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Oh. *shrug* Just getting straight to the point and calling things how I see them.
Not at all . (If I had a bone to pick with someone, believe me: They'd know it .)
Hmmm... I guess just the Motorola brand. I guess it seems that Sprint's lacking, to me, because they don't have what I'm looking for, whereas VZ does.
Ah. Okay. Thanks for the info. Now that you mention it, I think I saw a complaint about this in another forum, related to either VZ or "AT&T."
I suppose it makes sense. Prevents a user from getting a subsidized phone, then taking it to Europe or some other GSM area, bailing on the contract and stiffing the provider that subsidized the purchase.
Does Sprint eventually, after some time, unlock the SIM? If not: I see no point in a world phone. A sticky or FAQ entry here might be handy.
Too bad you couldn't give me an iPhone... or an iAnything
It certainly does! Thanks for the enlightenment.
Some Moto phones are built a bit more robustly than many other phones. VZ' 'Droids, for example, have the Kevlar shells, Gorilla Glass fronts and, IIRC, titanium or high-strength aluminium internal frames. ISTR the Photon was built similarly?
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Haha!
I guess I just dont buy into the marketing hype. Gorilla glass for example is still glass (and not exclusive to moto)
It resists light scratches. It still cracks scratches shatters under the right circumstances ( it suprisingly doesnt take much)
My personal opinion so far....I have not seen anything personally that seems extra special about moto phones.
The kevlar is new...is that multi device or one specific
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Oh. *shrug* Just getting straight to the point and calling things how I see them.
Not at all . (If I had a bone to pick with someone, believe me: They'd know it .)
All good. Glad to hear that and thanks for clarifying.
Getting back to Sprint's offerings...yeah, I really hope they do start to step up the game. For me, it doesn't mean I'll leave because it's the only carrier that gets strong signal at my house, but I feel like they are moving in the right direction. This is the first year I've actually waited to use my upgrade in a long time.
All good. Glad to hear that and thanks for clarifying.
Getting back to Sprint's offerings...yeah, I really hope they do start to step up the game. For me, it doesn't mean I'll leave because it's the only carrier that gets strong signal at my house, but I feel like they are moving in the right direction. This is the first year I've actually waited to use my upgrade in a long time.
I'm with you there. My upgrade is burning a hole in my pocket. I want to use it but I'm waiting for the Note 2. Normally I'd get so bored with my phone that I'd get a new one almost every 6 months.
I'm with you there. My upgrade is burning a hole in my pocket. I want to use it but I'm waiting for the Note 2. Normally I'd get so bored with my phone that I'd get a new one almost every 6 months.
I certainly hope every carrier gets the Note 2, I mean just look at all the competition the Galaxy 3 got everyone. With the Note 2 and the LG Eclipse Sprint could have a strong lineup with decent budget phones coming out pretty soon. Throw in some Nexus devices and Christmas is coming ealy this year.
Lol...everyone has the same phones ..att sprint tmo..even verizon. Verizon has one line the others do not carry and I fail to see anything superior in the droid branded line.
Posts like this really confuse me
When is the last time Sprint had a good Moto phone? They have been as good as the other carriers with Samsung and HTC.
Also the 2 Nexus phones they have got (S and Galaxy), they have been way behind on getting them (6+ months after they are released) and then they don't get timely updates like the GSM Nexus phones.
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When is the last time Sprint had a good Moto phone? They have been as good as the other carriers with Samsung and HTC.
Also the 2 Nexus phones they have got (S and Galaxy), they have been way behind on getting them (6+ months after they are released) and then they don't get timely updates like the GSM Nexus phones.
As for the Nexus, unless Google puts the smack down and really does release several Nexus phones at once, I wouldn't expect to see a new one on Sprint until April/May of next year, holding with their release dates for the Nexus S 4G and the Galaxy Nexus.
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When is the last time Sprint had a good Moto phone? They have been as good as the other carriers with Samsung and HTC.
Also the 2 Nexus phones they have got (S and Galaxy), they have been way behind on getting them (6+ months after they are released) and then they don't get timely updates like the GSM Nexus phones.
