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Old January 15th, 2011, 03:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Check it out...I hope this isnt true but I know the OP and he has been dead on in the past....

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Hmmmmm.....

Hopefully that doesn't change until after we renew our contract. *fingers crossed*
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So if I renewed my contract by upgrading to the Evo Shift with the 69.99 plan before 4/1/11 would I be eligible for a full upgrade a year from now under the current premier program since the changes weren't in effect yet?
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So if I renewed my contract by upgrading to the Evo Shift with the 69.99 plan before 4/1/11 would I be eligible for a full upgrade a year from now under the current premier program since the changes weren't in effect yet?
Thats how things typically work, but I'm not sure if the Sprint Premier early upgrades are part of the actuall contract. Rather, just a perk for being a Sprint customer. Would be interested in finding out myself. That being said, I this is ONLY a rumor.
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Thats how things typically work, but I'm not sure if the Sprint Premier early upgrades are part of the actuall contract. Rather, just a perk for being a Sprint customer. Would be interested in finding out myself. That being said, I this is ONLY a rumor.
Ok I was just checking. I don't upgrade yearly so it wouldn't be a big deal for me but I love having the option too. I'm still not making any decisions until I get some specs on the upcoming phones.
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So if I renewed my contract by upgrading to the Evo Shift with the 69.99 plan before 4/1/11 would I be eligible for a full upgrade a year from now under the current premier program since the changes weren't in effect yet?
Nah, It is just a perk not part of the contract. Unfortuantely they can and have changed it and no grandfathering in.

You will lose the perk.
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So it looks like essentially if you've been a customer for 10 years, the phone upgrades don't change.
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So it looks like essentially if you've been a customer for 10 years, the phone upgrades don't change.
Thats how I read it, and a few other things would still qualify you for early upgrades.

*And thats IF any of this is even true.
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Old January 16th, 2011, 07:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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yeah.. with the statement of the 10yr clients.. that means.. no grandfathering for other current clients. that sucks.

although.. this is still a RUMOR!!!

might be part of Feb 7 announcement..
some good news to take away the sting of the bad
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Old January 16th, 2011, 10:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
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This doesn't even make sense. Unless sprint is taking away the 1 year upgrades from everyone who doesn't reach premier status at all.

I've only been with Sprint 6 years.. boo.
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Bah who cares. I've paid full price for phones while on contract, so no skin off my teeth. Sprint needs to make $$ and get back to making real profits.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 07:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Bah who cares. I've paid full price for phones while on contract, so no skin off my teeth. Sprint needs to make $$ and get back to making real profits.
And trying to squeeze people for another 75 bucks a year versus a better chance at locking then in for another full is hardly the way to do that.
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And trying to squeeze people for another 75 bucks a year versus a better chance at locking then in for another full is hardly the way to do that.
Where are you going to go? Sprint still has the best prices, so in the long run you're still saving money.

Only other option is to go prepay and you're still paying full price for a crappy phone, but at least you get a smaller monthly bill.
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Where are you going to go? Sprint still has the best prices, so in the long run you're still saving money.

Only other option is to go prepay and you're still paying full price for a crappy phone, but at least you get a smaller monthly bill.
actually since the 4g tax I'd be cheaper on verizon.
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I guess it only takes one carrier to make the change before everyone implements it. First Verizon now sprint.
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this is still rumors.. so..till it is confirmed.. dont stess about it
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actually since the 4g tax I'd be cheaper on verizon.
For unlimited talk, text, and voice? I don't think so.
But do post if you leave Sprint for Verizon.
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For unlimited talk, text, and voice? I don't think so.
But do post if you leave Sprint for Verizon.
Google voice.
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Google voice what? You were talking about verizion.
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SprintUsers.com - View Single Post - Premier Upgrade Changes 04/01/11

I called Sprint Executive services today...who confirmed the changes. I opened a ticket to have my account changed to the correct start date - I was a Sprint employee in 2001 and they have my account starting in 2007.

Now with April being a ways off maybe some restrictions could change. I would like the 10 year reduced down to 5 years personally.

I post this not to get Sprint users mad but to be informed as they have choices of changes coming the future. If I was out of contract and on the fence to going to Verizon maybe this information impacts my decisions

Personally I am staying with Sprint...not happy with the proposed changes but if my acct is corrected it wont affect me anyway...I have been with SPRINT 10 YEARS ..
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I called Sprint Executive services today...who confirmed the changes. I opened a ticket to have my account changed to the correct start date - I was a Sprint employee in 2001 and they have my account starting in 2007.

