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Old July 18th, 2013, 12:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Sprint has an answer to the early upgrade campaign offered on other carriers

Ok so you already know about all 3 carriers doing early upgrade and it has it flaws but will sprint join too, because I hate the fact that I have to wait 2 years...

T-mobile JUMP! which is every 6 months
At&T is every year
Verizon as long as you pay 50% of your phone you can upgrade
Sprint- ????

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Ok so you already know about all 3 carriers doing early upgrade and it has it flaws but will sprint join too, because I hate the fact that I have to wait 2 years...

T-mobile JUMP! which is every 6 months
At&T is every year
Verizon as long as you pay 50% of your phone you can upgrade
Sprint- ????
If they brought back the yearly upgrade, that would be sweet.
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TMobiles is the only one I've seen that's really worth going for.

I'll admit I haven't looked much into ATT's, but Verizon's isnt nearly as good for consumers.

If they do implement one, it'll be interesting what direction the new owners take it in. Consumer friendly or profit driven?
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TMobiles is the only one I've seen that's really worth going for.

I'll admit I haven't looked much into ATT's, but Verizon's isnt nearly as good for consumers.

If they do implement one, it'll be interesting what direction the new owners take it in. Consumer friendly or profit driven?
You should check out this article. To me T-Mobile has the best plan for sure.

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TMobiles is the only one I've seen that's really worth going for.

I'll admit I haven't looked much into ATT's, but Verizon's isnt nearly as good for consumers.

If they do implement one, it'll be interesting what direction the new owners take it in. Consumer friendly or profit driven?
AT&T's is a ripoff too, just like Verizon's because they don't reduce your service cost. So in both cases, you're paying for your device twice between the installment payments, and the subsidy payment built into the service costs.

AT&T's installment payments only last 20 months rather than 24 months that T-Mobile have, but can range anywhere from 15-50 dollars depending on the device. And indeed it can only be used once every 12 months and requires trade in of the device.
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Well I hope sprint comes out with a better plan if it actually does. It is the last one so hopefully it tops all 3 of them... I think is stupid not owning a phone I dont like the leasing idea
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Well I hope sprint comes out with a better plan if it actually does. It is the last one so hopefully it tops all 3 of them... I think is stupid not owning a phone I dont like the leasing idea
I agree with you. Leasing is silly. I just buy my phones outright. No need to pay any extra fees or any of that nonsense.
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I commented on this in this post the other day.

And yes, I do feel that Sprint will eventually do something similar but actually conceived up by Softbank, not Sprint.

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Yeah they'll eventually do something. But I think they need to concentrate on getting Network Vision fully deployed ASAP.

I've read too many "Sprint Sucks" posts in various chat forums over the last year or so. Get the new network up and running around the country, then when the time right drop a plan that competes with other three carriers.
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Yeah they'll eventually do something. But I think they need to concentrate on getting Network Vision fully deployed ASAP.

I've read too many "Sprint Sucks" posts in various chat forums over the last year or so. Get the new network up and running around the country, then when the time right drop a plan that competes with other three carriers.


I agree 100% and will add...Sprint already has an early upgrade program and has for over a year now. Actually 2. Target customers can "Upgrade Now" by paying a fee and trading in their currently active device at a corporate store. Visit your local corporate store for details. There is also a second option handled through customer care (*2) that a customer can use. Call *2 for eligibility and details on that one.
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Good point, forgot about that. I used the customer care one last year.

Basically paid $100 and I was eligible for an upgrade again. The cost can depend on a few things, so ymmv
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Ok so you already know about all 3 carriers doing early upgrade and it has it flaws but will sprint join too, because I hate the fact that I have to wait 2 years...

