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Old December 9th, 2009, 03:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I wanted to put together a collective for all of you Hero users out there having trouble with poor battery life or if you are looking to get a little bit more. Feel free to add your thoughts and discuss. I will add suggestions as they come in as well. I have broken it into two sections, the first list won't really affect your usability of the phone. The second list will disable features that help the phone auto update or pull e-mail.

First and foremost, please make sure you have the Sprint 1.5 Maintenance Release already installed.

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Brightness - Disabling the Auto Backlight feature and setting your brightness to an acceptable low level.
Menu > Settings > Sound & Display
(I have mine halfway between middle and lowest and i'm considering going farther yet as the screen is still pretty bright down this low.)
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Screen Time-out - Set this as low as you can live with it.
Menu > Settings > Sound & Display
(I have mine at 30 seconds and make a habit to turn the screen off before I set it down)
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E-mail polling - Other than your GMail, if you are using the phone for e-mail, it helps to set it to check for new mail on a longer interval 20 minutes.
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Self Updating Widgets - The HTC Flipclock has been called out as a battery hog as well as some weather widgets.
(I try to keep it to one self updating widget per home screen.)
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On/Off Toggles - For Sense UI, HTC has widget toggles for GPS, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. I toggle them all when needed. The extra 2 seconds it takes for them to turn on does nothing to impact my usefulness of the features.
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Location - Location Setting enabled but "Use Wireless Networks" disabled. When needed I toggle on my GPS. Also this will provide a much more accurate location for Google Maps and Sprint Nav.
Menu > Settings > Location
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Automated Task Killers not so good - They run in the background closing out your tasks that you leave open. Two things here that contribute to the bad battery life. If you have to re-open everything from scratch all the time it uses more CPU time. Since android apps enter a pause state when you are not using them the CPU is not being utilized.
(For this I recommend "Close Everything" you open it and hit close everything and if something is open that shouldn't be or what not it closes it. Also good for programs that don't force close on error or back key press.)
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HTC Weather - Turn of the automatic updates if you are using the weather widget from HTC. Possibly consider switching to another app/widget where you can set your update frequency.
App List > Weather > Menu > Settings
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Facebook and other Social Apps - Turn the update frequency down to an hour or more. FaceBook > Menu > Settings
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PRL Update - Your phone can struggle if you are in between towers or have a constant weak signal. As more towers are built or updated so should your PRL list be updated. Try to remember to update this once and a while incase something has changed in your local tower network.
Menu > Settings > About Phone > System Updates > Update PRL
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Disable Haptic Feedback on KB - This may be a smaller gainer but its still a gain. Disabling the vibration on every key press, especially if your a heavy text'r or tweeter.
Menu > Settings > Locale & Text > Touch Input > Text Input > Vibrate when Typing

The following tips will incur feature loss with the Hero


Disable Always on Mobile Network - This will make it so you have to manually update most of your widgets and applications.
Menu > Settings > Wireless controls > Mobile network settings
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Disable Background Data - This will disable all automatic sync of Gmail, Google contacts and calendars. If you do not use any of these, feel free to disable.
Menu > Settings > Data synchronization > Google > Background data


In addition to the above tips try charging your phone while its off for a much faster charge!

12/28/2009 Update : 3500mah battery availble for Hero
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bacy35hhrs-bk.htm

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cool, thanks.

how much of a power hog is the htc flipclock? I like that it shows the current weather with it, although if its a huge battery hog I wouldn't mind finding a replacement.
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cool, thanks.

how much of a power hog is the htc flipclock? I like that it shows the current weather with it, although if its a huge battery hog I wouldn't mind finding a replacement.
Theres an app in the market called "clock/weather widget" and its exactly the same app, only it requires you manually update your location every time you turn off your phone. But looks exactly the same.
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Location - Location Setting enabled but "Use Wireless Networks" disabled. When needed I toggle on my GPS. Also this will provide a much more accurate location for Google Maps and Sprint Nav.
Menu > Settings > Location
So "Use wireless networks" and "Enable GPS satellites" should be unchecked, leaving "Location Setting" the only thing that is checked? (I only turn on GPS when I need it).

