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Originally Posted by dan330
if i stream 150gb/month of netflix on my phone...not tethering.. with sprint... for 4 months... it is unlimited!
will they cancel my contract???
There is no way to really know that for sure.
Excessive roaming..yes it's been proven can result in contract term..
Stealing Hot Spot...yes it has been proven can result in contract term (and despite popular belief..is traceable on at least Sprint and ATT. I've been hit with warning letters on both)
In the case above, regardless of his justification..he was stealing services he was not paying for in my opinion.
"Specific Terms & Restrictions On Using Data Services
In addition to the rules for using all of our other Services, unless we identify the Service or Device that you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, wireless routers, Data Link, etc.), you can't use our data Services: (1) with server devices or host computer applications or other systems that drive continuous, heavy traffic or data sessions; (2) as a substitute or backup for private lines or frame relay connections; or (3) for any other unintended use as we determine in our sole discretion. We reserve the right to limit, suspend, or constrain any heavy, continuous data usage that adversely impacts our networks performances or hinders access to our networks. If your Services include web or data access, you also can't use your Device as a modem for computers or other equipment, unless we identify the Service or Device you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, with "phone as modem" plans, Sprint Mobile Broadband card plans, wireless router plans, etc.)."
i have free tethering on my phone.. but only use it during emergencies...
i think i have used it 3 times last month... for less than 10mbs... to test it when I setup my new phone/root/rom.
over the last year... on my old phone... i used free tethering... maybe once a month.
well, maybe because the sprint mobile data on 3G is self-torture.
i dont think i would want to pay for that.. $29/month.
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Excessive roaming..yes it's been proven can result in contract term..
Stealing Hot Spot...yes it has been proven can result in contract term (and despite popular belief..is traceable on at least Sprint and ATT. I've been hit with warning letters on both)
In the case above, regardless of his justification..he was stealing services he was not paying for in my opinion.
"Specific Terms & Restrictions On Using Data Services
In addition to the rules for using all of our other Services, unless we identify the Service or Device that you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, wireless routers, Data Link, etc.), you can't use our data Services: (1) with server devices or host computer applications or other systems that drive continuous, heavy traffic or data sessions; (2) as a substitute or backup for private lines or frame relay connections; or (3) for any other unintended use as we determine in our sole discretion. We reserve the right to limit, suspend, or constrain any heavy, continuous data usage that adversely impacts our networks performances or hinders access to our networks. If your Services include web or data access, you also can't use your Device as a modem for computers or other equipment, unless we identify the Service or Device you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, with "phone as modem" plans, Sprint Mobile Broadband card plans, wireless router plans, etc.)."
And from many stories I've heard from other providers, Sprint isn't even the harshest about stuff like this. I love when people come in to make snarky remarks, but in looking at the bigger picture, it served no purpose except to simply badmouth a company.
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gotta be honest.. it funny to me.. the sales rep (when i bought the phone) was even telling me to root and get rid of home internet... i thought "sounds shady" but after Sprint decided to add $40 to my plan it didn't sound unreasonable.. and yeah.. i just joined the forums to learn how to root, never had anything interesting to post till now I knew they were watching my internet usage and i wanted them to.. its protest to their "we can add to your bill and you cant do anything about it" attitude that's at topic.. so now im off sprint and onto unlimited data (with tethering) at T-Mobile :-) wish me luck
Yeah, that was $10 per phone, and you got caught pirating their hotspot service, and this is the second forum (the other was the thread you necro'd in the Evo 4G forum) where you're blaming Sprint.
this is the same site where i learned to how to root.. and now everyone is all "your a bad guy" is this site managed my sprint employees? I feel like i have found a whole new world of people here.. what is necro'd, infraction, and how in the world do you get 30,000 post.. that's crazier than 150gb... and does anyone here laugh
Responding to the Thread Author concern: Oh, by the way...I didn't spend time reading the thread in its entirety.
I'm quite sure you won't have a problem with Sprint watching NetFlix. I've been watching NetFlix for awhile now - haven't had any problems thus far. Just make sure to be on the right track.
