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Location, size, type, bid...many factors. In this case, I'd say LG paid more, since it's in Time Square.

Funny thing is, I don't know if it was the greatest strategy. The billboard looks way too similar to the official S4 billboards, so people might just look at the big number 4 and wonder why the heck there are 4 different ads promoting the same product...so, it might have the counter effect of driving people to wait for the S4.

If I were LG, especially considering they'll be updating the Optimus G later in the year, I would've asked all of the US providers to do a limited time price drop and instead of the tagline, "LG Optimus G is here 4 you now", I would have doubled it up:

"LG Optimus G is here 4 you 4 Free NOW"

That might have drawn some people to swoop up some Optimus G's instead of waiting for the S4 in a month.
Funny you mentioned the fact that the LG billboards looked like the Samsung billboards. I had to look twice at the pictures to really see the difference.

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OMG! If Motorola manages to accomlish this, as the rumors are saying, I think that's definitely #Winning

Motorola X to be a flagship brand with customizable hardware [RUMOR]

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I think this is what most here have wanted all along.If it pans out to be true,it could be a game changer.

But,in light of recent news of even more staff reductions @ MOTOROLA,I doubt the depth of the a la carte model is gonna run very deep.Most likely limited to memory/color options,perhaps a QWERTY & size option as well.Not much different than what we have today,including the "promise"of one upgrade during the life cycle (read:not NEXUS).

More than likely,this "rumor" was started by MOTOROLA to attempt what the others did yesterday,steal some of SAMSUNGS' thunder & hold potential customers @ bay until they get their phone to market.

I do hope someone can deliver on this model,but,I'm not waiting around for it,as no matter what comes out,something is ALWAYS left on the table,keeping us coming back for more next time.

If BURGER KING can do it,so can the phone manufacturers:

Burger King Have it Your Way 1974 Commercial - YouTube

Sorry,I couldn't resist,in light of last night's SGS IV event.
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Motorola X to be a flagship brand with customizable hardware [RUMOR]
And yet, a few weeks ago a Google exec downplayed their upcoming offerings.

Wish I knew who to believe.
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OMG! the same source If Motorola manages to accomlish this, as the rumors are saying, I think that's definitely #Winning

Motorola X to be a flagship brand with customizable hardware [RUMOR]

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Just a follow-up to this from the same source :

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And perhaps Google is joining the fun in slagging -

From https://twitter.com/timbray/status/312366189840052225

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That product launch was inexcusable. It’ll be a cold day in hell before I buy a product from those idiots.
So - everyone's pulling off the gloves.

Put that together with sudden Motorola X rumors and what do you get?
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And perhaps Google is joining the fun in slagging -

From https://twitter.com/timbray/status/312366189840052225



So - everyone's pulling off the gloves.

Put that together with sudden Motorola X rumors and what do you get?

Can you say WWE?

Just one question:

Who's the puppeteer?
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I think this is what most here have wanted all along.If it pans out to be true,it could be a game changer.

But,in light of recent news of even more staff reductions @ MOTOROLA,I doubt the depth of the a la carte model is gonna run very deep.Most likely limited to memory/color options,perhaps a QWERTY & size option as well.Not much different than what we have today,including the "promise"of one upgrade during the life cycle (read:not NEXUS).

More than likely,this "rumor" was started by MOTOROLA to attempt what the others did yesterday,steal some of SAMSUNGS' thunder & hold potential customers @ bay until they get their phone to market.

I do hope someone can deliver on this model,but,I'm not waiting around for it,as no matter what comes out,something is ALWAYS left on the table,keeping us coming back for more next time.

If BURGER KING can do it,so can the phone manufacturers:

Burger King Have it Your Way 1974 Commercial - YouTube

Sorry,I couldn't resist,in light of last night's SGS IV event.
Remember what I told you, bro? At minimum 1 year from when the merger was finalized and they could right the ship. An "a-la-cart" phone, even if the different selections are somewhat limited, would be a game changer for sure and definitely a move in the right direction. That said, I'd still give it a whole year to see how it sells and performs, prior to saying that type of offering will do well. Price point is still a factor, as well as usability on CDMA providers.

