so I have been hearing and seeing rumors about Sprint getting the iphone in Sept?! is this true or not? does anyone know if Sprint will ever get the iphone?
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so I have been hearing and seeing rumors about Sprint getting the iphone in Sept?! is this true or not? does anyone know if Sprint will ever get the iphone?
everything i read at this point is all speculation and rumor. nothing official has come out yet.
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I have always wanted an iphone but love Sprints plans and the amount they charge! I really like my evo though but dont know what to do with my next upgrade LOL I saw the motorola fonton or whatever and it looks pretty cool but I am not sure it matches up to the evo and I am not crazy about the looks of the evo 3d either lol. I am a sprint premiere member so I get a new phone yearly I just dont know which one to go for and want to wait to see if they really get the iphone! decisions decisions lol
I moved this to the Sprint Forums, like others have said everything is still just a rumor but I think there is a good chance it releases this year to Sprint.
I hope it does actually, always best to have competition.
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i dont know i think that the iphone is a little overrated in my opinion. my friend has one and i just do not like it. it felt small. i was not impressed by the retina display. i love my evo and its big ass screen. and i like sense better then ios4. but that is just my opinion. i want to check out what the photon is all about. the specs sounds amazing. my upgrade is due in nov. so i'm going to wait and see what comes out for the holiday season.
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so I have been hearing and seeing rumors about Sprint getting the iphone in Sept?! is this true or not? does anyone know if Sprint will ever get the iphone?
The iphone is terrible anyways. Why do you want it? You remind me of the iphone4 vs EVO 4G youtube video. lmao
you really think its terrible? maybe its just wanting what you dont have. I just always wanted one for some reason. I just dont know which phone after the evo 4g im not into the 3d one so mabye the motorola or the new samsung galaxy...
The iphone is terrible anyways. Why do you want it? You remind me of the iphone4 vs EVO 4G youtube video. lmao
I actually think the iphone is great, it does a lot of things great. I would recommend the iphone to a lot of people. Heck if Android wasn't around I would use it, but for me I like to customize my phones the way I like them.
Android suits me better, iphone suits others better. I think both are great, just depends on the person.
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Rather than hammer on the deficiencies of the iPhone vs the EVO (or other awesome Android phone), let me add this tidbit for the OP:
You say you like Sprint because of the plan pricing. Keep in mind that IF the iPhone ever does come to Sprint (imho, doubtful) - it won't have the great plan that Sprint offers with all of its other phones. You can blame Apple for this - they are VERY controlling over what gets charged and what options are available. For an example - check the plan pricing on the iPhone vs other phones on both ATT & Vz.
I actually think the iphone is great, it does a lot of things great. I would recommend the iphone to a lot of people. Heck if Android wasn't around I would use it, but for me I like to customize my phones the way I like them.
Android suits me better, iphone suits others better. I think both are great, just depends on the person.
Name one thing an iphone can do better than a higher-end Android phone.
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you really think its terrible? maybe its just wanting what you dont have. I just always wanted one for some reason. I just dont know which phone after the evo 4g im not into the 3d one so mabye the motorola or the new samsung galaxy...
You couldn't pay me to have an iphone. If you're not into 3D it's an amazing phone without it.
1) be used extensively all day without recharging, or
2) running any of the numerous high quality app that are not available in the android market but are available through ios.
My evo 3D is my second high end android phone and I like it a lot, but the Apple garden/prison has a lot of good points also. ( and some weak points)
to get back to the original post, I suspect that iphone will eventually come to sprint, but there's nothing official yet.
My EVO 3D goes all day without a charge. It has a higher capacity oem battery than the iphone 4 that is actually removable and even replacable with an extended battery.
What apps are so high quality on iOS that there is no high quality equivalent on the Android market?
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My EVO 3D goes all day without a charge. It has a higher capacity oem battery than the iphone 4 that is actually removable and even replacable with an extended battery.
What apps are so high quality on iOS that there is no high quality equivalent on the Android market?
you are correct about the removable battery but your experience of going all day without recharging is different then that of most users. Check in the evo3d or Evo 4 g forum for examples.
As for apps there are literally thousands of examples. Ones that are prominent for me include the games monopoly and civilization revolution, a wide variety of apps by national geographic, and most of my audubon nature guide books, though a few have made it onto android.
I am a fan of android, but the iphone has some advantages. There are thousands of threads of discussions on this so I will decline to discuss it further here.
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Imo besides the appstore, there's nothing significantly better in iOS than Android. Not only does Android do way more than iOS, it does way more for way less! I don't see myself every going to an iPhone.