Hopefully Sprint doesn't go behind their words. "Sprint is the only company with 'true' unlimited data."
this is the same site where i learned to how to root.. and now everyone is all "your a bad guy" is this site managed my sprint employees? I feel like i have found a whole new world of people here.. what is necro'd, infraction, and how in the world do you get 30,000 post.. that's crazier than 150gb... and does anyone here laugh
Yeah, we do laugh and have tons of fun here...
The place is called the fun place. You can find all sorts of fun over @ The Lounge.
But what we don't like...is piracy and dishonesty. Other than doing this... We are all fun.
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And FYI sprint doesn't care how much cell data u use I know a family who use 75 GB a month in cell data with NO tethering its when u try to take a privalage in rooting and tethering and abuse it lke that behind sprints back is when u get the heave hoo off of the now network
Sprint just cancelled my family plan cause i rooted my evo and used wifi teather.. given sprint didn't know that, they just seen my data jump to 150gB a month for 3 months and made assumptions.. what it was is netflix :-D i would just stream movies all day while i did homework... I payed for unlimited data and wasn't using 5gB in the beginning but then Sprint decided THEY wanted new charges of $10/phone saying "well, you have a smart phone so we want more money".. i had 4 phones on my plan so $40 in new charges for being a regular user.. so i rooted and got my moneys worth out of it :-) So they are not "truly unlimited data" that's just non-sense gimmicks to sucker customers... if you don't believe me, test me.. don't teather your phone just stream netflix as much as possible (6+ hours/day) .. they'll cancel your service too... I'm actually glad to get away from sprint cause they never have the cool phones.. no LTE service (except Texas) even though they sell LTE phones.. so your buying LTE phones that can only use 3g :-( it's like buying a race car with no tires (waste of money)... And while i'm at it, whats the point of LTE if you cant use it?? ..."you can download faster, stream faster, everything faster but [small print] you can only stream 1 movie a month"... again, it's like having the race car but can't leave the drive way... limits, limits, limits
And sprint has lte here in Chicago as well as in 5o markets haha
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this is the same site where i learned to how to root.. and now everyone is all "your a bad guy" is this site managed my sprint employees? I feel like i have found a whole new world of people here.. what is necro'd, infraction, and how in the world do you get 30,000 post.. that's crazier than 150gb... and does anyone here laugh
We may have shown you how to root but we didn't encourage you to stream 150 GB and then blame everyone else.
I'm not a Sprint employee and we're not affiliated with any maker or carrier.
I'm just one of the guys who may face a higher bill if the data piracy doesn't stop.
so you guys are saying its ok for a company to add more to your bill, with out your consent, without your knowledge and tell you "your under contract" when you tell them your dissatisfied... and i didnt even use the unlimited data (maybe 5gb) until they upped my bill.. so when i fight back its wrong?? I cant rack up 30,000 post defending myself against all you guys but the thread was titled "whats soo good about sprint".. and the point is they're not... no lte (except Texas and Chicago), up your bill when they cant make their stock holders happy... and did you really pull a christen card on me "But what we don't like...is piracy and dishonesty." Seriously?? this site didnt encourage me but had no problem explicitly showing me how.. that make you accomplice if your gonna go all "im better than you" on me.. like you haven't pirated mp3's and your late night dirty movies... but you can cast the first stone.. so you guys would side against anonymous for standing up for themselves and fighting back... i diffidently see things different from you guys... if your trying to say i'm wrong cause your forum is vulnerable to lawsuits then i understand but to say its ok for a larger entity to push people around isn't right either... i know you guys will all jump on the band wagon and post well thought out condemnations but will some one inform me on the lingo, troll, necro'd, and how do you net an infraction (charge more to my bill )
so you guys are saying its ok for a company to add more to your bill, with out your consent, without your knowledge and tell you "your under contract" when you tell them your dissatisfied... And i didnt even use the unlimited data (maybe 5gb) until they upped my bill.. So when i fight back its wrong?? I cant rack up 30,000 post defending myself against all you guys but the thread was titled "whats soo good about sprint".. And the point is they're not... No lte (except texas and chicago), up your bill when they cant make their stock holders happy... And did you really pull a christen card on me "but what we don't like...is piracy and dishonesty." seriously?? This site didnt encourage me but had no problem explicitly showing me how.. That make you accomplice if your gonna go all "im better than you" on me.. Like you haven't pirated mp3's and your late night dirty movies... But you can cast the first stone.. So you guys would side against anonymous for standing up for themselves and fighting back... I diffidently see things different from you guys... If your trying to say i'm wrong cause your forum is vulnerable to lawsuits then i understand but to say its ok for a larger entity to push people around isn't right either... I know you guys will all jump on the band wagon and post well thought out condemnations but will some one inform me on the lingo, troll, necro'd, and how do you net an infraction (charge more to my bill )
again where is the evidence of this????? And furthermore every company raises prices with or without your consent. And plus like we all said u was wrong period no matter how u try to spin this on us. U wanna use that much data get the terthering plan.
