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Old July 29th, 2012, 03:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default My review of SPRINT? Terrible! (S3 related)

This is going to be a rant because I feel like I got jipped on my S3 for Sprint, both data and calling.

On June 6th, I pre-ordered this awesome phone. I knew that LTE was in the works, but decided to get it anyway on Sprint because you just can't beat their unlimited data and prices, IMO. I knew it would only be 3G capable for a while because the LTE towers were being processed.

On June 21st I got it. I always use wifi at home, so I hooked it up and had endless hours sitting on the couch drinking beer learning my new device. I had previously owned the EVO 3D. I had done a lot of reading and noticed where I live (Houston) the LTE towers would be turned on July 15th. So a couple weeks went by and I saw someone on here had LTE in Kansas as that was another area to get LTE when we would. On July 14th, I switched to LTE on my phone and the 4G appeared. I was really excited. When I went a few miles away from the shopping center I was in with 4G, 3G came back on. The next day I had 4G only on my 20 min ride to work. No 4G at work and I am about 12 miles from downtown Houston.

I have an hour lunch break at work where I used to ALWAYS mess with my EVO - going from youtube to facebook, texting, internet, downloading apps... I did it all because an hour for lunch can be boring. The rest of that week I did NOT have 4G anywhere. A guy I work with had just gotten one on July 1st and he was getting as aggrivated as me. I called Sprint customer service. They said there was an LTE tower not far from my work and that now, the 4G was just basic and not LTE until at least August 15th. I told her the 4G is so scarce I can almost never use it. It's hit or miss when I'm out of the house. She couldn't give me an answer why.

Then I started looking online for a map of 4g LTE coverage for Sprint and when I saw the estimate for mid 2013 my jaw dropped. It was horrible.

I kept remembering the commercials for Verizon and AT&T for LTE, LTE, LTE. In the back of my head I knew I made the wrong choice by staying with Sprint, but I didn't want to accept that or say it out loud.

2 more weeks went by and my honest conclusion is that this phone for Sprint is virtually UNUSABLE. Even the phone signal is very poor unless you're in a happening spot of town. In my apartment I would get 0-1 bars. I could barely send texts, and when people would call me at home I felt I couldn't even use it. At work I had 0-1 bars, sometimes 2 or 3. I've gotten more rejected txt messages in the last month than I could ever think was possible. My EVO never did this.

The data is terrible. 4G LTE is non existant (at least not now or anytime soon). 4G is so patchy it may as well not even turn on. And the 3G is just a plain joke. There were times when it would take minutes to load a page instead of seconds. Sometimes, the pages would never even load period because 3G wasn't even working!

I am not waiting around another year for the LTE. By then, newer phones will be out. And why am I paying 10 a month for data now? I don't even have data capabilities almost!

Shame on Sprint for bringing out 4G LTE phones MONTHS before their sh*t was together. At least try to have them work with WIMAX in the meatime or something! The S3 for Sprint should be compared to a Ferrari without any gas in it. It's cool to look at, but doesn't have what it takes to run.

After all that grief I decided this past Friday I was ultimately FED-UP!

I went out yesterday morning to AT&T, signed up and took home a REAL 4G LTE S3. I played with it at the store and the speeds are crazy fast. I saw a speed test on youtube of two S3's - one on Verizon and one for AT&T. They did 3 tests. AT&T won every time. Like I said, I just renewed last month and STILL left. Huge cancellation fee and all - that's how horrible it was.

Sure - I'm paying more a month, but I'm paying for great service now.

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so...why is your review of the S3 terrible?...its not Samsung, or the S3's fault that Sprint doesn't have their act together...
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Indeed. I think the title is misleading.
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You get what you pay for. Sprint's network sucks, their coverage sucks, but their prices rule, you knew that....if you want data at speeds the S3 can deliver switch to AT&T or VZW and then pay for it, otherwise wait it out until Sprint gets their LTE act together.
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You get what you pay for. Sprint's network sucks, their coverage sucks, but their prices rule, you knew that....if you want data at speeds the S3 can deliver switch to AT&T or VZW and then pay for it, otherwise wait it out until Sprint gets their LTE act together.
I did switch. I went to at&t. I work with 2 guys who have tmobile. Everyday they talked shit for me not having 4g. Yeah, tmobile sucks too. Got tired of listening to them. This is coming from 2 ******s that don't even know what the "G" stands for. Leaving sprint turned out to be a no brainer.....
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We dont even have 4Grandma in the UK.
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I know, but don't you guys have something just as fast? Called "H"?
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Yeah I had the Evo 4G LTE which I returned for various issues and got the S3. It certainly isn't either phones fault but Sprints lackluster 3G speeds and voice issues due to the LTE upgrade.

