EarlyMon

The non-removable battery is killer for some users, no getting around that.

I'll be interested to see if the trend continues or reverses.

I expect it to continue.

drexappeal

I didn't realize non-removable battery would bother me until I had to do a soft reset on my family members mopho q. That was annoying. Overall, I'm actually not against non-removable batteries as long as OEM's start following Motorola's lead ( razr maxx). If you're going with a non- removable battery form factor, at least put in a huge battery while keeping the phone slim. Consumers are hopefully not gullible enough to believe that a slim form factor can't be combined with a big battery.

The trend I absolutely detest is OEM's going with no sd card slot. That's something that I will not compromise on. Until a Network provider is completely hole proof, I don't want to hear that I can access the files from the cloud.

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EarlyMon

Get back to me on that cloud thing when I fly or take a train and always have a signal.

Plus, who doesn't want to use radio power and kill a battery just to listen to some tunes while on the go? smh.

No sd card means never having to say Airplane Mode again.

KOLIO

HTC was a strong candidate to be my next phone both in OCTOBER 2011 & 2012. Last year, the WEBTOP / LAPDOCK system w /the MOTOROLA PHOTON was the deciding factor.
This time around, as a warranty replacement via BEST BUY'S rapid exchange, I opted for the SGS III, solely for the removable battery.

Once my upgrade rolls around in JUNE 2013, HTC will definitely be on the short list of phones I'll be looking at, provided the network improvements roll out in my area by then,in which battery life will not be a factor(hopefully), one way or the other.

drexappeal

Yup...exactly, EM! I didn't even think about it in that regard, but that's an obvious point as well.

Or, maybe there'll be a point where they figure out how to make it easy for consumers to compress HD audio and video files (without degrading quality), so that they take up less than 1mb to store on their devices...hahaha...that'll be the day I don't complain about not being able to expand my storage space.

Tommydaniel

For as long as the Razr has been it out it really baffles my mind that other OEM's haven't taken the Razr approach to batteries. I was looking as the teardown just yesterday. It would be so simple to incorporate a super thin, but still large battery.

drexappeal

Right, Tommy? I mean, I've always purchased an extra battery, just to keep the thin form factor (as supposed to the bulky extended batteries), but once Motorola came out with the Razr Maxx last year, I kept wondering why OEM's continued to have the excuse that they wouldn't be able to keep a thin form factor...I just don't know how consumers would realistically buy that b.s. anymore. I certainly don't.

Tommydaniel

That's the other thing I don't get. Extended batteries. Why can't they "flow" out of the tiny spot where the original battery was so then it would still be thin, and not be a waste of space.

KOLIO

After this years crop of phones come & go, anyone care to speculate what lies ahead, in light of the majority stake in SPRINT being taken up by SOFTBANK?

drexappeal

Well, this is the news I was hoping for:
Google’s influence on Motorola’s hardware won’t be evident until late next year

I was always under the belief that it would take Google at least 1 full year (after formal acquisition) to turn Motorola around for the better. Many people were hemming and hawing about how Motorola's crop of phones were awful and how Google isn't turning things around. While, I believe that to be true in the short term, if Motorola is able to stay somewhat competitive until this time next year, I think that's when we (as consumers) will be able to see how Google's influence will play out. Until that time, I'll be happy giving Samsung a fair shake for the next 18 months (at least), but I'm looking forward to having many more options, especially with the new Clear-Spank or Spank-wire network!

Orion

You're preaching to choir dude. I just don't have the confidence to go with a phone without a removable battery. Maybe more like paranoid. Lol

Tommydaniel

If the Razr HD and HD MAXX were on Sprint I would be hard-pressed not to get it. Although camera quality is still something that seems a little iffy on Moto devices.

drexappeal

Sprint doesn't carry Huawei, but 6.1 incher does sound intriguing

Huawei Ascend Mate: We are bigger than Samsung Galaxy Note II. 6.1

I'd be shocked if they made that comfortable to hold in one hand though.

KOLIO

With the right screen protector, you could
mount this thing on your car door & use it as a side view mirror.......

twospirits

have a link for that teardown tommy?

I can't have a phone that does not have a removable battery, no matter how big or long lasting it may be. Which is why the HTC device was out of my list of devices back then.

And that brings me to this..

I see quite a few phones that will have more radios for much better world coverage. (Like dual sims). as well as longer battery life, and wireless charging.

but the one thing I would love to see is just make the system allow apps to go on the sdcard without having to hack the damn thing to death to do that. Or at the very least allow the option on a stock phone to swap the internal with the external memory. This way manufacturers don't have to make so many different versions of a device (16, 32, 64 etc) and just make one and let the buyer get the extra amount they need or want.

