twospirits

On that same Note (no pun intended), there was no reason to include such a huge home button that is raised. Most folio cases do not have a indentation in the cover for that button. So if one puts the Note in their pants pocket, the button can be pressed and thus turn on the display without you knowing it.
Then again, that happens regardless of folio cover if the pants are tight.



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PyroSporker

This is an interesting observation. It makes sense based on the technology used to enable the Note's stylus why it does not activate the capacitive hardware buttons. The Note's inductive stylus draws electrical energy from the grid under the screens glass. Other device's and third party generic capacitive stylus' acts as a pass through for our bodies own natural electrical field.

Like you are saying, what doesn't make sense is why Samsung didn't do anything differently to enhance the experience and make it uniformed. Like you mention one way would be to use on screen buttons. Another would be to use a different technology behind the stylus. Or use a different technology behind the ubiquitous hardware keys.

I'm extremely unfamiliar with Samsung's software and it shows. But I thought for sure they would have had a setting in the configuration to turn off the 'wake phone via home key' feature. For snug pockets and purses it is a no brainer. Samsung should update the settings for this reason alone.
You'd think after the Note, Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III, plus others, all with hardware home keys they have had ample time to provide it as an option.

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Orion

Being that the Note 3 is rumored to have a 5.8 in screen, it would be great to have on-screen buttons.

Orion

The latest GS4 rumors....

Samsung Galaxy S4 could feature ‘unbreakable’ display, launch as soon as April

drexappeal

So looks like there are certain standards that have been set for next year. I love the Note 2 way more than I even anticipated, but we should see the following bumps for the Note 3:

- 5.8 inch screen (hopefully with on-screen buttons that'll allow for the current form factor to stay the same or extremely close that nobody could realistically notice, while also being able to use the s-pen to interact with the soft keys)
- 1080p
- 12mp camera

Realistically, all of the changes that they'd make to this phone would have to be on the software side for it to really "wow" me. The hardware alone, for the Note 2 was enough to convince me to get 2 (Sprint and International). The Note 3 would have to be a huge jump (again) in order for me to consider it, since I'm not eligible for upgrade again until the summer of 2014 (seems so long away).

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Orion

Yeah, my next upgrade is on Feb 2014. lol But I might just spoil myself with either the GS4 or the Note 3 next year.

twospirits

Considering that Samsung sees the Note series as being the new flagship series (sorry S3, sorry Nexus) its easy to come up with specs that will blow everything out of the water and keep it as a flagship device.
(granted flagship is a term overused since most manufacturers come out with devices every few months and each one is labeled flagship)
but anyway..

My predictions are...
The 13mp camera that was suppose to be in the Note II will be in the Note III
Unbreakable glass (which is rumored to be in the S4)
2.0GHz Exynos 5450 quad-core (Cortex A15) processor (although I would love to see the 8-core big.LITTLE ARM, but thats for Note 4.)
1024x980 ClorOLED 358ppi density wiacom display
Dual Speaker
Dual Flash
32GB internal memory minimum
SD Card storage up to 128GB
Android 5.0

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mak916

I have the same date for my upgrade. My contract is up in June of the same year. I think I will wait to see what the GS5 or Note 4 will bring. lol. As for now I am happy with the way Samsung has been handling the updates with the GS3. We will soon have the Multi-View feature in 4.1.2 and other features. They are moving at a good pace.

mak916

This sounds good! I am really hoping that all phones will go to a 32GB internal memory minimum. What do you think about the RAM? Do you think they will go 3GB of RAM or maybe 4GB of RAM?

ScandaLeX

Every time I see 5.8" I think of that mysterious Galaxy Player that was supposed to be the new beast of the galaxy player line. What ever happened to it?

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NYCHitman1

I think they'll stick to the current standard of 2GB. A lot of phones are still stuck on less than 2GB, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to up it to 3 or 4.

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Rxpert83

The phones we have now don't need 2gb of ram. I'm not sure what the benefit if any of adding more would be

Rigmaster

I believe there's a Linux kernel upon which Android is based that facilitates multi-tasking. The extra gig of ram will enable better multi-tasking and is why project butter/JB/KLP and going forward Android versions will be able to operate with smoothness despite increasing complexity.

Just like on a PC, more ram won't show up under normal circumstances. But if you run multiple spreadsheet analytics and an intense program like Adobe's full image program, same-spec'd PCs with a higher ram usually have a smoother experience than lower ram. Both will run, but one will be a much better experience.

I question whether that's the case on most phones right now, but start dropping advanced color arrays on 1080p screens doing multitasking and that extra gig of ram will be very welcome indeed

mak916

This is what I understood the extra RAM was for in the GS3. I don't know that much how RAM works, but I think I understood what you said. Lol. Thanks.

