call, it was like it was frozen up. My wife's moment seemed 5x faster.

I read in this thread (about midway down) that Jonnythan said after he removed Shopsavvy and a couple others things really sped up.

I tried it and WOW, a huge difference! The hero is back to normal for me. If you're having lag issues and have shopsavvy installed, I'd try an uninstall and see what happens. If anyone does narrow it down to other apps, would you kindly reply to we can let one of the developers know something is up with their program and the hero?

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I am assming you were referring to the thread I created on the Sprint forum? About the time when my phone SCREWED me over? Well i did uninstall shopsavvy, and it was fast at first, but now its slow again...
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You make a great point. This phone is snappy and fast out of the box. I know people just to blame the phone for this so called lag, when in fact if the phone is slowing down it is becaue of applications. I have read threads where people have loaded 30 + apps on there phone. Try loading that many apps on any PC loaded with Windows or Linux and the results will be similiar.
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I'm curious... I know many people aren't rebooting their phones or doing battery pulls... Not saying those in this thread aren't, but many aren't. Why? This is a little PC in the palm of your hand. REBOOT IT! I install and uninstall apps all the time and I don't have serious lag issues.

Or, maybe I just have lower expectations of the device. It's all relative, I suppose.
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I'm curious... I know many people aren't rebooting their phones or doing battery pulls... Not saying those in this thread aren't, but many aren't. Why? This is a little PC in the palm of your hand. REBOOT IT! I install and uninstall apps all the time and I don't have serious lag issues.

Or, maybe I just have lower expectations of the device. It's all relative, I suppose.
Totally agree, I personally never have problems with this phone. I reboot each night before I charge.
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You make a great point. This phone is snappy and fast out of the box. I know people just to blame the phone for this so called lag, when in fact if the phone is slowing down it is becaue of applications. I have read threads where people have loaded 30 + apps on there phone. Try loading that many apps on any PC loaded with Windows or Linux and the results will be similiar.
If the applications are just installed then they are just using storage it's not going to make any difference (well at least for Linux, Windows situation is a bit different with the registry). It's not until an application is ran that it will start using RAM, running lots of applications at once can cause problems, but Android does a pretty decent job of handling memory.

It's when you start adding widgets that get forecasts, sports scores, tweets, facebook posts and so on that you are going to run into problems. Background services like locale and others all eat memory too.

I also on a side note, since I did my fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10 I've probably cycled through at least 300 different packages, and a whole lot more then 30 left installed. It's just as snappy as day one.
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Totally agree, I personally never have problems with this phone. I reboot each night before I charge.
I power down and charge when I go to sleep each night. Then I let it boot up while I'm in the shower in the morning. Seems to me that the phone is snappier if you let it completely boot up -- i.e., let it get through all the "loading" messages -- before trying to use it. It's not like I'm going to need the phone in the shower anyway.
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Android does a pretty decent job of handling memory.
Yep, couldn't agree more. It takes some getting used too, but years ahead of my last phone WinMo. That would just totally lock-up, freeze, loose everything, etc., anyway...

If you install an app and notice any unwanted change to the phone, then dump it. There certainly have been a few I installed and subsequently removed.

I don't think any one app or another makes a big difference though and I'm close to 30 myself with no issues. Just don't load 30 apps at one sitting and then go "wtf"? Also, try going in an cleaning out the caches of programs, simple maintenance goes a long way... there's many posts here that are helpful to performance if you are having those issues.

I set up a scene with loads of widgets just to see what effect it had on battery life, lag, performance, etc., and there was some but nothing worth noting. The battery life was noticeable though... hehe, but that's to be expected.

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-clear your browser cache
-clear your browser history
-backup sms messages so you can delete threads periodically
-On the G1 -- keep at least 25-30mb of memory free. Dipping below 25mb free I start to see lag very often.

I have no more than 2 widgets per screen, and I don't have a home replacement -- Just a waste of space, and since the normal home application is still installed AND running regardless, you've now got another app running in the background.

--Peroidically going to menu>settings>applications>manage applications and doing the following.