With Motorola, I lost favor with them, but they may win me back if google does do what drex says, but for now, Samsung is my brand.

So any idea what the last LTE device would be for Sprint. We still have Nov and Dec and that is alot of time just for one last device. I figure maybe two more.

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KOLIO

I wouldn't mind seeing the CLAMBOOK/PADFONE/LAPDOCK type of ecosystem re-visited/expanded upon.

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drexappeal

How sweet would it be to have the note 2 with a padfone like tablet dock and keyboard dock....talk about ideal!

EarlyMon

I should resist because I don't want to misinterpreted as snarky, but... Isn't the next step up from the Note2 in screen size a TV?

Sorry, but it's an honest question. With a screen that nice and big, wouldn't a nice Bluetooth keyboard and a stand do?? And/or with an HDMI connection??

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drexappeal

Lol... More portable than a TV. And docking station leaves bluetooth connection open for bluetooth s-pen connection.

NYCHitman1

Personally, I don't see the hype about the GNote 2. The size is ridiculous, imo. I have some quality sized mitts, but I wouldn't want a phone that big in them.

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EarlyMon

Better be able to connect more than one thing at a time with BT.

KOLIO

FWIW,I can successfully connect & use an ADESSO BT(2.0) mouse,MOTOROLA ELITE SLIVER BT(3.0) headset,& MOTOROLA BT(2.1) tablet keyboard to my XYBOARD 10.1 TABLET(BT2.1) simultaneously.

It was a bit tricky,having to re-pair the ADESSO BT mouse each time when using all three devices w/the tablet,but,it does work well.

drexappeal

I'm always sketchy about doing multiple bluetooth connections at one time, as I've never had any good luck doing it without having to go through a whole process to make sure both connections stick. I'm never opposed to it and I'm not as weary about bluetooth connection as I am with "cloud" access, but until any kind of wireless technology is flawless and quick...I prefer hardwire, if available.

twospirits

I figure this may be the best place to post this.

Over at seekalpha they state the following...
I see that coming down the pike for next year. More tablets. maybe um dare I say it, padphone like. That would surely blow the other two out of the water.

TS

EarlyMon

Ok, on that note (edit, ninja'd, pick a note, lol), here's what I want in all future Sprint phones -

An end to support threads where people can't get BT working right in their cars -

An end to support threads that this BT stack is better with this device, but not the one that used to work -

An end to support threads that this BT stack doesn't have the range as the last one -

And an end to tricky pairing.

Because BT is a standard and it's not that adult a puzzle to come through on what's advertised and to come through on reasonable expectations.

Either just say "headsets only marked as XYZ" or just get it right without all of the BT keywords on the spec page.

EarlyMon

Got what might be a tip that Verizon will have the new HTC locked down for 6 months. If true, that wouldn't impact the next regular Evo update.

And if a Nexus, that would be another model and I doubt Verizon could even sneeze if they wanted to.

Total rumor. Don't listen to me.

dan330

if a padphone hits spank... then I am concerned about unlimited data.

Spank will either want monthly access charge or data usage!
Tethering for $30/month
or
Data package (3GB) for $30.

in the case of a padphone.. it is the same device.. so no tethering.
will they look at data charges.. end of unlimited?

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PyroSporker

Yeah, this has got to stop, even if a network provider does magically become bulletproof I still want my external memory choice.
The benefit is in the OEM's hands though and they will act in their best interest before ours 9 out of 10 times. Alot of OEMs have been starting up "cloud" storage services or taking stake in current services with Dropbox like functionality it seems. It is in their own best interest to promote their own service rather than give users the option of buying a separate memory chip which they don't get a cut of. Or letting users sign up for FREE more generic services when they could be using a branded service tied to their phone. It's sad really.

This should go for all phones on all carriers really, but I know what you mean since most of us are on Sprint.
Isn't the Bluetooth stack selection and integration on the OEMs more-so than the carriers? I'm not letting the carriers off the hook since they are partially responsible for approving, specifically integrating, and supporting the phones and OEMs. Ultimately it is the OEM that decides the Bluetooth capabilities isn't it?

I could be wrong, but from what I thought I read, the Padfone 2 "tablet" case is simply a pass through. It will utilize the same network connection as the fone itself. There wouldn't be any tethering or extra network connecting needed. I'm not sure how they could justify extra charges, it would be a true disgrace. Arm and a leg tactics.