ScandaLeX

Just like my desktop I prefer more ram for smoother operating of anything I want to do on it. I may not need it all the time but when I do it's there.

I believe going forward we will see 2gb ram become the standard. Yet can only hope 32gb becomes the storage minimum. Again, we may not need all that room but it's nice to know it's available to use if you did need it.

I'm not one of those people upset I can't store apps on SD cards.

NYCHitman1

That would be the Linux 3.x kernel

twospirits

My thoughts are that it will probably stay at 2GB ram, I don't think it will increase to 2.5 or 3 until Note 4.

But , you knew there was a but..
They may increase the ram if they
1-implement dual OS such as Android and Linux or Android and Tizen
2-Increase multiview capabilities that may bog down the system if it stayed at the current ram
3-for heavy use apps such as a possible Microsoft Office for Android on the way.

But that is only my opinion (or my wish)

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Tommydaniel

...1024X980????? missing a number? lol

twospirits

Look you, my crystal ball is not that clear. So yeah, its missing a number.

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dan330

you should change carriers

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twospirits

hmmm can't tell if you are making a joke or not.

either way, been there, done that (at least partially).

For my needs and my location, Sprint is the best carrier.
I Repeat, for my needs, so I am not saying for everyone else. Everyones' needs are different.

As for changing carriers (and not to take this too off topic)...



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EarlyMon

A check-back and thanks for those patient with me while looking for a phone for WifelyMon earlier.

Last week BestBuy had a one day free LTEvo for new and _upgrade_ customers.

She found the Note 2 too big, the Q keyboard too crowded. They didn't have the Mach on display and the extra glass on the G was out of the question.

So she went with the LTEvo, tried a bunch of keyboards, and likes the stock HTC one. It's bigger and the screen has enough real estate for her on that, so she's becoming very happy with glass typing. (Reminder, she always used a slider before, last one was the Sherman M1 Shift.)

Icing on the cake - Amazon had the blue Otterbox Defender for $22, $30 with express shipping, and she loves the color.

S-off and running Viper4G, she's not only happy, she found the setup that she likes better than her Shift.

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Rigmaster

No reason why makers can't have bumped phones up to 32GB by now so of these predictions, I'm not holding out for this one unless it becomes the new standard.

Problem is - people have been buying 16GB models of everything and makers are likely to see that they can just go with whatever the lowest/cheapest amount of memory is necessary.

The only thing that I believe will spur this into a better direction is if (and I don't expect this either) Apple decides to include external storage on iPhones.

EarlyMon

Storage scheme on iOS is different, that's why they offer different memory models.

My wife will be fine with her 10 GB built in sd card. I have a 64 GB card and already I'm beginning to wish I had 128.

The thing I hate about missing sd card slots is that it cuts into my motto that Android is all about choice. When you have to use a different model to get more storage, that's crazy.

I'd be using something else if the LTEvo had lacked a card slot. Crazy.

dan330

it was a joke about the crystal ball... not clear..
so get a new carrier for your crystal ball.

Rigmaster

Agreed, but I'm just pointing out that SS probably won't push the storage options to it's fullest potential because Apple doesn't do external SD cards. None of the other Android manufacturers even comes close to selling enough to threaten SS Android lead.

Woz is correct in stating that the iPhone weak points that matter most are it's lack of expandable memory and it's lack of screen size. Those are SS and other Android makers key opportunities, yet they still know they can get away with just offering screen enhancements and leaving the memory alone.

Eventually someone will break. I thought HTC would have by now.

Orion

While I agree that the Note 2 is the better phone, I think Samsung considers the S series the flagship phone for the mainstream consumer. But I'm with you on the Note series being the phone that blows everything out the water. Next year I'm going to pick between the GS4 or the Note 3. My dicision will all depend if I'm patient enough to wait for the next Note lol.

Orion

Speaking of the next Note. If this rumor turns out to be true then holy ish!!!!

6.3-inch Samsung Galaxy Note III rumored for 2013

NYCHitman1

That is just way too big. There's no reason for a phone to be that size.

dan330

it would be ok.. if the over-all size of phone does not change. i think 6" will fit just fine.

drexappeal

I agree. I can't see them making a comfortable to hold 6.3 inch device. No reason for them to put out a 7 inch Note tablet (which is already being tested), that I'm likely to get (since Best Buy's price match allowed me to have some gift card money to use towards), while also planning on making a 6.3 inch Note 3. Talk about overkill.