T-mobile JUMP! which is every 6 months
At&T is every year
Verizon as long as you pay 50% of your phone you can upgrade
Sprint- ????
All they've done is re-painted insurance. I've been hounding sprint over the last few weeks to see if they have any options for early upgrades. I get a resounding NO. The leasing your phone deal, I don't see the issue there. Even with an insurance claim, you're either sending the defective back or replacing a stolen phone. Either way, you are without the original. I'd opt for 10-25 a month vs several hundred or free with a two year contract. T-Mobile is going to rise above the rest of these jokers in the future, mark my words.
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I believe Sprint will offer a similar early upgrade deal, if you can call it a deal.

The ATT, T-Mobile, and Verizon early upgrade plans are pretty expensive, and you have to return your old phone instead of being able to keep it and resell to recoup some cost
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I believe Sprint will offer a similar early upgrade deal, if you can call it a deal.

The ATT, T-Mobile, and Verizon early upgrade plans are pretty expensive, and you have to return your old phone instead of being able to keep it and resell to recoup some cost
Check Mr. Ed's post, three posts back from yours.

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Today sprint let it slip that on September 20th they will unveil their early upgrade program. It is called Sprint One Up. They will allow an early upgrade once a year. Is it enough when combined with their shoddy service and lacking LTE to entice users to stay with them vs jumping on board with T-Mobile?
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I hope they don't (or at least I hope they give the option of the current way)

Sprints had an early upgrade problem for years already, and its the best one out of the big 4.

You simply buy out of the remainder of your contract (1 full year was only about $100) and then you are good to go on an upgrade.

No other fees, no monthly payments, and you don't have to give them your old phone.

The JUMP programs are generally bad for consumers. You're usually better off selling your old phone on Craigslist and buying a new one at full retail
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Here it is.

Sprint preps 'One Up,' its own early upgrade program | Mobile - CNET News
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I will comment more if and when the program officially launches...
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I hope they don't (or at least I hope they give the option of the current way)

Sprints had an early upgrade problem for years already, and its the best one out of the big 4.

You simply buy out of the remainder of your contract (1 full year was only about $100) and then you are good to go on an upgrade.

No other fees, no monthly payments, and you don't have to give them your old phone.

The JUMP programs are generally bad for consumers. You're usually better off selling your old phone on Craigslist and buying a new one at full retail
Personally, I think all of these early upgrade programs are terrible. As you stated, you would make more $ selling the device through a 3rd party instead of giving it back to the provider. The only added benefit I see of JUMP! over any other is that the $10/mo fee comes with insurance included.
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For those members that are in Florida or Washington DC, Kristin Wallace, Sprint PR person stated (earlier today on twitter) that there are licensing delays in those areas, so the Sprint One Up program is not there yet.

She didn't go into if other areas are and only mentioned those two.
Once the licensing delay is dealt with, the program will be offered in those areas.

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I spoke to Sprint reps, they said you can finance up to 3 phones on the one up program. You will still get your company discount on the data part of the plan. The only thing they are not saying on your first bill you will have to pay the upgrade fee of $36 per phone. Ex. 1. unlimited talk and text $50 - $15 for doing the one up program = $35 + 2. $30 for unlimited data - 22% company discount = 58.40 for 1 line of service plus taxes and fees + the finance of the phone over 24 months ($700/24) 29.17 total per month will be around $100 a month.

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1. $50 - $15 = $35
2. $30 - $6.6 = $23.40
3. $700/24 = $29.17
4. taxes & fees = $12.43 estimate
5. Total per month = $100.00
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I spoke to Sprint reps, they said you can finance up to 3 phones on the one up program. You will still get your company discount on the data part of the plan. The only thing they are not saying on your first bill you will have to pay the upgrade fee of $36 per phone. Ex. 1. unlimited talk and text $50 - $15 for doing the one up program = $35 + 2. $30 for unlimited data - 22% company discount = 58.40 for 1 line of service plus taxes and fees + the finance of the phone over 24 months ($700/24) 29.17 total per month will be around $100 a month.

