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Old September 3rd, 2013, 11:43 AM   #2301 (permalink)
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Android Kit Kat is the next version of Google's mobile operating system | The Verge

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I posted on twitter that the name goes back to 1911 UK but it is still a brand name. So i guess using brand names are now a go with Google.

Next up...
Little Debbie instead of Lemon cake
MARS instead of meringue
Nutella instead of Nectar

and so on and so on. Maybe Google should buy out a food company to avoid any possible trademark issues lol

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BBC reported that no money changed hands and that the two companies are in together now - look for Kit Kats with Google prizes inside.
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Not really sure how or why it's an issue. Or why people are making such a big deal about it...
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Not really sure how or why it's an issue. Or why people are making such a big deal about it...
They've managed to productize the name of an operating system. That in itself is something that only Google could manage at this point in time and it's historical.

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Not really sure how or why it's an issue. Or why people are making such a big deal about it...
its not really an issue nor is anyone really talking about it (except me) but from what i can recall from Apple sauce all the way to Jelly bean it has been and was a dessert with no corporate or brand name tied to it.

To me its unoriginal in naming a OS, but regardless of the name as long as it works and brings newer improvement, they can call it Kola Nuts for all I care.

edit: didn't see Earlys response, so basically I call ditto. lol

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Comments on the news blogs are erupting into flame wars over it.

My takeaway was some people are uncomfortable with the change to product placement but don't know why, while others are defensive of Google out of habit and don't know why.

Schmidt and Rubin gone, Page promised when he took over that Android would be about Google's goals now.

I neither like nor dislike it, I'm just getting numb to anything that Larry and company think up next.

Ad blockers in Play Store gone, Gtalk retired in favor of Hangouts (catastrophe), and now a Nestlé commercial built-in to my next operating system.

With the recent shift by Hugo Barra to Xiaomi, I really expect to see one of their phones on the Spank network before we ever see another Nexus.

I'm about ready to embrace MIUI.

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I can't wait to see what the Kit Kat Easter Egg is going to look like.
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This may be a bit off topic but since it involves Sprint let me shoot it out anyway.

I always felt that IFA (being held this week) is basically a European showcasing of devices much like CES is of the USA and as such would most likely be more tailored to carriers of the region, so why is it that Dan Hesse of Sprint will be making a keynote speech on Sept 6th?

Can anyone explain?

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This may be a bit off topic but since it involves Sprint let me shoot it out anyway.

I always felt that IFA (being held this week) is basically a European showcasing of devices much like CES is of the USA and as such would most likely be more tailored to carriers of the region, so why is it that Dan Hesse of Sprint will be making a keynote speech on Sept 6th?

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Interesting...maybe w/ the Softbank deal being finalized, future Sprint phones will all be world phones?
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For those that didn't see. Easter egg in the KitKat statue unveiling.

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Interesting...maybe w/ the Softbank deal being finalized, future Sprint phones will all be world phones?
I think this would be a big plus for Sprint.
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But is it coming to Sprint ? Nexus phones have not been a welcome to Sprint and I hope they change this.
 
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Two out of four were here, the S and the GNex.

I think that the Verizon debacle soured them to making a variant, don't know that for sure though.
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Based on the specs CNet had posted with their video, I did a quick Note 2 vs. Note 3 comparison thread in the Note 3 forums:

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Nexus?

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-351-teaser-is-the-lg-d820-the-nexus-5/
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Looks like Sprint could be getting one after all.
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I've been wanting to experience the whole nexus phone and this might finally be it.
 
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As long as that means Sprint will have the 64gb version, it doesn't matter to me when it's released...LOL.

-EDIT- And I should add, available for purchase at 3rd party retailers, as well. I really hate when the carriers force customers to purchase directly from them.
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This may be a bit off topic but since it involves Sprint let me shoot it out anyway.