As a Sprint customer myself all I can say is you're certainly not alone when comes to these issues. Glad you jumped ship to AT&T.

Areas of Chicago and the 'burbs are supposed to be up between September and December of this year so hopefully not too much longer for me.
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Yeah I had the Evo 4G LTE which I returned for various issues and got the S3. It certainly isn't either phones fault but Sprints lackluster 3G speeds and voice issues due to the LTE upgrade.

As a Sprint customer myself all I can say is ride it out like the rest of us, you're certainly not alone when comes to these issues. OR if you're within the 14 day return period return the phone and jump ship to another network, OR pick up a used Wimax enabled phone off Ebay or Craigslist and ride it out until LTE is up in your area.
Haha what part of "I signed up with at&t yesterday" didn't you understand?
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yeah sprint sucks, glad you found a batter carrier and hopefully you got your money back for the phone.
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yeah sprint sucks, glad you found a batter carrier and hopefully you got your money back for the phone.
I didn't get my money back. They have a 14 day Window. I was at day 37. I called and asked, but no bueno. It worked out though... I listed my sprint gs3 on ebay last night... Buy it now for $390. It sold in 15 minutes.
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So far at&t is King, Imo....
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Haha what part of "I signed up with at&t yesterday" didn't you understand?

Sorry about that. I read your post and revised my response. Must of read it while I was revising it.
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title very misleading, should be "My review of Sprint"
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Yeah I had the Evo 4G LTE which I returned for various issues and got the S3. It certainly isn't either phones fault but Sprints lackluster 3G speeds and voice issues due to the LTE upgrade.

As a Sprint customer myself all I can say is you're certainly not alone when comes to these issues. Glad you jumped ship to AT&T.

Areas of Chicago and the 'burbs are supposed to be up between September and December of this year so hopefully not too much longer for me.
To me, waiting it out a couple of weeks was excusable... But a couple months? December for you? That really sucks, man.
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yeah sprint sucks, glad you found a batter carrier and hopefully you got your money back for the phone.

Well I know we're going off topic here but jut let me say this. Sprint is definitely having it's issues right now, not disputing that at all. As of now they deserve every zing and criticism. I was a long time AT&T customer and jumped to Sprint a couple years back because of a lower bill, unlimted data and fairly reliable and fast Wimax network. Also because I was dropping calls like crazy on AT&T.

I was also on AT&T when they were starting to roll out their LTE network and people were going through the same issues and b*tching like crazy like Sprint customers are now (I'm one of them) and jumping ship to Verizon, Sprint or T-mobile.

So let's compare notes again this time next year and see where Sprint is at then. Some people have terrible service others aren't having issues at all. Really depends on where you live and work. At work I have pretty good 3G speeds and voice connection, at home a complete 180.

For the record try using AT&T LTE or making a call in downtown Chicago during a typical work day and you'll find it isn't exactly the superior network it's cracked up to be. Just saying from experience......
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Well I know we're going off topic here but jut let me say this. Sprint is definitely having it's issues right now, not disputing that at all. As of now they deserve every zing and criticism. I was a long time AT&T customer and jumped to Sprint a couple years back because of a lower bill, unlimted data and fairly reliable and fast Wimax network. Also because I was dropping calls like crazy on AT&T.

I was also on AT&T when they were starting to roll out their LTE network and people were going through the same issues and b*tching like crazy like Sprint customers are now (I'm one of them) and jumping ship to Verizon, Sprint or T-mobile.

So let's compare notes again this time next year and see where Sprint is at then. Some people have terrible service others aren't having issues at all. Really depends on where you live and work. At work I have pretty good 3G speeds and voice connection, at hme a complete 180.