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2. $30 - $6.6 = $23.40
3. $700/24 = $29.17
4. taxes & fees = $12.43 estimate
5. Total per month = $100.00
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You still pay an activation fee on each line activated

The lines have to be on the new plans (which you should do anyway)

Each one up phone gets the $15 monthly discount off the data charge

Company discount still comes off each data charge prior to the $15 coming off

Yearly upgrades.

That pretty much sums it up.

It is a pretty sweet program. If you completely take the plan math out and just look at the monthly instalment minus $15 then multiply that by 12 you are just coming out getting a new phone (depending on model) for $4-10/ month and can get a new one the following year. You can get an ipad mini for as little as $24 per month including plan because you can get those too btw
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Personally, I think all of these early upgrade programs are terrible. As you stated, you would make more $ selling the device through a 3rd party instead of giving it back to the provider. The only added benefit I see of JUMP! over any other is that the $10/mo fee comes with insurance included.
This actually isn't holding true anymore and is only going to get worse. I have sold three phones in the past month and was able to only get $25-50 more than subsidized price (2 HTC ones and one Note 2)
With manufacturers turning out new devices as often as they are the third party market is flooding with devices driving that value down each day.

This was 3rd party. Retailers like Best Buy etc were of course awful too.

With Sprint's set up there is no monthly fee and you get the subsidy plan discount of $15.

Like I said above..manipulate that into the monthly instalment - $15 and you are paying less than $100 over one year for what would have been a $200 phone on a 2 yr contract. You have no contract and get a new device yearly.
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This actually isn't holding true anymore and is only going to get worse. I have sold three phones in the past month and was able to only get $25-50 more than subsidized price (2 HTC ones and one Note 2)
With manufacturers turning out new devices as often as they are the third party market is flooding with devices driving that value down each day.

This was 3rd party. Retailers like Best Buy etc were of course awful too.

With Sprint's set up there is no monthly fee and you get the subsidy plan discount of $15.

Like I said above..manipulate that into the monthly instalment - $15 and you are paying less than $100 over one year for what would have been a $200 phone on a 2 yr contract. You have no contract and get a new device yearly.
That discount is only valid as long as you are paying that EIP though. Not every customer is going to upgrade their phone every two years (or however long it takes the customer to pay the device back).
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That discount is only valid as long as you are paying that EIP though. Not every customer is going to upgrade their phone every two years (or however long it takes the customer to pay the device back).
No, the plan isn't for EVERYONE...but with the way technology is progressing and the way consumers like "us" want the newest thing the point of the plan IS to upgrade yearly.

Again I ask..even if in the past one hasn't upgraded even every two years, why wouldn't one upgrade yearly now?

Look at it again this way..pay $199 today and have one device your are stuck with for 2 years or $190ish and have one this year and a new one next

As a retailer I see a few things pretty consistently..I shake hands with roughly 1500 consumers per month.

1. People want a new phone...seriously, you should see some of the things people attempt to get a new phone. Influxes of this occur every time a new phone releases.

2. New phones are not designed the way they were 4 years ago. Mainly I am referring to software. We demand updates on hardware that wasn't originally designed to handle it.

There are customer's that would not benefit from this plan..smartphone users are not one of them. It's natural to try and find a catch, or a flaw in something new like this but Sprint really put something together great here.

I looked at the ATT Next program this morning, most of you know my wife still has her ATT account. That program makes no sense..even at one year one pays much more than the cost of the phone on contract..just like on TMobile and ATT...