so you guys are saying its ok for a company to add more to your bill, with out your consent, without your knowledge and tell you "your under contract" when you tell them your dissatisfied... and i didnt even use the unlimited data (maybe 5gb) until they upped my bill.. so when i fight back its wrong?? I cant rack up 30,000 post defending myself against all you guys but the thread was titled "whats soo good about sprint".. and the point is they're not... no lte (except Texas and Chicago), up your bill when they cant make their stock holders happy... and did you really pull a christen card on me "But what we don't like...is piracy and dishonesty." Seriously?? this site didnt encourage me but had no problem explicitly showing me how.. that make you accomplice if your gonna go all "im better than you" on me.. like you haven't pirated mp3's and your late night dirty movies... but you can cast the first stone.. so you guys would side against anonymous for standing up for themselves and fighting back... i diffidently see things different from you guys... if your trying to say i'm wrong cause your forum is vulnerable to lawsuits then i understand but to say its ok for a larger entity to push people around isn't right either... i know you guys will all jump on the band wagon and post well thought out condemnations but will some one inform me on the lingo, troll, necro'd, and how do you net an infraction (charge more to my bill )
First thing, I wasn't implying that you per sey is doing the above mentioned.
Relax. Take it easy, we are not your enemy...
There are a few things I don't like about Sprint, too. But I'm sure when we but heads on the phone -- I'm sure they don't like some of my chosen words. Haha.
Come join us over @ the Android Video Vault. I'm sure we can have some virtual Pepsi and pizza.
Click on the forbidden link in my signature. <> smile <>
so you guys are saying its ok for a company to add more to your bill, with out your consent, without your knowledge and tell you "your under contract" when you tell them your dissatisfied... and i didnt even use the unlimited data (maybe 5gb) until they upped my bill.. so when i fight back its wrong?? I cant rack up 30,000 post defending myself against all you guys but the thread was titled "whats soo good about sprint".. and the point is they're not... no lte (except Texas and Chicago), up your bill when they cant make their stock holders happy... and did you really pull a christen card on me "But what we don't like...is piracy and dishonesty." Seriously?? this site didnt encourage me but had no problem explicitly showing me how.. that make you accomplice if your gonna go all "im better than you" on me.. like you haven't pirated mp3's and your late night dirty movies... but you can cast the first stone.. so you guys would side against anonymous for standing up for themselves and fighting back... i diffidently see things different from you guys... if your trying to say i'm wrong cause your forum is vulnerable to lawsuits then i understand but to say its ok for a larger entity to push people around isn't right either... i know you guys will all jump on the band wagon and post well thought out condemnations but will some one inform me on the lingo, troll, necro'd, and how do you net an infraction (charge more to my bill )
You resurrected a thread that no one had posted in the Evo 4G root section for 16 months. That's called necro'ing as in necromancy - to bring back from the dead.
And while you may believe that we all pirate stuff, I'm a software developer and piracy laws protect me. I have pirated zero media in my life. Zero.
And - I have used my wireless tether twice - once in a medical emergency to help a doctor. Total of 5 minutes altogether. And each time, I got a text message from Sprint telling me that if I'd like, they have a nice tethering plan.
And - wireless tether can be used for your legal, paid-for hotspot.
I root my phone. Back when Sprint said they'd cancel warranties for that, I contacted the CEO and insisted that policy made no sense. And I told him who I was and that I wanted my warranty cancelled immediately so we could have a nice chat. Others did as well - result - Sprint stopped coming down on rooters because a group of us explained our legal and reasonable needs for rooting.