Admiral? There was another as well.
As discussed earlier in the thread, moto and verizon have an exclusive agreement. Just as you do not see much from moto on tmobile or att...
Each device has a number of reasons for delay. There are agreements made,carrier bidding on first dibs and carrier specific changes (like led notification)
The S was delayed by choice I bet.. samsung was at a crossroads then (can you say instinct)
The Galaxy due to LTE
Sprint got the S3 weeks before anyone else.
Manufacturers are trying very hard to streamline the process
Updates...they are more in the hands of the manufacturer than what people believe
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Hmmm, so if T-Mobile just cancelled the Note 1 in favor of offering the Note 2 soon, I wonder how far behind the other carriers will be, considering LTE radio has to be added:
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Hmmm, so if T-Mobile just cancelled the Note 1 in favor of offering the Note 2 soon, I wonder how far behind the other carriers will be, considering LTE radio has to be added:
My guy gets his tomorrow. Release could be as soon as mid sept or as latevas 90 days. Really hoping to narrow it down thursday
Nice! Considering the Photon Q was August 19, it would seem fitting that the Note 2 or the LG Eclipse would be this month. Thing is, the LG Eclipse already passed through the FCC, but I hadn't seen any reports that the Note 2 has gone through the FCC already.
My last date prediction had the Cayenne being released this month, but the Eclipse could release at the same time (considering the Cayenne is a mid-range device). Any new phone rumors for Sprint?
I just hope that, by my Birthday (10/26), I'll be able to cross compare all the superphones and get myself a birthday present upgrade of a new phone!...LOL.
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As discussed earlier in the thread, moto and verizon have an exclusive agreement.
*hmph* Well, then, I'm out of the market. No decent Motorola on Sprint, nothing else Sprint has that interests me, and I'm not interested in paying $20 more per month for less from VZ.
Maybe I'll be back to look again in a few months.
Thanks to all of you for your help and information.
*hmph* Well, then, I'm out of the market. No decent Motorola on Sprint, nothing else Sprint has that interests me, and I'm not interested in paying $20 more per month for less from VZ.
Maybe I'll be back to look again in a few months.
Thanks to all of you for your help and information.
Jim
Just out of curiosity.. what's the obsession with Moto phones?
Verizon's exclusivity will just hamper Motorola's "growth" if they don't start offering high-end devices across all platforms.
Agree 100%.
This live event was a major disappointment. Three versions of a phone exclusive to Verizon. I really don't know why Google involved themselves, it could have been all Verizon reps with a token Moto rep and had the same impact.
Motorola, I am disappoint. I really thought we were going to see a hint of what the new post-acquisition Moto would look like.
This live event was a major disappointment. Three versions of a phone exclusive to Verizon. I really don't know why Google involved themselves, it could have been all Verizon reps with a token Moto rep and had the same impact.
Motorola, I am disappoint. I really thought we were going to see a hint of what the new post-acquisition Moto would look like.
Maybe that's it...Google aligning itself with Verizon exclusivity, like Apple did with the iPhone before?...LOL...Hopefully, they're not that dumb. I don't think the Google/Motorola guys should've made any comments about Verizon, even though it was a co-hosted event with Verizon.
Samsung did it right. Release a high end phone for ALL carriers.
Yup. Not only that, but they kept the carriers from having too much influence on branding so that the phone (for the most part) was universal across the different providers. Helped the SGS3 become the most popular device, over the iPhone.
Count of LTE Devices out of 15 Sprint announced they would have by the end of 2012:
7 Officially Released by 9/21
1 (LG Eclipse) Hit FCC on 8/10
1 (Cayenne) Hit FCC on 9/1
1 (ZTE Flash) leaked ad sporting LTE connectivity
1 phone projected for availability on Sprint (SG Note 2)
Looking over the dimensions of the Razr HD and Razr Maxx, the LG Eclipse should be a little shorter, but closer in width to the SGS 3. Last question is thickness, but if it is the same thickness as the Optimus G, that means it'll be almost the same thickness as the Razr HD (thicker by .05mm, which is negligable). Although, the thickness could be quite deceiving because that is usually measured off the thickest part of the phone and the Optimus G's styling looks like it's pretty consistently thick from the top to the bottom, where the Razr HD's thickest portion of the phone is only at the top of the phone.
