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Old October 4th, 2011, 07:14 PM   #151 (permalink)
 
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I really don't even understand how they can say some of the stuff they say. "Improving on the innovative stainless steel external, dual-antenna design of iPhone 4, iPhone 4S is the first phone to intelligently switch between two antennas to send and receive."

Using two antennas to send and receive is a very old technology. MIMO, Multiple in multiple out, is on almost every wimax phone created.

Heck, next they will say they invented away to send and receive using the same antenna, something the current htc evo 3d can do.

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If Sprint paid $20 billion for this, they should be slapped.

But, they will probably sell a ton to the iSheep.

Though, if I knew nothing about smart phones and walked into a Sprint shop and the GSII/E4GT and iPhone4S were side by side, it would be a no-brainer.
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I would take that $20 billion number with a grain of salt. Keep in mind, the same reports that made that claim also said that Apple would be releasing an iPhone 4s AND an iPhone 5 today. So, so far, there is nothing here but rumors that haven't been made true (and one appears to be a fail). Since the iPhone 5 appears to be a myth, I'd bet the $20 billion dollars for iPhone's is too.
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This will absolutely SCREW up the network. It is a horrible decision by a horrible board of directors trying to save a sinking ship, that is not going to work by adding a phone that is a bandwidth HOG!!

Sprint network will crash within a month of starting it.

Absolutely the WORST business decision from a company that is already struggling to keep up. I am preparing to jump ship to AT&T once the carnage starts.

Sprint should be focusing on EXPANDING their current network to make it better. I would gladly pay another $10 a month for my EVO if they made a contract to guarantee that 4G will expand rapidly so I have a chance to be closer to a 4G network than 250 miles.
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...Sprint should be focusing on EXPANDING their current network to make it better...
They're working on that now, supposedly. Its called Network Vision. More to come Friday Oct. 7.
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This will absolutely SCREW up the network. It is a horrible decision by a horrible board of directors trying to save a sinking ship, that is not going to work by adding a phone that is a bandwidth HOG!!
Does the iPhone actually use more bandwidth than other smartphones? I'm seriously asking, I have no idea.

I have no problem with Sprint getting the iPhone. iPhone = more customers = more money to upgrade their network. Fine with me.
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Get a 4g phone and you wont care about iPhone impact to 3g.
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This will absolutely SCREW up the network. It is a horrible decision by a horrible board of directors trying to save a sinking ship, that is not going to work by adding a phone that is a bandwidth HOG!!

Sprint network will crash within a month of starting it.

Absolutely the WORST business decision from a company that is already struggling to keep up. I am preparing to jump ship to AT&T once the carnage starts.

Sprint should be focusing on EXPANDING their current network to make it better. I would gladly pay another $10 a month for my EVO if they made a contract to guarantee that 4G will expand rapidly so I have a chance to be closer to a 4G network than 250 miles.
Overreact much, lol? I don't think it will be nearly as bad as you are expecting. Now could they possibly cap data some years from now if the subscriber rates begin to juice up, maybe. That's some time off in the future though.
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This will absolutely SCREW up the network. It is a horrible decision by a horrible board of directors trying to save a sinking ship, that is not going to work by adding a phone that is a bandwidth HOG!!

Sprint network will crash within a month of starting it.

Absolutely the WORST business decision from a company that is already struggling to keep up. I am preparing to jump ship to AT&T once the carnage starts.

Sprint should be focusing on EXPANDING their current network to make it better. I would gladly pay another $10 a month for my EVO if they made a contract to guarantee that 4G will expand rapidly so I have a chance to be closer to a 4G network than 250 miles.
So if sprint sold an extra million photons that would be better than, adding the iphone because the iphone in your mind is more data hungry?
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Get a 4g phone and you wont care about iPhone impact to 3g.

That would make sense if 4G was more widespread. Maybe that person doesn't have 4G in their area.
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My theory is that the iPhone 4S was actually the iPhone 5 until Apple realized they were already way behind the curve again with quad core processors supposed to be hitting Android phones next quarter. Then they changed the name before releasing the phone so they didn't look as bad. This is just my theory though based on absolutely no evidence so take it as such.

Hopefully customers realize it is crap and don't buy it.
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I have had an Android for over a year starting with the I-1 and now the EVO 4g. I realy love the evo, but I am getting tired of the your phone is no longer connected, your phone is connected BLUETOOTH BS no help in sight...no fix.....HTC/Sprint cannot find anything to help fix it.
So maybee the I-Phone is not a bad way to get someone to fix the screwups with the Android OS...