In the end no one will force you to do it (right now) but things are changing. Tmobile set out to destroy the typical contract system...and they must have been on to something because all of the major carriers have now followed suit.
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Tmobile set out to destroy the typical contract system...and they must have been on to something because all of the major carriers have now followed suit.
When someone breaks rank the others have to try to keep up, or at least give the appearance so as to not 'fall behind'.
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As I understand it, you have to be on one of the new plans to qualify for One Up?
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For reasons I can not explain it is a good idea to get on those plans either way. (Unlimited guaranty)
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I don't get it [disclaimer: I'm an idiot]
Are they going to change my family plan? Do I need to sign up for a new plan? I have to qualify? when I text "upgrade," it says I qualify now for "one up." Is that it, or is it a credit check or something? (I'm buying a car soon; don't need unnecessary stuff on my credit).
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They will not change anything on the acct without some one on the acct saying OK. The unlimited my way plans are not for everybody. Depending on what type of plans your on and phones, it can be more expensive. If its saying your elig, your most likely elig to upgrade or its telling you that plan is a good fit for you. I would call customer service and have them do a plan analysis to see what is the best fit for you and all your lines!
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They will not change anything on the acct without some one on the acct saying OK. The unlimited my way plans are not for everybody. Depending on what type of plans your on and phones, it can be more expensive. If its saying your elig, your most likely elig to upgrade or its telling you that plan is a good fit for you. I would call customer service and have them do a plan analysis to see what is the best fit for you and all your lines!
You cannot do the one up on a line that is on a family plan. It is only currently available to customers that are on or switch to the new plans.

About switching plans.... I keep mentioning..If you are on a family plan with 4 lines or more you may be saving money...If you have non smartphones on your plan you may be saving money...However, YOU HAVE NO GUARANTY OF UNLIMITED DATA.

The plan debate is not about Old family plans vs New Unlimited Guaranty plans pricing...it's about Guaranteed unlimited plans vs The competitors pricing and in some cases shared data and whether or not one wants to keep unlimited data guaranteed.

Sprint has not made any statements that they are going to change plans, or take that away but it is a simple truth that you are not guaranteed unlimited...and there are details in the terms of service that everyone should read...most have not read them.


There is no additional credit hit..if you have been a customer for more than 12 months and have been paying your bills on time you are most likely eligible. Only customer care and corporate stores can tell you if you are or are not.

Also, the eligibility mark has no correlation to the new plans..some people can do one up, some can't due to payment history etc.


If you want to see how the new plans stack up simply go to
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oh and remember..corporate discounts are applied to the data portion of the plan pricing now..so each $30 unlimited data add on is discounted.

If you have 2 phones...it's the same exact price
If you have phones on unlimited everything it's the same exact price + you get the 5gb hotspot.
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You cannot do the one up on a line that is on a family plan. It is only currently available to customers that are on or switch to the new plans.
Do you mind clarifying this? I'm on a family plan and have two lines eligible for the one up program.
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Do you mind clarifying this? I'm on a family plan and have two lines eligible for the one up program.
How many lines total are on the family plan
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How many lines total are on the family plan
4 total. One is eligible for a normal upgrade and two others state I can sign on to this new upgrade program.
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4 total. One is eligible for a normal upgrade and two others state I can sign on to this new upgrade program.
Any lines you "One up" have to be on the new plans
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Any lines you "One up" have to be on the new plans
Thanks for clarifying, but who the heck would want to do that? Unless I'm missing something.
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Is there really any advantage to Sprint's or any carrier's new plans except for someone that has to have a new phone every year, but can't afford to buy one outright? It looks like you end up paying the full price anyway. It's just spread out over time like buying a car.

It seems to me that if you can afford it, you could start with your first phone at the subsidy price with a new contract. Then buy a new one at full price after a year or so, and sell your subsidized one at roughly half what you paid for it. You'd come out $300 or so ahead of what any of the carriers are offering.
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Thanks for clarifying, but who the heck would want to do that? Unless I'm missing something.
Change plans? People who want to keep unlimited data guaranteed for life. Do it...I wish they would give us more info on what is coming later.






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Is there really any advantage to Sprint's or any carrier's new plans except for someone that has to have a new phone every year, but can't afford to buy one outright? It looks like you end up paying the full price anyway. It's just spread out over time like buying a car.