Lots of people do not pirate stuff. Lots of people really, really hate it because it's either a contract violation (in your case), or it's downright illegal (pirating music and videos).
So, your concept that we're all pirates, while a typical viewpoint held by pirates, simply is not true.
In one of your earlier posts, you said that the store employee put you up to it and you knew that it sounded shady.
There. All done. You knew it was wrong.
But, not liking your bill, you decided that you'd get even by stealing.
And then you got caught.
Don't call us hypocrites or liars or accomplices to your bad acts - we're not.
And the way you net an infraction is to violate the rules of this forum that you agreed to when you signed up here. Attached to those rules is an explanation of our infraction system.
I hate to prattle on about my issues with the Sprint Network but...
Things actually got even worse. Not only is service very unacceptable at work in Berkeley, where just today I was down to 12kpbs down, the service has degraded to the point of being almost unusable at home in Oakland too.
I did call Sprint yesterday because I was finally entirely fed up with it. I have stopped calling lately since I have become very unhopeful that calling makes any difference. But I draw the line when I cannot even count on my only link to the Internet at home when I need to access my study materials online. It looks like I'll be forced to go to a family member's house where they have cable Internet so that I can actually study now.
I did get a very friendly CSR. She was very understanding and... completely unable to help me. She was only able to report that a few others in my neighborhood were complaining yet not enough to keep a ticket open. And I found out from her that I have been accessing the network through a neighbor's Airave. So basically if one of my neighbors (who must be on my floor of my apartment building) didn't have an Airave I may not be receiving a signal at all.
I report this because I have to let others know who may be contemplating a switch to Sprint that as a 13+ year Sprint Customer, I have never seen this complete and total degradation of service in any area where I've worked or lived. I've had Sprint in Chicago, Davenport in Iowa, and here in the Bay Area in California.
Things started to go downhill at the beginning of last year. Now things have gotten so bad that I may have to actually bite the bullet and jump ship. I really hate to leave Sprint because it's cheap and I have such a long history with Sprint. I'd really like to stay. But, I'm really sounding like a broken record and a whiney jerk around here reporting the degradation of the network in Oakland and Berkeley as they attempt to implement Network Vision. I have a tiny bit of hope that things will get much better since others here in other markets where Network Vision has started to saturate the network have reported that things seem to be awesome once a saturation point has been reached.
Now I really need to to a cost / benefit analysis to see if I can really stay with Sprint the 6 months to a year that it will likely take to see a real improvement in the network here. I won't be doing this for another two weeks because I'm simply too busy with studying. But once that test is over, I'm going to have to take a long hard look at who I'm using as my access point for the Internet and who I use to meet my personal communication needs. Unfortunately, it's becoming painfully obvious that I need to look at other options besides Sprint if I want consistent and reliable service.
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I hate to prattle on about my issues with the Sprint Network but...
Things actually got even worse. Not only is service very unacceptable at work in Berkeley, where just today I was down to 12kpbs down, the service has degraded to the point of being almost unusable at home in Oakland too.
Sprint is working on most all of their towers to implement Network Vision. Many people over on S4GRU are reporting that the service got worse right before the service got much better.
Sprint is working on most all of their towers to implement Network Vision. Many people over on S4GRU are reporting that the service got worse right before the service got much better.
I hate to prattle on about my issues with the Sprint Network but...
Things actually got even worse. Not only is service very unacceptable at work in Berkeley, where just today I was down to 12kpbs down, the service has degraded to the point of being almost unusable at home in Oakland too.
I did call Sprint yesterday because I was finally entirely fed up with it. I have stopped calling lately since I have become very unhopeful that calling makes any difference. But I draw the line when I cannot even count on my only link to the Internet at home when I need to access my study materials online. It looks like I'll be forced to go to a family member's house where they have cable Internet so that I can actually study now.
I did get a very friendly CSR. She was very understanding and... completely unable to help me. She was only able to report that a few others in my neighborhood were complaining yet not enough to keep a ticket open. And I found out from her that I have been accessing the network through a neighbor's Airave. So basically if one of my neighbors (who must be on my floor of my apartment building) didn't have an Airave I may not be receiving a signal at all.