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And yet, a few weeks ago a Google exec downplayed their upcoming offerings.

Wish I knew who to believe.
Yup...it's hard to not get caught up in the rumors, especially when the rumors are "game changing." I'm SO glad that I've been extremely happy with the Note 2 because the X phone rumors have been the most intriguing out of all the rumors I've heard, including the ones about the Note 3.

The only other rumor that would make me just as curious as this "a-la-cart" x phone rumor, would be flexible screen to make a "true" phone/tablet w/ HD output....that would trump the "a-la-cart" for me.
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And perhaps Google is joining the fun in slagging -

From https://twitter.com/timbray/status/312366189840052225
But if he's with Google PR, why would you make that type of statement against a device that is using the Android OS?

Maybe there is some truth to the speculation that Samsung will eventually move away from Android? If so, I guess the Note 8 will be my last Samsung device...LOL.
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I read up on that yesterday in fact. I didn't bother to post it because it was just too good to be true. Lol
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It's called saber rattling.

I'll give you long odds that something happened behind closed doors.

And I doubt that Samsung will move away from Android. Inventing a winning phone OS is hard. Ask Apple, RIM, MS and Nokia. Samsung software? C'mon, seriously not great. TouchWiz is ok, but after that - no no no.

Rather than move away from Android, if I had to bet, I'd bet that Samsung tried to threaten them that they might, to win some concession or the other.

Remember the history - it's important. The day that Google said they were buying Motorola, Samsung came out in Korea and said, don't worry workers, we'll never trust a foreign power and their stock shot up.

Then Google said, don't worry, we won't hold Android back from you when we buy Motorola (as if they ever would except in some deranged fantasy) - and Samsung announced, ta da, we really put it to Google. And the home crowd cheered.

That actually happened already.

Motorola was going under. If they did, we'd have lost our only domestic Android producer of phones. Google couldn't afford that, they couldn't afford to not buy them.

Ever since, we've been hearing that Samsung could be the injured party, Samsung needs to go to their own os, Samsung is going to their os. Baloney sausage.

Maybe someday - but not anytime soon.

Meanwhile on that year by year thing - the Google CFO said that they needed to clear an 18 month pipeline before doing their own thing. If true, and if we count from when when the deal started, that puts us out at November to see anything.
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Which conveniently lines up with Nexus phone season
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It's called saber rattling.

I'll give you long odds that something happened behind closed doors.

And I doubt that Samsung will move away from Android. Inventing a winning phone OS is hard. Ask Apple, RIM, MS and Nokia. Samsung software? C'mon, seriously not great. TouchWiz is ok, but after that - no no no.

Rather than move away from Android, if I had to bet, I'd bet that Samsung tried to threaten them that they might, to win some concession or the other.

Remember the history - it's important. The day that Google said they were buying Motorola, Samsung came out in Korea and said, don't worry workers, we'll never trust a foreign power and their stock shot up.

Then Google said, don't worry, we won't hold Android back from you when we buy Motorola (as if they ever would except in some deranged fantasy) - and Samsung announced, ta da, we really put it to Google. And the home crowd cheered.

That actually happened already.

Motorola was going under. If they did, we'd have lost our only domestic Android producer of phones. Google couldn't afford that, they couldn't afford to not buy them.

Ever since, we've been hearing that Samsung could be the injured party, Samsung needs to go to their own os, Samsung is going to their os. Baloney sausage.

Maybe someday - but not anytime soon.

Meanwhile on that year by year thing - the Google CFO said that they needed to clear an 18 month pipeline before doing their own thing. If true, and if we count from when when the deal started, that puts us out at November to see anything.
Before Google's CFO even made that statement, I was singing that tune to many of the Photon users that were losing confidence in Motorola. Many were expecting "instant" changes that would not only help Motorola, but the many consumers that had faith in Motorola's product (myself included). I had faith, but at the same time became a little disillusioned when Motorola retracted their early promises of upgrading the Photon to ICS (along with some other Motorola phones from non-Verizon providers). That was the point when I figured it'd be best to step away, until Google was really able to dig their paws into righting the Motorola ship (assuming that was even possible). Even November would be before my projected 2 year timeframe (w/ a 1 year minimum), so if Google does manage to pull off the "a-la-cart" phone by that time, I'd be amazed that they were able to act that quick.
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Let's see if it's just me -

HTC released versions of the One last year and everyone screamed bloody murder that they were doing it wrong.