Maybe that's it...Google aligning itself with Verizon exclusivity, like Apple did with the iPhone before?...LOL...Hopefully, they're not that dumb. I don't think the Google/Motorola guys should've made any comments about Verizon, even though it was a co-hosted event with Verizon.
Well, here's what they've accomplished wrt me: Between no Android world phone on Sprint any more, Googorola apparently having some kind of exclusivity deal with VZ, and VZ costing $20/mo. more--for less (2GB data cap): I certainly won't be buying anything Motorola. In fact: If I do anything in the near term, it'll probably be a GSM phone on T-Mobile or an iPhone 4s on Sprint. Since I want to stay with Sprint: The latter option is looking most likely.
Since, coincidentally, my one-year-old Android tablet is apparently already dying: If I go that latter route I'll certainly replace the tablet with an iPad. If those things happen: My wife will almost certainly follow when her 'droid tablet dies and it's time for her phone upgrade.
It's a funny old world. A week ago I would've never given the iStuff a 2nd look.
Well, here's what they've accomplished wrt me: Between no Android world phone on Sprint any more, Googorola apparently having some kind of exclusivity deal with VZ, and VZ costing $20/mo. more--for less (2GB data cap): I certainly won't be buying anything Motorola. In fact: If I do anything in the near term, it'll probably be a GSM phone on T-Mobile or an iPhone 4s on Sprint. Since I want to stay with Sprint: The latter option is looking most likely.
Since, coincidentally, my one-year-old Android tablet is apparently already dying: If I go that latter route I'll certainly replace the tablet with an iPad. If those things happen: My wife will almost certainly follow when her 'droid tablet dies and it's time for her phone upgrade.
It's a funny old world. A week ago I would've never given the iStuff a 2nd look.
Jim
If you're interested in buying an iPhone 4S off contract, I'm in the process of getting the one I sold back because the buyer "claimed" that it didn't power up, when I triple checked the phone prior to sending it. Nontheless, when I receive it back and I confirm that the buyer sent me back the exact phone I sent to him, I'll be having Apple repair it since it's still under the 1 year product warranty.
I personally would never buy Apple products for myself, but this was for a family member that insisted they wanted an iPhone only to end up hating it after 1 month of use and wanting to go back to Android (and this is a family member that isn't necessarily tech savvy at all).
Thanks, drexappeal, but I'll pass. I don't know how I'd like the iPhone, so outright buying one would be a risky move.
Jim
No worries. Assuming I don't get scammed (and eventually have to appeal the case), I just figured I'd offer to someone on the boards that I can trust, rather than selling to anybody on ebay.
I may end up just going through Amazon, since they seem to offer the most money back for "buy back" pricing.
If you're interested in buying an iPhone 4S off contract, I'm in the process of getting the one I sold back because the buyer "claimed" that it didn't power up, when I triple checked the phone prior to sending it. Nontheless, when I receive it back and I confirm that the buyer sent me back the exact phone I sent to him, I'll be having Apple repair it since it's still under the 1 year product warranty.
I personally would never buy Apple products for myself, but this was for a family member that insisted they wanted an iPhone only to end up hating it after 1 month of use and wanting to go back to Android (and this is a family member that isn't necessarily tech savvy at all).
if memory serves me ... you went through a lot of trouble to get that for him... what thread was that? maybe an update there. :P
if memory serves me ... you went through a lot of trouble to get that for him... what thread was that? maybe an update there. :P
what were his complaints?