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I have had an Android for over a year starting with the I-1 and now the EVO 4g. I realy love the evo, but I am getting tired of the your phone is no longer connected, your phone is connected BLUETOOTH BS no help in sight...no fix.....HTC/Sprint cannot find anything to help fix it.
So maybee the I-Phone is not a bad way to get someone to fix the screwups with the Android OS...

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This sounds like an isolated issue. I used the EVO 4G for 15 months and Never had this problem, nor have I heard of anyone with this problem. I'd try a factory data reset.
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I have had an Android for over a year starting with the I-1 and now the EVO 4g. I realy love the evo, but I am getting tired of the your phone is no longer connected, your phone is connected BLUETOOTH BS no help in sight...no fix.....HTC/Sprint cannot find anything to help fix it.
So maybee the I-Phone is not a bad way to get someone to fix the screwups with the Android OS...

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Screwups of Android OS? lmao

Have you even seen iOS 5 yet? Basically all the new features are copied right from Android. Except when the fruit does it, they call it "innovation."
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I'm not leaving. Android is better in EVERY possible way. The only improvements in iOS 5 are rip-offs from Android.

Stay away from the fruit.
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I might pick up one I need a 3rd phone for the kid
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Meh. I followed the whole "Let's Talk iPhone shindig yesterday; the iPhone was impressive, but not too impressive. Now, when they start sending out Ice Cream Sandwich OTA, that'll be impressive.
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I wouldn't be so harsh on the iP4S

Lets keep in mind, from a performance standpoint, the iP4S will be the most powerful smart phone in the world. Having a small screen detracts from this fact, but the iP4S will be able to chew up anything you throw at it without breaking a sweat.

The A5 and PowerVR SGX543MP2 is an utterly insane combo, even besting the incredible Exynos and Mali400.

It's not a bad phone by any means. And hopefully Sprint's network press conference tomorrow will alleviate any concerns about 3G speed.
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I wouldn't be so harsh on the iP4S

Lets keep in mind, from a performance standpoint, the iP4S will be the most powerful smart phone in the world. Having a small screen detracts from this fact, but the iP4S will be able to chew up anything you throw at it without breaking a sweat.

The A5 and PowerVR SGX543MP2 is an utterly insane combo, even besting the incredible Exynos and Mali400.

It's not a bad phone by any means. And hopefully Sprint's network press conference tomorrow will alleviate any concerns about 3G speed.

But all the restrictions of the iPhone make all that power worthless... The iPhone will always only be good for the apps and games
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But all the restrictions of the iPhone make all that power worthless... The iPhone will always only be good for the apps and games
User experience, apps, and games are a HUGE factor in what people choose to buy.

Also, the restrictions are over stated. I have never rooted any of my android phones, and I don't intend to. I want a phone that works out of the box. Thankfully my E4GT does, as did my Nexus S 4G
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User experience, apps, and games are a HUGE factor in what people choose to buy.

Also, the restrictions are over stated. I have never rooted any of my android phones, and I don't intend to. I want a phone that works out of the box. Thankfully my E4GT does, as did my Nexus S 4G

I never understood what's so great about the "user experience" of an iPhone. It's like being in the TouchWiz app drawer all the time and the one button navigation is very frustrating, and the customization of it is that of a "feature phone". By restrictions I didn't mean rooting, I meant how everything has to be done with itunes (which I don't use), restrictions of downloading files from the browser, the lack of apps to change look and feel of phone (i.e. Handcent, GO launcher, WidgetLocker). It's like having to wear an ugly uniform that everyone else is wearing
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I never understood what's so great about the "user experience" of an iPhone. It's like being in the TouchWiz app drawer all the time and the one button navigation is very frustrating, and the customization of it is that of a "feature phone". By restrictions I didn't mean rooting, I meant how everything has to be done with itunes (which I don't use), restrictions of downloading files from the browser, the lack of apps to change look and feel of phone (i.e. Handcent, GO launcher, WidgetLocker). It's like having to wear an ugly uniform that everyone else is wearing
Nothing is more important than user experience. This is what draws people to a device, creates an emotional attachment and makes people repeat customers. The Atrix for example. All of it's ballyhooed technical abilities and it sucks ass to use. Horrible UX. The Photon isn't any better.