For the record try using AT&T LTE or making a call in downtown Chicago during a typical work day and you'll find it isn't exactly the superior network it's cracked up to be. Just saying from experience......
Good point. I'm just not gonna wait a year and not be able to use this awesome phone....
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its true that at the end of the day it all depends on your location. sprint will get better so i should edit my post to say they suck "NOW".

im on metroPCS and the s3 is supposedly coming to metro sometime in Q4 and metro will be spending its Q2 profits on improving their 4G network for next year. where i live metro is golden. never a dropped call and 4G is around 3 to 4mbps. a 3rd of the speed of the big boys but a 3rd of the price and its more than enough to handle the web with no problem.
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its true that at the end of the day it all depends on your location. sprint will get better so i should edit my post to say they suck "NOW".

im on metroPCS and the s3 is supposedly coming to metro sometime in Q4 and metro will be spending its Q2 profits on improving their 4G network for next year. where i live metro is golden. never a dropped call and 4G is around 3 to 4mbps. a 3rd of the speed of the big boys but a 3rd of the price and its more than enough to handle the web with no problem.
At&t was clocked at doing avg of 30 mbps. That's 10x as fast and the bill is $35 more a month. Verizon did 15mbps.
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At&t was clocked at doing avg of 30 mbps. That's 10x as fast and the bill is $35 more a month. Verizon did 15mbps.
depends on your location. verizon is faster than ATT where i live and metroPCS is faster than sprint in my location as well.
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depends on your location. verizon is faster than ATT where i live and metroPCS is faster than sprint in my location as well.
True. But both tests were on LTE networks.
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Good point. I'm just not gonna wait a year and not be able to use this awesome phone....

I totally agree with you! If you're not satisfied with Sprints service you should absolutely jump to another network, you shouldn't have to put up with that. If someone were to ask me what I think of Sprint's service right now because they were thinking about jumping over to Sprint?

I would tell them it's sub par to put it mildly and do their homework because there's a darn good chance they may be very disppointed with it. Their network is going through some major growing pains with this LTE build out, and it will take a while for them to get everything sorted out.

I wish they could just snap their fingers and LTE would light up and all these issues would go away, but unfortunetly that won't happen. For me the service is barely good enough where I can hopefully ride it out for a couple more months. If not, I'll be right with you and sell my SIII, pay the ETF and jump to whichever network I want.

But I'm also being optomistic at the prospect that within the next 2-3 months I'll have a functioning fast LTE network in my town, great voice connection, unlimted data, and a lower bill.

If you look at their NV upgrade schedule, not every town is going to be up and running by the end of the year, which is unfortunate. So people should really consider whether or not it's worth it staying with Sprint or jumping over to ATT or Verizon. Yeah it's a gamble, but one I'm willing to take.
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This thread is not really a review of the Sprint GS3, but of the state of the Sprint network, specifically the LTE rollout in Houston.

If a user is not in an area scheduled to get the LTE upgrades relatively soon, it is perfectly rational to jump to another carrier. But this particular user is in an area (Houston) at the top of the list. He just could not wait until the network buildout was more complete. (Sprint "launched" these cities two weeks ago with only a small fraction of the full tower coverage they are scheduled to get within a few months.) Also, he did not wait to test the latest OTA update to the handset, which is designed to correct a flaw in the LTE threshold settings (on several other Sprint phones, too) that apparently was magnifying the problems caused by the thin LTE tower coverage. Early anecdotal reports from the GS3 OTA rollout, now underway, are positive.

I am pretty confident Sprint will end up with a great network as its Network Vision total rebuild completes nationwide over the next 18 months or more. It's all a matter of timing, patience, location and making rational consumer choices. IMHO, buying this phone on contract then ditching the carrier and paying the hefty ETF, instead of giving the updates a chance, was not the most rational choice. Cancelling within the 14-day trial period might have been. I am about to start a 14-day trial of a Sprint GS3, and I will make a point of testing the LTE network as fully as I can within that period.
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Why doesn't the OP go in & edit the title ?
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This thread is not really a review of the Sprint GS3, but of the state of the Sprint network, specifically the LTE rollout in Houston.

If a user is not in an area scheduled to get the LTE upgrades relatively soon, it is perfectly rational to jump to another carrier. But this particular user is in an area (Houston) at the top of the list. He just could not wait until the network buildout was more complete. (Sprint "launched" these cities two weeks ago with only a small fraction of the full tower coverage they are scheduled to get within a few months.) Also, he did not wait to test the latest OTA update to the handset, which is designed to correct a flaw in the LTE threshold settings (on several other Sprint phones, too) that apparently was magnifying the problems caused by the thin LTE tower coverage. Early anecdotal reports from the GS3 OTA rollout, now underway, are positive.