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cool, thanks.

how much of a power hog is the htc flipclock? I like that it shows the current weather with it, although if its a huge battery hog I wouldn't mind finding a replacement.
Not sure how much of a power hog it is but I just realized the other day that having the clock set to "current location" might also hurt the life because it's always checking for the location. I just set it to my home town because I very rarely travel to a different time zone.
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Theres an app in the market called "clock/weather widget" and its exactly the same app, only it requires you manually update your location every time you turn off your phone. But looks exactly the same.
Does it seem to use less battery? Also, what exactly do you mean it requires you to update your location? It won't let you shut off the phone until you do? or it prompts you asking if you'd like to?

Does it give weather for one spot only, or does it follow you around like the current widget does? Also, who is the author of the app you talk of, I want to make sure I get the right one...
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So "Use wireless networks" and "Enable GPS satellites" should be unchecked, leaving "Location Setting" the only thing that is checked? (I only turn on GPS when I need it).

Yes.
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Why does everyone feel the need to have a weather widget that tells them what the weather is at your location? If your there already, cant you look outside and find out on your own?
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Why does everyone feel the need to have a weather widget that tells them what the weather is at your location? If your there already, cant you look outside and find out on your own?
I use the 1x1 weatherbug widget because I like to know what the temperature is outside in the morning for assessment of layers of clothing and proper jacket(I live in Wisconsin). Also when the season is proper I plan after work golf or snowmobiling with quick access to radar and forecasts from the widget.
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Does it seem to use less battery? Also, what exactly do you mean it requires you to update your location? It won't let you shut off the phone until you do? or it prompts you asking if you'd like to?

Does it give weather for one spot only, or does it follow you around like the current widget does? Also, who is the author of the app you talk of, I want to make sure I get the right one...
Its called weather widget by android apps. To update it asks you to enter either your zip code or city, every time you turn it off, or you can set it to update starting from 1 hr to every 24 hrs. I don't think it drains batt life at all imho.

And yep it will change locations depending on your travels. I know it changes between my job and home. Its free also.
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How do we "Close everything" when an app is running and we are not using it ?
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So "Use wireless networks" and "Enable GPS satellites" should be unchecked, leaving "Location Setting" the only thing that is checked? (I only turn on GPS when I need it).



Not sure how much of a power hog it is but I just realized the other day that having the clock set to "current location" might also hurt the life because it's always checking for the location. I just set it to my home town because I very rarely travel to a different time zone.
So you set the clock/weather widget that came with the phone on your home town rather than location? I can't seem to set it to a hometown. How do you do that?
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Everyone talks about turning off GPS on the Hero and Moment. However, if you do that how does "Emergency Location" and/or "E911" service work?

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Everyone talks about turning off GPS on the Hero and Moment. However, if you do that how does "Emergency Location" and/or "E911" service work?

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Tony,

It would help if you actually open the location settings options and look at the three. Hero has three separate lines, "Use Wireless Networks", "Location Setting" and "Enable GPS Satellites".

Turn off the first and last. Now, REMOVE check from the second one and READ THE FRIGGIN MESSAGE.
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This thread is relevant to my interests

Any opinion on the twitter widget? I set it to update every 24 hours, I'm hoping that is sufficient.

I don't see that Facebook setting, is that for a Facebook app?
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Any opinion on the twitter widget? I set it to update every 24 hours, I'm hoping that is sufficient.

I don't see that Facebook setting, is that for a Facebook app?
acp, Swift was released in the Market and I have been testing it all day. Features and speed are unsurpassed. Set it to update every 5 minutes for testing purposes and has been easy on my battery. I'll let you know what I see for the next couple days.

Being a big Twitter user, this app rocks better than any other I've seen so far. Yes even Twitdroid, and it's free
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How do we "Close everything" when an app is running and we are not using it ?
Close Everything is a program freely downloadable from the market.

ACP - As far as the facebook setting, it is inside the official facebook for android app.
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Tony,

It would help if you actually open the location settings options and look at the three. Hero has three separate lines, "Use Wireless Networks", "Location Setting" and "Enable GPS Satellites".

Turn off the first and last. Now, REMOVE check from the second one and READ THE FRIGGIN MESSAGE.
Thanks for getting back to me TF1984. Of course it would help if I actually had a Hero or a Moment to test that on but I am currently using a Blackberry and have been watching the forums to determine which Android device I want to buy before I make the switch.