It is all a moot point anyways since ASUS doesn't have a CDMA Padfone and the chances of them rebuilding and producing an entirely new build seems so slim. (on the off chance they did jump off the deep end and do a new CDMA build they could at least add us a MicroSD card slot )

If I was in that situation I would try buy the fone and accessories unsubsidized through a different party and activate it on my line myself. And hope that the MEID/IEMI isn't flagged by the carrier for the arm and a leg data plan.

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twospirits

^ Correct.
Remember the Photon 4G. You could get the lapdock and Sprint did not charge you for the use of it as a plan add on. You just bought it and thats it. The pad phone is (to me) the same thing. An extension of the phone in a bigger screen. With the way that both Dan Hesse and Son (sounds like a sitcom) think, I wouldn't doubt seeing that device on the Now network. In fact it would make total sense. Cut the competition hard. They both are pioneers in bringing stuff that folks want. Cheap plans, and unlimited. I do not see that going away.

TS

drexappeal

That would be beautiful. I'd take one of the other upgrades on my account this summer, if they offered that phone on Sprint (although, I hate that they took away the microSD slot, so they'd have to modify it slightly to include that option).

KOLIO

The one other multi-docking phone system that would be great to have as an option is NEXPHONE. Haven't heard much about it recently, but, the idea is basically the same as PADFONE, but, would also plug into a desktop station.

Tommydaniel

It's for the Razr, but the idea is exactly the same. The MAXX's battery is just slightly thicker, Motorola Droid RAZR Teardown - iFixit

SoulSmilen

Potential bad news... I just went to Sprint newsroom and dug around press releases. Looking at the fact sheet for the GSIII, it lists both the 16 and 32gb versions. We all know they sold the 16gb in stores at release, and the 32gb was available as web order.
Sprint Newsroom | Galaxy S III Fact Sheet

The Note II fact sheet only mentions the 16gb version, so it looks like we're out of luck; at least for a long while, if not forever.

Sprint Newsroom | Samsung Galaxy Note

I think I'm going to go cry now.

ScandaLeX

I'm not. Unless someone can say definitively there will be a 32GB version at launch I'm not going to get myself all worked up about it. 16GB will just have to do.

nemesys06

Has there been any word on off-contract process for the note 2? I'm not extending my contract with Sprint, but i am buying the note 2 Thursday. And any knowledge of they are releasing only the 16gb model one of they will sell/offer the 32, 64gb models this week too?

nemesys06

Has there been any word on off-contract process for the note 2? I'm not extending my contract with Sprint, but i am buying the note 2 Thursday. And any knowledge of they are releasing only the 16gb model one of they will sell/offer the 32, 64gb models this week too?

twospirits

The previous posts dealing with what brought you to an android addiction have been moved to the new "What started your Sprint/Android addiction" thread.

You can continue those types of posts there.

Continue with the new phone rumors for Sprint here.

Thanks

TS

drexappeal

I know we're not there yet and the Note 2 hasn't even released, but I wonder if the flexible screens will allow Samsung to have bigger screen phones without adding size:

Samsung flexible AMOLED displays delayed, Galaxy Note 3 maybe » Phone Reviews

drexappeal

I honestly feel that the last of the 15 LTE devices is going to be a 3G/LTE enabled Nexus 7

Google to unveil 10-inch Nexus tablet, 3G Nexus 7, and Android 4.2 on Oct. 29 [RUMOR]

NYCHitman1

That would make me one really really sad person lol.

Tommydaniel

The Nexus 7 is rumored to be 3G and HSPA+, not LTE.

NYCHitman1

The same goes for the LG Nexus phone.

drexappeal

Thanks, Tommy. I guess that rules that out.

Tommydaniel

That's because they Nexus 4 that will be initially announced will be the one sold through the Play Store, and much like the Galaxy Nexus in the Play Store, it won't have LTE and will only be 16GB. Just a guess of course.

Orion

I really hope Google have some surprises in store at the event because so far that LG phone is not seeking my interest.

andyacecandy

I'm thinking multiple Nexii will be a surprise announcemnet

NYCHitman1

I actually hadn't considered that. In retrospect, carrier-specific models will likely come later (as per usual). That actually doesn't bother me all that much. My contract doesn't expire until June, but I'm more than willing to buy out the remainder now if something comes along that steals my attention.

Tommydaniel

I have actually been thinking about going "rogue" and doing the pre-paid route. But haven't decided yet. Tempted to get the Note II as well. Tempted by the Nexus 4, but not tempted enough. Nothing about it really excites me.

Tommydaniel

I would say the Nexus 10 with that crazy resolution would be a pretty big surprise.