Samsung has more variations of the Galaxy S3, including different names and just as many as HTC, and people actually believe that they're doing it right because "Samsung only makes one model of the 3!" I repeat, people actually believe that.

Now - the Motorola X is CLEARLY going to be several actual models, but they're not even going try to hide that the emperor has no clothes. They'll simply claim that they can call several different models by the exact same name, tell people that's called a la carte, and already the blogosphere is buying it hook, line, and sinker.

Isn't that about right?

Gosh I'm glad that HTC is finally building one model like everyone else.

Too bad it's not a la carte like the incredible Motorola X.

You can't make up what this industry gets away with in broad daylight.
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Before Google's CFO even made that statement, I was singing that tune to many of the Photon users that were losing confidence in Motorola. Many were expecting "instant" changes that would not only help Motorola, but the many consumers that had faith in Motorola's product (myself included). I had faith, but at the same time became a little disillusioned when Motorola retracted their early promises of upgrading the Photon to ICS (along with some other Motorola phones from non-Verizon providers). That was the point when I figured it'd be best to step away, until Google was really able to dig their paws into righting the Motorola ship (assuming that was even possible). Even November would be before my projected 2 year timeframe (w/ a 1 year minimum), so if Google does manage to pull off the "a-la-cart" phone by that time, I'd be amazed that they were able to act that quick.
The PHOTON fiasco is still fresh in my mind.Perhaps not as bitter or vocal about it,but,very mindful of their handling of it.The locking it down w/the 2.3.5 update & playing dumb/amnesiatic episode/history revision,etc...whatever you want to call it,was an immature & downright deceitful move.

Even though they've "cleaned house",MOTO will have to "show me the $",talk is cheap.

Until they prove that they're gonna actually support a phone in a relatively timely manner,as good as the MOTOX sounds like it can be,I'll take a pass on it.

They'd better roll out something before SAMSUNG steamrolls 'em w/the SGSIV & NOTE III.

Don't get me wrong,I think MOTO will be around for the long haul,whether they gain market share or not.

As EM eluded to earlier,GOOGLE is in this for the long haul, w/MOTO being the sole US manufacturer.

I really liked my MO'PHO & perhaps in a couple years,MOTO will be sailing along just fine.I'll take a look @ 'em then.
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Let's see if it's just me -

HTC released versions of the One last year and everyone screamed bloody murder that they were doing it wrong.

Samsung has more variations of the Galaxy S3, including different names and just as many as HTC, and people actually believe that they're doing it right because "Samsung only makes one model of the 3!" I repeat, people actually believe that.

Now - the Motorola X is CLEARLY going to be several actual models, but they're not even going try to hide that the emperor has no clothes. They'll simply claim that they can call several different models by the exact same name, tell people that's called a la carte, and already the blogosphere is buying it hook, line, and sinker.

Isn't that about right?

Gosh I'm glad that HTC is finally building one model like everyone else.

Too bad it's not a la carte like the incredible Motorola X.

You can't make up what this industry gets away with in broad daylight.
Difference between the variations of the S3 vs. the variations of the One (last year) is that the high end models of the S3 were all physicially the same. The high-end variations of the One last year, were not.

The variations of the S3 that were released were all mid-range w/ lesser specs and were not necessarily available to the countries that would garner the most sales of the higher end models. I don't know any variations of the S3 that had at least the same specs, if not better. That wasn't the case with the HTC One. Arguments can be made that there were certain aspects of the HTC LTEvo that were much better than the originally announced One, but LTEvo was a variant of the One. Then, there was the One X w/ higher specs.
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Difference between the variations of the S3 vs. the variations of the One (last year) is that the high end models of the S3 were all physicially the same. The high-end variations of the One last year, were not.
With differences in processors, radio transceivers, memory (type and amount), modems, glue logic and antennas - basically, everything except the case, screen, digitizer, camera, sensors and buttons - the variations of the S3 were hardly physically the same. And the S3 with LTE in the US was not the S3 LTE, that was the Australian model.