Your excellent and calm demeanor tells me it might be better to go with a Moment instead of a Hero as those users tend to be more polite and less dramatic when someone asks a question. They also don't appear to be so assuming either and ask additional questions to frame a question. However, since I don't have a unit yet I downloaded the PDF manual and could not find the "FRIGGIN MESSAGE" referenced anywhere in it. Perhaps it is a technical term only you understand and less trained people such as myself can only aspire to have in our vernacular some day. So, as you go to the podium to collect your employee of the year award for excellent customer service - Thanks again.

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Thanks for getting back to me TF1984. Of course it would help if I actually had a Hero or a Moment to test that on but I am currently using a Blackberry and have been watching the forums to determine which Android device I want to buy before I make the switch.

Your excellent and calm demeanor tells me it might be better to go with a Moment instead of a Hero as those users tend to be more polite and less dramatic when someone asks a question. They also don't appear to be so assuming either and ask additional questions to frame a question. However, since I don't have a unit yet I downloaded the PDF manual and could not find the "FRIGGIN MESSAGE" referenced anywhere in it. Perhaps it is a technical term only you understand and less trained people such as myself can only aspire to have in our vernacular some day. So, as you go to the podium to collect your employee of the year award for excellent customer service - Thanks again.

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LOL...i wouldnt base getting a different phone off of this tho....
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I wouldn't, it was a tongue and cheek comment!
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Automated Task Killers not so good - They run in the background closing out your tasks that you leave open. Two things here that contribute to the bad battery life. If you have to re-open everything from scratch all the time it uses more CPU time. Since android apps enter a pause state when you are not using them the CPU is not being utilized.
(For this I recommend "Close Everything" you open it and hit close everything and if something is open that shouldn't be or what not it closes it. Also good for programs that don't force close on error or back key press.)
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Nick,

I tried your advice yesterday and wanted to add one thought (in my experience). I wondered about the task killer battery drain possibility. I personally use Advanced Task Manager (paid). Gerenally I have it auto start, run all the time and Auto end every 30 mins, all apps except excluded list.

Seeing your post I wanted to try a day without, so I did. My battery life was cut by a third without the ATK running. I used my phone 50% less than normal as well. So IMO and experience, I would say that at least having the auto end running in background will save a substantial amount of battery life. For me at least.
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I tried your advice yesterday and wanted to add one thought (in my experience). I wondered about the task killer battery drain possibility. I personally use Advanced Task Manager (paid). Gerenally I have it auto start, run all the time and Auto end every 30 mins, all apps except excluded list.

Seeing your post I wanted to try a day without, so I did. My battery life was cut by a third without the ATK running. I used my phone 50% less than normal as well. So IMO and experience, I would say that at least having the auto end running in background will save a substantial amount of battery life. For me at least.
Excellent Test!
I do have a question for you though...

When you leave your applications to go to home screen or switch to a different app etc, what button do you press on your phone. Do you press the home button or do you use the back arrow.

It is my current understanding that if you use the back arrow the program closes and if you use the home button the program is left open.
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Excellent Test!
I do have a question for you though...

When you leave your applications to go to home screen or switch to a different app etc, what button do you press on your phone. Do you press the home button or do you use the back arrow.

It is my current understanding that if you use the back arrow the program closes and if you use the home button the program is left open.
I heard that too, I'm not sure I buy it.

With Dolphin I hold back and it exits and clears cache, but with most others I usually just hit home. But my Advanced Task Manager auto-ends apps every thirty mins. so it takes care of that for me. Plus I have a real addiction to tapping my ATK widget on home screen to force close the non-excluded apps.
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I heard that too, I'm not sure I buy it.

With Dolphin I hold back and it exits and clears cache, but with most others I usually just hit home. But my Advanced Task Manager auto-ends apps every thirty mins. so it takes care of that for me. Plus I have a real addiction to tapping my ATK widget on home screen to force close the non-excluded apps.
I buy it because i've tested it. If you open a bunch of crap and press home after you open each one go look in your task manager. Close it all then open a bunch of stuff and use back to get back to your home screen and see how much is still open.

My point is our difference in battery over the same time frame is the fact that I never use the home button. I always use back to close the apps. Then I run my "Close Everything" about 2-3 times a day for the other stuff that doesn't close when its done or has hung and not FC'd.
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I buy it because i've tested it. If you open a bunch of crap and press home after you open each one go look in your task manager. Close it all then open a bunch of stuff and use back to get back to your home screen and see how much is still open.