I always felt that IFA (being held this week) is basically a European showcasing of devices much like CES is of the USA and as such would most likely be more tailored to carriers of the region, so why is it that Dan Hesse of Sprint will be making a keynote speech on Sept 6th?

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Interesting...maybe w/ the Softbank deal being finalized, future Sprint phones will all be world phones?
I was way wrong, TS. Here's the quote from the article that explains.

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...Why are U.S. CEOs taking the stage at a European trade fair? According to executives from IFA, the group's recent strategic partnership with CTIA is behind the interest from the U.S. executives. Last February CTIA announced it was partnering with IFA as its official show partner for global consumer electronics. Hesse is expected to talk about the impact of wireless on society,...
IFA Berlin event promises smart watches, connected cars and more - FierceWireless
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As long as that means Sprint will have the 64gb version, it doesn't matter to me when it's released...LOL.

-EDIT- And I should add, available for purchase at 3rd party retailers, as well. I really hate when the carriers force customers to purchase directly from them.
I know right.

Oddly enough the Sprint Moto X is apparently available at Best Buy and online now...but not yet in Sprint Stores.
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As it turns out, that's not the Nexus

Just a CDMA G2 variant.
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As it turns out, that's not the Nexus

Just a CDMA G2 variant.
Not totally true, evaleaks typo'd that the d820 was the g2 variant when they meant d821. The 820 is still wide open.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/09/the-lg-d820821-supposedly-isnt-a-new-nexus-phone-according-to-evleaks-its-a-cdma-compatible-g2-variant/
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I know right.

Oddly enough the Sprint Moto X is apparently available at Best Buy and online now...but not yet in Sprint Stores.
You can probably confirm if this is right, but I vaguely remember the same type of scenario when the S3 was released.

When I went into a Sprint store to find out if they'd be offering the 64gb version, they obviously didn't know yet, but the rep also mentioned that the higher memory versions are usually "online exclusive" directly through the Sprint website.

Your best guess...if Sprint does end up offering the 64gb version, do you think it would be an online exclusive directly through the Sprint website or do you think they'll be smart enough to offer it anywhere it can sell (including 3rd party retailers)?
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If only ASUS had kept the microSD slot or even added it on the tablet portion only, I'd seriously consider getting this (regardless of which provider it was on)

New ASUS PadFone Infinity launching Sept. 17th
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Great...what if Sprint's holdout is because there'll be a "special edition" version heading to Sprint, with a flexible display?
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Variant or LG Vu 3 Could Be First Handset with Flexible Display
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So, this looks like it might be the Sprint version of the Note 3, but on the FCC paperwork, I saw it mention 850/1900. I know that the current LTE is on the 1900 spectrum, but wasn't the 800 (former Nextel) spectrum supposed to be converted? Does that mean that the Note 3 won't be a Tri-band phone, necessarily? I need someone who understands this stuff to explain in clearer detail.
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So, this looks like it might be the Sprint version of the Note 3, but on the FCC paperwork, I saw it mention 850/1900. I know that the current LTE is on the 1900 spectrum, but wasn't the 800 (former Nextel) spectrum supposed to be converted? Does that mean that the Note 3 won't be a Tri-band phone, necessarily? I need someone who understands this stuff to explain in clearer detail.
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Ya, the Note 3 doesn't look like it going to be tri-band. Sprint has lte spectrum 800 MHz /1900 MHz /2.5 GHz
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Ya, the Note 3 doesn't look like it going to be tri-band. Sprint has lte spectrum 800 MHz /1900 MHz /2.5 GHz
Assuming that phone IS the Sprint Note 3
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Assuming that phone IS the Sprint Note 3
Getting a little antsy, Mr. Ed.

After NZtechfreak posted up some "hands on" time with the Note 3, I'm hoping you get some too with the Sprint version

So I had half a weekend to play with the Note 3, what did I think? [Z1/808/S4 cam comparison too]

Seeing the 25gb of usable storage on the 32gb version put me at ease for "needing" the 64gb version, but I'd still like to know if Sprint intends on offering it and if it will be exclusive to Sprint online or offered at 3rd party retailers also.