I am pretty confident Sprint will end up with a great network as its Network Vision Too tal rebuild completes nationwide over the next 18 months or more. It's all a matter of timing, patience, location and making rational consumer choices. IMHO, buying this phone on contract then ditching the carrier and paying the hefty ETF, instead of giving the upda a chance, was not the most rational choice. Cancelling within the 14-day trial period might have been. I am about to start a 14-day trial of a Sprint GS3, and I will make a point of testing the LTE network as fully as I can within that period.

Yeah, test out Sprints terrible service and then call me a liar. I paid $350 to leave them. That's how terrible it was. It's unusable. See for yourself..... Buddy
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Why doesn't the OP go in & edit the title ?
Edit what? It's MY take on a review based on this phone with the shitiest carrier out there right now. Sprint sucks, not the phone. It was a review on the GS3 on Sprint. Read the title again....
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Edit what? It's MY take on a review based on this phone with the shitiest carrier out there right now. Sprint sucks, not the phone. It was a review on the GS3 on Sprint. Read the title again....
I don't think Treb was/is knocking your review Your title comments "review of the S3 for Sprint"..... a better revision would be "review of the S3 on Sprint". One implies it is an S3 issue... the other that it is a sprint issue Your review clearly indicates you are knocking Sprint... not the S3.
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I don't think Treb was/is knocking your review Your title comments "review of the S3 for Sprint"..... a better revision would be "review of the S3 on Sprint". One implies it is an S3 issue... the other that it is a sprint issue Your review clearly indicates you are knocking Sprint... not the S3.
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Yeah, test out Sprints terrible service and then call me a liar. I paid $350 to leave them. That's how terrible it was. It's unusable. See for yourself..... Buddy
I intend to test Sprint's new LTE service. I will test it in an area (Waco) that is built out pretty completely for LTE, unlike Houston. I will use the new OTA update, designed to mitigate the temporary thin coverage problems you have experienced. I will continue to study the only site on the Internet (S4GRU) that is dedicated to tracking Sprint's network rollout and is publishing knowledgeable articles about the network, rather than emotional end-user rants in general GS3 forums. And I will also give credence to all the positive reports (mixed with the negative like yours) that I have read about Sprint LTE performance, with the objective of understanding what the specific problems, solutions and future plans are and why. And I will make a rational decision about the purchase within my 14-day trial cycle.
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Sprints roll out of LTE is going no differently than ATTs did less than 2 years ago.

This tower was just turned on in my area this week




And for the record....my super awesome galaxy note on ATT
Connected to LTE even



I can't wait to see what happens when Network Vision is complete.
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Man I'm so jealous! Can't wait until they light up LTE in Chi-town!
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Reading threads like these is always fun. So much emotion over a peice of metal. Sure, I have my SGS3 on Verizon but before that and for a while I was rocking the SGS2 on Sprint's 4GWimax which was destorying my D3 on Verizon in pretty much every catergory. Like many users have stated you need to check what the coverage is like in your area before you buy anything cell/wireless related. Also, it helps to have multiple phones if you can because the snapshots of "x carrier" is better than "carrier y" are mostly opinions and trolling. Sorryb the OP had a bad experience but for Sprint to not get the SGS3 would have been carrier suicide. Sometimes you have to work with what you have which is what Sprint is doing. Hell, I remember the complaing last year with Verizon and now those same people who jumped ship to ATT are complaining they can't get 4GLTE coast to coast yet.
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At&t was clocked at doing avg of 30 mbps. That's 10x as fast and the bill is $35 more a month. Verizon did 15mbps.
Speeds on 4G vary so much its incredible...you shouldn't put much stock in what others are seeing
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Good point. I'm just not gonna wait a year and not be able to use this awesome phone....
IMHO, you should have gone to T-Mobile first then. Your awesome speeds on your awesome phone are going to cost you an awesome amount of money in data overage fees as you blow through your cap in a week.

Sprint's getting a helluva lot of flack right now because they are in transition. Despite that, they are holding to their commitment of unlimited data and offering the best phones on the market at competitive prices. That's why stock analysts are giving them promising marks. Meanwhile Verizon & AT&T just head closer and closer toward their duopoly which suppresses the US cellular market and costs consumers a small fortune. It'll be interesting to revisit this topic in a year's time.

FWIW I gave up my Wimax S2 to my sister in exchange for an S3 and slightly lower monthly bill (went from individual to shared family plan with us splitting the cost). LTE is not due to be switched on in my market until the Fall. I mostly use WiFi and have an awesome cable broadband service to rely on. For a backup I picked up an unlocked GSM Nexus phone and am running that on T-Mobile's cheap $30/mo prepaid special (100 voice minutes/unlimited data & text).
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I may jump on that T-mobile deal as well if the LTE build out here in Chicago runs overscheule.
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IMHO, you should have gone to T-Mobile first then. Your awesome speeds on your awesome phone are going to cost you an awesome amount of money in data overage fees as you blow through your cap in a week.