My point is our difference in battery over the same time frame is the fact that I never use the home button. I always use back to close the apps. Then I run my "Close Everything" about 2-3 times a day for the other stuff that doesn't close when its done or has hung and not FC'd.
Gotcha. I missed the point that you use back button instead of home button. That makes sense.

So using back DOES close the app? I have to remember that.
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As far as my tests conclude back = close app. I think the reason the dolphin browser has the hold back to exit feature is because browsing is one of the only applications where if you press back it doesn't exit the program on the first one or two presses if you've been browsing for 15-20 minutes you'd have like 30 pages to go through and that would be annoying. I use dolphin specifically for this feature
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As far as my tests conclude back = close app. I think the reason the dolphin browser has the hold back to exit feature is because browsing is one of the only applications where if you press back it doesn't exit the program on the first one or two presses if you've been browsing for 15-20 minutes you'd have like 30 pages to go through and that would be annoying. I use dolphin specifically for this feature
I believe you. somehow I missed that point when I first read your thread.

One question, I tried the back button with Gmail and it didn't close. Are you Holding back or pressing back?
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I believe you. somehow I missed that point when I first read your thread.

One question, I tried the back button with Gmail and it didn't close. Are you Holding back or pressing back?
Press the back button as many times as it takes to get back to one of your home screens, if your in a message you'd need to hit it twice.
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Excellent post Nick. I uninstalled ATK and set weather to not auto update based on GPS/location and have definitely noticed a huge difference today. Phone has been on 10 hours...radio and data on for 5. Had GPS on for 3. Some IMing, market, a phone call, decent use. At 83%. Very happy with that.

Apps I'm running that seem to be no problem - battery wise.

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I had no idea about that dolphin browser trick, thank you so freaking much

I was actually using the stock browser again because I like the way it looks in full screen mode, dolphin has a random orange bar at the top, it must be for branding, nonetheless I'm not going back, exit and clear cache is brilliant
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I did an exit-clear cache and according to applications > manage applications dolphin still had cache....weird
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LOL, well I guess I jinxed myself. I woke up this morning with battery at 85%. I had charged it 7 hours earlier. Radio was off except for 1 and half hours in which the wifi and voice was on but phone wasnt being used (except for a couple of emails coming in). WTF? Yesterday it went for 5 hours with a lot of usage before 85% battery? Don't get it. Then I checked the awake time and its been awake the ENTIRE time I was asleep even though airplane mode was on and the exact same apps were running and I hadn't installed any new apps yesterday and the phone was still up (hadn't powered off and on). I did install two games (mole miner and robo defense) but never opened and ran them yet.

I charged and restarted the phone thinking something was running and had screwed things up. Well, five minutes into powering up I am down to 95% and its been up the entire five minutes even though phone was just sitting there.

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LOL, well I guess I jinxed myself. I woke up this morning with battery at 85%. I had charged it 7 hours earlier. Radio was off except for 1 and half hours in which the wifi and voice was on but phone wasnt being used (except for a couple of emails coming in). WTF? Yesterday it went for 5 hours with a lot of usage before 85% battery? Don't get it. Then I checked the awake time and its been awake the ENTIRE time I was asleep even though airplane mode was on and the exact same apps were running and I hadn't installed any new apps yesterday and the phone was still up (hadn't powered off and on). I did install two games (mole miner and robo defense) but never opened and ran them yet.

I charged and restarted the phone thinking something was running and had screwed things up. Well, five minutes into powering up I am down to 95% and its been up the entire five minutes even though phone was just sitting there.

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Something is keeping your phone awake and thus eating the battery. You need to figure out what that might be. Sometimes programs hang on boot. Sometimes they hang after you try and exit.
I use "close everything" 1-3 times per day just make sure my processes are clear.
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For me the HTC Clock widget with built in weather was a major culprit. Even when I unclicked the auto weather update, it would still update my weather constantly.

Great list. The Wifi toggle is handy, I dont use Bluetooth, and GPS only runs when I run Google Maps or certain apps.

I went through and made most of my widgets not update or only update eevry 2 hours or so. Most of my social networks send notifications to my gmail anyway, so I was getting notified twice every time. For now Gmail is my main source of updates.
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So, I still do not get it. Is it more efficient to leave Gmail set to automatically update or , is it better to manually check it, in regards to power consumption? Also, what about my Excchange email? Right now I have that set to manual. Would setting it for every 4-8 hours really degrade my battery that much more? Please HELP !
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So, I still do not get it. Is it more efficient to leave Gmail set to automatically update or , is it better to manually check it, in regards to power consumption? Also, what about my Excchange email? Right now I have that set to manual. Would setting it for every 4-8 hours really degrade my battery that much more? Please HELP !