Now with April being a ways off maybe some restrictions could change. I would like the 10 year reduced down to 5 years personally.

I post this not to get Sprint users mad but to be informed as they have choices of changes coming the future. If I was out of contract and on the fence to going to Verizon maybe this information impacts my decisions.



Personally I am staying with Sprint...not happy with the proposed changes but if my acct is corrected it wont affect me anyway...I have been with SPRINT 10 YEARS ..
Where do you find out when your account was "opened" or not?

10 years to 5 years.. yeah for sure. In this market 5 Years is a long time to stay with anything. (Sadly, even a spouse it seems!)

And to the guy who doesn't know what goog voice is, if you combine goog voice with the my friends and family unlimited calling, you end up with unlimited calling, period.

https://www.google.com/voice

That being said, if Sprint does this, and doesn't allow me to upgrade, I will not hesitate to jump ship.
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Where do you find out when your account was "opened" or not?
You can call or do a live Chat on Sprint.com I just did a live Chat to check to see if my time with Nextel carried over once Sprint purchased them.
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I know what google voice is...good grief. The point was the plan with VZ is not less than the Sprint plan gvoice or no gvoice.

If you leave then that's your choice, who cares. Sprint has to make money or there wont be a Sprint for people to talk trash about.
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I know what google voice is...good grief. The point was the plan with VZ is not less than the Sprint plan gvoice or no gvoice.

If you leave then that's your choice, who cares. Sprint has to make money or there wont be a Sprint for people to talk trash about.
And MY point is, I can get the same service, as of RIGHT NOW, cheaper on VERIZON, with BETTER COVERAGE. So what's the incentive to stay with Sprint?
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Bottomline for Sprint and all carriers - more people are using smartphones regularly than any other mobile communication, productivity, and entertainment devices. That means more opportunities for profit. In Sprint's case, it's do the $10 surcharge which is exempt from discounts.

Sprint is still the value provider, and they didn't lose any ground now that other carriers have tiered data. It's possible to get "cheaper" on other carriers, but not cheaper given exact same plan features. I've heard people from other carriers say they like the service and coverage better than Sprint, but I've never heard or seen much boasting about getting great value and low prices from other carriers (except TMo).

As to the upgrade policy changes that all carriers are instituting now, I'm not surprised. Actually, I hope it turns into a situation where phone makers then stop making so many barely-different versions of phones. That will leave carriers competing on service, cost, and coverage far less dependent on having the one or two phones that someone really wants.

I don't care about the upgrade policy, but Sprint should be awfully careful about trying to imitate ATT & VZW. Those two are much more able to "impose" penalties and withstand churn. Another prolonged period of churn is precisely what Sprint's getting out of.

I also think these lack of upgrade plans will strongly make buyers consider buying phones at full price. So often the carriers have said subsidizing is the reason for the contracts. Let's see how they react to people saying they'd rather take the full-price hit upfront and prefer to go without a contract or with one less than the two year standard.
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And MY point is, I can get the same service, as of RIGHT NOW, cheaper on VERIZON, with BETTER COVERAGE. So what's the incentive to stay with Sprint?
You get to talk to cool people like us in the sprint forums..
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i beg to differ!
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Isn't 4/01 April's fool's day?
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Exactly, how many more pages does this need to go

The announcement is on the Sprint website..
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Dude it's been reported by a well known and trusted person on Sprintusers so chances of it being a joke is not likely.

This makes me look at T-mobile a lot more closely. On Sprint you can't have a smartphone without paying for it all.

On T-mobile you can have any phone you want, and only pay for services you want. My wife has been wanting Android for a long time but it didn't make sense for her to upgrade on Sprint. This might be the push we need to move her to T-mobile and get her an Android device. I already have T-mobile so I might be saying goodbye to Sprint in the future as well.

Carrier greed will doom Sprint. Sprint is not Verizon, and they can't afford to act like it.
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Dude it's been reported by a well known and trusted person on Sprintusers so chances of it being a joke is not likely.

This makes me look at T-mobile a lot more closely. On Sprint you can't have a smartphone without paying for it all.

On T-mobile you can have any phone you want, and only pay for services you want. My wife has been wanting Android for a long time but it didn't make sense for her to upgrade on Sprint. This might be the push we need to move her to T-mobile and get her an Android device. I already have T-mobile so I might be saying goodbye to Sprint in the future as well.