I'm planning on holding off bringing my Note 2 in for trade in until the last possible minute, but it'll likely be next weekend, prior to ATT releasing their version. I just want to be sure I won't be stuck using my Photon backup for more than 4 weeks...LOL.
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Apparently the IBT says that Sprint is getting the Note 3 on Oct 2nd.
I can't help but think its too soon.

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Apparently the IBT says that Sprint is getting the Note 3 on Oct 2nd.

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The reason I say I'll believe it when i see it is because the source states a store rep gave the date after a Samsung guy came in to show off the device.
Now it could be true about the date, but i always felt it would be in mid Oct.

Now if it is the 2nd, that only leaves 1 week left for a preorder to start, which gives the shipper about a week to send the phones out to people before the date of Oct 2. Or Sprint does no pre-order and just starts selling the phone on that date.
As for the iPhone, my theory is that they would want to postpone any device that might limit them selling as many iphones as possible. Remember they do have to sell so many iphones as per that past agreement.


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The reason I say I'll believe it when i see it is because the source states a store rep gave the date after a Samsung guy came in to show off the device.
Now it could be true about the date, but i always felt it would be in mid Oct.

Now if it is the 2nd, that only leaves 1 week left for a preorder to start, which gives the shipper about a week to send the phones out to people before the date of Oct 2. Or Sprint does no pre-order and just starts selling the phone on that date.
As for the iPhone, my theory is that they would want to postpone any device that might limit them selling as many iphones as possible. Remember they do have to sell so many iphones as per that past agreement.


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Yup. That was my thought also, regarding the iPhone. I wouldn't be surprised if Sprint went with no pre-order on the Note 3 because they didn't really have a pre-order on the Note 2 either. At the same time, that was still 1st year offering the Note series, so that might have been due to their not knowing how popular it would be (kinda like the EVO) and then all of a sudden, found themselves trying to re-fill stock.
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Because of TS posting that article, I went into Best Buy to speak to the Samsung Experience guys, since they are actually Samsung employees. I asked 2 questions 1) Do they know when Sprint is releasing and 2) Will they offer the 64gb version.

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1) No, not the definitive date, but I suspect it'll be sometime in 1st week of October.

Follow up question, by me:
So, you don't think it'll be pushed back to later in the month?

Answer: No, everyone should be releasing around the same time.

2) Unfortunately, only the 32 is the version that seems everyone will be offering. I don't know definitively, but all signs point to all carriers only offering the 32gb version.

Follow up question by me:
I was hoping that since Sprint was being so quiet, that might be a sign they might offer the 64. So you don't think that might be a remote possibility?

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No, I wish I could say that was the case, but it doesn't really appear that anyone in the US will offer the 64 and the 64 will only be for the International unlocked.

I'm paraphrasing and as always, take that info with a grain of salt, but even though I'm slightly disappointed to hear no 64, I was encouraged to hear 1st week of October.

That means only a couple weaks back on the photon, instead of 1 month.
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Ya, the Note 3 doesn't look like it going to be tri-band. Sprint has lte spectrum 800 MHz /1900 MHz /2.5 GHz
So, Engadget had updated their report and showed a model n900p that seems more likely the Sprint version. I inspected that model numbers documents more here:

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout =500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=134996&fcc_i d=A3LSMN900P

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From what I remember, wasn't Nextel originally on a GSM spectrum to begin with? So, does the fact that GSM-850 also used to be called GSM-800 mean that this would be the Nextel spectrum?

All this stuff doesn't make all that much sense to me, when going more into detail, so hopefully someone in here can explain the different radios that would connect to Sprint.
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So now, a bunch of tech outlets are sighting the IBTimes article, pegging an October 2 release date.