Follow-up question regarding mail/Gmail:

I had originally set up my Gmail acccount using the Gmail app, but I don't like the functionality as it's not as intuitive to delete, forward e-mails, etc. I decided to set up Gmail on the regular MAIL app and then turned off the Gmail "auto retrieve" and notification settings. Just noticed today that the Google sync setting for "MAIL" was still set to AUTOMATIC. I just turned it off and am testing if that helps my battery.


Here comes the question: What is better, from a battery perspective: Using the Gmail app or the Mail app? Is there a consensus on this?
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Follow-up question regarding mail/Gmail:

I had originally set up my Gmail acccount using the Gmail app, but I don't like the functionality as it's not as intuitive to delete, forward e-mails, etc. I decided to set up Gmail on the regular MAIL app and then turned off the Gmail "auto retrieve" and notification settings. Just noticed today that the Google sync setting for "MAIL" was still set to AUTOMATIC. I just turned it off and am testing if that helps my battery.


Here comes the question: What is better, from a battery perspective: Using the Gmail app or the Mail app? Is there a consensus on this?

Well, switched over to the stock Gmail app rather than the Mail app and after having my phone on for the past 3 hours texting and downloading a couple apps, my phone is stil at 90% charge! And it stayed at 100% charge for more than a few minutes. Usually once I pull it off the charger and then take my shower the phone is already down to 97% in just those 10 minutes. Now, it seems, the phone stayed at 100% for those first 10 minutes. I've never seen it do that!

I've also never seen 90% charge after 3 hours, even if I do NOTHING with my phone.


Huge improvement over something seemingly small. I can get used to the Gmail app. I kept my e-mail configured on the regular MAIL app, but just changed the sync setting to MANUALfor when I need it.
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ACP - As far as the facebook setting, it is inside the official facebook for android app.
Sorry for the question, but I have been looking and cannot seem to figue out how to access the "official facebook for android app" If I go into Settings > Social Networks > Menu > Account Settings > Facebook - the only options there are Update notifications automaticall every: x hours and Download notifications when roaming.

If I go to the Facebook Bookmark which came as a default bookmark installed on the HTC Hero and then go to Menu, it pulls up the browser menu with nothing that I can see specific to Facebook, like the "shake to update" that you mention

If I click to open the Facebook app, which I downloaded from the app store (it was at the top of the list based on popularity), it brings up a homescreen which shows News Feed, Friends, Photos, Take Photo, Profile & Notifications - If I go to Menu > Settings from this screen, I can set a Refresh interval based on time, but still do not see any setting to update on a shake. Finally, if I click on Notifications and then Menu, all I get is a refresh option. If I click on Profile and then Menu, I see the same thing.

Would really appreciate a little more detail on how to access this option as it sounds useful to me.

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So, I still do not get it. Is it more efficient to leave Gmail set to automatically update or , is it better to manually check it, in regards to power consumption? Also, what about my Excchange email? Right now I have that set to manual. Would setting it for every 4-8 hours really degrade my battery that much more? Please HELP !

Manual VS Automatic checking is always better for battery when you manually check. Having it at 4 - 8 hours would be pretty good on your battery though.
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Manual VS Automatic checking is always better for battery when you manually check. Having it at 4 - 8 hours would be pretty good on your battery though.

Well, this is where I am getting confused. Right now I have Auto-Sync disabled but have background data turned on so I can use the Market and other things. I have read conflicting reports about leaving Auto-Sync on and checking manually. Even checking manually and using my phone for about 20-40 minutes, checking email about 5 times/day and soem web browsing, my battery is almost dead around 9 PM. I still want to know why a "few" people report that they have everything turned On and get over 1 days use out of a single charge. I am on my 3rd Hero and while this one is definitly better than the first two, I still don't understand why my battery life seems to be decent one day and then sucks the next day, with the same usage, etc.
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Yes please, step by step on how to access the shake setting on the facebook app.
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Open facebook for android. Hit menu > Home > menu > Home > Menu > Settings > aww crap I think they took it out in the lastest version..