Carrier greed will doom Sprint. Sprint is not Verizon, and they can't afford to act like it.
Sadly, this is making me turn on Sprint.
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It's going to make me re-think my loyalty to Sprint.
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It's going to make me re-think my loyalty to Sprint.
Your next upgrade with Sprint is going to be a hard decision. You'll have to pay a $10 smartphone fee (even if you don't use a 4G device), and no more 12 months upgrades. I for one would be looking very hard at other carriers if I were you. These two changes alone could cause Sprint to lose its most "premier" customers.
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even so.. there will not be any carriers that will offer better. but it dont hurt to look.

the only constant in life.. is change!
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even so.. there will not be any carriers that will offer better. but it dont hurt to look.

the only constant in life.. is change!
T-mobile will look very compelling, especially if people want an Android phone but only use talk, or talk / text, and minimal data. T-mobile and other carriers allows people options to use any phone they want with any plan they want.

I was a stout defender of Sprint (see my previous posts here), but these recent changes are making Sprint a lot less appealing and compelling. Before it was a no brainer to stick with Sprint. Now that line is blurred and people may do better with other carriers.
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I think this is what they want. To keep from getting a new contract I might buy my next Sprint phone at full price if the numbers add up.

That's what Tmobile did and since their phones were crap I left. I use to only buy unlocked Sony phones "pre Android" at full price.

But why should Sprint continue to kill themselves with prices near prepaid plans when every other carrier is more. Besides that I think they might have lost their battle with ClearWire and have to back pay them $10 for every 4g phone.

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I expect Sprint to close the gap but stay just under ATT and VZW. As long as they're a little under and provide good coverage and decent phone options, they'll be fine. That said, Sprint's under tremendous pressure to be profitable. That means some values will be eliminated and new fees will come.

As to tiered data plans, I hope Sprint avoids them. If Sprint pushes the issue of data consumption cautiousness, they are much more likely to lose subscribers than ATT or VZW. Sprint's done a lot to bring people over so keeping them will be critical. I don't think tiered data is going to help even if it's lower priced tiered data.

Like I've said before, buffets don't make money on extreme eaters but they make enough of most eaters to remain almost as profitable as the average regular restaurant.
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Old January 18th, 2011, 02:10 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Where are you going to go? Sprint still has the best prices, so in the long run you're still saving money.

Only other option is to go prepay and you're still paying full price for a crappy phone, but at least you get a smaller monthly bill.
How long is that Mantra going to hold up. Till, sprint is 10 cents cheaper than Verizon? Sprint may include the most at $80.... but there are cheaper smartphone plans at ATT & Verizon.

In the last 7 months, Sprint has changed their plan for the worse... every 1-3 months

1) Charge a $10 Premium on top of their "Everything" Data Plan to EVO/Epic Users
2) Remove Corp discounts on Additional lines
3) Charge $10 Premium on top of their "Everything" Data plan to all smartphones. UH... WHATS THE POINT OF EVERYTHING DATA?
4) Remove the annual upgrade perk.

IMO, #4 will be the straw that broke the camels back.
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Old January 18th, 2011, 02:13 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Sprint's done a lot to bring people over so keeping them will be critical. I don't think tiered data is going to help even if it's lower priced tiered data
LOL, after 5 years of losing customers.... to the tune of about 10 million post paid, Sprint finally has 2 quarters of gains(to the tune of 500K postpaid).

What does Sprint do? Change all their plans, and nickle and dime their new "Simply Everything" Customers. Their last 2 quarters of gains, are filled customers who may have been enticed by the prospect of annual upgrades, and they will get screwed before their first chance to upgrade. Yay Sprint.

Have fun back in the dumps.
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Verizon officially kills off New Every Two upgrade discount program -- Engadget
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Dude it's been reported by a well known and trusted person on Sprintusers so chances of it being a joke is not likely.

This makes me look at T-mobile a lot more closely. On Sprint you can't have a smartphone without paying for it all.

On T-mobile you can have any phone you want, and only pay for services you want. My wife has been wanting Android for a long time but it didn't make sense for her to upgrade on Sprint. This might be the push we need to move her to T-mobile and get her an Android device. I already have T-mobile so I might be saying goodbye to Sprint in the future as well.