I report this because I have to let others know who may be contemplating a switch to Sprint that as a 13+ year Sprint Customer, I have never seen this complete and total degradation of service in any area where I've worked or lived. I've had Sprint in Chicago, Davenport in Iowa, and here in the Bay Area in California.
Things started to go downhill at the beginning of last year. Now things have gotten so bad that I may have to actually bite the bullet and jump ship. I really hate to leave Sprint because it's cheap and I have such a long history with Sprint. I'd really like to stay. But, I'm really sounding like a broken record and a whiney jerk around here reporting the degradation of the network in Oakland and Berkeley as they attempt to implement Network Vision. I have a tiny bit of hope that things will get much better since others here in other markets where Network Vision has started to saturate the network have reported that things seem to be awesome once a saturation point has been reached.
Now I really need to to a cost / benefit analysis to see if I can really stay with Sprint the 6 months to a year that it will likely take to see a real improvement in the network here. I won't be doing this for another two weeks because I'm simply too busy with studying. But once that test is over, I'm going to have to take a long hard look at who I'm using as my access point for the Internet and who I use to meet my personal communication needs. Unfortunately, it's becoming painfully obvious that I need to look at other options besides Sprint if I want consistent and reliable service.
I'm in a similar situation of data speeds at work have passed the embarrassing point. I sometimes now roam on the way to work on a major freeway and dropped calls are becoming a major issue. The final straw for me is to talk at the house I feel like when cell phones first hit the market years ago where you had to be at a certain spot in a yoga like pose for service.
I plan to call them again tomorrow as I can understand upgrading and being patient but on the same token, I pay for services not being provided as they should. I keep thinking about making the switch to t mobile or prepaid for the cost savings but I'm starting to think that it may just be to get basic service.
I'm in a similar situation of data speeds at work have passed the embarrassing point. I sometimes now roam on the way to work on a major freeway and dropped calls are becoming a major issue. The final straw for me is to talk at the house I feel like when cell phones first hit the market years ago where you had to be at a certain spot in a yoga like pose for service.
I plan to call them again tomorrow as I can understand upgrading and being patient but on the same token, I pay for services not being provided as they should. I keep thinking about making the switch to t mobile or prepaid for the cost savings but I'm starting to think that it may just be to get basic service.
rob
Just to update...
I talked to Sprint and they confirmed that the tower closest to my work is being upgraded. I was assured that by Friday night all would be better but that didn't happen. If it isn't better by next week I'll follow up with them.
My other issues didn't have such a simple answer so I get to go have my phone checked out.
I talked to Sprint and they confirmed that the tower closest to my work is being upgraded. I was assured that by Friday night all would be better but that didn't happen. If it isn't better by next week I'll follow up with them.
My other issues didn't have such a simple answer so I get to go have my phone checked out.
rob
Still no service on the tower by work. They are now saying the 31st. I got mad and did the email Dan thing and got the best customer service with Sprint I've had. Honest answers not just bs. They also gave me a $60 credit for my inconvenience on the work tower.
I'm waiting to see when they flip the lte switch how it affects me as t mobiles value plan has really caught my eye being $50 cheaper than Sprint now.
Still no service on the tower by work. They are now saying the 31st. I got mad and did the email Dan thing and got the best customer service with Sprint I've had. Honest answers not just bs. They also gave me a $60 credit for my inconvenience on the work tower.
I'm waiting to see when they flip the lte switch how it affects me as t mobiles value plan has really caught my eye being $50 cheaper than Sprint now.
rob
What area is your work at? I'm in Hollywood (by Peterson Automotive Museum) and 3G/4G has been so bad lately that it takes forever to finally connect. Once it does, it lasts for a few minutes, but then cuts out again.
What area is your work at? I'm in Hollywood (by Peterson Automotive Museum) and 3G/4G has been so bad lately that it takes forever to finally connect. Once it does, it lasts for a few minutes, but then cuts out again.
I work at the southeastern corner of the 15 and 60. The tower with the issues is at the 15 and Limeonite.
As an update, sprint has now sent me an airave for the house which doesn't seem to be helping but I need to call their tech support back. I also emailed the Dan@sprint.com again to follow back up on the tower by my work. The tower works awesome after about 10pm but until then no data or texts and drop calls like mad.