Refresh interval is still in this spot though.
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Using some of your tips I am getting 12-16 hours with moderate usage. I really never thought that was possible and I can't thank you enough
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This is a great thread, lots of good tips. I have had my phone about a week, and have yet to make it more than about 8 hours before getting the "plug it in now, ya moron" warning. I'm sure the first few days were because I was using the phone so much, trying out new apps and widgets, etc. Since then, I have adjusted my phone even more based on these recommendations (I was already doing a few of these things).

Today is my first day running with these tweaks, and so far I am very disapointed with the results. I took it off the charger this morning with a full charge. All I did was read an email, check a website and check a score on the Scoreboard app. I then closed those items and put the phone down. Within twenty minutes my battery was at 93%, within an hour it was at 89%! I close the apps I don't use with a task killer, and I am running the following widgets:
  • Scoreboard app
  • HTC People
  • HTC Stocks
  • Search (Android)
  • Weather (by Android)
I'm guessing the Scoreboard app is a hog, but I really like the functionality. It will be very disappointing if to get through the day I have to turn off widgets, which is one of the great customizable benefits of this phone over the iPhone...

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This is a great thread, lots of good tips. I have had my phone about a week, and have yet to make it more than about 8 hours before getting the "plug it in now, ya moron" warning. I'm sure the first few days were because I was using the phone so much, trying out new apps and widgets, etc. Since then, I have adjusted my phone even more based on these recommendations (I was already doing a few of these things).

Today is my first day running with these tweaks, and so far I am very disapointed with the results. I took it off the charger this morning with a full charge. All I did was read an email, check a website and check a score on the Scoreboard app. I then closed those items and put the phone down. Within twenty minutes my battery was at 93%, within an hour it was at 89%! I close the apps I don't use with a task killer, and I am running the following widgets:
  • Scoreboard app
  • HTC People
  • HTC Stocks
  • Search (Android)
  • Weather (by Android)
I'm guessing the Scoreboard app is a hog, but I really like the functionality. It will be very disappointing if to get through the day I have to turn off widgets, which is one of the great customizable benefits of this phone over the iPhone...

Any tips?
@Fear - There is a possibility one or multiple apps you're running is keeping your phone from "sleeping". In order to diagnose I suggest you do the following:

1. Open market, locate "Spare Parts" & Download
2. Open Spare Parts> Battery Information
3. you'll see two drop downs and a list of apps/services below. The "CPU" drop-down should be changed to "Partial Wake Usage" and the "since last unplugged" can change to whatever.

The top services and apps below are the ones keeping your phone from sleeping (partially). Note that there should be some apps there, but "android" should be on top. If you notice another app you have at the top, then you should delete it and find a replacement.

I am getting a FULL DAY of moderate to heavy usage, without running task killer and with many widgets and added apps. good luck.
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@Fear - There is a possibility one or multiple apps you're running is keeping your phone from "sleeping". In order to diagnose I suggest you do the following:

1. Open market, locate "Spare Parts" & Download
2. Open Spare Parts> Battery Information
3. you'll see two drop downs and a list of apps/services below. The "CPU" drop-down should be changed to "Partial Wake Usage" and the "since last unplugged" can change to whatever.

The top services and apps below are the ones keeping your phone from sleeping (partially). Note that there should be some apps there, but "android" should be on top. If you notice another app you have at the top, then you should delete it and find a replacement.

I am getting a FULL DAY of moderate to heavy usage, without running task killer and with many widgets and added apps. good luck.
Thanks for the tip... I did that and looking at the "total since last boot" all looks normal (last boot was this morning). But when I looked at it for "total in all time" it shows the Dialer as the far and away the heaviest user: over 50 hours in about a week's time. Perhaps something was hung with the Dialer... I assume that is just the phone itself?
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Hey everyone. I'm new to the Hero/Android platform coming over from a Blackberry 8830 that has served me well over the last 2 years with the exception of the low amount of internal memory and memory leaks that required a battery pull every couple of days (no biggie). I have to say that I love the functionality of the Hero and it's OS, but the battery time on this thing is ridiculous. I've done most of what is described above, and Yesterday with moderate use only got about 8 hours before it needed to be charged again. I've barely installed any applications so far, and just tried getting used to the phone itself. If a phone is made to run all kinds of applications, but you have to go in and turn off/"dumb down" everything, what is the point of having the phone? I had my BB 8830 for 2+ years with apps and GPS on all the time, and still with the same battery was only having to charge every couple of days, with a much smaller battery. I love the functionality of this phone, but what's the point if you have to constantly be monitoring everything that's installed and ensure that every setting is exactly right for optimal battery life and NOT performance, to not even get a half a day of minimal use?