-Sort by size
-Start at the top tapping on apps
-If available tap the "clear cache" button
-For SOME apps (BE CAREFUL) using the "Clear Data" button can be helpful. But be very very careful, clearing data may remove login information, settings, playlists, or other important things that you don't want to have to re-enter again.

Things like facebook, the browser, maps, weatherbug, BuddyMob, tend to cache content and this can eat up memory. The Marketplace app is THE biggest culprit, especially if you spend a lot of time window shopping through the market.

Doing all this stuff I can EASILY get back about 5-12mb of phone memory.
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i just constantly monitor the apps running on my phone. i use three different task managers because they all seem to give me different reports. some find things running in the background the others don't. any who . . . the three i use are:

-- TasKiller (full)
-- Advanced Task Manager (full)
-- TaskControl

i am pretty certain i have tried all the task managers in the market rated three stars+ and these are the only three i kept. all the others i found lacking and out of the three i have now they seem to cover all bases. actually, you may be able to just stick with Advance Task Manager and TaskControl just fine. Advanced Task Manager has a widget to kill tasks that works better than the TasKiller widget.
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I have to agree with punkzanyj too. On my hero this morning I went through and cleared all the cache on programs that really didn't need it. I removed a few apps and went from 89mb to 103mb.
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-clear your browser cache
-clear your browser history
-backup sms messages so you can delete threads periodically
-On the G1 -- keep at least 25-30mb of memory free. Dipping below 25mb free I start to see lag very often.

I have no more than 2 widgets per screen, and I don't have a home replacement -- Just a waste of space, and since the normal home application is still installed AND running regardless, you've now got another app running in the background.

--Peroidically going to menu>settings>applications>manage applications and doing the following.

-Sort by size
-Start at the top tapping on apps
-If available tap the "clear cache" button
-For SOME apps (BE CAREFUL) using the "Clear Data" button can be helpful. But be very very careful, clearing data may remove login information, settings, playlists, or other important things that you don't want to have to re-enter again.

Things like facebook, the browser, maps, weatherbug, BuddyMob, tend to cache content and this can eat up memory. The Marketplace app is THE biggest culprit, especially if you spend a lot of time window shopping through the market.

Doing all this stuff I can EASILY get back about 5-12mb of phone memory.
I did this and Internal Storage went from 92mb to 105mb!

Nice...At least its a good way to keep everything as clean as possible.

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-clear your browser cache
-clear your browser history
-backup sms messages so you can delete threads periodically
-On the G1 -- keep at least 25-30mb of memory free. Dipping below 25mb free I start to see lag very often.

I have no more than 2 widgets per screen, and I don't have a home replacement -- Just a waste of space, and since the normal home application is still installed AND running regardless, you've now got another app running in the background.

--Peroidically going to menu>settings>applications>manage applications and doing the following.

-Sort by size
-Start at the top tapping on apps
-If available tap the "clear cache" button
-For SOME apps (BE CAREFUL) using the "Clear Data" button can be helpful. But be very very careful, clearing data may remove login information, settings, playlists, or other important things that you don't want to have to re-enter again.

Things like facebook, the browser, maps, weatherbug, BuddyMob, tend to cache content and this can eat up memory. The Marketplace app is THE biggest culprit, especially if you spend a lot of time window shopping through the market.

Doing all this stuff I can EASILY get back about 5-12mb of phone memory.

I gained back over 20 megs!

I use a program called "Close everything" it isn't the most beautiful, feature laden task killer out there but. It works flawlessly! It happened to be the first one I downloaded and have had ZERO problems with it.
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-clear your browser cache
-clear your browser history
-backup sms messages so you can delete threads periodically
-On the G1 -- keep at least 25-30mb of memory free. Dipping below 25mb free I start to see lag very often.

I have no more than 2 widgets per screen, and I don't have a home replacement -- Just a waste of space, and since the normal home application is still installed AND running regardless, you've now got another app running in the background.

--Peroidically going to menu>settings>applications>manage applications and doing the following.