Apple is probably the only company that understands the importance of UX.

90% of android devices feel like shit to use. I can't make it through 30 seconds with most android phones before I feel like vomiting. The Nexus S, and GS2 are the exceptions. Don't even get me started on honeycomb. HTC sorta gets it. Sense is just okay

My phone is my number 1 travel companion. I do everything on it. I use it more than a PC or my ASUS Transformer. The last thing I want to feel is dread when it comes out my pocket. User experience makes all the difference.
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Nothing is more important than user experience. This is what draws people to a device, creates an emotional attachment and makes people repeat customers. The Atrix for example. All of it's ballyhooed technical abilities and it sucks ass to use. Horrible UX. The Photon isn't any better.

Apple is probably the only company that understands the importance of UX.

90% of android devices feel like shit to use. I can't make it through 30 seconds with most android phones before I feel like vomiting. The Nexus S, and GS2 are the exceptions. Don't even get me started on honeycomb. HTC sorta gets it. Sense is just okay

My phone is my number 1 travel companion. I do everything on it. I use it more than a PC or my ASUS Transformer. The last thing I want to feel is dread when it comes out my pocket. User experience makes all the difference.

And with an iPhone you don't get user experience, you get whatever Apple wants you to experience which isn't really great at all (imo).
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This sounds like an isolated issue. I used the EVO 4G for 15 months and Never had this problem, nor have I heard of anyone with this problem. I'd try a factory data reset.
I have used 2 different Bluetooths, and this all began after the last upgrade. it did not happen before.

I will try the reset to see if that helps.

I posted about this problem here and on the evo forum got no help from anyone. This is the first indication of something to try

There is no way I would get rid of my EVO for this small problem just wish it would go away


reset worked so far. Thankx Ben
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I like TouchWiz and I'm so over rooting. I'm still on the fence about a 3rd phone being the iPhone.
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And with an iPhone you don't get user experience, you get whatever Apple wants you to experience which isn't really great at all (imo).
Tens of millions of iPhone users would disagree with you.

I love my Photon, and I love Android. I loved my Evo before that. Many things about Apple's products bug me, especially the damn "you must connect this to a computer" thing that plagued all version of iOS up until 5. But saying you don't get a user experience with an iThing is disingenuous. You most certainly do. It's just that for you and me, Android provides a better one. I've met enough people frustrated by Android to know it's not a one-size-fits-all OS. And that's good, because it means we'll continue to see improvement and innovation.
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I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone when I say this. There is a woman where I work who can barely turn her computer on. Very nice, sweet person, but seriously, if there is one little thing different from one day to the next she will contact desktop support. Which is fine because it is how that section of our department gets paid.

She got an EVO 4G not long ago and immediately started complaining because it was so haaaaard to use, etc. Her sister has an iPhone and when she found out Sprint is getting one she got excited because she said her sister's iPhone is so easy to use. much easier than the EVO 4G. So, I can understand why some people go for the iPhone. Everything is where it is supposed to be and there are no surprises. If there wasn't Android I would have one. Like I said before though, I like to tinker a lot so to get one now would just drive me crazy. It does what it does well and there is a market for it. More customers, regardless of device, means that Sprint's network will grow and that will benefit us all.
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I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone when I say this. There is a woman where I work who can barely turn her computer on. Very nice, sweet person, but seriously, if there is one little thing different from one day to the next she will contact desktop support. Which is fine because it is how that section of our department gets paid.

She got an EVO 4G not long ago and immediately started complaining because it was so haaaaard to use, etc. Her sister has an iPhone and when she found out Sprint is getting one she got excited because she said her sister's iPhone is so easy to use. much easier than the EVO 4G. So, I can understand why some people go for the iPhone. Everything is where it is supposed to be and there are no surprises. If there wasn't Android I would have one. Like I said before though, I like to tinker a lot so to get one now would just drive me crazy. It does what it does well and there is a market for it. More customers, regardless of device, means that Sprint's network will grow and that will benefit us all.
I agree with this 100%. I know a lot of people like that. My mom and dad for example, my dad just has a crappy flip phone and my mom has a evo shift. My mom would be way better suited for an iphone, because she really has no idea what her phone can do, no matter how much try and show her.

She still never uses any widgets and I don't think she truly takes advantage of android and I think she would be better off with a iphone. If you are going to do nothing to your phone, then I think the iphone is better.

