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Old August 23rd, 2012, 10:45 PM   #51 (permalink)
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My bill is $90 after tax and insurance. Single line.

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hi ya ben,

total typo.. it should have read.. "I fell for your trick".
which i did think it was a trick, because i tried it.

in the "text to", i put in "google"...
tabbed to next area to type in message/question/inquiry .. but errored out with not a valid number.. tried google voice and my sprint text app.

dont get it, why it does not work for me.

Cool, dan. :-)

And, good luck with that google text service. It's fast and handy.. hope you can get it working on your phone.
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This is the best description I've seen and most accurate.

I pay approximately $185 (including a corporate discount) for 3 lines. Same 1500 minute plan (landlines), but I also have insurance $8 for 2 phones.

For the people that are doubting the "unlimited" calling on the $69.99 plan (+$10 for smartphones), it actually is unlimited for mobile-to-mobile calls:

This is the formal description:


On that same $79.99 plan, the only thing that is NOT unlimited is calling to a landline or 800 number, from 7am-6:59pm, which uses the 450 minutes. Anytime from 7pm-659am is unlimited, including weekends, regardless of calling a mobile phone or land line or 800 number.

Now, if you were to compare all of those things with what is offered on the other providers, there's absolutely no way the pricing matches up. Sprint will be cheaper every time.
Unless you go to metro and pay $55 for unlimited all. If you add lines it's $50 a line so it would be $150 for 3 lines. Taxes and fees included, no corporate discount.
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Old August 24th, 2012, 05:34 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Now that T-Mobile's going unlimited data too, it'll make for an interesting contest in the mobile market.

In this corner you have your smaller unlimited data networks...
They've been declared "dead" and "obsolete" by the industry experts, yet refuse to quit. Sprint has posted a financial loss and totally changed their direction in the broadband wireless sphere (dumping Nextel and Wimax), but their stock went up as financial gurus bet on their "Network Vision" philosophy. Customers rewarded them with the highest marks in customer service just this summer.
Meanwhile T-Mobile was on the mat, down for the count, about to sell out completely to the heavier fighter AT&T. T-Mo's supporters cried foul but knew their days were numbered. And yet before the Referee could reach 10, the judges came in at the last minute and called a halt to the fight. AT&T may be a champ but T-Mo's lawyers got the better end of the "pay for play" deal. with a cash injection and a boatload of new spectrum, T-Mo is back in the game to win it.

vs.

In this corner we have the reigning spectrum champions Verizon & AT&T.
You know them best from their former days as Ma Bell, now separate by Federal decree but still acting like kissing cousins/digital clones. They have the nationwide network to spare, but you'll pay for the privilege to use it. Data is capped, phones are loaded with bloat, but hey, you'll always have a signal. Champ AT&T garnered years of success with an exclusive deal to carry the darling of the tech industry (iPhone). Verizon has a phone for every person and animal on Earth. Both hold their customers with grandfathered unlimited data plans even though they'd rather dump those loyal folks in favor of the new "data share" plans. Yes they nickled and dimed their customers for years with texting plans. Now they will do it using Facetime and Twitter.

Who will win? Tune in this time next year.
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The fight wobt be over anytime soon.

Positions on the leaderboard may be shuffeled, but there wont be a winner.


I thoroughly enjoyed that post though
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in the "text to", i put in "google"...
The letters "google," as opposed to the dial pad numbers corresponding to "google" (466453)?

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dont get it, why it does not work for me.
Because the text string "google" isn't a valid number?

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apparently sprint has terrible intel on sprint. the link i posted is to their company site.

the unlimited all plan is $109 with smartphone fee.

Which isn't anywhere close to the $150 someone posted above. He prob has some stupid $9.95 recurring charges he hasn't looked into on his book from third party app scams or those texting scams. I get them sometimes and Sprint will credit you and block the charges. I pay less than $100 with my discounts for unlimited everything.
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why use 411? when you have unlimited data?

use the internet search functions. so many options
example:
I like to use google maps.. and search for business / services that I need in my area. get phones...
Lol...no way I could explain that to family members I pay for...hahaha...too complicated.
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Unless you go to metro and pay $55 for unlimited all. If you add lines it's $50 a line so it would be $150 for 3 lines. Taxes and fees included, no corporate discount.
Let's talk when metro isn't roaming on other providers' towers. I'm not really comparing metro, virgin, or any other provider that doesn't use its own towers.
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I have 5 lines and the 1500min unl data and text,my bill after taxes and 22% corp disc is $233 ,only 3out of the 5 lines got the $10premium data surcharge on.
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 09:24 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Let's talk when metro isn't roaming on other providers' towers. I'm not really comparing metro, virgin, or any other provider that doesn't use its own towers.
Metro does have it's own towers for their home areas but they do roam on other towers for their extended home area.