It seems to me that if you can afford it, you could start with your first phone at the subsidy price with a new contract. Then buy a new one at full price after a year or so, and sell your subsidized one at roughly half what you paid for it. You'd come out $300 or so ahead of what any of the carriers are offering.

I guess go back and read my other posts.


$7 per month for a yr totaled is less than the 2yr price for a phone...no contract..upgrade yearly. I think the problem is a bunch of people are doing the math on other carrier's program not Sprint's. Sprint's is the only one to offer the monthly subsidy discount.


Two ...it is getting harder and harder to get anything for phones even 6 months in, especially now that these new programs are out.

Basically your theory makes sense but your math is wrong IMO haha.
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Thanks for clarifying, but who the heck would want to do that? Unless I'm missing something.
I went to a Corporate store earlier this week. My wife has two lines with Sprint. The store employee said that my corporate discount would only apply to data with the new plans. He recommended staying on our current plan until Sprint would force us off of it.

Sprint's Network in Wisconsin is not strong enough to justify the new plans prices.
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I went to a Corporate store earlier this week. My wife has two lines with Sprint. The store employee said that my corporate discount would only apply to data with the new plans. He recommended staying on our current plan until Sprint would force us off of it.

Sprint's Network in Wisconsin is not strong enough to justify the new plans prices.
The plan price is exactly the same for 2 phones. $15 cheaper actually for each phone on the one up program.

In your case the discount would be (no idea but I will use 10%) less because it is off $60 instead of $110...a difference of $5 per month to have a guaranty that you keep unlimited.

I just don't see what the fuss is about. Most likely because on ATT we fight to keep our grandfathered unlimited and I would gladly pay more to not have to go through that every time I change phones.

My biggest concern is that people stay on the old plans until forced off...what if there is no unlimited option at that time? That would suck.
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My corporate discount is 25% and my wife has unlimited international texting on her line ($10).

How much are the monthly payments for an iPhone5S, for example, with One Up?
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My corporate discount is 25% and my wife has unlimited international texting on her line ($10).

How much are the monthly payments for an iPhone5S, for example, with One Up?
What size 5s. International texting has not changed that I am aware of so that should stat the same
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What size 5s. International texting has not changed that I am aware of so that should stat the same
She always gets the one with the smallest amount of memory: 16GB.
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Mr. Ed, do you really think Sprint is going to stop unlimited data soon? I have been in two stores and talked to customer service, all have told me that it would be better for me to stay on the plan that I have now. I'm on a unlimited family plan. Just two lines with 20% discount. I can't see the benefit of changing plans. If you know something that we don't, please speak up.
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Mr. Ed, do you really think Sprint is going to stop unlimited data soon? I have been in two stores and talked to customer service, all have told me that it would be better for me to stay on the plan that I have now. I'm on a unlimited family plan. Just two lines with 20% discount. I can't see the benefit of changing plans. If you know something that we don't, please speak up.
Even if I did know something I couldn't "speak up" at risk of losing my job...that being said I know nothing other than what I put together on my own

Industry standards of elimination of unlimited data + new plans + fine print in the terms of service = conspiracy theory

Stint HAS made plan changes in the past (gold and silver premier, yearly upgrades, unlimited data card plans etc)

In the end you guys will do what you want. I gain absolutely nothing by talking about the what if scenario and nothing off of your decision on which plans to choose. There has been no announcements by Sprint that they will take your plan away or that you can't add to it.


The benefit and reason we got off topic is that the one up program is only available on the new plans
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I'm ready to do this today. Isn't the new Note out now? I can just walk in to a store (rather do it online), change my family plan to My Way whatever, get the note on the one up, bingo bango...new phone? right?
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I'm ready to do this today. Isn't the new Note out now? I can just walk in to a store (rather do it online), change my family plan to My Way whatever, get the note on the one up, bingo bango...new phone? right?
As long as you are eligible for one up and the store has plenty of inventory.
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