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I hear it's coming in October. I would like to hear from some Verizon users how the battery life is on CDMA. I like the freedom of carrying extra batteries for my Epic that I would not have with an IPhone. I will stick with Android.
The point I made here already is that iphone is better for some and Android is clearly better for us here.
Yes I love Android and that is what I use. But there are tons of people out there that love the iphone. It is a lot easier to use by default, there are countless of older people/and young kids that can use an ipod/ipad/iphone. This is great for them, a lot of people don't like to tinker with their phones, they just want it to work for them.
There is nothing wrong with this, for people like that, the iphone is the way to go. Also generally the iphone gets better battery life, this is for a few reasons. It doesn't have true multitasking like Android. No widgets or live wallpapers either. So this helps it battery life. Also ios has a lot less lag than a lot of the android phones, with each update android is getting better, but there is so much more going on with it that it is acceptable to me and hardly noticeable nowadays.
I personally like widgets and live wallpapers. I love tinkering with my phone all the time. Clearly I am all for android.
But no should be saying the iphone is crap, it is a great device, just not my taste. Clearly us on androidforums are going to favor android for the most part.
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The iPhone is 4 year old technology that has been repackaged year after year.
Anyone who has need of a smartphone can figure out how to use most features of Android. People who are too old to figure out technology should stick to basic flip phones, not an iPhone. This is coming from someone with 4 years of wireless sales and 1 year of wireless repair technician.
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The iPhone is 4 year old technology that has been repackaged year after year.
Anyone who has need of a smartphone can figure out how to use most features of Android. People who are too old to figure out technology should stick to basic flip phones, not an iPhone. This is coming from someone with 4 years of wireless sales and 1 year of wireless repair technician.
That makes no sense, someone too old who cant figure out technology shouldn't use a smartphone? When said people can figure out an iphone, then let them. Why does this seem to bother you?
I understand you hate the iphone, but a lot of people like it. Whether you want to admit it or not, android is generally a lot more confusing to use than an iphone.
I don't understand why people want to bash other devices just because they don't like them.
I don't see this debate going any further. I guess we can just agree to disagree.
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That makes no sense, someone too old who cant figure out technology shouldn't use a smartphone? When said people can figure out an iphone, then let them. Why does this seem to bother you?
People who have the ability to learn and understand new technology, but are unfamiliar with both iOS and Android, can learn either equally as easily. Day-to-day functions are just as easy to do with Android as is with iOS. As you become more advanced, Android will unlock further capability.
Those who are just unable to learn new technology won't be able to operate either very well. I have seen this with hundreds of returned handsets. When you sell phones for several years you learn who will return what type of phone.
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I understand you hate the iphone, but a lot of people like it. Whether you want to admit it or not, android is generally a lot more confusing to use than an iphone.
I don't understand why people want to bash other devices just because they don't like them.
I don't see this debate going any further. I guess we can just agree to disagree.
The people who like the iPhone were most likely sucked in by the hype that surrounds it. This hype has for many years damaged carriers who don't carry the iPhone. Every damn report I've read about Sprint's recent stock market issues have mentioned it's lack of iPhone. This will lead to one of two things:
a.) Sprint will get the iPhone 5 and likely end up having to change it's pricing structure.
b.) The last national carrier to offer unlimited data and better pricing will be bought out or go bankrupt because they don't carry a device that is only popular because of the hype that was created 4 years ago when it was actually ahead of it's time.
People don't understand the negative control that the iPhone has over the rest of the wireless market.
a.) Sprint will get the iPhone 5 and likely end up having to change it's pricing structure.
b.) The last national carrier to offer unlimited data and better pricing will be bought out or go bankrupt because they don't carry a device that is only popular because of the hype that was created 4 years ago when it was actually ahead of it's time.
People don't understand the negative control that the iPhone has over the rest of the wireless market.
I see this everywhere...as a reason sprint should not get the iPhone
but answer me this, (as i am by no means a biz/marketing/pricing expert) but WHY would simply adding the iPhone force a carrier(eg Sprint) into changing their pricing structure?
Sprint has plenty of internet capable phones/smartphones already, so why would one extra smartphone cause the disappearance of the unlimited pricing structure that is in place now?? what is it about the iphone that would make users utilize more bandwidth per day than they already do on there EVO/Galaxy or {insert your favorite smartphone here}
I am not trying to be sarcastic, i just want to understand...
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I see this everywhere...as a reason sprint should not get the iPhone
but answer me this, (as i am by no means a biz/marketing/pricing expert) but WHY would simply adding the iPhone force a carrier(eg Sprint) into changing their pricing structure?