-Sort by size
-Start at the top tapping on apps
-If available tap the "clear cache" button
-For SOME apps (BE CAREFUL) using the "Clear Data" button can be helpful. But be very very careful, clearing data may remove login information, settings, playlists, or other important things that you don't want to have to re-enter again.

Things like facebook, the browser, maps, weatherbug, BuddyMob, tend to cache content and this can eat up memory. The Marketplace app is THE biggest culprit, especially if you spend a lot of time window shopping through the market.

Doing all this stuff I can EASILY get back about 5-12mb of phone memory.
didn't realize just how much crap I had running thanks for the tips!
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-clear your browser cache
-clear your browser history
-backup sms messages so you can delete threads periodically
-On the G1 -- keep at least 25-30mb of memory free. Dipping below 25mb free I start to see lag very often.

I have no more than 2 widgets per screen, and I don't have a home replacement -- Just a waste of space, and since the normal home application is still installed AND running regardless, you've now got another app running in the background.

--Peroidically going to menu>settings>applications>manage applications and doing the following.

-Sort by size
-Start at the top tapping on apps
-If available tap the "clear cache" button
-For SOME apps (BE CAREFUL) using the "Clear Data" button can be helpful. But be very very careful, clearing data may remove login information, settings, playlists, or other important things that you don't want to have to re-enter again.

Things like facebook, the browser, maps, weatherbug, BuddyMob, tend to cache content and this can eat up memory. The Marketplace app is THE biggest culprit, especially if you spend a lot of time window shopping through the market.

Doing all this stuff I can EASILY get back about 5-12mb of phone memory.
This post was so helpfull. I gained back some memory as well.
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Same here, gained 32 mb. Didnt notice any improvement in snapiness though, although its nothing to complain about as is.
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I see a lot saying this cleared up space but only one report of lag. If i clear the cache of programs, is anyone noticing a speed boost from doing this?
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i'm still looking for a cure to my phone's lag
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I gained near 20 mb of space after performing the steps above, not noticing any differences in performance tho, glad about the tip tho
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I did one thing and my phone been running fast....I ROOTED IT!
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The most annoying lag occurs when I type online. Text messages are ok, Im just now getting the hang of it. But when Im trying to reply online, for example if I were on my hero now trying to type all this, it lags like there's no tomorrow and its so annoying. I can somewhat tolerate it, but at the same time it would be nice to get rid of it somehow. Anybody know what I'm talking about? I know when I first got it, it wasnt like that. But I didnt have as much on it. I did the steps above, and its a little bit better, but its still not as smooth as I would want it.
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-clear your browser cache
-clear your browser history
-backup sms messages so you can delete threads periodically
-On the G1 -- keep at least 25-30mb of memory free. Dipping below 25mb free I start to see lag very often.

I have no more than 2 widgets per screen, and I don't have a home replacement -- Just a waste of space, and since the normal home application is still installed AND running regardless, you've now got another app running in the background.

--Peroidically going to menu>settings>applications>manage applications and doing the following.

-Sort by size
-Start at the top tapping on apps
-If available tap the "clear cache" button
-For SOME apps (BE CAREFUL) using the "Clear Data" button can be helpful. But be very very careful, clearing data may remove login information, settings, playlists, or other important things that you don't want to have to re-enter again.

Things like facebook, the browser, maps, weatherbug, BuddyMob, tend to cache content and this can eat up memory. The Marketplace app is THE biggest culprit, especially if you spend a lot of time window shopping through the market.

Doing all this stuff I can EASILY get back about 5-12mb of phone memory.
Really useful. My phone feels quite snappy again. Let's see how it does over the next few days.

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For me, the biggest lag creators are the People app and the Browser app. If you get an alert that you missed a call and you check the aler, it loads People to show the missed call list; at that point I have serious lag until I go into Task Manager and kill People, then things are snappy again. For the Browser, I've found that the more complicated the last page you viewed was, the worse the lag is, so I created a bookmark pointing to to about:blank (I use that as my home page too) and always navigate to that bookmark before I go back to the home screen. If I forget to do that, the phone lags and I have to go to Task Manager to kill the browser.