The $80 unlimited plan includes mobile to mobile text and data, it include 450 to land line. The most you will pay after taxes is $105 a month and that depends on what star you live in,
The $80 unlimited plan includes mobile to mobile text and data, it include 450 to land line. The most you will pay after taxes is $105 a month and that depends on what star you live in,
hey mookie
if you can use sprint and make calls from another solar system.. for only $105 and get data service.. that is a hell of a deal.
I can barely get it here on Earth!
Here's a speed test update I ran the other day, just west of Chicago. Speeds seem to vary in the Chicago area, but was really surprised I was pulling down this kind of speed.
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Here's a speed test update I ran the other day, just west of Chicago. Speeds seem to vary in the Chicago area, but was really surprised I was pulling down this kind of speed.
That is impressive, but those kinds of speeds likely will not last once there is more traffic on the network. Personally, I don't care how high the speeds are as long as they are above 8 mb/s and consistent.
I have Sprint for many years and I thought the SERO was the most golden thing in the world!
Then last month I decide to can it while I have 5 months left and pay the $50 penalty to get out.
I been using T-mobile $30 plan with 5gb of data for about a month now. I like it alot. I strickly use VOIP. I been getting $100 refill card for $70 on ebay. I dont have to pay tax either.
And GSM is superior. My N4 is already unlock for world wide use and the Google Hotspot works! I do not even need it rooted!
I could not understand why those Sprint LTE phone would not work with 4G! I was in so much pain using a LTE phone on 3G network and while LTE still have alot spotty coverage.
I have Sprint for many years and I thought the SERO was the most golden thing in the world!
Then last month I decide to can it while I have 5 months left and pay the $50 penalty to get out.
I been using T-mobile $30 plan with 5gb of data for about a month now. I like it alot. I strickly use VOIP. I been getting $100 refill card for $70 on ebay. I dont have to pay tax either.
And GSM is superior. My N4 is already unlock for world wide use and the Google Hotspot works! I do not even need it rooted!
I am loving it!
I'm glad that you're enjoying your new service, but "superior" is subjective.
That is impressive, but those kinds of speeds likely will not last once there is more traffic on the network. Personally, I don't care how high the speeds are as long as they are above 8 mb/s and consistent.
This is why sprint won't have congestion problems. See how widespread sprint lte is to others so for instance if the tower by my house is full there are over 5 more in my vicinity that I can connect too. I c those speeds also
This is why sprint won't have congestion problems. See how widespread sprint lte is to others so for instance if the tower by my house is full there are over 5 more in my vicinity that I can connect too. I c those speeds also
Yep, I know. That is the purpose and function of Network Vision deployment. Cross-tower coverage to provide a dense network structure, unlike AT&T and Verizon who have only given their customers blanket coverage. Truthfully, the only thing I like about AT&T/VZW's LTE network is that they are both run on 10 MHz FDD LTE carriers on lower frequency spectrum (700 MHz).
I'm glad that you're enjoying your new service, but "superior" is subjective.
Yeah I have to agree. Tmo's earnings weren't exactly stellar in Q4. Earnings dropped 15% and they lost almost 500,000 customers. Obviously not as bad as Sprint losing 1 million customers, but considering the size of Tmo's marketshare that is still a significant number.
I like what T Mobile is doing with it's restructuring of their pricing plans, and the fact that they're going away from the subsidizing model that the other carriers have always done. We'll see if it works out for them, especially with the merger with Metro PCS.
As far as data speeds and call quality, just like any of the other carriers, it depends where you are. If you're in a metro area where Tmo is already well established then it's pretty good. More rural area's not so much.
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That's the other major difference in what sprint and tmo is doing. Sprint plans on upgrading the entire network urban and rural while tmo is only adding lte to the newer hspa+ towers 2g will stay 2g until further notice.
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Don't forget that Sprint's losing Nextel customers. That's the cost of shutting down that side. Not sure how many of them are government-related. It would be more useful to know that.
Don't forget that Sprint's losing Nextel customers. That's the cost of shutting down that side. Not sure how many of them are government-related. It would be more useful to know that.
Bye bye Nextel subs! I wants that 800MHz spectrum lol.
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