Carrier greed will doom Sprint. Sprint is not Verizon, and they can't afford to act like it.
So on T-Mobile you can get a smart phone and just pay for voice services??? Thats pretty cool if true..
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With Verizon's new every 2... you would pay $75 less than the Subsidized price. Now, You pay the subsidized price on on the phone@ two years.

With Sprint, you need the discount to get to a subsidized price after 1 year. Now, You pay the subsidized price on on the phone@ two years.

Either way, it WAS a better perk for Sprint. Now its the same for Sprint and Verizon. Now Verizon has a minimum smartphone plan of $55, whereas Sprints Minimum smartphone plan is $80.
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So on T-Mobile you can get a smart phone and just pay for voice services??? Thats pretty cool if true..
Yep Tmob doesn't care. Pop your sim card into a new phone and it's working. No data if you don't pay for it, but most times who cares.
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LOL, after 5 years of losing customers.... to the tune of about 10 million post paid, Sprint finally has 2 quarters of gains(to the tune of 500K postpaid).

What does Sprint do? Change all their plans, and nickle and dime their new "Simply Everything" Customers. Their last 2 quarters of gains, are filled customers who may have been enticed by the prospect of annual upgrades, and they will get screwed before their first chance to upgrade. Yay Sprint.

Have fun back in the dumps.
Not exactly all bad even if bad in general. I came from ATT because my coverage was terrible and ATT really lacked Android options until recently. I was never an annual upgrader because I tend to upgrade when there's something really worth it. I wouldn't upgrade for a faster processor unless it's significantly faster. A 1.2-1.5x processor isn't fast enough for me to jump Evo ship. Once it hits twice as fast, I look at whether the other specs have kept up too. There's always a bottleneck somewhere.

As to the carriers, I'll move from one to the next now that number portability is easy and to get the best value. Despite Sprint's recent announcements, I hardly see ATT & VZW as being better values.

LTE could make a difference, but it's too far off in standards and technology for that to be a factor before my next cycle.

What I really want is the ability to use my phone on any network, but that's not likely to happen with the current carrier structure. I'd be happy to pay the full cost as long if I could use my phone on any carrier. The carriers will always be just a little different though to make sure that's never a possibility for consumers.
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With Verizon's new every 2... you would pay $75 less than the Subsidized price. Now, You pay the subsidized price on on the phone@ two years.

With Sprint, you need the discount to get to a subsidized price after 1 year. Now, You pay the subsidized price on on the phone@ two years.

Either way, it WAS a better perk for Sprint. Now its the same for Sprint and Verizon. Now Verizon has a minimum smartphone plan of $55, whereas Sprints Minimum smartphone plan is $80.
I must say I could save $$ by switching to VZ.

Interesting I just did the numbers on VZ:
Basic Bill Price (Family Plan no unlimited text 700 voice unlimited Data).
Total Monthly Access Charges$129.97

Sprint:
Everything Data - 1500 Shared Anytime Minutes Included$129.99 Employee Discount Sprint 13%-$16.90

Total Due by January 16 $144.02
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I must say I could save $$ by switching to VZ.

Interesting I just did the numbers on VZ:
Basic Bill Price (Family Plan no unlimited text 700 voice unlimited Data).
Total Monthly Access Charges$129.97

Sprint:
Everything Data - 1500 Shared Anytime Minutes Included$129.99 Employee Discount Sprint 13%-$16.90

Total Due by January 16 $144.02
The total looks like with taxes and fees. If you add them into the VZW charges, it won't be less. Close, but not less. Also again it's not apples to apples. No unlimited text. Add that in from VZW too. Want VZW Navi - add that in too. Also have to compare the VZW 1400 plan for nearest minutes comparison.

If you sign up for VZW thinking you're going to get the same and pay less, it's not happening. It can't.

Now if you have a 4G phone, it's not even close. Evo 4G fee - $0. VZW $20/2GB.



It really isn't possible to do apples to apples and have VZW or ATT ever come out cheaper than Sprint.
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The total looks like with taxes and fees. If you add them into the VZW charges, it won't be less. Close, but not less. Also again it's not apples to apples. No unlimited text. Add that in from VZW too. Want VZW Navi - add that in too. Also have to compare the VZW 1400 plan for nearest minutes comparison.

If you sign up for VZW thinking you're going to get the same and pay less, it's not happening. It can't.

Now if you have a 4G phone, it's not even close. Evo 4G fee - $0. VZW $20/2GB.



It really isn't possible to do apples to apples and have VZW or ATT ever come out cheaper than Sprint.
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