But the People app is the worst. It's a shame that to have a decent phone we have to resort to killing People.
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Try " Spare Parts ". After I downloaded it, go to window animation and change to fast, then go to transition animation and change to fast. I noticed a increase in performance. It also gives you good battery info such as percentage, health, temp. Hope this helps.
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Try " Spare Parts ". After I downloaded it, go to window animation and change to fast, then go to transition animation and change to fast. I noticed a increase in performance. It also gives you good battery info such as percentage, health, temp. Hope this helps.
Hmmm... Interesting! Anybody else try this?
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Unbelievable!!!

The fixed ALL lag, including making and receiving calls.

My Hero (2.1) has been horribly slow and buggy since I bought it new. It was originally 1.6 and I did the update when it was released. The 2.1 update did improve performance, ever so slightly, but this App is God-Sent!!! I was looking to upgrade to the EVO, but not anymore. At least, not yet. ;-)

Anyone experiencing lag should most definitely download and install this app!

Change both settings as described above.
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Another thing I have done is stop using Sense UI and only use Launcher Pro and love it customization and have notice a large difference between the lag and others issues, much better, I was close to rooting and this launcher has made me love my phone again


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Unbelievable!!!

The fixed ALL lag, including making and receiving calls.

My Hero (2.1) has been horribly slow and buggy since I bought it new. It was originally 1.6 and I did the update when it was released. The 2.1 update did improve performance, ever so slightly, but this App is God-Sent!!! I was looking to upgrade to the EVO, but not anymore. At least, not yet. ;-)

Anyone experiencing lag should most definitely download and install this app!

Change both settings as described above.
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Totally agree, I personally never have problems with this phone. I reboot each night before I charge.
Guys...

A lot of people talk about rebooting and resetting the Hero constantly on here...not sure it's correct to say people aren't trying that.

Having said that, should one really have to reboot the phone or take the battery out every night to keep it working? iPhone users don't have to do that...LOL. And given your computer analogy, it's appropriate to point out that Mac users don't either. My g/f had to reboot her Mac maybe once in a year. ;O)

Why not just have a more effective memory-management system (such as the 2.2-added option to install apps on the SD card that should've been standard form 1.0) in Android so the system doesn't get bogged down?

Your ShopSavvy tip sounds valuable, but has anyone verified with specific testing?

@Moderators: Can we combine this with the Sticky "CONSOLIDATED LAG FIGHTING THREAD" we tried to start?
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A lot of people talk about rebooting and resetting the Hero constantly on here...not sure it's correct to say people aren't trying that.

Having said that, should one really have to reboot the phone or take the battery out every night to keep it working? iPhone users don't have to do that...LOL. And given your computer analogy, it's appropriate to point out that Mac users don't either. My g/f had to reboot her Mac maybe once in a year. ;O)

Why not just have a more effective memory-management system (such as the 2.2-added option to install apps on the SD card that should've been standard form 1.0) in Android so the system doesn't get bogged down?

Your ShopSavvy tip sounds valuable, but has anyone verified with specific testing?

@Moderators: Can we combine this with the Sticky "CONSOLIDATED LAG FIGHTING THREAD" we tried to start?
I agree,I don't know of a reason why the sd card couldn't have been designed to fully utilize it out of the box.Sorry for getting a little off track here.
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Having so much internal memory will only go so far when it comes to fighting the lag, but I will say that it is amazing how bloated Stock 2.1 seems. Haven't used it for more than a handful of hours the first day I got my Hero, so I don't know how much actual free internal space you have out of the box, but I remember it seeming like not a whole lot (the bloatware doesn't really help either). Right now I have about 20 or 21 apps installed, and have 125mb of internal memory left. I am rooted, and running a CM6 build: after a clean install and installing necessary Google apps like Market, Gmail, etc (and promptly deleting the ones I have no use for), I think I had about 140-150mb free internally, maybe more, don't really remember since I've been running this setup for a week or two now.