I don't see why that would matter though.
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Metro does have it's own towers for their home areas but they do roam on other towers for their extended home area.

I don't see why that would matter though.
It wouldn't, if the amount of towers even equaled t-mobile or sprint, but they don't, so metro doesn't charge for call or data roaming?
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For extended home area(sprint) no. For travel talk(verizon) yes.
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I officially take back anything nice I had to say about Sprint.

I have 3G speeds that aren't even usable. I have a super awesome phone that is completely crippled because Sprint can't and won't get its act together.

Customer service is extremely friendly and incompetent. A Customer Service Supervisor gave me an email address and told me to use it in a browser to access a website to look at towers in my area. She had no clue what a URL was. And she eventually transfered me to some trucking company and never did give me a proper URL. Also my 3G speeds here at work (my original complaint) are still no better than dial-up was circa 1997.

Unlimited data means nothing if you can't even use data. Don't get fooled or tricked into signing a contract for 2 years with a corporation that doesn't care at all about their customers. Sprint couldn't care less about what long-time loyal customers like me are experiencing while they "upgrade" their network. They keep talking about a future time where they will have the best network on the planet. Meanwhile we customers in most markets have seen 3G simply die a slow and agonizing death.

Find out what provider has a network that actually operates as advertized. Pay the price that they ask because it will be worth it. Sprint is cheap and unlimited. The problem is that the service is cheap and the problems on their network are unlimited.

Sometimes you get what you pay for.

Buyer beware.
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I officially take back anything nice I had to say about Sprint.

I have 3G speeds that aren't even usable. I have a super awesome phone that is completely crippled because Sprint can't and won't get its act together.

Customer service is extremely friendly and incompetent. A Customer Service Supervisor gave me an email address and told me to use it in a browser to access a website to look at towers in my area. She had no clue what a URL was. And she eventually transfered me to some trucking company and never did give me a proper URL. Also my 3G speeds here at work (my original complaint) are still no better than dial-up was circa 1997.

Unlimited data means nothing if you can't even use data. Don't get fooled or tricked into signing a contract for 2 years with a corporation that doesn't care at all about their customers. Sprint couldn't care less about what long-time loyal customers like me are experiencing while they "upgrade" their network. They keep talking about a future time where they will have the best network on the planet. Meanwhile we customers in most markets have seen 3G simply die a slow and agonizing death.

Find out what provider has a network that actually operates as advertized. Pay the price that they ask because it will be worth it. Sprint is cheap and unlimited. The problem is that the service is cheap and the problems on their network are unlimited.

Sometimes you get what you pay for.

Buyer beware.
Maybe it's non-functional where you live, but that isn't the case everywhere. I think we've all read enough of your relatively long rants to understand your frustration with Sprint.
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Maybe it's non-functional where you live, but that isn't the case everywhere. I think we've all read enough of your relatively long rants to understand your frustration with Sprint.
Agreed. Hitting 4 or 5+ threads in the same forum, all within minutes of each other with essentially the same rant is a little ridiculous.
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If the t-mobile signal or metro PCS signal were stronger at my house, I'd consider moving over:

Deutsche Telekom in T-Mobile USA-MetroPCS merger talks | Reuters
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If the t-mobile signal or metro PCS signal were stronger at my house, I'd consider moving over:

Deutsche Telekom in T-Mobile USA-MetroPCS merger talks | Reuters
I'm kind of curious how that would even work since MetroPCS is a CDMA carrier. Maybe they only want to acquire them for a merger due to their LTE footprint, but even then.. the footprint is extremely small
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I'm kind of curious how that would even work since MetroPCS is a CDMA carrier. Maybe they only want to acquire them for a merger due to their LTE footprint, but even then.. the footprint is extremely small
Just found this article that explains it a 'bit:
MetroPCS: LTE Could Roam With Verizon, AT&T | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

So, rather than being a "roaming" partner with T-mobile, it'll be under the T-mobile banner. Maybe they split it up similar to how Sprint owns Virgin Mobile and Virgin Mobile is the "pre-paid" branch of Sprint. So MetroPCS gets turned into "T-Metro Pre-paid Mobile"?
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Funny you should mention that. I'd essentially decided to take a pass on the whole smartphone thing (probably still will) when you mentioned Best Buy still had Photons. That got me re-interested, but, somehow, I ended-up looking at T-Mobile. I'd originally dismissed TMO due to (assumed) lack of coverage. Imagine my surprise to find they apparently have better coverage in my area than Sprint--and possibly better than "AT&T".