The US One XL came out and everyone cried foul. The US SGS3 came out with the same exact differences than the international model as the relationship of the One X vs One XL, and Samsung simply didn't bother to honestly rename it - and everyone praised Samsung for not making two different models, not like that bad HTC.

That was pure marketing hokum, and had nothing to do with physical reality.

One S, oh, the horrors, they broke their promise for just one model! SGS3 Mini, brilliant!

Cheers.

PS - I therefore stand by my remarks about the so-called Motorola X a la carte.
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With differences in processors, radio transceivers, memory (type and amount), modems, glue logic and antennas - basically, everything except the case, screen, digitizer, camera, sensors and buttons - the variations of the S3 were hardly physically the same. And the S3 with LTE in the US was not the S3 LTE, that was the Australian model.

The US One XL came out and everyone cried foul. The US SGS3 came out with the same exact differences than the international model as the relationship of the One X vs One XL, and Samsung simply didn't bother to honestly rename it - and everyone praised Samsung for not making two different models, not like that bad HTC.

That was pure marketing hokum, and had nothing to do with physical reality.

One S, oh, the horrors, they broke their promise for just one model! SGS3 Mini, brilliant!

Cheers.

PS - I therefore stand by my remarks about the so-called Motorola X a la carte.
Bottom line though...

Were 3rd party manufacturers able to make accessories specifically tailored for S3's, that would work across the board for majority of the world?

Was that the same with HTC?

So, while I understand your argument EM, from a marketing standpoint...much easier to justify saying Samsung made the same phone available worldwide vs. HTC's One, despite the internals not being the same.

If you asked the general consumer about all of those things you brought up, they'd look at you with a blank stare. If you showed them the differences physically between all the S3 variants vs. the differences in the One series variants...which series do you think the general consumer would say are different phones vs. the same phones?
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Great straw man argument.

Did you see the video of the iPhone 4S owners, handed an iPhone 4S, told that it was an iPhone 5, and every single one of them couldn't get over how much bigger and high definition it was compared to their existing phone?

So while the hypothetical "general consumer" comes up often, that can mean whatever you like for any results you choose, in my opinion.

None of which addressed my point - that multiple X models, masquerading as one a la carte model, is the height of folly.

And Samsung started it while another maker didn't get a fair shake.
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HTC released versions of the One last year and everyone screamed bloody murder that they were doing it wrong.

Samsung has more variations of the Galaxy S3, including different names and just as many as HTC, and people actually believe that they're doing it right because "Samsung only makes one model of the 3!" I repeat, people actually believe that.

Now - the Motorola X is CLEARLY going to be several actual models, but they're not even going try to hide that the emperor has no clothes. They'll simply claim that they can call several different models by the exact same name, tell people that's called a la carte, and already the blogosphere is buying it hook, line, and sinker.

Isn't that about right?

Gosh I'm glad that HTC is finally building one model like everyone else.

Too bad it's not a la carte like the incredible Motorola X.

You can't make up what this industry gets away with in broad daylight.
That was what I was thinking.

Now ..if the design is that i can upgrade the different parts of the phone as needed.

Example ..I had 1gb ram ..to save money then at first ...then wanted to upgrade to 2 ..I can. Or replace the screen with a higher resolution

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Great straw man argument.

Did you see the video of the iPhone 4S owners, handed an iPhone 4S, told that it was an iPhone 5, and every single one of them couldn't get over how much bigger and high definition it was compared to their existing phone?

So while the hypothetical "general consumer" comes up often, that can mean whatever you like for any results you choose, in my opinion.

None of which addressed my point - that multiple X models, masquerading as one a la carte model, is the height of folly.