To me I love android because of everything I can do to my phone, but a lot of people are not like that.
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So I broke down and got the iPhone 4s from sprint and so far I love it instill have my.connect and esteem and attain but I think I will stick with the iPhone I feel like a scum bag for trading Android for.give.me forum forgive me just could not.keep metro anymore cuz there's not 4g in Chicago so I get 1+ MB down and 600+ up so its about the same as metro 4g plus. I get a 35 % discount so my bill is 5 bucks less than metro well that's that

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Uh, okay.

What are you going to do with the devices?
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Old April 7th, 2012, 05:12 AM   #181 (permalink)
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Old April 7th, 2012, 05:13 AM   #182 (permalink)
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Uh, okay.

What are you going to do with the devices?
Keep them for the kids to used for Netflix and games

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nice! high five man. i got sprint too.





apparently it wont let me resize em :/
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Old April 7th, 2012, 06:08 AM   #184 (permalink)
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nice! high five man. i got sprint too.





apparently it wont let me resize em :/
Nice what phone

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epic 4g touch. they say its the best phone on sprint but meh, i think its honestly a bit overkill for android, it scores around 6k in atuntu
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epic 4g touch. they say its the best phone on sprint but meh, i think its honestly a bit overkill for android, it scores around 6k in atuntu
That was my second choice it is so big and pretty I just needed something different so that's what led me to the iphone


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Man there discounts with sprint are bull and wait for the taxes to
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are bull****?



granted thats my 200 dollar deposits being returned to me, but do you see my bill for 2 lines unl everything (except calling landlines,. i have only 1500 mins a month to call landlines monday-fri 7am-9pm)

plus the epic 4g touch (the best phone on sprint at this moment) is available for 50 bucks on amazon.com for new customers. i got mine for 320 new in box shipped 2 day off contract. my upgrade isnt for another year, but cause i called and cried about poor signal i have a free airvana which counts as another line, thus giving me a "free upgrade" so when sprint rolls out its 40mbps LTE this year (tampa will get it around september) ill have a nice new lte phone to get supa awesome speeds

and overall i pay about 125 a month for the two lines... which if im not mistaken metro just jumped its prices to 70 a month?
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are bull****?



granted thats my 200 dollar deposits being returned to me, but do you see my bill for 2 lines unl everything (except calling landlines,. i have only 1500 mins a month to call landlines monday-fri 7am-9pm)
So you pay 83 for two lines

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I was about to say you could donate the connect n attain to me for dev use.... But your kids come first.

You're gonna miss the freedom of android tho
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no.... my bill is to the far left. then i have my "credits" which means they still owe me 83 bucks. i have poor credit so i had to pay 100 dollars per line when i started with them. for a year of making my payments on time (or within a week of the bill) and i got them back
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no.... my bill is to the far left. then i have my "credits" which means they still owe me 83 bucks. i have poor credit so i had to pay 100 dollars per line when i started with them. for a year of making my payments on time (or within a week of the bill) and i got them back
That's nice I got lucky and had no deposit thank god I am liking the 4s though it's nice Chang uo

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Nice to hear If I were to switch to a phone on sprint I would have waited for the HTC Evo 4G LTE, but sprint network is meh in my area, the only services that work the best where I live is MetroPCS and Tmobile.
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nice! high five man. i got sprint too.





apparently it wont let me resize em :/
Sprint is a joke. I left sprint cause I got tired of them ****ing me. I then went to metro. Got pissed at metros data speeds so I went to T-Mobile

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pfft, you can clearly see your speed is 1/6th mine, and your on wifi... :P
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pfft, you can clearly see your speed is 1/6th mine, and your on wifi... :P
Wifi was turned back on before I took the picture. the only thing that sucks is the data throttling but I haven't come close to my cap.

my speed is hspa as hspa+ don't work on Cm7 for my device yet
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pfft, you can clearly see your speed is 1/6th mine, and your on wifi... :P
No am not on wifi nice try though
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No am not on wifi nice try though
Yes, yes you are. See that WiFi icon with full bars?

Try to locate the 3G icon.

Can't see it?

That's because 3G disconnects... when you're on WiFi.
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Yes, yes you are. See that WiFi icon with full bars?

Try to locate the 3G icon.

Can't see it?

That's because 3G disconnects... when you're on WiFi.
One is three g one wife look at status bar

No are you looking at same pics
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