Sprint's getting a helluva lot of flack right now because they are in transition. Despite that, they are holding to their commitment of unlimited data and offering the best phones on the market at competitive prices. That's why stock analysts are giving them promising marks. Meanwhile Verizon & AT&T just head closer and closer toward their duopoly which suppresses the US cellular market and costs consumers a small fortune. It'll be interesting to revisit this topic in a year's time.

FWIW I gave up my Wimax S2 to my sister in exchange for an S3 and slightly lower monthly bill (went from individual to shared family plan with us splitting the cost). LTE is not due to be switched on in my market until the Fall. I mostly use WiFi and have an awesome cable broadband service to rely on. For a backup I picked up an unlocked GSM Nexus phone and am running that on T-Mobile's cheap $30/mo prepaid special (100 voice minutes/unlimited data & text).
Tmobile? No thanks, they are never gonna have LTE. As for my plan, I get 3 gigs a month. That means I would have to burn through 100 megs a day to reach that cap. Not gonna happen. I use wifi at home.... Even if I didn't I still wouldn't use 3 gigs a month. Tmobile is a backyard operation. It's equivalent to the walmart generics when it comes to phones and service.
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Sprint is undergoing major changes, yes they've said this for years but the IDEN network is finally down, leaving more towers/resources for CDMA and LTE...The lack of throttling is great, yes coverage is spotty but overall I'm pleased. I used to be an authorized sprint dealer back before they bought nextel, now they REALLY sucked back then, compared to today, they are much much better...and actually improving steadily..
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Tmobile? No thanks, they are never gonna have LTE. As for my plan, I get 3 gigs a month. That means I would have to burn through 100 megs a day to reach that cap. Not gonna happen. I use wifi at home.... Even if I didn't I still wouldn't use 3 gigs a month. Tmobile is a backyard operation. It's equivalent to the walmart generics when it comes to phones and service.
When I had a Wimax phone I easily blew through 500mb a day just streaming video. It felt good knowing I could do so and not worry about metering my use to avoid a big scary bill at the end of the month.

As for T-Mobile having crappy phones, you don't have to buy their phones. That's precisely why I picked up the Galaxy Nexus. It feels liberating having an unlocked GSM phone. I know I can swap out the SIM card and use it for international service. Plus since I got the phone from Google I don't have any carrier bloatware and get OS updates from Google. I got Jellybean a few days after it was announced. My gleaming new Galaxy S3 from Sprint is still stuck with Ice Cream Sandwich. (I do not like to root and custom rom.)

In future I'll either buy unlocked phones from Google or look to the ebay/resale market.

Now from what I'm hearing on the network rollout front, Sprint is turning LTE on in my area next week. Including two towers at my beach place. I'll be stoked if I start getting 20-25mbps speeds at the beach. That'll be faster than my crappy Verizon DSL there.
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I intend to test Sprint's new LTE service. I will test it in an area (Waco) that is built out pretty completely for LTE, unlike Houston. I will use the new OTA update, designed to mitigate the temporary thin coverage problems you have experienced. I will continue to study the only site on the Internet (S4GRU) that is dedicated to tracking Sprint's network rollout and is publishing knowledgeable articles about the network, rather than emotional end-user rants in general GS3 forums. And I will also give credence to all the positive reports (mixed with the negative like yours) that I have read about Sprint LTE performance, with the objective of understanding what the specific problems, solutions and future plans are and why. And I will make a rational decision about the purchase within my 14-day trial cycle.
Just to follow up. I did apply the LG8 update to my Galaxy S III and spent half a day yesterday testing in Waco. It should be pretty representative of what the fully built out Sprint LTE network is like because Waco was deliberately built out as a Field Implementation Test area by Ericsson, the Sprint contractor there.

Overall, the results were very positive. I had 4G service almost everywhere I drove around the city and surrounding countryside. There were exceptions, mostly in rural areas outside of major highways, and in some downtown locations blocked by relatively large buildings. But I did try inside one building about four blocks from a Sprint LTE tower, and got snappy data performance.