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That's great, Jim! It'd be a good decision to move over, especially with the merger with Metro on the table, and their bringing back unlimited data (without caps).
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That's great, Jim! It'd be a good decision to move over, especially with the merger with Metro on the table, and their bringing back unlimited data (without caps).
They have a quality selection of devices too.
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Eh *shrug* Like I said: Probably just going to continue to take a pass on the whole smartphone thing, after all. I've more compelling reasons not to get a smartphone than I do to get one. It's not certain, nor is my carrier choice, which is why I'm still hanging out and commenting, but if you were a betting man the safe money would be on us not doing it.

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Totally understandable. Everybody has to make decisions based on their personal needs and uses, which is part of the reason why I understand that there are so many iPhone loyalists. For them, it suits their needs better than Android does. In your case, it has seemed like there wasn't a truly compelling reason for you to make the smartphone switch. I know many people that still haven't wanted to make that jump.
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it is a natural tech progression... i think everyone will have one.. sometime in the near future.

eventually it will be just a cheap to make a low-level smartphone as it is to make a dumb phone.

plain phones will disappear.
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it is a natural tech progression... i think everyone will have one.. sometime in the near future.

eventually it will be just a cheap to make a low-level smartphone as it is to make a dumb phone.

plain phones will disappear.
Oh, I don't know about that. Take my mother, for instance. She blocks texting on her "dumb phone." She thinks texting is useless and annoying. She thinks that smart phones are too small to be useful for her for surfing the Internet.

She loves her iPad. She uses it for Internet surfing and for reading books, mainly.

I don't see her getting a smart phone anytime soon. She will fight it tooth and nail. For her a phone is a phone. It's not a toy or a computer.

I assume that there will continue to be many people who think like her for the time being and long into the future.
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Oh, I don't know about that. Take my mother, for instance. She blocks texting on her "dumb phone." She thinks texting is useless and annoying. She thinks that smart phones are too small to be useful for her for surfing the Internet.

She loves her iPad. She uses it for Internet surfing and for reading books, mainly.

I don't see her getting a smart phone anytime soon. She will fight it tooth and nail. For her a phone is a phone. It's not a toy or a computer.

I assume that there will continue to be many people who think like her for the time being and long into the future.
Once my generation (Gen X) gets to be senior citizen age, that's when I think majority of people will be on Smartphones. That's still 30 years away, so I think

Only thing that could add to a faster integration to smartphones are inventions like this one...

Meet the PhoneEasy 740, the world's simplest Android phone!

The Baby Boomer Generation is the fastest growing generation using smartphones, but that definitely doesn't mean all of them are enjoying it.
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I'd give it 5 years. 10 max
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but once it cost the same to make a dumb phone or a low-level smartphone. it will be within 5 yrs. why would manufactures make dumb phones???

eventually.. there will be no NEW dumb phones being made.
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Ooh...looks like Sprint's fighting for it:
Report: Sprint ready to engage with T-Mobile in bidding war for MetroPCS

I didn't even realize that they offered 8 billion at the beginning of the year, but it was blocked by the board, internally! This is going to get interesting. Apparently, T-mobile is going to "best" any Sprint offer, but maybe the board will think twice and let Sprint outbid T-mobile.
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Because having a "smart"phone on a wireless network costs twice as much, or more, than a non-"smart"phone?


Then I guess we won't have wireless at all. We are not going to pay $120-$150/mo. for wireless service. Period.

You read that right: "Not." Up until now it was "Maybe..." Now it's "not."

This thread actually encouraged me to stay away from wireless data entirely. Some might say, or at least think "You don't know what you're missing." Yeah, I do. And, no offense, but I see what becoming addicted to it has done to peoples' sense.

No thanks.

I'll hang around for rebuttals, flames, expressions of injured dignity, etc. , then I'll be taking my leave. At this point I don't think I'll have anything further to contribute to any of the "smart"phone forums, as I'll not be partaking.

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So. What is your issue with smartphones??
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I could honestly do without a data plan. A WiFi only smart phone that hap a cheap monthly payment because it didn't use carrier data would be just fine.

Granted, that's not the same wants as the user quoted, but to each his own
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Issues. Plural.

They're expensive. They're fragile. They require overly expensive data plans. No local sync or desktop apps. Poorly-integrated apps. Poor battery life. Poor reliability. Questionable software quality/security.

That's all I can think of, off hand...