Sprint has plenty of internet capable phones/smartphones already, so why would one extra smartphone cause the disappearance of the unlimited pricing structure that is in place now?? what is it about the iphone that would make users utilize more bandwidth per day than they already do on there EVO/Galaxy or {insert your favorite smartphone here}
I am not trying to be sarcastic, i just want to understand...
shanty
Simple answer: Because Apple wants total control over every device they put on the market including pricing structure. Apple went to Verizon with the original iPhone first, but Verizon turned them down because they didn't like the control Apple wanted to have over their customers, so Apple went to AT&T. This is not good for the consumer and the more people that support the iFail, the more control over the entire market it will have.
If you ask me anyone who buys the iFail is ******ed. Not only are you supporting an over-bearing and controlling company, but the device's hardware and OS is behind in technology compared to other devices anyways....
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Simple answer: Because Apple wants total control over every device they put on the market including pricing structure. Apple went to Verizon with the original iPhone first, but Verizon turned them down because they didn't like the control Apple wanted to have over their customers, so Apple went to AT&T. This is not good for the consumer and the more people that support the iFail, the more control over the entire market it will have.
ok...but...why would apple want to limit the use of their device? or control the pricing structure or the carriers, what do they get out of it (other than control)...
from apple marketing...here is a "great" device, stream movies, be active with social media, share stuff, post on the net, talk on the phone (some at the same time as you surf) but only a little bit...huh?
seems that limiting device use would benefit the carrier, not the manufacutrer of the device...
please clarify...
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If you ask me anyone who buys the iFail is ******ed. Not only are you supporting an over-bearing and controlling company, but the device's hardware and OS is behind in technology compared to other devices anyways....
..a little off subject, no? lets not go there right now...stick to the question at hand please(tone: polite)
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apple knows that they have a particular large loyal market.... who will buy what ever Steve says or puts out.
this market is willing to pay higher prices for hardware and service.. even when there are issues (ie.. antenagate and att service)
so.. carriers would take a lower margin of return to keep that market on their side. that is how apple controls the carriers.. why the carriers put up with apple demands.
apple knows that they have a particular large loyal market.... who will buy what ever Steve says or puts out.
this market is willing to pay higher prices for hardware and service.. even when there are issues (ie.. antenagate and att service)
so.. carriers would take a lower margin of return to keep that market on their side. that is how apple controls the carriers.. why the carriers put up with apple demands.
all fine, but still doesnt answer why apple would want to limit the use of their device, as the answer to why having the iPhone would force sprint to stop unlimited service..
as all things that do with fashion... limiting creates want and desire.
limiting the product, not what the product can do, creates want and desire...limiting what it can do, or how much you can do with it, creates frustration, not desire...
so a fashion designer creates a one of a kind dress, puts it on a famous actress, every woman wants it, they make 500 repro's, price is sky high..it sells, but it comes with a contract that says you can only wear it for the first hour of your evening out...
thats how i am understanding what you are saying..maybe i am just missing some neurons(???)
so...still confused (tone=jokingly sarcastic, still polite)
I was talking about limiting access to the product to purchase ..
Not limiting product function (walled garden)
my original question was in response to hearing (essentially this statement over and over.. "if sprint gets the iPhone, say good-bye to unlimited access plans..."
why would getting the iPhone cause Sprint (or any carrier for that matter) to end unlimited service plans...
why would getting the iPhone cause Sprint (or any carrier for that matter) to end unlimited service plans...
Network congestion. They're basing that assumption that Sprint would kill unlimited data based on the hit AT&T's network took when the iPhone launched. That was crazy bad, yo.
Network congestion. They're basing that assumption that Sprint would kill unlimited data based on the hit AT&T's network took when the iPhone launched. That was crazy bad, yo.
thats a reasonable explanation
but would there be that big of a shift of users to Sprint??
I guess Sprint would woo non iphone users to switch or current iphone users on other carriers only by offering unlimited plans...why else would they leave?
and most Android users already on sprint would a> not likely switch, given what i read on here and b>if they did switch, not sure they'd use an iPhone any more than they do their EVO/Galaxy etc...
It's really Apple's desire to impose limitations on consumers as they have done for the last 30 years. Dan330 pretty much hit the nail right on the head.
I don't think Sprint will limit data usage as this is one of their few competitive advantages along with the monthly plan pricing. I think people use as much data with androids as they would with an iPhone. Apple forces carriers to give up more up front than other carriers when the iPhone is sold, and this is why Sprint waited so long. Sprint is getting hammered on subsidies as noted in their Q2 results. You may see sprint have a higher equipment price, but keep unlimited data the same. I may stay with Android unless the Sprint iPhone is a world phone (I think it will be CDMA only).