I think the only thing missing on the Note 2 is, they could switch the current bottom of the screen to on-screen buttons, rather than the soft key/hard home button. This would allow for better integration and use of the S-Pen. Even though I've gotten used to holding the S-Pen and hitting the home button, I'd prefer to just continuously use the S-Pen whenever I do use it. On-screen buttons would allow that to happen without issue.

dan330

^^^

take out the buttons.. and in screen real estate.. BAM.. 6.3"
AND reduce the over all size by a little bit...
bigger battery...
pull out bluetooth ear piece...

win win win

drexappeal

If they accomplish all that without increasing the size from the current Note 2, I'm all in for 1 more upgrade (I'll just use one of my family members' upgrades), but I have my doubts. In the meantime, I'll be set and content with the Note 2 until my next upgrade.

Orion

Yeah they are going to have to put on-screen buttons on that beast and reduce the bezel. I been playing with the Note 2 and I absolutely love it. The size doesnt bother me at all. If Samsung can just fit 6.3 but keep the same size of the Note 2, that would be awesome.

Tommydaniel

Would you say it's worth upgrading from the S3? I have been going back and forth since it was announced if I should bite the bullet or not..

drexappeal

When I first got it, I had already gotten a chance to get a feel for it to really know if it'd be too big for my tastes. I was borderline about it, especially with the Optimus G still yet to be "formally" announced for Sprint. Once it was announced and showed no microSD card slot, my mind was made up on getting the Note 2. At that time, I figured I'd deal with any adjustment I'd have with the bigger phone.

After almost 1 month owning this bad boy, I'm completely content with the size. After the first 2 weeks, I thought that I'd run into the same feelings some reviews have had that it got cumbersome after a long time of using the phone, but my feelings were exactly the opposite. The battery life alone was worth the change/adjustments I needed to make, but the actual handling of the phone (even one handed) was fine, once I perfected how I handle the phone using one hand. Keep in mind, I don't have the biggest hands either, so while there are some functions I absolutely must use 2 hands, the few one handed tasks that I've always been able to do on past phones were just as easy on the Note 2 (especially with all the compatible 1 handed settings available...for me, the 1-handed text keyboard has been the biggest win of all of them).

Really tough call, Tommy. Considering the S4 is right around the corner, I'd say it'd be better to wait...unless, you feel that the S-Pen would be a huge factor for you. For me, the S-Pen was definitely the X-Factor and I use it quite a 'bit for work and personal business tasks. I love the responsiveness of the new S-Pen, which truly has been all it was hyped up to (for me). I used to have the HTC Flyer and hated using the Stylus. I bought the HTC Stylus thinking it'd be perfect for notes, but it was awful at picking up my handwriting (and didn't allow as many functions as the S-pen has provides me with) and I have awful handwriting. The Waicom Digitizer technology that they put in the S-pen makes a world of difference.

Orion

It's a tough call like drex says. If I had the S3, I would just stick to it. Unless the S-Pen capabilities really wows you and you have the money to spend. Its very tempting. Like I said, I been playing with the phone and I feel like buying it lol. I'm just going to wait for the next go around....GS4 or Note 3 possibily.

ScandaLeX

I was >< close to getting the S3 until I heard rumors of the Note 2. That threw all thoughts of the S3 right out the window. I'm not gonna front though- had I gotten the S3 first I would've still gotten the Note 2 mainly for the size increase and yes...The S-pen.
I loved the stylus from back in the day and this comeback is awesome.

twospirits

Guys, I don't think that the rumour of a 6.3 inch display is for the Note 3, but rather a inbetween device. We currently have the Note 5.5 (Current Note) and the Note 10.1 (Tablet)

Most likely it would be to compete with the ipad mini and i do not think it will stay at 6.3 but rather a 7.

its way too early for these rumours anyway, (LET ME ENJOY MY CURRENT NOTE SIZE) lol

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Orion

Haha understandable. The same thing may happen with me with the upcoming S4. It would be hard for me to get it knowing the fact the Note 3 will be looming on the horizon.

ScandaLeX

I plan to stay with the Note line indefinitely.

Orion

Yeah its just a rumor but its fun to ponder the possibilities. I don't think it will be that big either but who knows.

Orion

After playing with it, I would have to tend to agree. Using that big screen makes it hard go any smaller.

ScandaLeX

Rumors are fun until they stop being fun.
Eventually you want facts.

Orion

Exactly! Very well put.

dan330

new lovers are fun until they stop being fun.
eventually you want a new lover.






sorry.. i had too.. couldnt stop myself.. :P

ScandaLeX

I thought before you needed help.
I'm now convinced.

mak916

I plan on checking out a Note on my next upgrade. I plan on going with the Galaxy S line or move to the Note line. At this point I don't see myself moving away from Samsung. At this time last year if someone would have told me I would be going with Samsung I would have laughed at them. Now I find myself recommending them to everyone.

Orion

I'm with you on that assessment. Samsung is doing great things.

mak916

I can't wait to see what they come up with next.