Oh, yeah... These things have unsubsidized prices in the hundreds-of-dollars range. How many other things can you buy that cost that much and are considered technologically obsolete within a year or two... or less?

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LOL I beg to differ.

Having suffered through old style PDAs and phones like the Palm Treo / Centro, having local backups / data that were a pain in the rear to sync, and use, there is no way I'd go back.

Smart phones *can* be fragile, but you can use otterbox to keep them protected, or buy ruggedized phones to begin with. Some of them do require expensive data plans, but not all. T-mobile being a prime example where you can take a smartphone and just use calling plans with it. Apps are fairly well integrated, not sure how you measure that...in many cases they are superior to PC based software.

Battery life do need to improve, but my S3 can go 2 days without charging, and that's with medium use. That's pretty impressive considering what I use it for. Reliability has been outstanding with my Samsung S2 / S3. Security is also far better than PCs.

So many of these perceptions really aren't reality, and you could apply them to any technology, such as tablets, laptops, or even home networks.

Once you do go smartphone, and provided you have the desire to learn new technology, it is life changing. I know of no one who switched to a smartphone, used it for a month or so, and went back to a dumb phone. None.

But if you're happy with where you're at, that's fine too. You are just missing out on some killer services that many others find useful, but like they say - you don't know what you're missing until you've had it.

For me, some basic things I take for granted now are reading product reviews while out shopping for things, price comparisons, finding the closest store for a particular need, finding the hours of the store, all things I used to have to call up a family member who's at home - asking them to fire up the PC, and do those things remotely for me, which was a pain in the rear.

Smartphones provide a new level of self sufficiency that is simply amazing, but of course can be misused / abused as well. I hardly text, but I do a lot of video chat with family when I'm traveling for work, plus GPS navigation for hotels / restaurants, and many many other cool things.
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Ditto SEMIjim. Enjoy your non-smartphone.

I have one friend left who refuses to get a smartphone as well. He was the last person I knew to get a cellphone as well. He's a little strange, lacks some social skills (doesn't have many friends), but he seems happy enough to be going to bars all the time to watch football and drink beers. He tried a "feature phone" thinking it was a smart phone, LOL, for about a day and returned it, complaining he couldn't just flip open his phone and answer a call.

Funny enough CNN just hard an article today about "In Defense of My Stupid Phone"... funny article.

Smart phones, at the end of the day, are just another tool to help people organize / manage their lives. Great tools, but obviously not for everyone.
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I just hope that, if they do become the majority share holders, they keep prices and plans the same and don't follow the other providers' lead:
Japan’s SoftBank reportedly in talks to acquire Sprint [Update: Sprint confirms]
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I wouldn't mind a slight increase in pricing, but that is only if SoftBank is able to hasten Network Vision.
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I wouldn't mind a slight increase in pricing, but that is only if SoftBank is able to hasten Network Vision.
I agree, but it depends on how "slight" that increase would be, on a per customer basis. Ultimately, if Softbank's pockets can allow for Sprint a more rapid development on Network Vision, the rewards could be great for both Sprint customers and Sprint. Only time will tell.
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I agree, but it depends on how "slight" that increase would be, on a per customer basis. Ultimately, if Softbank's pockets can allow for Sprint a more rapid development on Network Vision, the rewards could be great for both Sprint customers and Sprint. Only time will tell.
I was thinking something like $5-10 (maximum) USD per plan.
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I was thinking something like $5-10 (maximum) USD per plan.
I'd be ok with that, if it meant that SoftBank's bankroll would push out Sprint's Network Vision faster (and hopefully, even expand further than what Sprint originally projected).
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I'd be ok with that, if it meant that SoftBank's bankroll would push out Sprint's Network Vision faster (and hopefully, even expand further than what Sprint originally projected).
Theoretically, there's no reason to think why that couldn't occur. I would assume they would make a serious run at MetroPCS at that time too since they'll have additional backing financially.

I just wouldn't want any structural changes to Sprint outside of SoftBank becoming a majority stakeholder. None of their execs should be coming over here unless it's just to oversee finances.
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Sprint/Softbank just bought a majority stake in Clearwire and since Metro is CDMA as well I would think it would be a good fit for Softbank to buy them as well.

I believe Metro also has LTE as well.
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Because having a "smart"phone on a wireless network costs twice as much, or more, than a non-"smart"phone?


Then I guess we won't have wireless at all. We are not going to pay $120-$150/mo. for wireless service. Period.

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No thanks.

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Nothing, is good about Sprint. Anyway!
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Many of us will beg to differ with you on that.
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