If you want to stay unrooted and stock for whatever reasons, Launcherpro is seriously the way to go to eliminate most, if probably not all, lag. Set the App Drawer opening speed all the way up, Screen Previews opening speed all the way, Homescreens Minimum Scrolling speed all the way... really makes a difference, and if you also download Spare Parts like a poster above said, it will be even faster/smoother. Of course, you will lose Sense widgets or whatever, but there are replacements for most, if not all, of them. Small price to pay to make the phone about 1,000,000x more usable, especially if you don't want to root/flash ROMs/overclock/etc.
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Also, with Launcherpro, you can hide apps you either don't use (like bloatware you can't uninstall), have on a homescreen or on a dock. I recall reading that not having a lot of stuff in the app drawer speeds the phone up, though I don't know how true that actually is.
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Having so much internal memory will only go so far when it comes to fighting the lag, but I will say that it is amazing how bloated Stock 2.1 seems. Haven't used it for more than a handful of hours the first day I got my Hero, so I don't know how much actual free internal space you have out of the box, but I remember it seeming like not a whole lot (the bloatware doesn't really help either). Right now I have about 20 or 21 apps installed, and have 125mb of internal memory left. I am rooted, and running a CM6 build: after a clean install and installing necessary Google apps like Market, Gmail, etc (and promptly deleting the ones I have no use for), I think I had about 140-150mb free internally, maybe more, don't really remember since I've been running this setup for a week or two now.

If you want to stay unrooted and stock for whatever reasons, Launcherpro is seriously the way to go to eliminate most, if probably not all, lag. Set the App Drawer opening speed all the way up, Screen Previews opening speed all the way, Homescreens Minimum Scrolling speed all the way... really makes a difference, and if you also download Spare Parts like a poster above said, it will be even faster/smoother. Of course, you will lose Sense widgets or whatever, but there are replacements for most, if not all, of them. Small price to pay to make the phone about 1,000,000x more usable, especially if you don't want to root/flash ROMs/overclock/etc.
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okay me too. This seems to have definitely made a huge difference and I was seriously loosing my mind over the lag and other annoying things this phone is plagued with since 2.1. Oh well, lesson learned -> HTC Sense sucks !
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Spare Parts noticeably reduces lag. I wasn't having any serious problem with 2.1, but thought I'd give it a try--glad I did! The screen seems even more responsive.

LauncherPro seems pedestrian to me... not as clean/smooth as HTC Sense. This version is not as good as the one for the Google Nexus.
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I installed the Spare Parts application about 18 hours ago (my phone was unplugged 27 hours ago). My battery level was 75%. I made a few short phone calls, listened to voicemail, and updated a couple of apps without the phone being plugged in. Today, ~12:30pm, my phone is now showing 71%. That's about a 4% drop in 12 hours... overnight I had non-essential functions switched off as usual (Internet, Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth, etc). Normally I'd expect the battery level to show more like a 10% drop overnight.

Now, it's only been about a month since I got this phone. I don't know if it's just a coincidence on the battery "burning in", or if this newly installed app has somehow optimized whatever was contributing to the battery drain. Has anybody else here noticed any battery life improvement using Spare Parts?
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^^ Well, it seemed to be just a fluke. Battery consumption is averaging about the same. However, UI performance is a bit better. Increasing the settings as described above helped.
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The most annoying lag occurs when I type online. Text messages are ok, Im just now getting the hang of it. But when Im trying to reply online, for example if I were on my hero now trying to type all this, it lags like there's no tomorrow and its so annoying. I can somewhat tolerate it, but at the same time it would be nice to get rid of it somehow. Anybody know what I'm talking about? I know when I first got it, it wasnt like that. But I didnt have as much on it. I did the steps above, and its a little bit better, but its still not as smooth as I would want it.

Turning off the Haptic feedback (The vibrating the phone makes every time you hit a key)fixed my keyboard lag BIG TIME.
in fact, I turned off the vibrate function on just about every phone feature that used it, and it helped quite a bit.
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