There has to be more going on here, then all of these small things being changed, that are somewhat beneficial for some people and have barely any affect for others (myself included). I also don't like the fact of having to turn GPS on and off. What's the point. My 2+ year old and even older technology BB GPS didn't drain the battery, so why is the latest and greatest in modern phone technology and OS's having such an issue?

Has anyone contacted HTC or even Google support with these issues? Can we expect/hope that future OS updates will alleviate these battery problems? Or are we stuck having to worry more about battery life on a hourly/daily basis, then just having a phone and expecting it to work and not die on us in less than a day. It's nice that there are all these small and somewhat helpful workarounds that people have found, but has anyone pressed the questions as to why we should have to be doing this at all and putting up with it for what we pay for these phones and the service?

Someone please enlighten me, assure me, explain to me, if there is hope of these issues getting fixed with future OS updates, etc and if this phone is worth keeping if they are not. The technology and the functionality is great, but with less than a day’s battery life, and having to constantly worry "am I draining my battery by using this program or function?" what is the point of upgrading from more simple phones like Blackberries if you can’t even use the programs and functionality that the phone offers above other “lesser” platforms?
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Hey everyone. I'm new to the Hero/Android platform coming over from a Blackberry 8830 that has served me well over the last 2 years with the exception of the low amount of internal memory and memory leaks that required a battery pull every couple of days (no biggie). I have to say that I love the functionality of the Hero and it's OS, but the battery time on this thing is ridiculous. I've done most of what is described above, and Yesterday with moderate use only got about 8 hours before it needed to be charged again. I've barely installed any applications so far, and just tried getting used to the phone itself. If a phone is made to run all kinds of applications, but you have to go in and turn off/"dumb down" everything, what is the point of having the phone? I had my BB 8830 for 2+ years with apps and GPS on all the time, and still with the same battery was only having to charge every couple of days, with a much smaller battery. I love the functionality of this phone, but what's the point if you have to constantly be monitoring everything that's installed and ensure that every setting is exactly right for optimal battery life and NOT performance, to not even get a half a day of minimal use?

There has to be more going on here, then all of these small things being changed, that are somewhat beneficial for some people and have barely any affect for others (myself included). I also don't like the fact of having to turn GPS on and off. What's the point. My 2+ year old and even older technology BB GPS didn't drain the battery, so why is the latest and greatest in modern phone technology and OS's having such an issue?

Has anyone contacted HTC or even Google support with these issues? Can we expect/hope that future OS updates will alleviate these battery problems? Or are we stuck having to worry more about battery life on a hourly/daily basis, then just having a phone and expecting it to work and not die on us in less than a day. It's nice that there are all these small and somewhat helpful workarounds that people have found, but has anyone pressed the questions as to why we should have to be doing this at all and putting up with it for what we pay for these phones and the service?

Someone please enlighten me, assure me, explain to me, if there is hope of these issues getting fixed with future OS updates, etc and if this phone is worth keeping if they are not. The technology and the functionality is great, but with less than a day’s battery life, and having to constantly worry "am I draining my battery by using this program or function?" what is the point of upgrading from more simple phones like Blackberries if you can’t even use the programs and functionality that the phone offers above other “lesser” platforms?
8 hours and dead, you have to have a different issue going on. I could leave my wifi and gps on and guarantee i get 16 hours on a full charge.

have you installed the latest firmware?
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I'm not the only one that's getting that kind of battery life. From what I've been reading, its more people that have battery life issues than do not.

What is the latest build? I have gone to the update firmware section of the fun and run it everyday since I got the phone on Monday. It always says I have the latest build.
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I'm not the only one that's getting that kind of battery life. From what I've been reading, its more people that have battery life issues than do not.

What is the latest build? I have gone to the update firmware section of the fun and run it everyday since I got the phone on Monday. It always says I have the latest build.
Your software version should say 1.56.651.2
Menu > Settings > About Phone

Also what is your awake time %?
Menu > Settings > About Phone > Status
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