And Samsung started it while another maker didn't get a fair shake.
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Galaxy Note 3 display sized outed by Samsung Game Pad?
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Look at you... Swearing never to own a Sammy, or a Motorola, and now having one and considering the other
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Is a 5.2 inch LG Nexus 5, powered by the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800, on the way?
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Galaxy Note 3 display sized outed by Samsung Game Pad?
Many of us have said our Note 2's were great enough to last us 2 years. I ain't gonna lie....6.3"..... I'd have that puppy on launch day.
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Doing just what I did for the Note 2. Stalking the store at 6am 1hr earlier than they open just to be the 1st in the door.
Lol... since Best Buy changed their price match policy finally, it would be open market for me. I'd have to see overall dimensions before choosing a 6.3 inch screen. I doubt it'll be comfortable enough for me, kinda like the note 1.
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Ain't that some ish? Lol, I guess you never do say never. Granted, HTC more or less pushed me away from buying their products at around the time the SGS3 was released due to the whole locked bootloader fiasco.
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The PHOTON fiasco is still fresh in my mind.Perhaps not as bitter or vocal about it,but,very mindful of their handling of it.The locking it down w/the 2.3.5 update & playing dumb/amnesiatic episode/history revision,etc...whatever you want to call it,was an immature & downright deceitful move.
Same here. The Photon was very well made and I loved it, but when they did the replacement they really upset me. Much like Lenovo did when they replaced the Thinkpad Tablet. (At least Moto kept the phone and Android one, unlike Lenovo thta switched the Thinkpad to be a Windows tablet) Totally unforgivable. Never again with lenovo and to some extent Moto. But I would give them a chance if they offer something to my liking.

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I absolutely loved my Photon right up to the day I gave it away. Moto as a company left a bitter taste in my mouth. Too many words not enough action. When they gave Photon owners their middle finger I knew then I'd never buy another one of their phones.
The Photon was too new to be getting the “we can't be bothered with it" treatment.
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Hearing stuff like this is what has made me move further and further away from HTC in the future:
HTC One delay a result of company’s prior troubles, Peter Chou’s fate hangs in the balance

It's been too consistent within the past few years to hear about delays. Heck, even my original EVO (which I loved), had to be replaced 2 X's (within 1 month) when I first purchased it and the 2nd replacement, I had to wait for availability somewhere (got lucky that they had 1 come in the day I happened to be visiting Best Buy).
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Same here. The Photon was very well made and I loved it, but when they did the replacement they really upset me. Much like Lenovo did when they replaced the Thinkpad Tablet. (At least Moto kept the phone and Android one, unlike Lenovo thta switched the Thinkpad to be a Windows tablet) Totally unforgivable. Never again with lenovo and to some extent Moto. But I would give them a chance if they offer something to my liking.

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I absolutely loved my Photon right up to the day I gave it away. Moto as a company left a bitter taste in my mouth. Too many words not enough action. When they gave Photon owners their middle finger I knew then I'd never buy another one of their phones.
The Photon was too new to be getting the “we can't be bothered with it" treatment.
I loved the Photon too, up until Motorola's press release regarding discontinued support. Up until a week before purchasing the Note 2, I was still on the fence on whether I would get the Buy Back price I had on the Photon or just keep it as a backup phone. Nontheless, I wasn't that disappointed in Motorola because from a business perspective, I was hoping that they were just taking a few steps back to start jumping forward. Plus, I knew that there wouldn't be an immediate impact from Google, once the purchase was finalized.

I'm just glad I have to wait until 2014 (unless I decide to purchase off contract).
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It's been too consistent within the past few years to hear about delays. Heck, even my original EVO (which I loved), had to be replaced 2 X's (within 1 month) when I first purchased it and the 2nd replacement, I had to wait for availability somewhere (got lucky that they had 1 come in the day I happened to be visiting Best Buy).
Yep.

Blog reports drive people away. Profits drop. Blog reports drive more away.

I could go on about all of the Samsungs or Motorolas that failed me, replacement after replacement, or how Motorola was so crappy that they were circling the drain when Google stepped in, or how last year's delay was caused by Apple's bs that got them held up in Customs, but why bother.