So the LTE map on sprint.com is overly optimistic because it shows blanket coverage everywhere. But overall, my results were quite satisfying. If I lived in Waco with this phone and this carrier, I would be pleased.

BTW, I first tried to see what LTE service was like there before applying the L710VPLG8 OTA update, which optimizes the threshold signal level for connecting to LTE. But I got nothing even in strong coverage areas with fast LTE after the update. So anyone (like the OP on this rant thread) who did not try updated firmware would have a very wrong negative impression. (The EVO LTE model is supposed to be getting a similar update soon.)

This phone, and this network, are keepers. I just have to wait a bit to get LTE coverage in my hometown.

(I posted a fuller review with mapped sample results, signal strengths and speed tests at S4GRU.com, but it is in a sponsors-only forum there so I could compare sample sites to S4GRU's exclusive maps of Sprint towers.)
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Just to follow up. I did apply the LG8 update to my Galaxy S III and spent half a day yesterday testing in Waco. It should be pretty representative of what the fully built out Sprint LTE network is like because Waco was deliberately built out as a Field Implementation Test area by Ericsson, the Sprint contractor there.

Overall, the results were very positive. I had 4G service almost everywhere I drove around the city and surrounding countryside. There were exceptions, mostly in rural areas outside of major highways, and in some downtown locations blocked by relatively large buildings. But I did try inside one building about four blocks from a Sprint LTE tower, and got snappy data performance.

So the LTE map on sprint.com is overly optimistic because it shows blanket coverage everywhere. But overall, my results were quite satisfying. If I lived in Waco with this phone and this carrier, I would be pleased.

BTW, I first tried to see what LTE service was like there before applying the L710VPLG8 OTA update, which optimizes the threshold signal level for connecting to LTE. But I got nothing even in strong coverage areas with fast LTE after the update. So anyone (like the OP on this rant thread) who did not try updated firmware would have a very wrong negative impression. (The EVO LTE model is supposed to be getting a similar update soon.)

This phone, and this network, are keepers. I just have to wait a bit to get LTE coverage in my hometown.

(I posted a fuller review with mapped sample results, signal strengths and speed tests at S4GRU.com, but it is in a sponsors-only forum there so I could compare sample sites to S4GRU's exclusive maps of Sprint towers.)
Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to inform us all about your experiences. Very informative, to say the least.
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Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to inform us all about your experiences. Very informative, to say the least.
Thx. I wish I could post a link to my own test, but it is in a sponsor-only area at S4GRU. However, by coincidence another S4GRU member posted his own Speedtest results from Waco the next day in a public thread. I also have seen other positive results about Waco, and no negative reviews that I can recall, posted in several forums recently. I suspect this one from XDA was done on the I-35 corridor, where the signal is strongest. In my own test, with the advantage of knowing from S4GRU's exclusive maps where the Sprint towers are, I deliberately went looking for holes in the LTE coverage. And I did find some, but these were exceptions to coverage that was generally good.

The reason Waco is relevant is that this small city was deliberately built out early as an internal test area for Ericsson, Sprint's contractor in the region. So the coverage should be more representative of what Sprint's LTE network will look like when it is complete. By contrast, most early anecdotal reports (positive and negative) have come from Sprint's first officially "launched" cities including Houston, DFW, San Antonio, Atlanta and Kansas City. But they launched with a small fraction percent of their towers ready, and are still being fleshed out.

The other big factor is that the LTE-capable handsets are new, and Sprint learned the hard way that these phones needed tuning to fix the threshold signal level where they would downshift from LTE to 3G service, so handsets running the early firmware could only hold an LTE signal that was very strong. This obviously magnified the problem of the thin coverage in launch cities. Those firmware updates are still in the pipeline for some.
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Sprint is undergoing major changes, yes they've said this for years but the IDEN network is finally down, leaving more towers/resources for CDMA and LTE...The lack of throttling is great, yes coverage is spotty but overall I'm pleased. I used to be an authorized sprint dealer back before they bought nextel, now they REALLY sucked back then, compared to today, they are much much better...and actually improving steadily..
Just a quick correction. IDEN isn't down. Not until 2013.
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Just a quick correction. IDEN isn't down. Not until 2013.
Think of it as a rolling project. As LTE towers go up IDEN towers come down, with completion scheduled for 2013.
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Think of it as a rolling project. As LTE towers go up IDEN towers come down, with completion scheduled for 2013.
Oh believe me, I'm well aware of that.. considering I still have ~ 30 devices that run on iDEN. Tehe. ;-)
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