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I bet if Sprint does get the iPhone, you will see unlimited data (for the iPhone at least) go away because Sprint will figure that people will still buy the iPhone and more expensive plans on Sprint because they will still be cheaper than the other carriers.
Sprint figures people are willing to pay a premium for the iPhone, therefore will pay more for their plan too.
I have used iPhone / iPad 2, am not impressed at all. I was very impressed in 2007 / 2008. It is now 2011 and Apple has basically stood still on their technology in 4 years. The woeful notification system is finally being addressed in iOS 5...woohoo.
Android has leapfrogged over iPhone / iOS in technology / innovation, and delivers so much more for the value.
Maybe in 2009 and even early 2010 you could make the argument iPhone was better, but it's late 2011 now and there is no way anyone can argue the iPhone is better, at least not with a straight face.
There are still people who repeat the same tired arguments about iOS / iPhone from 2008/2009, but that time is quickly passing as more and more people are exposed to the superior technology that Android is.
Posted as an unbiased user of both Android and iOS devices, over many generations of both mobile platforms. I am no fanboy of either Android or iOS, but a fanboy of technology benefitting consumers. Right now Apple is not the consumer's friend.
I hear it's coming in October. I would like to hear from some Verizon users how the battery life is on CDMA. I like the freedom of carrying extra batteries for my Epic that I would not have with an IPhone. I will stick with Android.
I am an ex-Sprint customer, left Sprint when the Verizon iPhone 4 came out. While I really liked the Market Apps, I (my opinion) prefer the Apple APP Store over the ones available in Market. The only down side is that, except in rare instances, Apple's App Store won't refund your money.
The battery life on my 16GB iPhone was much better than the stock battery in my Sprint EVO 4G. The overall system on my iPhone seems more stable, and the iTunes interface provides excellent backup, should my phone die and I have to replace it.
Even though I prefer the iPhone, I have to admit that I sometimes miss using the EVO (or other Android) phone. I recently picked up the Verizon version of the LG Optimus S for less than $100, and now, using Verizon's web site, I can switch which phone is "active" on my account in the matter of a few seconds, no charge, no hassel, no human interface. Now, I have the best of both worlds...
I am an ex-Sprint customer, left Sprint when the Verizon iPhone 4 came out. While I really liked the Market Apps, I (my opinion) prefer the Apple APP Store over the ones available in Market. The only down side is that, except in rare instances, Apple's App Store won't refund your money.
The battery life on my 16GB iPhone was much better than the stock battery in my Sprint EVO 4G. The overall system on my iPhone seems more stable, and the iTunes interface provides excellent backup, should my phone die and I have to replace it.
Even though I prefer the iPhone, I have to admit that I sometimes miss using the EVO (or other Android) phone. I recently picked up the Verizon version of the LG Optimus S for less than $100, and now, using Verizon's web site, I can switch which phone is "active" on my account in the matter of a few seconds, no charge, no hassel, no human interface. Now, I have the best of both worlds...
Yep, battery life is certainly a big advantage for the iPhone. I think you will see the android manufacturers focus on battery life. They have made some good improvements in this years lineup from reviews i have seen of the EVO3d and Photon. Being able to carry a spare battery evens the playing field somewhat.
I noticed recently that Sprint also allows you to switch devices through the web, but I'm not sure how that works between platforms with some of the SOCS being different for blackberry etc. I've never tried it.
I cant wait. Android is so buggy, laggy and unpolished; the iPhone cant get to sprint soon enough.
My EVO 3D isn't buggy, laggy or unpolished feeling, nor was my Droid X before it. Enjoy your brand new phone that is already almost 2 years behind the curve.
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My EVO 3D isn't buggy, laggy or unpolished feeling, nor was my Droid X before it.
It is. When it takes time to load from the SD card, when the animation glitches, when the battery dies by 3pm...when the '3D' makes you want to punch yourself in the face, when it lags pulling up an application, when it lags pulling up emails, etc.
I have Android now, and I do enjoy some features, its just not a polished/finished product.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Android has more functionality, but the iPhone performs its feature-set with unparalleled quality.
Then, there is the apps. The QUALITY of apps for iPhone are so much better...facebook, for example.
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Honestly, I hope there is a different pricing structure for iPhone users. If sprint kept unlimited data for everybody, it would put the nail in the coffin on their data network in my area, which has been horrendous over the past six months.
iphone for sprint
over and over.. "if sprint gets the iPhone, say good-bye to unlimited access plans..."