Not a thing wrong with the phones last year. Did the blogs say, Apple sucks for pulling that stunt? No. They did not. They said, good thing HTC wasn't guilty, but they should have planned for our crooks sticking it to them.

Or how the decline started with the Apple lawsuit for features that Microsoft invented and are ok on your PC. The blogs couldn't bother with that side of the story. Or how the restrictions were for the USA only, Apple couldn't get that in Europe.

Yeah, HTC sucks so bad they should just go away. It's all their fault. Plus, let's never forget how bloated Sense is. Not all tiny like TouchWiz and the others.
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While this could happen in the future,Peter Chou's demise is based on hearsay.Once again,a solid source for a quote is missing from a "news article".

Changes @ the helm aren't unheard of,in good times & otherwise,look no further than SAMSUNG,w/a shake-up of their own, the day after the announcement of the SGS 4:

Samsung experiences executive change-up, two new CEOs added - Pocket-lint

As for updates,all the manufacturers,outside of NEXUS devices,leave a bit to be desired.

As for quality,seems for the most part,everyone has stepped up their game in the last two years.Nothing scientific,but,seems most gripes in the forum seem to be firmware/software based.
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Yep.

Blog reports drive people away. Profits drop. Blog reports drive more away.

I could go on about all of the Samsungs or Motorolas that failed me, replacement after replacement, or how Motorola was so crappy that they were circling the drain when Google stepped in, or how last year's delay was caused by Apple's bs that got them held up in Customs, but why bother.

Not a thing wrong with the phones last year. Did the blogs say, Apple sucks for pulling that stunt? No. They did not. They said, good thing HTC wasn't guilty, but they should have planned for our crooks sticking it to them.

Or how the decline started with the Apple lawsuit for features that Microsoft invented and are ok on your PC. The blogs couldn't bother with that side of the story. Or how the restrictions were for the USA only, Apple couldn't get that in Europe.

Yeah, HTC sucks so bad they should just go away. It's all their fault. Plus, let's never forget how bloated Sense is. Not all tiny like TouchWiz and the others.
Done ranting or being defensive EM?...LOL. You're right, all of the manufacturers are guilty of it one way or another. I just never thought that I'd be less likely to buy a HTC phone over a Motorola or Samsung. But as of right now, I actually don't mind having a Samsung and absolutely loved my experience with Motorola (w/ one of the less popular superphones and most underrated). Funny how things can change because I swore that I'd never get a Samsung phone as my daily driver, ever since I got my family an Epic that always ended up having something wrong with it.

Bottom line is it all comes down to each individual's needs. HTC's phones just don't suit my personal needs in a device, like other manufacturers currently do.
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I don't mind sounding defensive for HTC, if that's how you took that.

After our screwed up patent system, courts, politicians and industry blogs get done offending me, I still have to contend with the possibility of the maker of first Android going under when their quality problems have already been addressed and their innovation just dropped a bomb on everyone.

I would submit that rather than read my earlier post as defensive, read it as really damned pissed off at the state of affairs.

As for which of us was ranting, I won't say my hands were clean if you don't.
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I don't mind sounding defensive for HTC, if that's how you took that.

After our screwed up patent system, courts, politicians and industry blogs get done offending me, I still have to contend with the possibility of the maker of first Android going under when their quality problems have already been addressed and their innovation just dropped a bomb on everyone.

I would submit that rather than read my earlier post as defensive, read it as really damned pissed off at the state of affairs.

As for which of us was ranting, I won't say my hands were clean if you don't.
Just messin' with you. You know me though. Samsung was the 1 manufacturer I swore I'd never buy from. I just didn't trust the quality of their products, until the S2 released, and they started making extreme revenue from their mobile division. At that point, they started increasing the amount of support they were giving to the US and it made me think to consider them just a 'bit, compared to the past.