Here's my only question about that. October 2 is a Wednesday. Sprint doesn't typically launch phones on Wendesdays (with a few exceptions here and there). Friday is usually their "Go to" release day.

That said, I just hope that Best Buy has it the same day as Sprint. As much as I want to believe all the talk, I'll believe it when I see the phone being offered or an official statement, prior to release.
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So now, a bunch of tech outlets are sighting the IBTimes article, pegging an October 2 release date.

Here's my only question about that. October 2 is a Wednesday. Sprint doesn't typically launch phones on Wendesdays (with a few exceptions here and there). Friday is usually their "Go to" release day.

That said, I just hope that Best Buy has it the same day as Sprint. As much as I want to believe all the talk, I'll believe it when I see the phone being offered or an official statement, prior to release.
Safe to assume US SGN3's are shipping w/ SD800 SoC's instead of Exynos?
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Safe to assume US SGN3's are shipping w/ SD800 SoC's instead of Exynos?
From all the talks, yes. Only G-Note 3's I've read about, carrying the Exynos octa core, are the international (non-LTE) versions.

It'll be interesting experiencing a Snapdragon processor again. It'll be my first since the Evo! I've had a spin with Tegra 2, now on Exynos...but I'd love to see how the extra RAM helps out performance.

After 1 year, I do notice some lag on my Note 2, but that's after loading up with apps and videos, to the point that I'm having storage issues on both my internal and external storage. I've got some clean up, as well as back up to do this weekend.
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sorry guys with with roughly a week before the note 3 is rumored to launch it is highly unlikely I will get any time with it.

I am swamped with the iphone launch and if rumors online are true I will continue to be swamped with back to back phone launches.

Drex where did you find pre orders for the LG? I haven't seen info on it other than the standard "coming soon". I get to see it in early October but can't talk about that one until release.

Sprint has a ton of things cooking right now and they will not tell us what they are....they won't even let us in the kitchen for a smell
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Note 3 coming to Sprint Oct 4

Sprint Community: Announcements: Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and Galaxy Gear Come to Sprint on Oct. 4
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sorry guys with with roughly a week before the note 3 is rumored to launch it is highly unlikely I will get any time with it.

I am swamped with the iphone launch and if rumors online are true I will continue to be swamped with back to back phone launches.

Drex where did you find pre orders for the LG? I haven't seen info on it other than the standard "coming soon". I get to see it in early October but can't talk about that one until release.

Sprint has a ton of things cooking right now and they will not tell us what they are....they won't even let us in the kitchen for a smell
There were a ton of articles that were popping up, when I was searching for Note 3 info, but here's one from Phonedog:

Sprint LG G2 pre-orders kick off Oct. 11 for $199.99, include free Quick Window case | PhoneDog
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There were a ton of articles that were popping up, when I was searching for Note 3 info, but here's one from Phonedog:

Sprint LG G2 pre-orders kick off Oct. 11 for $199.99, include free Quick Window case | PhoneDog
Sweet. Apparently I am going to a big LG party a few days prior and will later receive one free! I haven't even received my Moto X yet

I am still weary of the no removable battery thing after nearly bricking my HTC One...I most likely won't root the LG like I typically do with all of my phones.
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What's the battery, storage, and SD card option for the Sprint G2?
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What's the battery, storage, and SD card option for the Spirit G2?
No battery, runs on AC
Plenty of storage
No SD Card

G2 Spirit




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blah...plenty of storage is a matter of opinion

I refuse to support the cloud mentality and have maxed out every non expandable phone offered so far...and maxed internal and external card+usb drives on external options.

I want to say that I recall the Note 3 being tested and reportedly working with portable 1TB USB drives and working though...that would be awesome for me.
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Didn't click the link in ts' post didja?
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For the record, I agree storage is a matter of opinion, but Earlymon misspelled the Sprint G2 as Spirit and as luck would have it there is such a thing as a G2 Spirit which I linked above. Plenty of storage lol

TS out (confusing other folks)
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