LOL...First was the screen...too small (and that was coming from an Epic). Then, after 1 month, no physical keyboard (it's actually a female that always has long/painted nails, so full touch for typing was a nightmare), and lastly layout/navigation. The 1 button Apple function did not make sense to the person at all. Considering that family member didn't use that many apps, it was troublesome to her to have so many icons that meant absolutely nothing to her and that she wouldn't use. Even putting them into folders didn't make sense. She preferred one touch widgets on different homescreens, in order to gain access to the most important apps that she used. I knew she wouldn't like it, but oh well...iPhone re-sell value is really high, which is the one thing I like!...hahaha
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Looks like mid-September outside of the US, but October is still the projected release in the US, according to Qualcomm. Wow, that'll be 2 months since the phone passed through the FCC, if that holds true.
Looks like mid-September outside of the US, but October is still the projected release in the US, according to Qualcomm. Wow, that'll be 2 months since the phone passed through the FCC, if that holds true.
This is still what I am looking forward to. Hopefully the dimensions of the phone aren't too bad and it gets a good AOSP development community
I'm keeping an eye out for both the eclipse and the note 2. All indications are pointing to the eclipse being the US offering of the Optimus G. Dimensions from the fcc filing of the eclipse are extremely close to the optimus g. For whatever reason, the blogs talk more about the att fcc filing of the eclipse as the optimus g and i've only seen a handful of blogs talk about the sprint eclipse as the optimus g, even though the sprint version filed first and all the early leaked pics were the sprint version. Nontheless, I can't wait until the official announcement for both the eclipse and the note 2.
Lol...no worries. I'm just trying to get a grip on what my last upgrade will be used on. Just hope eclipse truly is optimus g, in sprint us flavor
-EDIT- Okay, so it looks like I was worried for nothing. Based on the model number, the Escape is ATT's answer to the Viper. Still waiting on an official release statement for the Eclipse! I'm really curious to see if the US version of the Optimus G ends up being spec'd equal to the overseas version.
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Hmmm, if it is LG's fault that the Note 2 didn't have a 13mp camera, then maybe that verifies the Eclipse will at least have the same camera as the Optimus G for sure?
For those waiting to see if the Optimus G is also the same as the Eclipse, that passed through the FCC last month, looks like 9/18 is being rumored as a speculated "announcement" date:
To give a little more perspective on how great the form factor could be on this phone, the Eclipse dimensions from the FCC measured shorter than the Razr Maxx HD and the specs on the Optimus G, while being a little wider. The thickness is still TBD on the Eclipse...And the screen for the Eclipse was rumored to be .03 smaller than the Optimus G, at 4.67...but still pretty good considering the overall dimensions are close to the Razr Maxx HD.
For me, it seems like the determining factors will be...Smaller overall form factor (Eclipse) vs. Bigger overall form factor (Note 2). Also, the tie-breaker would be if the Note 2 is offered in 64gb flavor on Sprint! No question, that's always been a big part of my personal needs, both work and personal.
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Another video...I hope the changes to the US variant of the Optimus G aren't that noticeable. It'd be a shame because the Korean Optimus G looks awesome:
Hmmm...It is hinting at ATT radios, but I wonder if Sprint is considering having a "true" successor to the Photon, but instead using the Intel processor, which is why the Photon Q was released first?
I've already set up my different tiers for phone choices within the next couple months (barring any extra surprises), but I'm still holding out hope that Sprint eventually offers top end Moto devices in the future, not just variants that don't quite live up to par.
Hmmm...It is hinting at ATT radios, but I wonder if Sprint is considering having a "true" successor to the Photon, ...
I hope so. Sprint currently has no device acceptable to me, VZW's plans are too expensive, I wouldn't have "AT&T" on a bet, and T-Mobile's coverage is unsuitable. So, even if I was ready to pull the trigger on a smart phone and data plan, I've nowhere to turn at this time.
Looks like maybe the market for expensive, fragile, glitchy phones on expensive data plans with undependable coverage and often sub-standard performance is saturated
If we were to go on the FCC leaks alone, assuming the Eclipse is the US variant, seems like it's slightly less tall and slightly wider than the Korean/International version of the Optimus G. Also, the rumors about the Eclipse had a slightly smaller screen at 4.67, rather than 4.7. I'm really curious to see how it looks at the event. I'm also curious to see if they'll show accessories they'll have for it, just like the Note 2 had on display.