But I do agree. It's unfortunate what these types of reviews do and how much they can skew the general consumers away from a particular manufacturer. Unfortunatley, the general scope of the mobile industry is dictated from popularity (and not necessarily "quality"), so when you have Apple and now Samsung up their as "super powers"...that also dictates what 3rd party accessory manufacturers produce. I really do hope that HTC makes a comeback, as well as Motorola. Last year, I had a really tough time making a choice for upgrade and the Note 2 ended up being the "clear cut" winner for the phone I wanted as my final Gold Premiere upgrade. Going forward, I hope that the products that the OEM's release make it an even tougher decision for me. The beauty, of the bar continuing to raise, equates to us consumers benefiting from having multiple choices. I love having choices and options (which is the biggest reason I've stayed away from Apple products for so long, and will likely to continue staying away).

And regarding the screwed up patent system...yes, it is quite messy. Ultimately, I just hope that it gets fixed enough that I don't have to worry about buying a product that might not end up getting supported (going forward), just because they got sued over a patent that is irrelevant to the consumer.

So...getting back to the subject at hand...how bout the new Spank Network? A few years ago, I never thought that there'd be a day where Sprint would really be offering the top phones in the industry. With that upward trend, I hope that NV follows the same path, so that by the time I'm upgrading again in 2014, the results will be better than any of us anticipated.
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I've not been following, been wondering where Spank is at. In addition to their network promises, I was hoping that we'd see some of the phones in the Japanese stable coming our way.

I'd love to see some high-quality Sharps over here.
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I've not been following, been wondering where Spank is at. In addition to their network promises, I was hoping that we'd see some of the phones in the Japanese stable coming our way.

I'd love to see some high-quality Sharps over here.
Yeah, I give that influence the same amount of time I'm giving Google with Motorola...but the phones you had posted in the Spank thread that were exclusive to Japan! Oh man, I had spotted a few of those phones that would've been perfect for my 70+ year old father that hated having an all touchscreen phone. Hopefully, they do expand to even more offerings.
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Report: Samsung meeting with AT&T execs to showcase Galaxy Note 3

So, speculation is that the 6.3 inch is for the "budget" version and the 5.9 is for the high-end Note 3? That's the oddest thing I've heard with all the new phone rumors.

Now, what I do like hearing is the expectations that Samsung will somehow be able to fit a 5.9 inch screen in the same size (or smaller) form factor than the current Note 2. If that's the case, I take back what I said about 5.9 inch screen being too big. I'm a 'bit skeptical about that though, considering the height of the Note 2 is 5.94. A 5.9 inch screen fitting in a phone that's only 5.94 in height overall? That would be impressive.
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Just wanted to post this link to an article in today's PHANDROID w/update:

CyanogenMod developers reluctant to work with Galaxy S4 [Updated with official statement from CM]

While CYANOGENMOD-ified phones are not the norm for most users,I understand THE CM teams frustration,especially since the "news" regarding CM support was from "reliable/unknown" sources & NOT from any official CM source.The "news" was pre-mature & outright incorrect.

The same has been permeating the tech sites ad-nauseum as of late & while it's fun to discuss what-ifs, especially in a thread specifically for such talk,the BS spewing forth from some of these sites (PC MAG,etc....[I'm calling them out for re-hashing last weeks "news" again today,you'll have to dredge there yourself to see what I'm talking about,not posting it here]) needs to be examined for what it is before jumping to conclusions.

Call me guilty of posting such links @ times,I promise to read & checkup on future links before posting them in the forum from here on out.
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Yeah, I give that influence the same amount of time I'm giving Google with Motorola...but the phones you had posted in the Spank thread that were exclusive to Japan! Oh man, I had spotted a few of those phones that would've been perfect for my 70+ year old father that hated having an all touchscreen phone. Hopefully, they do expand to even more offerings.
Their Android catalog in Japan is huge. Shortly after people here wanted a "retinal" display, Sharp had one there already. Exact same screen size and resolution. I was told that it was top quality to boot.

They keep telling us we want thin. According to those impressed by the almost one millimeter thickness reduction in one of the new models coming, that's evidently true. In Japan, they get waterproof instead.

I was in the rain when my phone rang, of course, I didn't answer it. The Japanese standing near me looked around to see who wasn't answering. When they saw me, their faces changed to one of polite understanding and they nodded. And went back to texting and talking.

It was at that moment that I knew that we were doing it wrong.
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